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[Q] Which SPL should I use with Magic

I think my ROM problems must be related to the SPL I am using (since I have tried everything else, but cant boot into ANY ROM past the splashscreen even though recovery and fastbot work fine.)
Which SPL should I be using with an HTC magic that I think is 32b
I currently have the one linked to in the SPL thread that looks like this:
Engineering SPL 1.33.2005 - MD5 : 2B1AAA9012DC28F88C482E1B21A46FDD
(tmobile branded, original sep2009 mytouch)

Post ALL fastboot info here before we can help you..ALL + model and where your from

mumilover said:
Post ALL fastboot info here before we can help you..ALL + model and where your from
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Sapphire PVT 32B ENG S-Off H
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (SAPP30000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-3.22.20.17
Apr 20 2009, 15:30:43
Mytouch 3g version 1 (no 3.5 mm jack, no slide) (HTC Magic, right?)
Purchased through TMobile in Seattle, Washington, USA September 2009

How long do you let the phone sit at the splash screen before you give up on it? Anytime I've flashed a ROM I've had to wait around 5 minutes for it to fully boot up the first time. Outside of that, you may be flashing the wrong ROMs. Which one's have you tried?
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DonJuan692006 said:
How long do you let the phone sit at the splash screen before you give up on it? Anytime I've flashed a ROM I've had to wait around 5 minutes for it to fully boot up the first time. Outside of that, you may be flashing the wrong ROMs. Which one's have you tried?
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I give it 10-20 minutes every time.
I have tried 4 different ROM's, all from cyanogen (6.0.0 RC3, 5.08, 5.07, 4.2?)

Juneappal said:
Sapphire PVT 32B ENG S-Off H
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (SAPP30000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-3.22.20.17
Apr 20 2009, 15:30:43
Mytouch 3g version 1 (no 3.5 mm jack, no slide) (HTC Magic, right?)
Purchased through TMobile in Seattle, Washington, USA September 2009
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Ok... you just costed me 1.5 hours of research.
You have 32B board which means that you should use 32B roms.
BUT, you have H-tag version and 3.22 radio. All 32B devices is G-tag version.
So i was confused... but i got it finally.
This is what you have to do:
Using your current spl and radio you can only use 32A roms. I know that you have 32B board but the H-tag makes it an EBI1 device and therefore you need 32A roms.
Or you can change you radio to the G version which is 2.22.19.261.
You also have to change recovery to G version or you cannot boot recovery correct.
Using the 2.22 radio you then have to use 32B roms.
CAN ANYBODY CONFIRM MY LOGIC?
ezterry CAN YOU CONFIRM?
So it's up to you...
So the question is, which roms have you tested.. 32A or 32B roms?
And did you do a full wipe + deleted all unnecessary files/folders on the sdcard before you booted the rom?

mumilover said:
Ok... you just costed me 1.5 hours of research.
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I am much obliged ;-)
So the question is, which roms have you tested.. 32A or 32B roms?
And did you do a full wipe + deleted all unnecessary files/folders on the sdcard before you booted the rom?
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I have tested 32B roms. Always with full wipes of data, cache and dalvik.

Juneappal said:
I have tested 32B roms. Always with full wipes of data, cache and dalvik.
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There is your problem... :0)
You need 32A roms with the current spl/radio combination you have on your device :0)
Test one... like the froyoredux:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723520
And as you have done before...full wipe :0)
PS. Please report back on success or failure.

mumilover said:
There is your problem... :0)
You need 32A roms with the current spl/radio combination you have on your device :0)
Test one... like the froyoredux:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723520
And as you have done before...full wipe :0)
PS. Please report back on success or failure.
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IT [email protected]! Thank you SO SO MUCH! (For reference, I followed the link given and downloaded 32a black 1.8)
I don't understand how I ended up needing a 32A kernel when I have the 32B phone - I must have messed something up earlier, but it doesn't matter to me all that much - as long as this keeps functioning!

