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Aosp roms discussion thread. [Minor FAQ inside]

This thread is for discussing aosp roms, like Slim, Carbon, etc. except for CM though since it has its own thread. This is meant to keep the unhelping chit-chatter out of the development threads where bug reports best reside. When posting here, clarify what aosp rom you're on. Do not post bug reports here, post them in their respective development threads!
One more thing! While this thread progresses, use search and/or read the faq to see if your question has already been posted before, to avoid repetitiveness and us older lads becoming grumpy.
F.A.Q: (frequently asked questions)
I would like to dualboot, what should I do?
Flash siyah kernel
Help! I flashed siyah and now my rom doesn't boot!
It's because whatever rom you use has a newer mali driver which most kernels aren't updated for. Especially siyah which hasn't seen some dev love in ages.
What rom should I flash?
We don't know, you have to try them out yourself!
What's gapps, and is this inside xx rom?
Gapps is short for google apps, which is the Play store and some other apps you sorely need. Go too http://goo.im/gapps and download the gapps package for whatever version you have. Newer aosp roms are most certainly 4.2.2. Some roms, like Slim, have their own separate gapps packages specially made for those roms. In those cases, the standard gapps from goo.im will not work!
Help! I flashed xx rom but now it doesn't boot!
Try making a factory reset in the recovery and reflash whatever rom you were on. Also, in most cases, CWM works better for rom installations. Twrp craps out for unknown reasons.
Help! I wiped data and reflashed the rom but it still doesn't boot!
That sounds like a rom issue. Try flashing an earlier version of the rom.
Help! Something screwed up and now my phone doesn't boot anymore!
Well, reboot into recovery and see if a reflash helps. It is always recommended to regularly keep your system backed up in case something nasty happens. Perform a nandroid backup every once in a while.
What is a nandroid backup?
It's like a screenshot of your current state which you can return to if something bad happens. A nandroid backup backs up the system, boot (kernel) and data and, if specified/selectable, it also backs up cache and recovery. Maybe even efs (in twrp). However, it doesn't back up the modem!
I flashed xx kernel and I now get a black screen upon reboot!
That is because the rom you flashed has the new mali driver from the 4.2.1 leak and the kernel you flashed isn't updated with this driver. Stay on the provided kernel for now.
Thanks to:
I forgot to give thanks where due, and I'm so sorry for that. If I got an advice from you, hit me up and your name goes on this list.
C_tho; for mentioning the mali driver stuff.
Noble Sir Slaphead20; for suggesting I'd maintain an FAQ and suggesting I'd make an entry covering gapps.

great..let me fire up first noob ?...other than siyah any other kernel supports dual boot of cm & sammy rom/ cm or aokp...
edit i know its kernel ? but still related to cm or aokp...

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kevinarjun said:
great..let me fire up first noob ?...other than siyah any other kernel supports dual boot of cm & sammy rom/ cm or aokp...
edit i know its kernel ? but still related to cm or aokp...
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Nope, only siyah
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@Theshawty....maybe as the thread develops you can add a FAQ?

kevinarjun said:
great..let me fire up first noob ?...other than siyah any other kernel supports dual boot of cm & sammy rom/ cm or aokp...
edit i know its kernel ? but still related to cm or aokp...
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Only Siyah, and Siyah only supports the older aosp roms.
Speaking of aosp, I just had an urge to flash Carbon. Think I'll do it, because I'm a bit bored of running touchwiz and I've run CM for so long I need change. I didn't like RootBox that much (too many settings, lol. I like a "leaner" setup) and there's no official aokp for our device. I also didn't like Slim, so I'll give Carbon another go.
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Nope, only siyah
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@Theshawty....maybe as the thread develops you can add a FAQ?
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Yeah, I had in mind to add a smaller faq.

would suggest you also try JellyBam...

kevinarjun said:
would suggest you also try JellyBam...
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not gonna happen
jellybam isnt a welcome rom here

kevinarjun said:
would suggest you also try JellyBam...
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DSA said:
not gonna happen
jellybam isnt a welcome rom here
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What DSA said. We do not welcome JellyBam here anymore because the developer broke a lot of rules of XDA. Plagiarism and violating the gpl, amongst others.
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I updated the op with a small faq. More to come in the following days.

