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Info & Tips for New Wildfire Owners

HTC Wildfire New User Tips & Tricks
Hi,
Just thought I’d put this together for users of this great little phone. Hopefully it will be of use to someone.
First up, the Wildfire (also known as the Buzz) can run different firmware to that supplied by HTC.
There are several alternative firmware versions available, such as WildPuzzleROM. You can read more about these in the Wildfire Android Development sub-forum.
So why would you want to run different firmware?
One reason could be because you don’t like / have a use for the apps provided by your phone supplier (carrier) or HTC. As examples, many users may not have a need for social networking apps like FriendStream, Twitter, Facebook and so on. Other users may have no need for the Stock or News widgets. Other users are annoyed by all of the marketing-oriented crap from their phone company that fills up their app drawer with useless “apps” (these are often simply links to websites where you can buy ringtones, games, a.s.o.)
If you remove these apps from your installation (generally-speaking, you can’t remove them using the standard - or “stock” - firmware), it frees up a lot of internal memory for applications that you actually want to have on your phone. The other plus is that your phone will have more RAM to work with (because it‘s not running a bunch of default apps / services that start when you turn it on).
As with all computers, more free RAM means a faster, smoother experience and the ability to run more apps.
Another reason for using alternative firmware is to run a completely different interface. While you can install / run several “home” alternatives (basically, a different “desktop”) with the stock Wildfire firmware, the memory used by the default installed (HTC Sense) apps /services can affect the performance of your chosen alternate home.
Speaking of performance, many of the firmware alternatives allow you to overclock your Wildfire (make the processor run faster than the default speed). Some also enable a feature called JIT (just in time). Without getting into a bunch of technical jargon here, JIT can make applications run faster.
As an observation with MY Wildfire and overclocking - it becomes unstable if I use clock speeds over 691mHz - with a low limit of 128mHz. If I clock at 710, 728 etc. up to 768mHz I get lots of “fc” (force close) messages, weird hangs, or the phone simply reboots. Some folks are reporting stable usage at 768mHz, so it seems to be a luck of the draw thing, where some Wildfires will happily run at this speed. Having said that, a speed bump from the default 528mHz to 691mHz is a 31% increase in speed for free - so I’m not complaining.
Warning: As always with overclocking, you are using the CPU outside of spec which increases heat, battery use and so on. This is likely to reduce your phone’s lifespan and - in some cases - can destroy some phones. You’ve been warned of the risks, so it’s up to you to make the call on overclocking.
You can also UNDERclock your phone - using a utility such as SetCPU, which can be downloaded from the Market. This is the reverse of overclocking, where you run your CPU slower than default - which means a cooler phone and potentially much better battery life. This is unlikely to change the longevity of your phone, as the CPU is still running within spec.
Back to the benefits of running alternative firmware - and probably the biggest reason why you should consider it - is because it’s typically based on a more recent Android OS version than the one supplied by your phone company (or HTC themselves). New versions of Android often increase performance or add new features - and provide bug fixes.
In the Wildfire’s case, all of the current firmware alternatives are based on Android 2.2 (Froyo). The default firmware on Wildfire is Android 2.1 (Éclair).
Android 2.2 is faster than 2.1 and adds a feature which allows you to install your applications on the microSD card - rather than in the phone’s internal memory. This lets you install a lot more apps.
So, how do I install alternative firmware?
This involves a couple of steps.
First up is a process known as “rooting” your Wildfire. In plain language, you gain access to the base (or “root”) level of your phone’s operating software. If compared to a standard PC, this is the rough equivalent of the BIOS (Basic Input Output System). The easiest way to “root” your phone is with a utility called Unrevoked. See this thread for details on where to get it and how to use it:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764495
Warning: You should note that rooting a phone is not without risk. You can “brick’ your phone (functionally - turn it into something as useful for making phone calls as a brick). Having said that, many thousands of people have managed to do it by following the instructions / doing their homework BEFORE rooting. Do this, and you should be fine too.
Once you’ve rooted your phone, you need to find / download a firmware alternative. These are known / identified as a ROM. See / read / download from the threads in the Wildfire Android Development sub-forum.
Installation instructions are generally found in each ROM thread.
You can only install an alternative ROM on a rooted phone.
You can only install a ROM which is built for the Wildfire (or “Buzz”). Do not attempt to install a ROM designed for a “similar” phone, or you will end up with an expensive paperweight.
General Tips
Using a non-Sense UI “home” alternative allows you to change the look / general feel (and actual use) of your Wildfire. Among these alternative home apps are:
ADW.Launcher (my current home)
Launcher Pro (my fave, but just a little unstable at the moment….and will become my home when the handful of tiny problems are sorted)
Open Home
Panda Home
…and a lot of others.
These each offer their own unique set of features / way of user interaction and general layout. They are generally faster than Sense. Another plus is that they allow you to do things that you can’t do with HTC’s Sense. These include:
- the use of Live Wallpapers
- the ability to show more icons onscreen - both on the desktop or in the App Drawer.
- themes or skins that not only change the wallpaper, but also (some) app icons, taskbar appearance, and other stuff
There are a few caveats, however, which are due to the Wildfire’s screen resolution, processor, and lack of 3D acceleration. This means:
- many live wallpapers will not run
- changing the number of displayed app icons can look weird / overlap
- fonts can become hard to read
While we’re talking about hardware limitations, you should note that many apps (particularly games) will not run on the Wildfire. In fact, many may not even show up in the Market because they are designed for CPUs / 3D accelerators, or the higher screen resolutions found in “high-end” Android phones.
Many games designed for HVGA resolution (320 x 480) will run on Wildfire, but you might find that the right side of the image is off the edge of the screen.
The screen res also causes other weird quirks. An example is the Google Voice Search feature. When you first run this - a tutorial pops up, but you can’t exit this tutorial because you can’t see the onscreen buttons when in portrait mode. The solution is to rotate your Wildfire into landscape mode…and then you can access the buttons.
Extending Wildfire Battery Life
This collection of tips has been mercilessly plagiarised from various sources on the internet….so I don’t claim them as my own. I just compiled the ones that have worked for me.
Obviously, if there are certain features that you like / need to leave enabled, then leave ‘em turned on.
Settings > Accounts & sync
- Untick Auto Sync and Background data.
Some apps, like the Calendar, constantly sync….which chews through your battery. Some apps - like the Market & GMail - require sync to be active. My suggestion is to use these settings, and enable sync when you need to access the Market / use an app that requires sync to be enabled. Once you’re done, turn it off.
- In the settings of EACH app….NOT the phone Settings menu….you should be able to disable or change the timing of data retrieval or background syncing for apps like email or Twitter clients and RSS or Stock ticker apps.
Settings > Sound & display
- Screen Timeout Interval. Change to 15 or 30 seconds, rather than the default 1 minute.
- Screen brightness. You can manually set this, or use the automatic feature. I leave it on automatic because disabling it affects the way that the backlighting works for the buttons below the screen.
- Untick Phone Vibrate Notification. I can hear the ringtone, so don’t need the phone to vibrate to tell me I’ve got an incoming call.
- Untick Haptic Feedback. A personal choice. I leave it enabled, but it does save some juice if disabled.
Wireless & networks
- Untick Wi-Fi, Bluetooth & GPS. These suck down the power, so disable them unless you need them. As a tip, Android has a default widget called the Control Bar. Click-hold on a blank (4 columns wide by one row high) space on one of your home screens…and choose this widget. It provides a quick way to enable/disable Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS, Sync, & to switch between a few Brightness levels (if Auto-brightness isn’t active in Settings > Sound & display).
Settings > Applications > Running Services > Select and Stop any apps that you’re not using. This frees up memory and saves CPU cycles - and therefore reduces battery drain.

