Hey XDA... I'm a bit of a noob, but have been trolling for a great deal and learned a lot and tested many a ROM. One of the phones I've been working with has these specs:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
Oct 21 2009,,22:33:27
From my understanding this goes by many names... Which one(s) of those should I use to search for compatible ROMs? I am particularly trying to get ICS working for the WIFI tether aspect. the only ROM I have been able to get working is GB cyanogenmod for the HTC Magic. I'm trying to repurpose this phone so that it will connect to a bluetooth DUN and then share that connection over WIFI as a sort of BT to WIFI repeater so that I can get just a few more meters for my roommate to borrow my connection with. Any and all help is greatly appreciated. Thank you so much.
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That device is the mytouch 3g with the 3.55mm headphone Jack. It runs roms made for the HTC dream/g1 and for the 32b sapphire/magic. Most of the roms for it are found in the g1 development section. Cm7 works on it reasonably well. The only really working ics rom for it is united ics, which has not been touched by its lead developer for almost a year (I've been busy)
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tvall said:
That device is the mytouch 3g with the 3.55mm headphone Jack. It runs roms made for the HTC dream/g1 and for the 32b sapphire/magic. Most of the roms for it are found in the g1 development section. Cm7 works on it reasonably well. The only really working ics rom for it is united ics, which has not been touched by its lead developer for almost a year (I've been busy)
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The OP's HBOOT says it's a 32a. Wouldn't he need a 32a ROM?
No, it does NOT mean that. His hboot says he has a 1.33 series spl, a 2.22 series radio, and a cpld of 13. This tells you that he needs to run a rom with an ebi0 kernel (and not a 2708+ one, that won't boot on cpld 13).
There are 3 main variants of the dream/sapphire. The 32b is what the g1 and original mytouch 3g are. They have 192mb ram total (some reserved for camera and radios and such, leaving you with almost 100mb left) run 1.33 series spls and 2.22 series hboot and use kernels build for such a config (ebi0). There is an updated radio and spl (2.22.28.25 or 2.22.27.08 radio and 1.33.0013 spl) that allow access to 15mb of additional ram (usually leaving roms with 109mb). Kernel devs labeled kernels built for this configuration 2708+.
Then there is the 32a. I've never owned a 32a device so this may have errors. It has 288mb ram, and can run a couple different radio combinations. It can run the same configuration as the 32b, at the cost of half your ram. The "old radio" setup consists of a 1.33 series spl and a 3.22 series radio. This runs ebi1 kernels. (The 32b can actually run this radio, but there are little benifits and doing so isn't very common. I've mostly seen people with a "Rogers dream" (it shipped with a 3.22 radio apparently) try to escape this setup. There then is the "new radio". This is a 6.35 radio and 1.76 spl. This is found on devices shipping with sense, and behaves more like an HTC hero than a magic. Flashing the 6.35 on a 32b device will cause a brick (and if I'm remembering correctly, the device didn't even respond to jtag).
And last, but not least, is the device in the op. It is a T-Mobile mytouch 3g 1.2. Is has 288mb ram, a headphone Jack (not present on any other model), reports cpld 13 is hboot, and strictly runs the 1.33.0013 spl with a 2.22 series radio. The update allowing 15mb additional ram for the 32b doesn't work here because the spl that allows that was our spl from the start. Flashing anything other than the 1.33.0013 (or the modded 1.33.0013d) spl from the 1.33 series will make half your ram vanish and your headphone jack not exist to the rom. This device also runs ebi0 kernels,.found in 32b roms.
For 32b and 32a old radio roms, installing the appropriate kernel is all that's needed to get it running on the other device. For roms that are built for the 6.35 radio, its very similar to porting from the HTC hero.
This device can be quite confusing if you know nothing of the variants.
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tvall said:
No, it does NOT mean that. His hboot says he has a 1.33 series spl, a 2.22 series radio, and a cpld of 13. This tells you that he needs to run a rom with an ebi0 kernel (and not a 2708+ one, that won't boot on cpld 13)...
And last, but not least, is the device in the op. It is a T-Mobile mytouch 3g 1.2. Is has 288mb ram, a headphone Jack (not present on any other model), reports cpld 13 is hboot, and strictly runs the 1.33.0013 spl with a 2.22 series radio. The update allowing 15mb additional ram for the 32b doesn't work here because the spl that allows that was our spl from the start. Flashing anything other than the 1.33.0013 (or the modded 1.33.0013d) spl from the 1.33 series will make half your ram vanish and your headphone jack not exist to the rom. This device also runs ebi0 kernels,.found in 32b roms.