In the Faqs it might be worth mentioning in the gapps bit that some Roms ie slim, have their own gapps, and others won't work

Just flashed Carbon 1.5, not regretting it thus far! This ROM gives the word buttery smooth a whole new meaning!
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2

Not sure this goes here, but ill give it a go anyways.
In the Slimbean thread there was a lot of talk about mali drivers. Now could someone please give me some info on the matter cause seems like I missed something.
Basicly what im wondering is whats up with the mali drivers and why do I want them?
Sorry if this is off-topic or has been answered somewhere else.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk HD

looking to switch to a AOSP ROM, what do you think about Super Nexus? Seems like the definition of AOSP

Glebun said:
looking to switch to a AOSP ROM, what do you think about Super Nexus? Seems like the definition of AOSP
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Slim is definitely worth a go as well

slaphead20 said:
Slim is definitely worth a go as well
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Agreed, running it now with no problems.
Carbon is nice as well..
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Jns said:
Not sure this goes here, but ill give it a go anyways.
In the Slimbean thread there was a lot of talk about mali drivers. Now could someone please give me some info on the matter cause seems like I missed something.
Basicly what im wondering is whats up with the mali drivers and why do I want them?
Sorry if this is off-topic or has been answered somewhere else.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk HD
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They fix the graphics glitches and completely without memory leaks.
Glebun said:
looking to switch to a AOSP ROM, what do you think about Super Nexus? Seems like the definition of AOSP
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I think you should give Carbon a try, it's THE definition of buttery smooth and come with some neat customization.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2

Glebun said:
looking to switch to a AOSP ROM, what do you think about Super Nexus? Seems like the definition of AOSP
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The only problem with SuperNexus is it is updated very slowly. Also Faryaab has exams to do now, so it will not get updated at least until he is done with them.
If you want a super light rom I would reccomend SlimBean it's fast, and light, battery is acceptable, and it's easy to change settings like screen density and navbar settings without having to edit build.prop and decompile framework-res.apk, which you will have to do on SuperNexus.

what about the smoothness of it?

Another one there to vouch for Carbon, running it on both phone and tablet
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

I love AOSP Roms and thank you for starting this thread. Unfortunately I am afraid that I can't use such Roms as a daily driver because of the camera problems. Bluetooth also seems to be a problem for some users.

Guys I am facing Memory leak problem with the Slim bean 4.2.2.....is it normal? cant seems to find any solution....

you'd be better off asking in the slim thread

[Q] Stable ROM for mako

Hello everyone,
I'm getting an N4 next week and I was wandering how stable AOKP's milestone 1 or CM RC2 are given that nither have a proper stable out yet.
Let me give some context. I use to be big on flashing, the phone I have now has run every any anying I have been able to find but to be honest I'm sort fo bored of it. At this point I'm just looking for somethig I can flash and wait for the OTA update for the next point or big number realse and Yes I know that both roms mention above are not "stable" but they will be soon I hope. I can put up with annoynces for some time while the stable comes out so I can move up to it. Also I'm open for sugestion if there anything more solid then AKOP or CM(if that is even plosible) by all means shear

They're both pretty stable. All features are fully working. Both roms have been on the Nexus 4 scene since day one so the developers have worked hard to eliminate any bugs. Just flash one and try it out yourself.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

CyanogenMod RC2, being a release candidate, is very stable and bug free (from my experience).
Sent from my CM10.1 Nexus 4

that is awsome news that there really stable. I'm confuse, why then are they not mark as stable? Can they be using debian definiton of stable?

gozes said:
that is awsome news that there really stable. I'm confuse, why then are they not mark as stable? Can they be using debian definiton of stable?
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Probably the developer doesn't think it's ready. Either way, it seems stable enough for daily use.
It sounds like I'm contradicting myself. LOL

Mmuzzy ROM. 100% stable with just a few very necessary customizations.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

sound good. I will asum that as soon as they think is go for stable then there will be an OTAU for it

gozes said:
sound good. I will asum that as soon as they think is go for stable then there will be an OTAU for it
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Yeah. They probably won't label "Stable" but a "Milestone" instead.