looking for more tips on apps n game compatible with wildfire

Thanks for the tips!
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if you want your phone to look sexy and not boring like htc sense then yes.

phoros said:
What about interfaces: is it REALLY worthy to change sense for launcher or sth else?
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A personal choice, obviously....but compared with Sense...
- I like the additional customisation options that ADW or Launcher Pro offer.
- I use a Live Wallpaper - Plasma Live Wallpaper (Casey Langen)
- I turn off screen "bouncing" and scrolling delays, opening animations and fades etc. These make switching or scrolling between homescreens WAY faster than Sense - which makes the phone more fun to use. Swipe scrolling between homescreens "feels" like switching with a hardware button on another phone....if you get my drift?
- I have direct access to all of my essential apps in the menu bar at the bottom of the screen - not just the phone & app drawer. This is not only convenient, but it makes the phone faster to use.
- I can group / hide / choose by groups in the App Drawer. This reduces clutter, by hiding apps that I don't need to "launch" or add to the desktop (such as SuperUser)...or makes finding apps that are used rarely faster.
Why not download Launcher Pro and ADW etc. from the Market....and try them? Once installed, press the Home button, and choose the Launcher or Sense. Spend the time to set them up fully to YOUR liking....then actually use your phone like this for a day or two.
It took me a few weeks to try various launchers...but now - with an overclocked / completely Sense-less phone - I'd never go back. Sense is OK, but it's slow and a bit restrictive.
For me - it was about a setup that makes "sense" to me - and speed. The eye candy of the Live Wallpaper has a tiny performance penalty...which is my little indulgence after making everything else "lean".

Thanks for this guide, it is very helpful.

very informative, tried almost all of your tips. Thanks a lot!
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[Q] Newie with a couple of questions?

Got my Desire Z yesterday
Got a couple of questions if someone could answer them for me please?
1) If Wi-Fi is turned on and I browse the web etc, does the phone use the wi-fi (my home wi-fi this is) over the phone network, i.e. so I don't get charged as I'm currently waiting for my contract plan to renew and my free data does not kick in until next month.
2) Is there a way of closing off apps that I have previously opened, or do I need another app to do this as I assume leaving apps running in the background will be a bigger drain on the battery?
3) I have setup a HTC Sense account, does the phone remain connected to this the whole time? (just want to make sure nothing racks up my data usage as I'm not on free data as yet).
Thanks for any info.
Oh, and PS - can anyone recommend some good apps?

If your Wi-fi is on and you are connected to a wireless network, the traffic will go over this network. You can also edit your settings so that the phone doesn't use phone network to update facebook, weather, etc. This goes for all apps and functions, including HTC Sense, email sync, etc.
Task killers are not supposed to be used with Android. You can read more about that here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849974
What a good app for you is, depends on what you're looking for. But as for games, I do recommend Angry Birds and Doodle Jump (Santa doodle is just too cute these days )

A couple of must-have apps for me:
ChompSMS - replaces built-in text messaging app
Winamp - media player
Astro File Manager - does so much more than file management
ScoreMobile - real-time updates on sports scores
BuzzBox - RSS reader
Kayak - itinerary manager and travel application
Barcode Scanner
Tim Hortons Finder - for Canadians jonesing for their cup of Timmy's
JuiceDefender -
setCPU - set up CPU profiles for
Battery Graph - tracks drain on battery
TED Mobile
Some games and lighter fare:
Air Control Lite - fun game
Paper Toss
Angry Birds
Hungry Shark
Kobo reader
Aldiko reader
Hope this helps kick you off in the right direction.

stiscooby said:
2) Is there a way of closing off apps that I have previously opened, or do I need another app to do this as I assume leaving apps running in the background will be a bigger drain on the battery?
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You don't need to worry, Android handles this automatically. The app won't be doing anything to drain the battery unless there's something seriously wrong with the app.
3) I have setup a HTC Sense account, does the phone remain connected to this the whole time? (just want to make sure nothing racks up my data usage as I'm not on free data as yet).
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You can control how often the phone syncs with your HTC Sense account just like you control the other things is syncs with such as Gmail, Facebook, etc, etc. So you can set those to sync manually so you have more control, and then only go and sync particular things when you need them.
HTCSense.com doesn't work too well for a lot of people at the moment (though you might be lucky), see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849410

Thanks for the replies.
So is there one overall setting to turn the data off or is there a setting within each app, where I can turn it off (just for the time being).
Oh, and one other question is there a way of checking how much battery is remaining apart from the little symbol at the top of the screen? Only got it yesterday and it's showing about a 3rd remaining. Seems to have gone down quickly, although I have probably been fiddling a bit more than what I will do once I "get use to it".
Thanks

stiscooby said:
So is there one overall setting to turn the data off or is there a setting within each app, where I can turn it off (just for the time being).
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Go into Menu->Settings->Accounts & Sync and you'll see all the settings in there. One overall setting to sync automatically or not, and then individual sections for each account where you can sync them manually.
Oh, and one other question is there a way of checking how much battery is remaining apart from the little symbol at the top of the screen? Only got it yesterday and it's showing about a 3rd remaining. Seems to have gone down quickly, although I have probably been fiddling a bit more than what I will do once I "get use to it".
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You can also go into Menu->Settings->About Phone->Battery, and if you choose the "Battery Use" section you can see what's been using the battery.
There are loads of extra battery widgets you can install on the Android market, to give you a percentage display. I'm using this one - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724778

stiscooby said:
Thanks for the replies.
So is there one overall setting to turn the data off or is there a setting within each app, where I can turn it off (just for the time being).
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I've installed the "Mobile Network" widget so I can turn data off and on at will.
Widgets > Settings... > Mobile Network

