S4 worth the price? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys!
I am planning to buy a HTC One or a S4. (Oh another of those comparisons)
Well, the One is sold at SGD 488 (USD 385) for the 32 GB version, while the S4 (GT-I9505) is sold at SGD 578 (USD 457) for the 16 GB version.
Is the S4 really worth the extra price and lesser storage space?
I only have 8gb SD cards around, I care for heavy gaming like MC4 and GTA VC and good ROMs. I also take pictures and videos quite often, and I DO care for a SUPERSMOOTH UI and GREAT BATTERY LIFE.
Which should I get? Thanks in advance.
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sonyxperiaplayer said:
Hey guys!
I am planning to buy a HTC One or a S4. (Oh another of those comparisons)
Well, the One is sold at SGD 488 (USD 385) for the 32 GB version, while the S4 (GT-I9505) is sold at SGD 578 (USD 457) for the 16 GB version.
Is the S4 really worth the extra price and lesser storage space?
I only have 8gb SD cards around, I care for heavy gaming like MC4 and GTA VC and good ROMs. I also take pictures and videos quite often, and I DO care for a SUPERSMOOTH UI and GREAT BATTERY LIFE.
Which should I get? Thanks in advance.
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I don't own the HTC One, but I just hate its ugly face with the 2 ugly speakers on the top and on the bottom. Even its build quality seems to be what some people call "metal Premium"(that always make me laugh), its performance and its uni body design just doesn't appeal me. However it seems that its screen and its camera are very good.

Battery wise you can always get a second battery and a dock. This way you'll always have a second fully charged battery with the Samsung.
With the HTC, you'll have to rely on the charge of a single battery and/or frequent chargings.

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Battery wise you can always get a second battery and a dock. This way you'll always have a second fully charged battery with the Samsung.
With the HTC, you'll have to rely on the charge of a single battery and/or frequent chargings.
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During intense gaming, do any of you get any lag at all? I know the S4 has a great GPU, just wanna see it in context.
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No no one pf them woth buying i suggest you buy LG Nexus 4 or waiting until Nexus 5 show up trust me the nexus family tree is the best phones ever ever
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NiceIceDice96 said:
No no one pf them woth buying i suggest you buy LG Nexus 4 or waiting until Nexus 5 show up trust me the nexus family tree is the best phones ever ever
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I understand that the Nexus is very cheap and affordable when bought from the Play store, but in my country Singapore, it is not that cheap as there is no Google Play services available here apart from the app market.
Thanks for the suggestion though..
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Maybe you're right but at all its the best

NiceIceDice96 said:
Maybe you're right but at all its the best
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I have had the Nexus 4 too and in smoothness and speed when opening apps and widgets it is much faster than the S4. But then the N4 doesn`t have a 7GB rom + features But i missed some very usefull features offered by Samsung that i like to use and after a while i found the Nexus 4 a bit boaring.So overall i would say that the S4 is not fully worth the price of 650 euro`s that for 369 euro`s the Nexus 4 is a very good phone and offers the latest updates by Google.

sonyxperiaplayer said:
During intense gaming, do any of you get any lag at all? I know the S4 has a great GPU, just wanna see it in context.
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I run all my games flawlessly, a little lag happens rarely sometime, but globaly, it runs everything perfectly. I have the i9500 octacore. I don't try the i9505 one. From all the review and test I saw, i9505 suffer from little lag using Air features and has less fps in games. I tried Zombiewood(gameloft) on i9505 and i9500, when there are a lot of zombies who appear, the i9505 become really laggy whereas the i9500 still run flawlessly.

Well I am quite satisfied with mine.. I must say that it is fast enough and even faster with custom roms and kernels...
Camera is pretty good... Not in the dark but then again does not matter much
Quality of video is great and the sound is okay..
I have had an HTC before and it was okay but so sadly built...
The screen here is great... I have no problems with mine
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DenmarkRootN00b said:
Well I am quite satisfied with mine.. I must say that it is fast enough and even faster with custom roms and kernels...
Camera is pretty good... Not in the dark but then again does not matter much
Quality of video is great and the sound is okay..
I have had an HTC before and it was okay but so sadly built...
The screen here is great... I have no problems with mine
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Which ROM and kernel are you recommending?
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Which ROM and kernel are you recommending?
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I'm currently using unofficial 10.1 cm , and I'm really happy with it

Do the games experience frame drops when many instances are on the screen like what madawcisrich said?
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sonyxperiaplayer said:
Which ROM and kernel are you recommending?
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Off topic.. I used Sony for years.. Love their design and UI... Which is why I have modded the stock message app so it has the smileys from Sony.. Just wanted to share as I saw your username
On topic... I use faux kernel and deodexed AME2 rom... There are custom roms but I loose my LTE no matter what I do, with the deodexed rom from djembey I can mod it as I want and I have pretty good battery life... All that can be black on my screen is black almost. As amoled don't use power on blacks
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Thanks. Can someone using the GT-I9505 post the answer to my last question? Thanks! 3D performance is one of the deciding factors of me buying the S4.
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Its OK. I have decided what I want.
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sonyxperiaplayer said:
Thanks. Can someone using the GT-I9505 post the answer to my last question? Thanks! 3D performance is one of the deciding factors of me buying the S4.
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3D performance.. i have not had any games that lag or anything...which one did you go for ?