Every rom i have tried for my n4 have been stable
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

now a stupid question, I haven't use AOKP in a while so I was wandering do I still need to get the gapps in another zip and flash them or do the now ship with the rom? if they don't where do I get them because I dont't see them on there site

gozes said:
now a stupid question, I haven't use AOKP in a while so I was wandering do I still need to get the gapps in another zip and flash them or do the now ship with the rom? if they don't where do I get them because I dont't see them on there site
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Here is the gapps file.
http://d-h.st/VpV
Before you flash anything. PLEASE MAKE A BACKUP NANDROID FILE IN RECOVERY MODE JUST IN CASE THE PHONE DOESN'T BOOT.
I assume you know how to do a backup. LOL

scream4cheese said:
Here is the gapps file.
http://d-h.st/VpV
Before you flash anything. PLEASE MAKE A BACKUP NANDROID FILE IN RECOVERY MODE JUST IN CASE THE PHONE DOESN'T BOOT.
I assume you know how to do a backup. LOL
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yes I do in fact I do most of my rom setups with adb

gozes said:
yes I do in fact I do most of my rom setups with adb
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Aw sweet. :good::fingers-crossed:

Primerunner theme chooser edition is great and so are the rassaber builds, sentinel is a must if u prefer a straight cm experience but want gaming optimization
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carbon CM aospa

I've used cm10.1 and switched to Xylon when I had the desire for more customization. Ever since JellyBeer started however it's been my main ROM and I absolutely love the functionality and stability it has to offer. I am intrigued by PA's Halo though.

Slim ROM... Prerelease Q&A... Discussion..

Official thread up...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57228117
Sent from my Slim Nexus 6

Sent from my Slim Nexus 6

How are the pre-release builds so far? I've seen a few links pop up, and I'm itching to flash.

I just flashed it pretty snappy like always but no all clear recents
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Hate to be that guy but, could someone post the link to the post with the test rom?

attrapp said:
Hate to be that guy but, could someone post the link to the post with the test rom?
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OP Updated...:good:

b.huss2 said:
How are the pre-release builds so far? I've seen a few links pop up, and I'm itching to flash.
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Not bad...I've only flashed Slim thus far, stable (for me) running Lean Kernel, It's still early in the game, so from what I"ve seen/read, pretty much a stock 5.0 feel with minor tweaks would be the best way to describe them... :good:

Can't wait for Slim on the N6! Hurry please!
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app

It has center clock and color change for clock, double tap the notification bar to sleep, is very great on battery, smooth and snappy. It's great to have slim back on my device. Plenty more to come....
Posted from a Nexus 6 running Slim Rom

I might flash tonight my phone is encrypted so how would I go about flashing roms

@Steve Lazarus pm sent
Posted from a Nexus 6 running Slim Rom
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thorracing1 said:
I might flash tonight my phone is encrypted so how would I go about flashing roms
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This rom is decrypted so seeing as you have to do a factory reset to flash it, you might as well go decrypt your phone. I used wugfresh method, easy peasy and flawless.
Posted from a Nexus 6 running Slim Rom

thorracing1 said:
I might flash tonight my phone is encrypted so how would I go about flashing roms
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If this rom has a "no force encrypt" kernel, then you will just need to format data after you install. Format data will delete everything so back up to your pc anything you think you might need.

So if I decrypt the phone I can flash ROMs without deleting my data

Installed google camera from the play store and its missing HDR...anyone else experience this?

Odin2347 said:
Installed google camera from the play store and its missing HDR...anyone else experience this?
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Seems to be a problem on all AOSP based ROMs so far, from what I've read.

clothednblack said:
@Steve Lazarus pm sent
Posted from a Nexus 6 running Slim Rom
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@clothednblack Yep, got it.... :good:
Running Slim with Lean Kernel, pretty decent AnTuTu bench score... :good:

thorracing1 said:
I might flash tonight my phone is encrypted so how would I go about flashing roms
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thorracing1 said:
So if I decrypt the phone I can flash ROMs without deleting my data
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Gotta love all in one tool kits guy's, just sit there and let the program do the work.... Props to @WugFresh. This thing has it all...:good: Yes, even decryption...!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/toolkit-wugs-nexus-root-toolkit-v1-9-8-t2947452

thorracing1 said:
So if I decrypt the phone I can flash ROMs without deleting my data
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"Format data" either through recovery or fastboot is the only way to remove the forced encryption. If your data partition ever gets encrypted, like flashing a kernel that is "force encrypt", then you may need to do it again. Just make sure you know what you are flashing.