Top 10 most wanted Android new features & improvements

1. Allow copy-pasting and easier editting of phone numbers in the dialer and more generally dialer improvements (e.g. have log+TF9+dial+contacts all on the same tab, similar to Sense dialer), ability to call from anywhere within Android through longpress or double tap (e.g. of home button) when no hard key is available (e.g. on the SGSII)
2. Provide a stock application freezer within the task manager (similar to GoLauncher App Drawer but with freezing instead of killing apps)
3. Offer a data toggle: Off/Auto/2g only, either as a widget or in the notification bar.
4. Better way of looking for Apps in the market, similar to Appbrain but with more focus on app rating.
5. GPS location lock toogle: GPS only, Wireless only, GPS+Wireless: this is used too often depending on WiFi availability, and is too deep within the menus.
6. Create a separe setting menu entry for mobile data and USB connectivity. Things such as roaming and USB storage are used too often to be burried that deep down the Wireless & Network menu
7. Allow Lock Screen Wallpaper change from the home screen menu, not only regular wallpaper
8. Include functionality thermometer for external temperature (corrected for phone surface temperature heat). How often do I want to know room temperature in those hotels with a bad air conditionning!
9. Better music app
10. Why on earth is security grouped with location?
I have given you mine.
- What are you innovative features that Google could implement to beat the crap out of Apple's smart*ss. Universal remote control, thermometer,...?
- What are you missing most?
- What do you find poorly implemented and would like to see improved?
I will post the best ideas in the first post as they come along.

My most desired Android feature? The option to run stock on any Android device.
I don't care if it's an OTA or I have to find a computer. Just let me choose. And I don't want the option to turn off whatever the manufacturer has barfed on my device. I want the clean install pure Nexus stock.
Aside from that? I want the lockscreen to actually run realtime, weather, stocks, email, etc. rather than be useless. And I don't want to tack on three other apps out of the box to get the job done. I want it working the minute I turn it on, included in all future Android releases. It's 2011.

I would like most a screen capture feature like the one iPhone has by pressing power + menu key and a better music player. Yes both of these are available on market but no too integrated to work seamlessly like the iPhone.
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Screen shot already there in stock! Press and hold the home button and then press and hold the power button!

kevinlee0602 said:
I would like most a screen capture feature like the one iPhone has by pressing power + menu key and a better music player. Yes both of these are available on market but no too integrated to work seamlessly like the iPhone.
On your SGSII you have a screen capture feature. Just press home+power a short time and it makes a screenshot.
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an exchange push client without have battery drain. this is also possible with the gmail client. so please fix this also for exchange

Why would you want to defrag a flash memory
It will rather damage it than make it faster

Have separate screen timeout settings from phone lock.

USB reverse tethering (so I can use my PC connection and spare my data plan ) Can't be that hard since Windows Mobile could do it years and years ago...

du.renato said:
USB reverse tethering (so I can use my PC connection and spare my data plan ) Can't be that hard since Windows Mobile could do it years and years ago...
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Yes would be nice if Stock android had that. HTC Sense already has it, so...Google should add this as a standard.

The ability to have on every phone stock Android!!! ​
This give us an option to run CM7, MiUi, or whatever we want on our phones!!! So everybody can make on his phone, what they need/want!!!
This would free us!!!
We can make a petition, like with the bootloaders!
Cheers

Ramalama said:
The ability to have on every phone stock Android!!! ​
This give us an option to run CM7, MiUi, or whatever we want on our phones!!! So everybody can make on his phone, what they need/want!!!
This would free us!!!
We can make a petition, like with the bootloaders!
Cheers
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GPU rendered UI for smooth transitions, CPU does a sloppy work even if its dualcore.

as other people stated before, i would also appreciate the internet sharing from the pc to the phone, as i'm used to, coming from windows mobile. an alternative would be to be able to use ad-hoc wi-fi, so that i could build a network bridge through my netbook to my wired network. that's something i miss every day, as in certain spots of my house, i don't receive any coverage from my wi-fi and using the netbook as a free accesspoint would be awesome.
while we are on the networking issue: can anybody tell me a good telnet client and a file explorer, that does not require root and offers the ability to access network shares or windows 7 homegroups?

this shouldn't be to hard as all android sense can already do this...

In honesty, I would like to be able to run ios apps
And game compatibilities between all Android hardware

A more standardized gaming API would be nice so we can have lots of great games like on iOS.

My Ten Cents
1. A better and customizable screen lock with many options.
2. A smarter dialer including a real T9 search engine like HTC dialers. Now that I am using RocketDialer instead, which is great for this.
3. Ability to connect internet over pc's connection when connected with wire.
4. More options for sound loudness and quality; including detailed settings for back speaker, head phone, bluetooth and incall volume settings. (This is actually number one priority for me)
5. Better Google apps integration for work especially for google docs and calendar.
6. A temperature sensor would be nice for room temperature.
7. A stronger vibrator with vibration presets
8. An easy option in somewhere, where we can say "do not turn off the screen and gps if connected to sats when connected to power source" (What do I have to do to use the device for navigation with google maps in my car connected to power source without turning off the screen?)
9. Better internet browsing; I mean we have these monsters in our hands, yet each different browser act differently on the same page, especially when it comes to text zooming and reflow; there must be an easier way of it. Plus, better flash support.
10. Better headset please with the phone; I don't want to look into alternatives after purchasing the phone.
Regards.

I think HW acceleration would be the best for Android, instead of just trying to hide the lag with raw power (which isn't working). Look at WP7 and see how smoothed everything is compared to any non-GS2, and it does it with less powerful hardware.