You did not mess anything up.
Your device is a 32B board but has the H-tag (The last H in the first line of the fastboot. H stands for HTC-version.. G stands for Google-version).
If you want to use 32B roms you just need to flash a different radio and recovery (as stated above) and you should be good to go.
But imho there is more 32A roms then 32B roms.. so just stay with current spl/radio combination!
But beware... since you have 32B you cannot flash the 6.35 radio... thats only for the 32A boards...
With other words:
SPL -> 1.33.20xx, where xx can be 05, 09 or 10 (just stay with the one you have now... no reason to change)
if using 3.22 radio -> must have H recovery and use 32A roms
if using 2.22 radio -> must have G recovery and use 32B roms

mumilover said:
You did not mess anything up.
Your device is a 32B board but has the H-tag (The last H in the first line of the fastboot. H stands for HTC-version.. G stands for Google-version).
If you want to use 32B roms you just need to flash a different radio and recovery (as stated above) and you should be good to go.
But imho there is more 32A roms then 32B roms.. so just stay with current spl/radio combination!
But beware... since you have 32B you cannot flash the 6.35 radio... thats only for the 32A boards...
With other words:
SPL -> 1.33.20xx, where xx can be 05, 09 or 10 (just stay with the one you have now... no reason to change)
if using 3.22 radio -> must have H recovery and use 32A roms
if using 2.22 radio -> must have G recovery and use 32B roms
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Is the H-tag the same thing as an H recovery? If not, where does that H-tag come into play? I ask because I was having frequent crashes associated with using the radio, so I thought maybe I should go back to the 32B radio. I did so, and tried to go back to a 32b recovery at the same time. Amon Ra's 1.7 is running for me for the first time, but the "H" is still showing in fastboot:
Sapphire PVT 32B ENG S-Off H
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (SAPP30000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.23.02
Apr 20 2009, 15:30:43
I am next going to try installing a G rom from sdcard. Am I on the right track?

yes you are on the right track.
The H will never change...

Isn't the 32B version slower than the one with 32A?

my t-mobile Fender isnt what it seems!

Hi hoping someone can help me, i just recieved a 2ndhand t-mobile Mytouch Fender edition , i got this as it suppossed to have upgraded cpu and mem from the old magic.
I have a few issues weather its really a fender/1.2 - also its already rooted from what i can tell
Recovery says v1.6.2G - shouldnt it be H ?
Fastboot says :-
PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013
CPLD-13
RADIO-2.22.23.02 - looks like a 32b radio ?
OCT 2009 - these things were released jan 2010 i thought ?
Its running android 1.6
SetCpu overclocks to 576mhz and in info only reports total mem @ 195mb !!
Would like some advise on what you guys think this is before i install any roms, and different recovery images etc cas i think i got done over - hope not
Thanks

if it doesn't have a 3.5mm it is not a 1.2

I believe all fenders are 32B cause it says 32A but the roms dont work , So i did a 32B and they work fine

Newest radio?

Which radio is the newest for my mytouch. i know very little about the whole 32a 32b thing. info from my phone
Sapphire PVT 32a ship s-on g
hboot-1.33.0013 (sapp31000)
cpld-13
radio-2.22.23.02
oct 21 2009 22:33:27
phones a mytouch 1.2 running biffmod and amon ra custom recovery
i know it says 32a but when i first flashed a 32a rom it wouldnt do anything. I can flash g1 rom all day long though.
So what would be the latest radio for my device?

kevin4144 said:
Which radio is the newest for my mytouch. i know very little about the whole 32a 32b thing. info from my phone
Sapphire PVT 32a ship s-on g
hboot-1.33.0013 (sapp31000)
cpld-13
radio-2.22.23.02
oct 21 2009 22:33:27
phones a mytouch 1.2 running biffmod and amon ra custom recovery
i know it says 32a but when i first flashed a 32a rom it wouldnt do anything. I can flash g1 rom all day long though.
So what would be the latest radio for my device?
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Just stick with your 2.22.23.02 radio. Your device is a 32A but more of a 32B. Let me explain... the only thing that's a 32A is your memory. HOWEVER if you have a custom rom built for 32B MyTouch devices then it is not taking advantage of the 288mb of ram so it gets wasted. You need a lot of modification of the kernel to take full advantage of it. So technically... since you are not using all of your ram... you pretty much have a 32B device. It requires 32B radios... 32B kernels... 32B roms. So for the most part anything that works on a 32B device should work on your device. With some exception of some roms that have older kernels. In other words... no Hero roms with 1.5 firmware because your touchscreen and headphone jack may not work.
Just stick with your existing radio because it's a mild inconvenience to change radios anyway because you have a protected SPL and even if you did manage to flash a newer radio... odds are you won't notice any difference anyway.

