Since root, apps are incompatible - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I had to RMA my first N10 for a bad power button. It was rooted but 100% stock otherwise. I did a titanium backup of my apps when I sent it back.
When I got the new nexus, I unlocked, rooted and flashed franko right away but left the stock ROM. I restored my apps and have been loving it ever since.
Now the problem. I use an app for work that has an important update to fix some bugs but now shows as not compatible with my device. I've tried clearing the market data and framework but it didn't help.
I would like to try flashing a stock kernel but can't seem to find a stock zip for CWM.
Any other ideas?
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svennn said:
I had to RMA my first N10 for a bad power button. It was rooted but 100% stock otherwise. I did a titanium backup of my apps when I sent it back.
When I got the new nexus, I unlocked, rooted and flashed franko right away but left the stock ROM. I restored my apps and have been loving it ever since.
Now the problem. I use an app for work that has an important update to fix some bugs but now shows as not compatible with my device. I've tried clearing the market data and framework but it didn't help.
I would like to try flashing a stock kernel but can't seem to find a stock zip for CWM.
Any other ideas?
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This is not a problem refered with the root or kernel, but with the comptibility of those apps with our device.

Even though I'm running the restored version in it now? The original app is fine, just the update is not compatible.
FWIW, I'm not arguing, I just want to understand before I contact the developer.
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lKBZl said:
This is not a problem refered with the root or kernel, but with the comptibility of those apps with our device.
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I just checked on a 2nd stock N10 and I have the same issue. I also checked on my non stock Nexus 4 and it does work. So I'll get after the Dev to get it fixed.
Thanks for the input.
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Can I use the cm10.1 message apk on a stock rooted Nexus 4?

I want to keep my Nexus stock but I really like the text message app from cm. Is there a way to use that one instead of the stock message app? I'm assuming I just have to remove the stock app and then replace it with the cm one right?
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Yup. Replace and set permissions. Reboot
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Replace it in root explorer.
Yes, just use any file manager with root access and replace it and then give correct permission (rwx-r--r-- I believe)
Also I highly advise you to make a copy of the stock app and place it somewhere in the phone, just in case.
ALSO if you're odexed, this might now work as it also needs odex file and if you are odexed and replaced the app, you might get into the bootloop I think. Never tried it on odexed ROMs, but I think that's what happens
kyokeun1234 said:
Yes, just use any file manager with root access and replace it and then give correct permission (rwx-r--r-- I believe)
Also I highly advise you to make a copy of the stock app and place it somewhere in the phone, just in case.
ALSO if you're odexed, this might now work as it also needs odex file and if you are odexed and replaced the app, you might get into the bootloop I think. Never tried it on odexed ROMs, but I think that's what happens
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I'm using stock. I'm not sure if stock is odexed. How do I get the app? Do I just unzip a cm update zip?
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armandosal said:
I'm using stock. I'm not sure if stock is odexed. How do I get the app? Do I just unzip a cm update zip?
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Did you do flash any ROM? If not, you have odexed ROM. Make sure to make a nandroid backup before doing this as I believe you might get into the bootloop.
You can easily get the app by doing that.
kyokeun1234 said:
Did you do flash any ROM? If not, you have odexed ROM. Make sure to make a nandroid backup before doing this as I believe you might get into the bootloop.
You can easily get the app by doing that.
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All ive done with the phone is unlock the bootloader and root it. So your saying that I should install a CWM and do a nandroid? Won't installing that wipe my phone?
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armandosal said:
All ive done with the phone is unlock the bootloader and root it. So your saying that I should install a CWM and do a nandroid? Won't installing that wipe my phone?
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Flashing custom recovery? Nope. Only unlocking not loader does
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armandosal said:
All ive done with the phone is unlock the bootloader and root it. So your saying that I should install a CWM and do a nandroid? Won't installing that wipe my phone?
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No. Before you screw with anything in system, make a backup. If you break something, a simple restore will fix it.
The cm message app is system/app/messaging.apk. Extract it from the cm zip and follow the directions above to install it.
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You won't go into a boot loop, only thing that will happen is either the Mms.apk won't show up in the launcher or it'll FC. Sometimes, using the newest one from nightlies will cause FC. One has been posted in the apps section that works and has what you're looking for. Its better to use any root explorer app and copy it to /system/apps and fix permissions. And like someone said, make a copy of your original Mms.apk and Mms.odex files to your phone..
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If you're just stock rooted, you'll have to go in and re-install the messaging app after every reboot because the stock uses the .odex files to create the mms app, but there is a stock, deodexed, rooted ROM here, and you can just load the CM10.1 MMS into it and it'll work fine. That's what I did
Or you could check out Glowfly on the play store.
It's a pop-up notification app with quick reply support.
Made the same recommendation in a similar thread in the Themes and Apps section. I'm not affiliated with the devs. Just wanted to show support for a good app.
anyone know if this app changes the orienation of your photos from landscape to portrait? This seemed to be a bug on all roms using this apk on my old Galaxy s2.
lookinoji said:
If you're just stock rooted, you'll have to go in and re-install the messaging app after every reboot because the stock uses the .odex files to create the mms app, but there is a stock, deodexed, rooted ROM here, and you can just load the CM10.1 MMS into it and it'll work fine. That's what I did
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Yea I just rebooted my phone after installing the mms app and now it's force closing.
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lookinoji said:
If you're just stock rooted, you'll have to go in and re-install the messaging app after every reboot because the stock uses the .odex files to create the mms app, but there is a stock, deodexed, rooted ROM here, and you can just load the CM10.1 MMS into it and it'll work fine. That's what I did
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Will I still get official ota updates like that?
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Not sure what's wrong...