Regarding Moto G's battery life and saving tips

My previously phone was just a low budget Xperia X8 but I was used to only have to charge it each 2/3 days with normal usage.
So, after buying the Moto G 2nd Gen and having to charge it twice a day in the first days of usage (heavy usage I must say), I started to try to find ways how I could optimize the battery of my new phone.
I started reading about how what changed with newer versions of Android, the issues lollipop has and the impact services and apps have on the battery life in current versions of Android with the technologies our phone has.
I started looking into tasker and many other apps, and thinking in rooting my phone to have even more control over the battery usage, but even without rooting, I manage to make it last 3 days with normal usage (more than 7 hours on screen time heavy usage).
At that time I was like "Great! Now I only have to charge it once every 3 days just like my old Xperia X8". But then it came to me, my smartphone wasn't actually that smart after all the tweaks I had to make to save its battery.
At that point I started to do lots of tests to check what's really draining the battery and after all those tests now I have a battery that lasts 2/3 days with normal usage while having a true smartphone!
This is what you should do:
Note: I have the model XT1068 and I'm using two sim cards with it, and you'll need the app tasker for a crucial step but you will NOT need root.
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WHAT YOU SHOULD DISABLE:​
- Disable "Ok Google" detection -> big battery drainer
- Disable the following apps:
Assist
Motorola Alert
Motorola Contextual Services
Motorola Migration
Motorola One Time Init
Motorola Notification
HP print service (you already have google cloud print service)
Motorola Init Services
Help
Motorola One Time Init
You should also disable all the google apps you don't want to use.
- Disable Wifi always on network search
- Disable Wifi every time you are not using it
- Disable Auto-Sync (you'll have auto-sync back in a more smart and efficient way using tasker)
- Disable Ambient Notifications (you already have the notification led to warn you about incoming notifications)
- Disable Audio Effects
- Temporarily enable auto-sync so you could manually disable all the apps you don't need to be synced (ex.: Google Plus, Drive, etc). Disable auto-sync after you are done with the changes.
- Disable all those reports being automatically sent (sorry developers, but that really adds up to the battery usage with multiple apps doing it)
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WHAT YOU SHOULD ENABLE TO KEEP YOUR PHONE SMART
(Unless you don't ever use it)​
- Enable Bluetooth (Bluetooth 4.0 consumes nearly 0 battery while not paired to a device, even paired it consumes little power with newer devices)
- Enable Mobile Data
- Enable location in high precision mode (it will activate GPS when an app needs it)
- Enable Auto- Brightness (adjust the brightness slider to 60% or less after that, the lower the better)
- Enable notification light
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SETTINGS AND TIPS​
- If you don't have a really strong 3g sinal switch to 2g mode
- Set the screen to go off after 30 second or 1 minute
- Use a magnetic flip cover so it automatically awakes your device and also automatically makes the screen go off when you close it
- Do not use apps known for their heavy impact on battery !VERY IMPORTANT! ( Use Chrome to access facebook, don't let your online messaging apps be always on, etc.)
- Don't use wifi with a bad signal, well, better said don't use any network with a low signal or else your battery will drain fast. Enable Air plain mode if your network signal is really low.
- Keep your internal storage with >600MB of free storage
- Use only simple methods of unlocking your phone (Don't use anything that uses location services, camera, microphone, etc.)
- Do not let apps being always on using network services like GPS (adjust the app setting so it only uses when you use the app)
- Get rid of any app you installed but don't need
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Tasker: Making your phone more efficient​
- Create a profile that goes on while you have AC power connected and when it goes on it enables Wi-fi and Auto-Sync, when it goes off it disables those features.
- Create another profile that repeats from the time you wake up until the average time you go to bed, and make it repeat every 2 or more hours (depends on your sync needs). What it should do is enable auto.sync, wait 3 minutes, then disable auto-sync
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Congratulations now you have a true smartphone with a good battery life!
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I think I didn't forget about anything, but if I did I will edit this post.

Actually, disable any unused or unwanted app and install Greenify to force quit the rest of these apps you can't disable.

ksuuk said:
Actually, disable any unused or unwanted app and install Greenify to force quit the rest of these apps you can't disable.
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For Greenify to work as intended you need to have root access on your device. For those with root access Greenify can be a great way to freeze apps you really need but are programmed to be always running in the background. Without root access Greenify to work automatically consumes a lot of battery because it needs to turn on your screen while the device is asleep.
I decided to not talk about root methods to keep this guide accessible to everyone

rbmaster said:
For Greenify to work as intended you need to have root access on your device. For those with root access Greenify can be a great way to freeze apps you really need but are programmed to be always running in the background. Without root access Greenify to work automatically consumes a lot of battery because it needs to turn on your screen while the device is asleep.
I decided to not talk about root methods to keep this guide accessible to everyone
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ksuuk said:
Actually, disable any unused or unwanted app and install Greenify to force quit the rest of these apps you can't disable.
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*Duplicate Thread*
The guide how to get the best possible battery life on your moto g deals with all this and goes into advanced and root methods to reduce battery consumption on your device
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Duck86 said:
*Duplicate Thread*
The guide how to get the best possible battery life on your moto g deals with all this and goes into advanced and root methods to reduce battery consumption on your device
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It's not a duplicate thread. In your guide the goal is to have the best battery life possible but for that it compromises a lot of the features that makes the phone smart, it compromises convenience of use for every 0.01% of battery life possible.
I read it and it's a well written guide but with a very different goal. The goal of this guide is to have a good battery life while having most of the smart features available.

Sorry, you have too much conflicting info in this guide. Having auto brightness enabled certainly doesn't make it a smart phone and definitely not set at 60%. Suggesting having data always on isn't always a good move, especially for those with limited data.
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Tel864 said:
Sorry, you have too much conflicting info in this guide. Having auto brightness enabled certainly doesn't make it a smart phone and definitely not set at 60%. Suggesting having data always on isn't always a good move, especially for those with limited data.
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Auto = automatically, that's a smart feature, it adjusts the brightness of the screen automatically. Nowadays, the way it is programmed makes it way more battery efficient than before. Adjusting it at a maximum of 60% is just a guideline, but 60% auto brightness is not 60% brightness., the value is just a guideline for the auto brightness algorithm.
About the data always on, having data on doesn't require that much extra power, it only drains more power IF some application requests data. While not the most efficient solution, in Android Lollipop there's no better way to keep feature like auto.sync on without having the data always on, unless you have root access. If you have root access you can set up tasker to automatically enable and disable mobile data when the phone tries to auto.sync and/or when the screen is on.
As I said previously, this is a guide for everyone, no root access required, and the goal is to have the phone with as many smart features on as possible while retaining a good enough battery life. You can have all those features on and still have a good battery life, is it worth to disable most of the features of our phones just to gain a little extra battery life? I mean, if you really want to make your phone's battery last weeks just turn it off ^^'. Now seriously, I have auto-sync for all the features I need, I have location services apps all running fine, I can pair my Bluetooth devices just by turning them on, I can simply open the gps app in my car and it will get signal without me doing anything else, I can take a picture and immediately send to someone over the internet without having to do anything else, and many many other features I have that I wouldn't if I just turned everything off to get a little extra battery. Not worth for me, I want a smartphone, I want to take it out of my pocket and having it ready to use.
Follow this guide and check the difference in battery life it makes, than tell me if it is not worth. Well, for certain profiles I can see it not being worth, I mean if you use your phone primarily for gaming or if you don't use almost any of the feature a smartphone has, I can totally see the point in having them turned off.
Edit: Forgot to talk about the limited data plans. I have a very limited data plan, 500MB per month but communication apps don't have a limit on my data plan (facebook, skype, what's app, snapshot, etc). I never used the 500MB of the mobile data, when wi fi is available I use it and only transfer large files over wifi, so as you can see even 500MB is enough to browse the web and sync my services. If you don't have a data plan or yours not enough for you then you have to choices: 1- Get a data plan suitable for your needs; 2- Disable Mobile Data. Back to the guide, there's people too with limited data plans in their home connections, using wifi, should I tell everyone to have wi fi always turned off because of those people?
If your data plan has limitations, that's something you have to take in mind but has nothing to do with the phone itself. If I have no money for a vehicle, I have to travel by foot, should I tell everyone to travel by foot? I hope you get my point and sorry for the wall of text.