For 32b and 32a old radio roms, installing the appropriate kernel is all that's needed to get it running on the other device. For roms that are built for the 6.35 radio, its very similar to porting from the HTC hero.
This device can be quite confusing if you know nothing of the variants.
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Thanks for the clarification. I saw 32A in the HBOOT output and jumped to the wrong conclusion.
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if you have a HTC spl what rom do you need to install on your phone or is that dependant on the 32a or b board ?
someone ?? anyone ??
your question makes no sense...every SPL is from HTC...
and you said something about 32A and 32B...
YES, the rom is dependant of your Board and your SPL...
the following combinations are possible
32 B -> 32B tag
32 A with 3.22 Radio -> 32A old Radio tag
32 A with 6.35 Radio (aka hero radio) -> 32 new radio tag
so for example if you got a 32A board with 3.22 radio, look for a rom which will work for 32A old radio....
you can get HTC SPLs and Google SPLs
i have a 32b board magic but the radio is 3.22 so what rom do install or do i have to do soemthing to the radio
Yep you can get HTC and Google SPL's but that doesn't really matter... The numbers are more important
based on what you asked, you have very little knowledge in this area. Doing some research, even the slightest will help.
I remmeber someone in a similar situation where they had 32B with 32A spl/radio (Don't trust me on this and go flash crazy with the radio/spl)
Just try out roms instead. You can't brick your phone flashing roms unless they change your radio/spl
Do not post questions in the development threads.
I'm trying to understand the radios for the MyTouch 3g phone.
Now a 32A and 32B have different radios, ones starting with a 3 (32a) others with a 2 (32b).
Now whats the latest for both of them? Does it matter if you're running a 32a radio on a 32b?
Also how does the SPL interact with the radio? For instance, I use the gold card and flash 1.33.2010 Engineering SPL onto a mytouch3g and converts it to a 32a device (H in SPL, and 3.xx.xx.xx radio), would I be ok with putting a 32b radio back on or does a 32b radio require the 1.33.2005 SPL?
Hello. Yes, theoricly you can flash any radeio but even you must be careful with the radios you flash, if you flash a 32A radio on a 32B you'll get a much slower phone, vice versa, you'll brick your phone. Use as rule update only IF really necessary for the rom to work and beeing stable to use.
According to your question the last radios for each are:3.22.20.17 (32A edition if you are using stock rom wich requires Hboot 1.33.xxxx) ; 6.35.10.18 (32A edition if you are using Hboot 1.72.xxxx); 2.22.19.26 (32B Edition if you are using Hboot 1.33.xxxx)
Everytime you change radio you'll have to change Hboot version to the according of your motherboard, and the recovery for the following edition.
Hope i've helped a bit lighten up how it works
tissimo said:
I'm trying to understand the radios for the MyTouch 3g phone.
Now a 32A and 32B have different radios, ones starting with a 3 (32a) others with a 2 (32b).
Now whats the latest for both of them? Does it matter if you're running a 32a radio on a 32b?
Also how does the SPL interact with the radio? For instance, I use the gold card and flash 1.33.2010 Engineering SPL onto a mytouch3g and converts it to a 32a device (H in SPL, and 3.xx.xx.xx radio), would I be ok with putting a 32b radio back on or does a 32b radio require the 1.33.2005 SPL?
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to answer that also. i flashed the 1.33.2010 spl and then flashed the ion radio (2.22.19.26i) and i seem to be just fine. i didnt even know the 2010 spl was the 32a spl. hmm im glad i didnt brick. and im running super D 1.11
I think my ROM problems must be related to the SPL I am using (since I have tried everything else, but cant boot into ANY ROM past the splashscreen even though recovery and fastbot work fine.)
Which SPL should I be using with an HTC magic that I think is 32b
I currently have the one linked to in the SPL thread that looks like this:
Engineering SPL 1.33.2005 - MD5 : 2B1AAA9012DC28F88C482E1B21A46FDD
(tmobile branded, original sep2009 mytouch)
Post ALL fastboot info here before we can help you..ALL + model and where your from
mumilover said:
Post ALL fastboot info here before we can help you..ALL + model and where your from
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Sapphire PVT 32B ENG S-Off H
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (SAPP30000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-3.22.20.17
Apr 20 2009, 15:30:43
Mytouch 3g version 1 (no 3.5 mm jack, no slide) (HTC Magic, right?)