thanks for the reply and for the explaination on the whole 32a 32b stuff good to know
thanks

Which Firmware to use.

Ok So I have a Mytouch 1.2 and a Fender and they have been rooted with the goldcard style.
I'm ready to change firmware but dont know which to get It showed I was 32b before the root now its 32A
Do I use a firmware for the original 32B from before root or use 32A for after root.
Sapphire PVT 32A Ship S-ON G
Hboot-1.33.0013 SAPP31000
CPLD-13
Radio-2.22.23.02
Oct 21 2009,22:33:27

eclivic said:
Ok So I have a Mytouch 1.2 and a Fender and they have been rooted with the goldcard style.
I'm ready to change firmware but dont know which to get It showed I was 32b before the root now its 32A
Do I use a firmware for the original 32B from before root or use 32A for after root.
Sapphire PVT 32A Ship S-ON G
Hboot-1.33.0013 SAPP31000
CPLD-13
Radio-2.22.23.02
Oct 21 2009,22:33:27
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You have a 32B

So I should use 32B firmware even after the root changed me to 32A, Correct?

eclivic said:
So I should use 32B firmware even after the root changed me to 32A, Correct?
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You never had a 32A and never will. Yes, 32B.
Let me straighten this out.
The phone is a 32A/32B hybrid. It's a 32B phone with twice the memory as normal 32B devices (equally as much as 32A) so it uses a 32A memory map. Which is why it says 32A. HOWEVER, it requires 32B radios, roms and kernels. Fair warning, unless you design a rom specifically for your device (and the only rom out there is stock) you will NEVER take advantage of that extra ram that comes with the phone because of the different memory map. It's gone, wasted. Because the kernel's that you use are built for devices that have less memory. Kinda like running Windows 7 x86 with 16gb of ram. It runs no different than if you had 4gb of ram. (Poor example but best I could think of.) So you will want to treat it as a 32B otherwise you can break your phone. I would dare to say that at least half of the problems in this forum for people with this device are because they break their phones trying to treat it as a 32A. Don't be one of them!

Thank you i am now informed. I am used to G1's i know there isnt alot different but rather be safe then sorry. Thanks again.

eclivic said:
Thank you i am now informed. I am used to G1's i know there isnt alot different but rather be safe then sorry. Thanks again.
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Sure not a problem. Refer to the G1 section for the majority of ROMs to use on your device.

[Q] What is the name of this thing anyway? LOL

Hey XDA... I'm a bit of a noob, but have been trolling for a great deal and learned a lot and tested many a ROM. One of the phones I've been working with has these specs:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
Oct 21 2009,,22:33:27
From my understanding this goes by many names... Which one(s) of those should I use to search for compatible ROMs? I am particularly trying to get ICS working for the WIFI tether aspect. the only ROM I have been able to get working is GB cyanogenmod for the HTC Magic. I'm trying to repurpose this phone so that it will connect to a bluetooth DUN and then share that connection over WIFI as a sort of BT to WIFI repeater so that I can get just a few more meters for my roommate to borrow my connection with. Any and all help is greatly appreciated. Thank you so much.
~XDA Forever!!!~

That device is the mytouch 3g with the 3.55mm headphone Jack. It runs roms made for the HTC dream/g1 and for the 32b sapphire/magic. Most of the roms for it are found in the g1 development section. Cm7 works on it reasonably well. The only really working ics rom for it is united ics, which has not been touched by its lead developer for almost a year (I've been busy)
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tvall said:
That device is the mytouch 3g with the 3.55mm headphone Jack. It runs roms made for the HTC dream/g1 and for the 32b sapphire/magic. Most of the roms for it are found in the g1 development section. Cm7 works on it reasonably well. The only really working ics rom for it is united ics, which has not been touched by its lead developer for almost a year (I've been busy)
Sent from my Evo V 4G using Tapatalk 2
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The OP's HBOOT says it's a 32a. Wouldn't he need a 32a ROM?