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It's not a duplicate thread. In your guide the goal is to have the best battery life possible but for that it compromises a lot of the features that makes the phone smart, it compromises convenience of use for every 0.01% of battery life possible.
I read it and it's a well written guide but with a very different goal. The goal of this guide is to have a good battery life while having most of the smart features available.
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Dude, not trying to argue with you here, I'm just saying that everything you've mentioned here is also in my guide. People can pick and choose what they want from it.
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I have auto-sync for all the features I need, I have location services apps all running fine, I can pair my Bluetooth devices just by turning them on, I can simply open the gps app in my car and it will get signal without me doing anything else, I can take a picture and immediately send to someone over the internet without having to do anything else, and many many other features I have that I wouldn't if I just turned everything off to get a little extra battery. Not worth for me, I want a smartphone, I want to take it out of my pocket and having it ready to use.
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I can do everything you just said on my phone. I haven't sacrificed any smart capabilities, but I also get 3 days usage from my phone In fact, with tasker, I don't have to do any switching on or off. It does it all for me. That's the point of it, and why it is such a good battery saver.
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Dude, not trying to argue with you here, I'm just saying that everything you've mentioned here is also in my guide. People can pick and choose what they want from it.
I can do everything you just said on my phone. I haven't sacrificed any smart capabilities, but I also get 3 days usage from my phone In fact, with tasker, I don't have to do any switching on or off. It does it all for me. That's the point of it, and why it is such a good battery saver.
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Following your guide you get: No no bluetooth, no network connection during the night, no location services, no auto-brightness, no possibility to download files over wifi while the screen is off, etc. Of course people could read it and chose only what they want, but then they wouldn't be following your guide.
What I suggest in this guide is a very different approach from yours. In this guide, the goal is to have the most features on as possible, while having a good battery life. The goal of your guide is to have the maximum battery life while the phone is on while maintaining basic functionality.
Different approach, different goal, I don't see how this can be seen as a duplicate.
Edit: Oh, and to follow your guide there's the need to have root access.

rbmaster said:
Following your guide you get: No no bluetooth, no network connection during the night, no location services, no auto-brightness, no possibility to download files over wifi while the screen is off, etc. Of course people could read it and chose only what they want, but then they wouldn't be following your guide.
What I suggest in this guide is a very different approach from yours. In this guide, the goal is to have the most features on as possible, while having a good battery life. The goal of your guide is to have the maximum battery life while the phone is on while maintaining basic functionality.
Different approach, different goal, I don't see how this can be seen as a duplicate.
Edit: Oh, and to follow your guide there's the need to have root access.
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Why do you need network services when you are asleep? Bluetooth is available whenever you want, just use tasker to automate it. Similarly, use tasker to automate location services. I clearly say in the guide that if you *need* auto brightness you can adjust it to your own specification using gravitybox. Its perfectly easy to download files when the screen is off, just change the the threshold in tasker. Admittedly, I didn't mention that, but If that's the only problem, I can add that into the tutorial
You don't need root access for all of the tutorial. I have a whole section devoted to basic ROM settings, which has everything you have in your op. Plus tasker and greenify sections that don't necessarily need root for everything.
But whatever, you know best.
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Duck86 said:
Why do you need network services when you are asleep? Bluetooth is available whenever you want, just use tasker to automate it. Similarly, use tasker to automate location services. I clearly say in the guide that if you *need* auto brightness you can adjust it to your own specification using gravitybox. Its perfectly easy to download files when the screen is off, just change the the threshold in tasker. Admittedly, I didn't mention that, but If that's the only problem, I can add that into the tutorial
You don't need root access for all of the tutorial. I have a whole section devoted to basic ROM settings, which has everything you have in your op. Plus tasker and greenify sections that don't necessarily need root for everything.
But whatever, you know best.
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I don't understand what's your point. You go into another thread (this thread) and start to make comparisons between your guide and this guide. They are two different guides and in no point I refer to your guide. This is just another guide, and the goal of the guide is clearly explained in the OP. This is not a contest to see who's guide is better as far as I know.
And I'll repeat one more time, to make more advanced automation tasks using tasker (like enabling and disabling network access) you need root access, specially in Android Lollipop. You also need root access for greenify and similar apps. This guide is for everyone, no root required for anything. People see it, and follow if they like. After following they check how their phone is performing. If it's performing to their expectations great, if not they will probably check other guides until they find something they like..
About Bluetooth, I suggest you to read first on how Bluetooth 4.0 works first before arguing about it. You can start here, in the good old Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_low_energy

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For Greenify to work as intended you need to have root access on your device. For those with root access Greenify can be a great way to freeze apps you really need but are programmed to be always running in the background. Without root access Greenify to work automatically consumes a lot of battery because it needs to turn on your screen while the device is asleep.
I decided to not talk about root methods to keep this guide accessible to everyone
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I don't have rooted phone and I'm using manually Greenify & Greenify shortcut hibernate & lock to shut down apps, which sometimes automatically starts. As I don't play games, listen music and chat, phone is quite usable with this setup. With KitKat (I think most is the same with LolliPop) I made a list of the disabled apps:
android live wallpapers
aonlt
assist
audio effects
basic daydreams
bowsermessage
bubbles
chrome (using boat browser)
com.android.provider.partber
com.android.wallpaper.holospirit
com.motorola.mesh
com.motorola.multisimsettings
com.motorola.interfaceperm
com.qualcomm.qcom_qmi
configupdates
cqatest
devicemanagement
email (using profimail)
echange services
face unlock
fm radio
gallery (using quickpick)
gmail
google korean keyboard
google launcher config (using apex launcher)
google one time init
google partner setup
google play movies
google play kiosk
google play music
google play games
google play books
google hindy input
google keyboard (using multiling)
google voice
google pinyin input
goole ++
hangouts
help
hp print service plugin
html viewer
iwnn ime
iwnn keyboard
magic smoke wallpapers
market feedback agent
motorola alert
motorola boot services
motorola checkin
motorola contextual services
motorola migrate
motorola notification
motorola one time init
music visulaization wallpapers
oma client provisioning
phasebeam
photo screensavers
picasa uploader
cloudprinting
preset
print spooler
setupwizard
setup
talkback
trusted devices
youtube

I tried this guide and I can confirm that there's is a noticeable increase in battery life. My phone isn't rooted, and all my attempts to keep battery consumption as low as possible in the past resulted in having a phone by far less "smart" than it is now. Many thanks rbmaster .