Purchased through TMobile in Seattle, Washington, USA September 2009
How long do you let the phone sit at the splash screen before you give up on it? Anytime I've flashed a ROM I've had to wait around 5 minutes for it to fully boot up the first time. Outside of that, you may be flashing the wrong ROMs. Which one's have you tried?
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DonJuan692006 said:
How long do you let the phone sit at the splash screen before you give up on it? Anytime I've flashed a ROM I've had to wait around 5 minutes for it to fully boot up the first time. Outside of that, you may be flashing the wrong ROMs. Which one's have you tried?
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I give it 10-20 minutes every time.
I have tried 4 different ROM's, all from cyanogen (6.0.0 RC3, 5.08, 5.07, 4.2?)
Juneappal said:
Sapphire PVT 32B ENG S-Off H
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (SAPP30000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-3.22.20.17
Apr 20 2009, 15:30:43
Mytouch 3g version 1 (no 3.5 mm jack, no slide) (HTC Magic, right?)
Purchased through TMobile in Seattle, Washington, USA September 2009
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Ok... you just costed me 1.5 hours of research.
You have 32B board which means that you should use 32B roms.
BUT, you have H-tag version and 3.22 radio. All 32B devices is G-tag version.
So i was confused... but i got it finally.
This is what you have to do:
Using your current spl and radio you can only use 32A roms. I know that you have 32B board but the H-tag makes it an EBI1 device and therefore you need 32A roms.
Or you can change you radio to the G version which is 2.22.19.261.
You also have to change recovery to G version or you cannot boot recovery correct.
Using the 2.22 radio you then have to use 32B roms.
CAN ANYBODY CONFIRM MY LOGIC?
ezterry CAN YOU CONFIRM?
So it's up to you...
So the question is, which roms have you tested.. 32A or 32B roms?
And did you do a full wipe + deleted all unnecessary files/folders on the sdcard before you booted the rom?
mumilover said:
Ok... you just costed me 1.5 hours of research.
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I am much obliged ;-)
So the question is, which roms have you tested.. 32A or 32B roms?
And did you do a full wipe + deleted all unnecessary files/folders on the sdcard before you booted the rom?
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I have tested 32B roms. Always with full wipes of data, cache and dalvik.
Juneappal said:
I have tested 32B roms. Always with full wipes of data, cache and dalvik.
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There is your problem... :0)
You need 32A roms with the current spl/radio combination you have on your device :0)
Test one... like the froyoredux:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723520
And as you have done before...full wipe :0)
PS. Please report back on success or failure.
mumilover said:
There is your problem... :0)
You need 32A roms with the current spl/radio combination you have on your device :0)
Test one... like the froyoredux:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723520
And as you have done before...full wipe :0)
PS. Please report back on success or failure.
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IT [email protected]! Thank you SO SO MUCH! (For reference, I followed the link given and downloaded 32a black 1.8)
I don't understand how I ended up needing a 32A kernel when I have the 32B phone - I must have messed something up earlier, but it doesn't matter to me all that much - as long as this keeps functioning!
You did not mess anything up.
Your device is a 32B board but has the H-tag (The last H in the first line of the fastboot. H stands for HTC-version.. G stands for Google-version).
If you want to use 32B roms you just need to flash a different radio and recovery (as stated above) and you should be good to go.
But imho there is more 32A roms then 32B roms.. so just stay with current spl/radio combination!
But beware... since you have 32B you cannot flash the 6.35 radio... thats only for the 32A boards...
With other words:
SPL -> 1.33.20xx, where xx can be 05, 09 or 10 (just stay with the one you have now... no reason to change)
if using 3.22 radio -> must have H recovery and use 32A roms
if using 2.22 radio -> must have G recovery and use 32B roms
mumilover said:
You did not mess anything up.
Your device is a 32B board but has the H-tag (The last H in the first line of the fastboot. H stands for HTC-version.. G stands for Google-version).
If you want to use 32B roms you just need to flash a different radio and recovery (as stated above) and you should be good to go.
But imho there is more 32A roms then 32B roms.. so just stay with current spl/radio combination!
But beware... since you have 32B you cannot flash the 6.35 radio... thats only for the 32A boards...