No, it does NOT mean that. His hboot says he has a 1.33 series spl, a 2.22 series radio, and a cpld of 13. This tells you that he needs to run a rom with an ebi0 kernel (and not a 2708+ one, that won't boot on cpld 13).
There are 3 main variants of the dream/sapphire. The 32b is what the g1 and original mytouch 3g are. They have 192mb ram total (some reserved for camera and radios and such, leaving you with almost 100mb left) run 1.33 series spls and 2.22 series hboot and use kernels build for such a config (ebi0). There is an updated radio and spl (2.22.28.25 or 2.22.27.08 radio and 1.33.0013 spl) that allow access to 15mb of additional ram (usually leaving roms with 109mb). Kernel devs labeled kernels built for this configuration 2708+.
Then there is the 32a. I've never owned a 32a device so this may have errors. It has 288mb ram, and can run a couple different radio combinations. It can run the same configuration as the 32b, at the cost of half your ram. The "old radio" setup consists of a 1.33 series spl and a 3.22 series radio. This runs ebi1 kernels. (The 32b can actually run this radio, but there are little benifits and doing so isn't very common. I've mostly seen people with a "Rogers dream" (it shipped with a 3.22 radio apparently) try to escape this setup. There then is the "new radio". This is a 6.35 radio and 1.76 spl. This is found on devices shipping with sense, and behaves more like an HTC hero than a magic. Flashing the 6.35 on a 32b device will cause a brick (and if I'm remembering correctly, the device didn't even respond to jtag).
And last, but not least, is the device in the op. It is a T-Mobile mytouch 3g 1.2. Is has 288mb ram, a headphone Jack (not present on any other model), reports cpld 13 is hboot, and strictly runs the 1.33.0013 spl with a 2.22 series radio. The update allowing 15mb additional ram for the 32b doesn't work here because the spl that allows that was our spl from the start. Flashing anything other than the 1.33.0013 (or the modded 1.33.0013d) spl from the 1.33 series will make half your ram vanish and your headphone jack not exist to the rom. This device also runs ebi0 kernels,.found in 32b roms.
For 32b and 32a old radio roms, installing the appropriate kernel is all that's needed to get it running on the other device. For roms that are built for the 6.35 radio, its very similar to porting from the HTC hero.
This device can be quite confusing if you know nothing of the variants.
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tvall said:
No, it does NOT mean that. His hboot says he has a 1.33 series spl, a 2.22 series radio, and a cpld of 13. This tells you that he needs to run a rom with an ebi0 kernel (and not a 2708+ one, that won't boot on cpld 13)...
And last, but not least, is the device in the op. It is a T-Mobile mytouch 3g 1.2. Is has 288mb ram, a headphone Jack (not present on any other model), reports cpld 13 is hboot, and strictly runs the 1.33.0013 spl with a 2.22 series radio. The update allowing 15mb additional ram for the 32b doesn't work here because the spl that allows that was our spl from the start. Flashing anything other than the 1.33.0013 (or the modded 1.33.0013d) spl from the 1.33 series will make half your ram vanish and your headphone jack not exist to the rom. This device also runs ebi0 kernels,.found in 32b roms.
For 32b and 32a old radio roms, installing the appropriate kernel is all that's needed to get it running on the other device. For roms that are built for the 6.35 radio, its very similar to porting from the HTC hero.
This device can be quite confusing if you know nothing of the variants.
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Thanks for the clarification. I saw 32A in the HBOOT output and jumped to the wrong conclusion.