I really couldn't follow that other guide there were too many applications it was too lengthy, this one really seems to the best, disabled everything I was told + going to download the app tasker.

Up to 12 hours of continual use on stock ROM!

Note... the info below is old hat... I have made a breakthrough to breaking the 10 hr barrier of continual usage. Right now it is still in testing phase, will the latest Google Services and Play Store. Will post my final addition next week or so. Stay tuned!
Yes, I just figured out what is needed to get the most out of stock 4.4.2 with the latest google services as of Jan 15th.
The key is blocking a select set of services within play store and play services.
As of recent, Google has disclosed that more integration and services will be added to the upcoming update. So i aso included disabling auto system updates.
So my list of blocked services will include everything needed to keep your device from creating more battery drain and issues later.
Posted an attached file for a disable service. The config file is to restore, and use to auto block your Google Services. Since it covers a lot of apps, it will take some time depending on how many apps you have that are in the list.
Yes, I included within the configuration file, is disabled un needed services in popular apps. They do not break or create errors. Only a few apps may loose sync or notification functionality, but can be undone within disable service by opening the apps services list and selecting the disabled service to enable it.

Known issues with apps.
Peel smart remote for S5, and for Tab, both have update info pushed to notifications. They no longer do the push through notification, which many users complain about.
Google Geofence service is disabled... no longer are you able to setup a parameter around you to set actions when leaving and entering. Also Maps and other apps that require geofence will not be able to search around your location for active people around you. Though location works just fine, so maps works pretty much like the old way of placing you where you are at, and populating the map with POI Info.
Google Network Location is disabled. Both Google Geofence and Network Location eat up bits of bandwidth and 2% of battery power per hour, no matter if they are used or not. No longer network location will assist in tracking you. Google will rely on GPS only.
Widgets on Google and stock apps, most may not function. I personally dislike widgets as they eat resources, and I can do most anything I need without widgets, and most of the time just as fast.
Google Fileapkintentoperation service, reporting, and measurement service all have been disabled. Don't report any usage back to Google. Does not break paid apps, or play store usage.
Google Sync, on every thing but Calender. Though it does not disable the ability to manually sync google apps. Just because you turn off sync manually, it still is running in background, so removing the sync services keeps things clean.
Google backup services. No need since I use Ti Backup pro
Google package verification, restore, and reschedule services have been disabled in play store. No more pushing of system updates and apk monitoring. I use norton for scanning downloaded apk files.
Some streaming apps may not remember past usage. Blocked some services that track you.
I also use prevent running to keep memory usage low, and keep background apps from running when closed.
Will post a system battery level snap shot and developer system stats to show how things are running, once my battery level hits 5%

7.5 hrs and 19% battery left
Ok, I can assume with certainly, I can get 9.5hrs of continuous battery time from a single charge.
I tested with screen brightness set at auto, 1 hr of Miracast play back of a 720p video, 1.5 hrs of Miracast playback of two streamed shows from channel apps, 1 download of a 1.2gb torrent file, 1 movie download using vpn and channel app. Used Chrome Dev, Outlook and a few minor instances of other apps. Along with a 10 minute test on sleeping and a 10 minute hibernation, to verify no issues popped up with services disabled.
Here is my 7.5hr battery stats and developer apps stats...

12.5 hours always on moderate use
Yep, I get 8% battery use per hour with an mix of light app use. Mind you, most all apps I run are not memory resident. As Google and internet pros have led end users into believing that cached and background apps save on power and speed up multi tasking. Bah!
I did not have the time to run my device a full 9.5 hours in my test initially. So i had to cut short and use data to extrapolate that shutting down background un used services and killing cached and background apps have made an 8 hr device into a performance monster that does not eat battery power to do so.
Since then I have recharged and will try a test run with minimal screen time off and random sparatic app use. My calculations are 12.5 hrs max. Given the 8% per hour discharge with screen in auto brightness mode, power may increase as the environment brightens up.
I assume if using power save mode, having blocking mode on, and with grey scale enabled, my device could achieve 15 hrs always on run time. The only real way to break the 15 hrs always on run time would be to go into airplane mode or and have the display turn off when waiting, but never sleep.
This is all based on a 1% every 10 minutes discharge rate to be able to keep above 15 hrs constantly on run time.

Oops! Forgot to add
I don't reboot much, but realized some may shut down or reboot time to time. If a reboot is done one key component resets time to time on a reboot. Just go back into disable service and open google play services and search for injector. You will see two, but one may be disabled. Just disable the active one and It will take care of the Google services that had started in background. If both are active, something got reset in play services that helps re enable the injector service. You can restore the disable service backup and it should clear up any reset services. Though it will change what services you changed in apps that you needed a service to run. So be sure once you make a change, to back up, so if you need to re apply my play services settings after a restart, it won't undo any of your changes.

As an update... I do get 1 hr of use per every 8% of battery. It took a few discharges and full recharges to have the device recalibrate after doing my disable service setup to kill services not needed and Google play services that eat battery and performance.
I have done a few changes, but they seem to make a minor significance. Once I am done playing around with some tweaks and verifying, I my post an updated config backup, if they turn out to be improvements.