clothednblack said:
It has center clock and color change for clock, double tap the notification bar to sleep, is very great on battery, smooth and snappy. It's great to have slim back on my device. Plenty more to come....
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Are you getting better battery life than on stock? I'm generally curious as to whether these AOSP ROMs improve battery life.

It's a battery sipper ?
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Beed help. Want install lolipop on xt907

Hello eveyone. I want to install lolipop on my xt907
Now i have 4.4.2 kitkat unlocked bootloader
Please help me how to install lolipop. Repeat i have 4.4.2 kitkat with unlocked bootloader
I need full and good tutorial. Thanks a lot i am waiting your help

Have you installed a recovery?
If so what version?
Which version of lollipop are you looking at? (Cm12, Bliss pop,... Ect)
"Need More Input" Jonny 5 Short Circuit
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whitch version is good and stable for Droid M? i want good version i dont know lolipop versions
phone have 4.4.2 stock recovery.

I personally run BlissPop on my phone, but as of right now there is an issue with phone audio on build from 8-8 that the rom maker is currently working on a fix and for the most part is fairly quick to fix issues with it as soon as they are told about it.... CM is always a good way to go I have ran CM on my other phones... (my of droid is still running CM7)
So if you go with Bliss Pop download version 3.7 from 7-31 I'd your going to go with CM 12 I would look at the post in that section of the forum to find a good stable version
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meabrams said:
I personally run BlissPop on my phone, but as of right now there is an issue with phone audio on build from 8-8 that the rom maker is currently working on a fix and for the most part is fairly quick to fix issues with it as soon as they are told about it.... CM is always a good way to go I have ran CM on my other phones...
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I'd say stay away from Blisspop. It's packed with a ton of great features, but it's inherently unstable because they are *always* changing/switching things.
Like 3.6 had slim recents, but 3.7 killed it and added slim navbar+dim. Then 7/31 downgraded SELinux to Permissive mode and swapped AudioFX for Viper. v3.8 just broke my phone calls and completely disabled awesomeplayer. On G+ someone mentioned v3.9 already, too soon!! They need to focus on fixes not new changes.
I enjoyed the updates-ride but no more. I need stagefright patched AND stability. Goodbye blisspop.

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I'd say stay away from Blisspop. It's packed with a ton of great features, but it's inherently unstable because they are *always* changing/switching things.
Like 3.6 had slim recents, but 3.7 killed it and added slim navbar+dim. Then 7/31 downgraded SELinux to Permissive mode and swapped AudioFX for Viper. v3.8 just broke my phone calls and completely disabled awesomeplayer. On G+ someone mentioned v3.9 already, too soon!! They need to focus on fixes not new changes.
I enjoyed the updates-ride but no more. I need stagefright patched AND stability. Goodbye blisspop.
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So which rom are you going with?
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dream555 said:
whitch version is good and stable for Droid M? i want good version i dont know lolipop versions
phone have 4.4.2 stock recovery.
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For recovery go to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55282645
Section 3 and I used the the flashify route
If any one else knows of a good ROM to use feel free to post
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meabrams said:
So which rom are you going with? [...] If any one else knows of a good ROM to use feel free to post
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Liquidsmooth if you want features-galore: http://drdevs.com/devs/teamliquid/Nightly/
I tried the newest builds of CM and LS and phone calls work 100%, so that means Blisspop caused its own issues. Also music playback via Eleven/Apollo is MUCH faster: Blisspop always lagged before the music started and just had many sound-related glitches in general.
LS-KK was my daily for 12 months, so I'd say try out CM and Liquidsmooth to decide which you like best.

guys
please i need stable lolipop version on my droid razr m. phone have 4.4.2 with stock recoery
i need stable best version lolipop and i need full tutorial how to install it
ease tell me whitch version is best and stable and how to install it
repeat. phone have 4.4.2 with stock recovery and bootloader is unlocked.
thanks a lot

Cyanogenmod: why are there no stable release?