With other words:
SPL -> 1.33.20xx, where xx can be 05, 09 or 10 (just stay with the one you have now... no reason to change)
if using 3.22 radio -> must have H recovery and use 32A roms
if using 2.22 radio -> must have G recovery and use 32B roms
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Is the H-tag the same thing as an H recovery? If not, where does that H-tag come into play? I ask because I was having frequent crashes associated with using the radio, so I thought maybe I should go back to the 32B radio. I did so, and tried to go back to a 32b recovery at the same time. Amon Ra's 1.7 is running for me for the first time, but the "H" is still showing in fastboot:
Sapphire PVT 32B ENG S-Off H
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (SAPP30000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.23.02
Apr 20 2009, 15:30:43
I am next going to try installing a G rom from sdcard. Am I on the right track?
yes you are on the right track.
The H will never change...
Isn't the 32B version slower than the one with 32A?
So I picked up a MyTouch from eBay a few weeks ago and have been toying with Rooting, Roms, etc. I noticed that when I install CM6 (Android 2.2) roms the phone will constantly reboot. I have been installing ROMs for the 32B original MyTouch board b/c when I pull up fastboot I get the information below
Device : SAPPHIRE PVT 32B ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (SAPP30000)
CPLD-10
Radio : 2.22.19.26I
The really strange thing is that the available phone storage is 274MB. Is it possible that the person who sold it to me had put a 32A board (from a MyTouch 1.2) in a original MyTouch body? It still would not explain why fastboot shows a 32B board. I am really confused. How can a 32B board have that much available RAM???
No, that's correct. Both phones have 512mb of ROM for storage. Half of that holds the OS, the rest for your apps. Where they differ is in RAM, this is where the OS and running apps are loaded into to run. The 32B(original myTouch) has 192 mb while the 32A(myTouch 1.2) has 288 mb.
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Well i can confirm that you have the right radio and spl.
The H or G in the first line er known to changed without cause if you play with spl/radio long enough :0)
Never happened to me though :0)
Dear friends,
I recently rooted my T-Mobile MT3g w/audio jack (I found this particular device very confusing). Installed CM 6.1 on it w/ ezBiffTestKernel20101024-ebi0_S.zip to avoid green tinting.
It's too bad I still have an old radio on the phone (upgraded from 1.6)
so my biggest concern is choosing right radio / SPL
I guess 2825 or 2708 (G) is the right choice, but what about SPL? I'd prefer engineered for future tweaks
My parameters are:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G (well I guess its not real 32A since its not Fender or Magic)
HBOOT-1.33.0013
RADIO-2.22.23.02
Any suggestion for radio / SPL versions will be highly appreciated!
I can even do some donations for the project, just tell me how and where.
PS. OK, more simple question
Can I flash 1.33.2010 and 2708 (2825) radio?
Also can they be flashed via Amon RA's custom recovery (from sd card)?
Thanks a lot in advance!
Mokele Mbembe said:
Dear friends,
I recently rooted my T-Mobile MT3g w/audio jack (I found this particular device very confusing). Installed CM 6.1 on it w/ ezBiffTestKernel20101024-ebi0_S.zip to avoid green tinting.
It's too bad I still have an old radio on the phone (upgraded from 1.6)
so my biggest concern is choosing right radio / SPL
I guess 2825 or 2708 (G) is the right choice, but what about SPL? I'd prefer engineered for future tweaks
My parameters are:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G (well I guess its not real 32A since its not Fender or Magic)
HBOOT-1.33.0013
RADIO-2.22.23.02
Any suggestion for radio / SPL versions will be highly appreciated!
I can even do some donations for the project, just tell me how and where.
PS. OK, more simple question
Can I flash 1.33.2010 and 2708 (2825) radio?
Also can they be flashed via Amon RA's custom recovery (from sd card)?
Thanks a lot in advance!
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Wrong section!
Do NOT post in Development unless you have developed something!
Mokele Mbembe said:
Dear friends,
I recently rooted my T-Mobile MT3g w/audio jack (I found this particular device very confusing). Installed CM 6.1 on it w/ ezBiffTestKernel20101024-ebi0_S.zip to avoid green tinting.
It's too bad I still have an old radio on the phone (upgraded from 1.6)
so my biggest concern is choosing right radio / SPL
I guess 2825 or 2708 (G) is the right choice, but what about SPL? I'd prefer engineered for future tweaks
My parameters are:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G (well I guess its not real 32A since its not Fender or Magic)
HBOOT-1.33.0013
RADIO-2.22.23.02
Any suggestion for radio / SPL versions will be highly appreciated!
I can even do some donations for the project, just tell me how and where.
PS. OK, more simple question
Can I flash 1.33.2010 and 2708 (2825) radio?
Also can they be flashed via Amon RA's custom recovery (from sd card)?
Thanks a lot in advance!
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