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Update... 12 to 10 hours continual use on a single charge!
Yep I was board with Saturday Daytona rain... so what better to test my latest tweaks with the latest Play Store and Play Services.
Had to do a bit of digging, as there are many more services that I don't need but may come in handy later... like Google Pay, Ha! ? what a joke! Well actually with every freaking iteration of Google's services and Play Store, one hopes they don't muck up the mess by fixing, or hosing something you expect to run smoothly and efficiently. There is more to it than just way too many services running in background. It's about how the services run cleanly and not become a load when not used.
Well here it is... over 54 services killed in my list! With only one issue... Maps when promptly closed will error, but it is a visual annoyance if anything. So, don't close Maps before it runs for 30 seconds, or you will error closing.
Also don't try and send error reports or debug info, as they are not going to happen!
For the most part manual syncing within google and tied in apps are intact, but most all auto syncing is disabled.
Will post my latest and greatest DisableService backup config for everyone's use, once I go over a few test runs with reboots and other what nots.
Remember to kill History Injection Service manually after each reboot or wait for the reapplication of the backup config to complete.
Finally I see all the speed and battery improvements that KK once touted as major improvements over JP. It was a crying joke that lasted till now.
Only if Google and Samsung would make a tablet work as a tool not a smart phone, then the benefits of using a tablet for intensive tasks will out weigh getting by with ones pocket phone. This is what students need for their devices to be a 100% duty cycle device under high demands during a days use. No tablet can match that while being forced waist battery and resources for Google analytics, tracking, and social media tie in. Tablets are tools not some monkey device that most peeps have in their pocket!

Almost done!
11.5 hrs is currently obtainable on continuous use on a single charge, without Tasker, any battery apps, and greenify. With overlay disabled and forced GPU acceleration. Both are battery draining options, that nobody will enable when going for extending battery times.
I am trying my best to keep PlayServices down to 15% at device idle. It seems that the kernel with play framework will use 5% no matter what I do. Right now the bottle neck to obtain 12 hrs is what version of PlayServices you use.
I am not going to mess with testing each iteration of play services to get 12 hrs of continuous battery use on a full charge.
To obtain the best battery consumption, one may want to tweak their network by use of a sysctl.config file or shell script to run in init.d or smanager. I find ports waiting to end or close will eat at the battery by how the network or should i say by PlayService's active polling.
I find terminating after 45 seconds of waiting instead of 15 minutes more beneficial to longer battery time. As a wee cpu hit, it is not bad, but it compounds cpu hits by making throttling push the cpu at higher levels than without the polling of closed port termination.
You can watch what i explain when watching cpu performance, by turning on block background data while running a few apps, and comparing to the same apps while block background data is disabled. CPU stats will level off faster and be less prone to hit higher speeds when throttling.
As with my original statement, you will need to kill the locationhistoryinjector service as Google PlayServices will enable it at every boot. It Is a key component to find my mobile and device manager.
My config files disable device manager and find my mobile, along with tracking and Google background data.
What you end up with is a cleaner android that is mostly disconnected from Google, yet able to function better and use paid for play apps without issues, outside of some options tied to google services.
I included my app ops config along with my other updated configs. You will need to remove the .txt extension from the prevent.list and move it in the sdcard/android location for the piebridge app files folder.

Done
I removed all previous attachments on my config backups and posted the latest config backups that kill most of Google's chimera functions within android without breaking play store. All services in regards to NFC, Google Security, network location, automatic background sync, and system usage monitoring have been either disabled or hindered, to eliminate performance degradation and battery consumption.
What you get is a sleek fast running OS, that rivals any custom kernel. Believe me, I used what's available here for mods, and found through trial and error, the best method in keeping overall functionality is to slim things down by using the three apps I have configured.
Most feel what is the point to all this... well disabling features in settings, does not stop google from running the services in background. They run and are tied into other services you may use. Once manually disabled, you may find a service you use fail because it relied on the background service google uses to track and monitor. It is not a matter of killing your favorite app, it is a matter of using an app that does what you need privately and without need of so many background services hogging up resources. Google apps are not the best, just give you options in one package, which some like as to being simpler than having to switch between apps.
I may not be as fast as a custom kerneled device running at 1920mhz or throttled down to 100mhz with profiles enabled, but in all aspects to smoothness and overhead generated by kernel manager apps, greenify, Tasker, and amplify... what gains with customization are lost, compared to what you find in my simple yet very effective method to free your device from Google's constraints.
To be secure in apk installation I use Norton, by unfreezing it before installing apps. Then freezing when done.
For device security, I recommend what ever 3rd party apk meets your needs. As you cannot trust google or samsung with device management. You may find a paid app to perform the job, as most free ones will tie into Google's management or location api system, and fail to function. They must use their own set of services, to hook to existing features not Google's services api.
As for NFC this device has none, so it is a mute issue. Syncing of tied in Google services for social and messaging apps, deal with it... your phone should be primary for syncing. It only takes a quick pull down to sync if you are busy within an app or multi tasking.

One last update
I removed another set of backup configs.. luckily nobody got to them as they were intentionally placed a few replies previously. I do such things to keep peeps on their toes as to know what they are doing by actually reading first!
So... what prompted my change was my error log on certain functions and booting.
Made a wee change to clean up errors without loosing performance or battery gains from my weeding out services and background processes.
Also somewhere in my configs a while back locstionhistoryinjector stays disabled. So this Is a set it and forget it deal, no searching for the blasted service to disable after each reboot.
Alright here are my backup config files along with my frozen apps in screen shots. Missing are... ringtonesbackup and a number of widgets that were permanently removed. Also I have included other side loaded apps that are not part of our stock firmware.
Here is a wee trick nobody talks about... when you shut down or reboot, turn on airplane mode before you do so. Reason being, when the device starts up, it will only take 3 minutes from boot to home screen to fully recover into system idle. Once system is in idle, turn off airplane mode. It helps with less lag and a few apps from trying to gain network access during boot, and slowing down system boot tasks. Once network is operational from disabling airplane mode, the apps in my prevent run list will not wake for network access, until launched. Pretty cool beans, aye!
Also as another trick, because play store sends data when removing apps, I recommend using TouchWiz app removal in the app drawer to remove apps, as it does not send data to do so. Ti Backup does good as well, but depending on its settings may communicate with play store to update play store info.
Currently you can have up to 15 hrs of continuous run time with wifi and screen on during idle. Though I imagine about 2 days worth of mp3 playback time when screen is left off, as a player only, and no other app like Dolby Audio to tweak compressed audio.