So today I decided to fire up my old continuum and it wouldn't boot. Naturally I went into cwm and tried to restore my old backup. Looks like it didn't want to after it said it was complete I rebooted system and the phone sits on the Samsung splash screen and vibrates.
I pulled the battery and then went back into cwm and wiped data, cache, and dalvik cache. Tried to boot again and it did the same thing.
So I just want to get the phone back up and running. I don't plan on activating it. I just need it to boot to run some apps daily.
I was thinking of ways to do this and I think if I flash the stock 2.2 rom in recovery it might work. Or should I Odin back?
I don't really remember how to use Odin since it's been so long. Nor do I have any of the files on my pc.
Any suggestions on what I should do to get it back up?
Thanks.
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Honestly I would just go back in and use Odin. I have deleted most of my old files. but they should all still be on the forum. Some of the links may be broken. I can always check for you and repost files if links are broken and I have still have them. (I can't remember if I wiped that hard drive or not, the laptop was misbehaving and I think I did a clean install). I will try and check tonight. You might want to try reinstalling the base file in CWM depending on which version you are running, I have had some backups go corrupt if I changed the wrong thing...
Jaggar345 said:
So today I decided to fire up my old continuum and it wouldn't boot. Naturally I went into cwm and tried to restore my old backup. Looks like it didn't want to after it said it was complete I rebooted system and the phone sits on the Samsung splash screen and vibrates.
I pulled the battery and then went back into cwm and wiped data, cache, and dalvik cache. Tried to boot again and it did the same thing.
So I just want to get the phone back up and running. I don't plan on activating it. I just need it to boot to run some apps daily.
I was thinking of ways to do this and I think if I flash the stock 2.2 rom in recovery it might work. Or should I Odin back?
I don't really remember how to use Odin since it's been so long. Nor do I have any of the files on my pc.
Any suggestions on what I should do to get it back up?
Thanks.
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jaycush said:
Honestly I would just go back in and use Odin. I have deleted most of my old files. but they should all still be on the forum. Some of the links may be broken. I can always check for you and repost files if links are broken and I have still have them. (I can't remember if I wiped that hard drive or not, the laptop was misbehaving and I think I did a clean install). I will try and check tonight. You might want to try reinstalling the base file in CWM depending on which version you are running, I have had some backups go corrupt if I changed the wrong thing...
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When I get around to it I will probably just Odin back I guess. We will see. Maybe tonight I will try to flash the eg04 deodex rom since last I can recall I was on 2.3.3
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Most links are broken however I was able to pull an image from my brothers stock continuum he didn't use root it and get my phone to boot, so I'm good now. I'm on 2.1 but that's all I need to run my app so I'm good. Thanks for your insight.
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Jaggar345 said:
Most links are broken however I was able to pull an image from my brothers stock continuum he didn't use root it and get my phone to boot, so I'm good now. I'm on 2.1 but that's all I need to run my app so I'm good. Thanks for your insight.
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WOW...Surprised to see some activity on this forum!! It's been a long time! I still mess with the old Continuum once in a while just to try stuff out. I have the EG04 files still if you need them. Still have some of TB101's mods too.
Nah I'm just running 2.1 I found some files and got it back. I'm not using it as a phone just a money making machine. Thanks though. I moved on to the droid dna like 8 months ago.
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Yeah, I went with the S3. My son uses the continuum as a wifi only device. I still jump on it once in awhile just to play around.
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What rom are you running on your s3?
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Jaggar345 said:
What rom are you running on your s3?
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Just stock, rooted. I actually use some of the TW features like multi Window. 4.3 should be rolling out to us soon, so I'm check it out and then decide if I want to go with a custom rom.
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I run Viper dna on mine. Sense 5 with Android 4.2.2.
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Stopped working

Hey. I've recently started having a problem with some apps, mainly saw that on outlook and eBay, in which when i attempt to run the app while on wifi, it crashes and says app stopped working. At the same time when i open my data and run these apps everything is ok. I dirty flashed Rom, gapps and kernel and still haven't fixed it. I run rasbean jelly rom 4.2.2 with Matr1x kernel. Any ideas? Thanks
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mrzonk said:
Hey. I've recently started having a problem with some apps, mainly saw that on outlook and eBay, in which when i attempt to run the app while on wifi, it crashes and says app stopped working. At the same time when i open my data and run these apps everything is ok. I dirty flashed Rom, gapps and kernel and still haven't fixed it. I run rasbean jelly rom 4.2.2 with Matr1x kernel. Any ideas? Thanks
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Try clearing the data of both apps. If they still don't work, then try clean-flashing the ROM and kernel.
Is it okay if i use the clean flash solution to restore the rest of apps with titanium backup after ?
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Future Updates to a rooted phone.