I'd like to use CM12.1 (marshmallow) but I realize there still are no stable release? Why? Is it not good enough yet?
I've had a pretty bad experience with CM on my old Galaxy S4 so I'm a little afraid to remove the stock recovery and ROM from my Moto X Play. I want to make sure that it's bug free (or as buggy as stock) and suitable for day use. In other words I want to flash it and know it's fully reliable. Given the fact that there are only nightly releases, are they reliable enough for this?
Thanks

Prosis said:
I'd like to use CM12.1 (marshmallow) but I realize there still are no stable release? Why? Is it not good enough yet?
I've had a pretty bad experience with CM on my old Galaxy S4 so I'm a little afraid to remove the stock recovery and ROM from my Moto X Play. I want to make sure that it's bug free (or as buggy as stock) and suitable for day use. In other words I want to flash it and know it's fully reliable. Given the fact that there are only nightly releases, are they reliable enough for this?
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I can't vouch for the latest releases, as my xplay has been broken for like 3 months now, but being a nightly doesn't inherently make it unstable. Stable builds are usually relabeled nightlies. I say give it a shot. You can always go back to stock if you don't like it, unless you're speaking about voiding warranty

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I can't vouch for the latest releases, as my xplay has been broken for like 3 months now, but being a nightly doesn't inherently make it unstable. Stable builds are usually relabeled nightlies. I say give it a shot. You can always go back to stock if you don't like it, unless you're speaking about voiding warranty
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Oh! I thought nightlies were unstable releases. So before yours broke, you had a good experience? No problem with camera or other stuff?
It's not really a question of warranty but rather just not having any issues when I need it to work. For instance, with my Galaxy S4, the camera kept crashing while I was out with my kids so I lost time trying to make it work when I wanted to take a picture. That's the kind of thing I wouldn't want happening just because I got another ROM.

Indeed I did (have a good experience). If you're every unsure of a nightly, head to the thread. You'll usually find one or several people commenting if it's no good.

dictionary said:
Indeed I did. If you're every unsure of a nightly, head to the thread. You'll usually find one or several people commenting if it's no good.
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Yeah I had a look (I just realized I was talking about CM13 not 12.1) but given there are now 205 pages I thought I'd ask about the nightly situation in a different thread.
I think I may try it and restore it from the ROM available in the forum.
Oh and I keep wondering, given Motorola never actually released the ROM, how can someone make it available?

I m using nightly for like 3 months ......and I can say nightly is far better than stock if you are looking for customization and speed. I recently tried to go back to stock 6.0.1 but that experience is so "LAGGY" that I again return back to CM.I can say that CM nightly build working best for me with my requirements(like gaming and also photography and editing and HEAVY Customization and many more ) . and about custom recovery,it's a must have tool I suggest as with that I can return back to my previous builds. SO i recommend to go for NEW CM build,but in the end it's upto you.
and if u r still fearing about NIGHTLIES then flash the custom recovery(twrp) and then make backup of whole stock system and then do whatever U want to.

Btw this is the wrong forum to discuss things
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anks095 said:
I m using nightly for like 3 months ......and I can say nightly is far better than stock if you are looking for customization and speed. I recently tried to go back to stock 6.0.1 but that experience is so "LAGGY" that I again return back to CM.I can say that CM nightly build working best for me with my requirements(like gaming and also photography and editing and HEAVY Customization and many more ) . and about custom recovery,it's a must have tool I suggest as with that I can return back to my previous builds. SO i recommend to go for NEW CM build,but in the end it's upto you.
and if u r still fearing about NIGHTLIES then flash the custom recovery(twrp) and then make backup of whole stock system and then do whatever U want to.
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Oh nice idea. I think That's what I'm gonna do, thanks!
Benjamin_L said:
Btw this is the wrong forum to discuss things
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Is it? I apologize then. Even if I want to talk about CM I should use the General Help forum?

Prosis said:
Oh nice idea. I think That's what I'm gonna do, thanks!
Is it? I apologize then. Even if I want to talk about CM I should use the General Help forum?
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Original development is for devs posting their work usually