In my previous reply i found some errors, and removed some attachments.
I have replaced my disable service backup config with a super modified one that give superior operation by removing tap and pay, fit, NFC, proximity, wearable, and allowed some main sources of required services to run, but made the secondary services associated with them disable, to make the primary service ineffective and keep polling down.
I assume either wearable or health have been a major cause to battery drain since KK was introduced. If you look at the txt file, there are about 100 sub services within the play services service that I disabled. 2x as many as I provided before.
Even though some of the services i have tried to combat from effecting the performance and optimizing battery for longer use, the few I had removed being blocked from running, don't seem to have much effect when their codependent services are disabled.
So, what I get is.. OS using 3% to 4%, Android system 2% to 3%, and screen using 94% to 95% of battery power at idle while the screen is on, and waiting for activity.
Though i will have to redo my screen shots for frozen apps, as i had used a testing config for frozen app effectiveness.
Some apps like Google contacts sync must be removed, as It is an evasive sync service. Samsung is not that way with all of its sync services.
What my super modified file does, is unleashes Android 4.4.x power of operation. For the first time with KK, I have eliminated stuttering and multitasking is more like what it should be with background apps or media being ran during tasks. It is the closest thing to running naked KK, but you have full ability to operate paid for apps and apps that require the latest play services.

so may i know what are the detailed steps in order to enjoy this battery trick? rooted device with xposed?

yweising said:
so may i know what are the detailed steps in order to enjoy this battery trick? rooted device with xposed?
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Yep, I had to root my I467 with kingo root with a PC connection and install super su before removing kingo root.
I will post a revision to my settings soon. I found that I over did keeping google services from starting. So my new method is minimized to allow most all newer technology work. The only big things I killed are Chrome cast, as it is huge and really eats up battery. Thank god for Samsung ' s method to make miracast a user enabled service, not a constantly running one. Geofence and geocode as they are always running as well, and have little use for daily activities. I would think virtual gear Wil need it, but i live my life in the real world around me.
Again, I killed system updates, and some automated sync services that run constantly no matter if you have them disabled in the account.
The only drawback is maps will error if you don't wait for location to lock and the app has been running less than 30 seconds. Plus Network location will always be disabled.
I am finding my latest settings to be best all around.
Will post them by the end of the week.

I have made my disable service less restrictive as the main culprits to battery drainage can be stopped and kept from running without need to add more to the list on google services.
You will not be able to use geo code or geo fence, device manager, nearby services as Samsung's services are better and dont eat battery when not in use, apk ad and anyalitics, self update, chrome cast as it runs and consumes battery even if you dont connect, location history and sharing, network location, place detectioh, and some internal reporting services, along with some sync options in account... but you will still be able to auto sync gmail, photos, drop box, calander, and contacts.
It allows for the most robust google services to still be active, such as fit, wear, notifications, internal messaging system and tap and pay.
You go from over 8 minutes of activity after reboot down to 2 to 3 minutes of cpu activity depending on what apps you run and allow to load in memory.
Just download disable service from the play store, restore the backup file from the internal sdcard and wait for confirmation.
You will need root!
Xposed has two modules that I like to use both backup files are in my previous reply, a few back. I suggest after installing prevent run, to go into the android folder and find the piebridge folder near the bottom and place the backup there, and remove the txt file extension. Once you reboot to activate the xposed module, the app will see and load the backup, before replacing when you change the settings.

Closest to making google services not eat battery
yweising said:
so may i know what are the detailed steps in order to enjoy this battery trick? rooted device with xposed?
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Here my last option to rid battery consumption.
I blocked most all of the internal services that deal with sending data back to google. A revised plan that started with killing the major services first instead of attacking bleeders as in pruning twigs from a branch. I went after the big branch first. So I was able to do more than before in smoothness and least amount of battery drain.
I think I left all the automatic sync still intact, as the reporting branch was more a problem, along with GMS services. Then intents to enable the services, and some upload syncs to kill off 90% of the reporting all together.
The only reports back are analytics and GCM with some GMS tied in. Google Mail and Maps function, but network location, places and geofence features are broken. Mainly because they leak data all the time.
The reason I had to attack my google services deeper, is because History Channel app needed some anti jitter done, as the new app would show a skip every so many seconds of play back.

i managed to flash back to 4.2.2 yesterday, will test it for few days after few cycles of battery charge. might test your backup file if it still cant stand for 6hrs.

wanna get better experience + faster tablet?
just flash CM13.0... I couldn't be happier with my Note 8.0...
samsung's KK is EOL already and slow.... many apps are incompatible anymore....

Crescendo Xenomorph said:
wanna get better experience + faster tablet?
just flash CM13.0... I couldn't be happier with my Note 8.0...
samsung's KK is EOL already and slow.... many apps are incompatible anymore....
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I beg to differ... there is not one app I use that I cannot update. In fact a ton of them had been updated in the last 30 days.
Kk is stable, and with the latest google services, and framework 4.4.4 I am able to push 1 hr of continual use on just 6% battery use.
Fact CM as never had a stable build that allows perfect miracast and spen funtionality. Plus I like Samsung's built in features, peeps copy, yet cannot beat. Like S5 QuickConnect, grey scale for reading and low light, color blind for easier to recognize color various paterns developers go nuts with, and interaction control for blocking a user defined segment or segments from touch or spen interaction.
You just need to replace systemui and secsettings on a 4.4.2 stock late release rom on a ATT i467 and bam no brainer.
If I want speed, which is really not worth the trouble, is boeffla kernal.
Right now I am tweaking my settings backup to allow Samsung or Google management tracking, by not breaking any GMS and GCM services, while optimizing boot speed and battery savings.
I found another way to address battery consumption and cpu hogging by google background services.

modded disableservice backup config file to allow managment
NOTE### I will re post my file soon... the one I had posted had some errors in settings, I had locked down too much on play store.
Here is my modded config backup to allow most of the google play features to function. Yet, will block google system updates and monitoring, plus limit traffic on your data plan.
It has been trimmed down to only adust google play store and google play services. No other apps and services are touched.
I blocked automated nearby functions, places logging, network location, geo fencing, app data sync, people and contacts sync, most of the backgroud stats and logging, and playstore security (proven by me as of recent, that it fails miserably).
Replace with a standalone anti virus app that monitors apk installations. Problem is only a hand full will do the job and even fewer will not be resource hogs and compound my tweaks. I would specify my pick, but I don't get paid for my work that may seem to advertise a paid app. If they make money I should for endorsement. Its the yank way so accept it.
All without breaking GMS and GCM services, and syncs to built in calander and fit data. All exteral app syncs can still be managed in accounts. You still have SMS, notifications, management functions, and api functionality.
This version is more like my original that I started with, but has some cool features. One is quicker boot to semi idle than any kitkat google services ever released. Low battery consumption and higher performance in multitasking. Very smooth witout need of a custom kernel.
Note you will need version 4.4.4 Framework, which never got updated automatically. So you will need to sideload. And the latest versions of play store and play services.
Clear out framework data, play services data, and play store data then reboot. Setup play store and services install disable services on a rooted device and load the backup settings file.