Hello All,
Should I freeze my updater so I do not get any future updates without me wanting them? I heard if you have a rooted devices with a custom recovery sometimes an ota update can not only remove root but brick your phone. If this is so can anyone show me how to freeze the updater?
Thank you.
Kinda would like this information since I'm still using my stock ROM and don't wanna accidentally take any otas
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well its illegal to automatically update your phone without your consent so you shouldn't need to block anything. However ofcourse you could "accidently" update so its up to you.
djraimondi said:
Kinda would like this information since I'm still using my stock ROM and don't wanna accidentally take any otas
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If your on the stock ROM and rooted and have custom recovery installed you will absolutely brick your device. This happened to quite a few people here including myself and it took about a day for the devs to get our devices fixed when the first OTA rolled out. So yes freeze it. if your on a custom ROM then you need not worry about this.
Walter21026 said:
If your on the stock ROM and rooted and have custom recovery installed you will absolutely brick your device. This happened to quite a few people here including myself and it took about a day for the devs to get our devices fixed when the first OTA rolled out. So yes freeze it. if your on a custom ROM then you need not worry about this.
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What exactly do I freeze. I'm assuming I can use titanium backup to freeze it but I have no idea what to freeze.
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djraimondi said:
What exactly do I freeze. I'm assuming I can use titanium backup to freeze it but I have no idea what to freeze.
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Freeze "Software Update MUC"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2450772&highlight=ota&page=2
Walter21026 said:
Freeze "Software Update MUC"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2450772&highlight=ota&page=2
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Thank youuu. For the life of me I couldn't find that.
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Simple ROM and Device compatibility question

I have a Nexus 4 running on 4.4.2 update base ROM. I've unlocked and rooted my phone, with multiple root tests to be sure. I've also downloaded the Franco kernel. Though its not working, so I assume its cause its a nightly version. From the information I've found those don't always work.
Back to my question though. My devices is a Mako, which goes along with being a Nexus 4 right. So why is it when I downloaded the cyanogenmod mako latest ROM it didn't work? Came up with an error comparing device and product as being mako, and some status 7 thing. I did a restore and now I'm here.
I've tried to install it view clockwork recovery, and from the ROM manager app. Both came up with those errors. Am I doing something wrong?
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It looks like you don't have the latest version of cwm on you're phone. Try updating you're CWM to the newest version. Or install twrp recovery ( newest version and try again.
Be warned if you install twrp recovery then you're backup made in cwm recovery wont work should you wish to use it.
Below is a screen shot showing you're problem.
Phone : Nexus 4 /Rom : cataclysm / Kernel : Stock.
Thanks. I updated clockwork and it worked perfectly. Though its extremely annoying that I don't get my apps and data and all that I would normally get when doing a regular Google based ROM. Is there a way to get all that with custom ROMs? Do I just need to do a flash of Google play store or something?
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TIrving89 said:
Thanks. I updated clockwork and it worked perfectly. Though its extremely annoying that I don't get my apps and data and all that I would normally get when doing a regular Google based ROM. Is there a way to get all that with custom ROMs? Do I just need to do a flash of Google play store or something?
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If you flash Gapps immediately after flashing the ROM, it should give you the options to download your apps and system settings during initial setup, if that's what you're asking.
TIrving89 said:
Thanks. I updated clockwork and it worked perfectly. Though its extremely annoying that I don't get my apps and data and all that I would normally get when doing a regular Google based ROM. Is there a way to get all that with custom ROMs? Do I just need to do a flash of Google play store or something?
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You need to flash gapps package for google apps like playstore, gmail..etc. Link are often given together in the OP of the rom thread.
Excellent. Thank you all. I'll be sure to keep an eye out for those! You've all been a great help.
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One more question. Kernels. I know some are ment purely for custom ROMs. But is there a place I can get Kernels for a stock ROM? I haven't decided on a custom ROM yet, but I'd like to tweak this one as much as I can before.
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They support both, the exception being with CM kernels.
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It looks like you don't have the latest version of cwm on you're phone. Try updating you're CWM to the newest version. Or install twrp recovery ( newest version and try again.
Be warned if you install twrp recovery then you're backup made in cwm recovery wont work should you wish to use it.
Below is a screen shot showing you're problem.
Phone : Nexus 4 /Rom : cataclysm / Kernel : Stock.
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thanks!

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