I went for the S4, decided that I needed the 13 MP camera. Can we change the speed of animation to be faster (when opening apps, switchong between apps, etc) to be like the One's? I hate the speed of the S4, makes the phone look slow when it is not.
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1st day with the Note 2

This won't be a lengthy post in anyway just something to share my initial thoughts. This device is absolutely awesome! It's everything an android device should be and more. Packed with features, lightning fast, an amazing camera and the best screen I've ever had the pleasure to use. I have no complains at all. It goes to prove how far Android has come and as we all know it'll only get better.
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The best for long time :thumbup:
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I just can't get over the sheer speed of the thing. The speed it loads apps is just phenomenal
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I don't have one yet, but I am curious to see if it maintains speed after 50-100 apps are installed.
My 2+ year old Samsung Epic 4G has GREAT speed out of the box with no apps on it, then it starts to slow wayyyyyyyyyyyyy down once I load the apps.
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I don't have one yet, but I am curious to see if it maintains speed after 50-100 apps are installed.
My 2+ year old Samsung Epic 4G has GREAT speed out of the box with no apps on it, then it starts to slow wayyyyyyyyyyyyy down once I load the apps.
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We speak about 2 GB RAM. I had 188 apps. And runs as airflow. :thumbup:
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spfraggle said:
I just can't get over the sheer speed of the thing. The speed it loads apps is just phenomenal
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I agree...just sold my note 1 today...and so was playing with it last night....it was so slow compared to my new note 2
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The only phone that im struggling to find a fault with ..it has everything.
Agrred. One fault tho, ever so slightly to heavy
Awesome device. I couldn't be happier!
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lawtq said:
Agrred. One fault tho, ever so slightly to heavy
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Personally I don't it's any heavier than the original in fact it might even be lighter
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spfraggle said:
Personally I don't it's any heavier than the original in fact it might even be lighter
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yeah, but the Note 1 was by no means a light phone.
- Frank
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The only phone that im struggling to find a fault with ..it has everything.
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That weight makes it feel good in the hand.
ummm this makes me want to buy a note 2 even more!!
barondebxl said:
That weight makes it feel good in the hand.
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Yeah...I agree...make it harder to drop too....plus...it can help me to work on my wrist muscles...
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Milkman00 said:
I don't have one yet, but I am curious to see if it maintains speed after 50-100 apps are installed.
My 2+ year old Samsung Epic 4G has GREAT speed out of the box with no apps on it, then it starts to slow wayyyyyyyyyyyyy down once I load the apps.
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I have nearly 200 apps. No difference.
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I have my 64gig microsd swapped with internal memory and its filled with apps. I have few pics. No video and few music. Only 5gig space left on thr card.
And its still lightning fast. Im guessing its not just the cpu but that 1gig rxtra ram is to thank for as well

Anyone from ATT s3?

Hey guys, I have an att galaxy s3. I'm using an aokp ROM on it, and I really like it. I'd like a phone with a slightly smaller screen though, and for the price of the nexus 4 I think I need to get one. Is anybody else coming from an att s3 and what are some of your reasons?
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geoldr said:
Hey guys, I have an att galaxy s3. I'm using an aokp ROM on it, and I really like it. I'd like a phone with a slightly smaller screen though, and for the price of the nexus 4 I think I need to get one. Is anybody else coming from an att s3 and what are some of your reasons?
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You do know the screen size difference is 0.1"? I guess that qualifies as slightly smaller
thank youu
Yes .1 smaller and on screen keys make it smaller too.
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Going from a S3 to a Nexus 4? Same size phone, IPS screen. Don't know why you would bother unless it's going to be a beater.
From the looks of it the phone looks much more elegant than the s3. I'm tired of having my phone creak all the time. And official Google sounds really nice especially after using my nexus 7. Aokp Roms on s3 are nice but mine all have issues
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I'm coming from a T-Mobile S3. I don't think I will notice that much of a difference in screen size. The AOSP/AOKP roms were always a little buggy and had bad battery life on my S3 compared to the touchwiz roms. And since I hate TW and love vanilla Android, the Nexus 4 made a lot of sense.
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I'm coming from a T-Mobile S3. I don't think I will notice that much of a difference in screen size. The AOSP/AOKP roms were always a little buggy and had bad battery life on my S3 compared to the touchwiz roms. And since I hate TW and love vanilla Android, the Nexus 4 made a lot of sense.
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Exactly. I have bad battery life as well with aokp. Only way to fix it is by flashing kernels but I have to do that every update and its just getting way too crazy to have aokp + more than 2hr screen on time. And with aokp my phone is always so hot. Nexus 4 sounds pretty good.
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I am. My reasons why?
-Pure Google
-Quad-Core
-No more buggy ROMS
-Latest and greatest Updates
-More elegant in my taste
-More dev support
-More customization (easier bootloader to unlock, and as I said before, the dev support will be ahead of the game)
-WORLD PHONE. Going to be graduating this year.. If I travel for college or etc, my phone is always reliable.
I'm coming from a Sprint S3. Ideally, I think I'd like to try another S3 of the GSM variant. But I will probably be getting the new Nexus.
I'm seriously debating it myself. I love my nexus 7...my first Nexus device. I love my S3...just not sure what the real benefits would be. I love AOKP but putting that on the nexus, wouldnt that be defeating the purpose?
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Warrior1975 said:
I'm seriously debating it myself. I love my nexus 7...my first Nexus device. I love my S3...just not sure what the real benefits would be. I love AOKP but putting that on the nexus, wouldnt that be defeating the purpose?
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Basically, I am in the exact same situation as you.
I'm coming from my unlocked ATT s3 ass well. Reason? I love aosp.
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I'm pretty sure I'm going to stay with the s3...just because of the non removable battery. Maybe I wouldn't need to switch batteries but my battery life blows on my S3.
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Warrior1975 said:
I'm pretty sure I'm going to stay with the s3...just because of the non removable battery. Maybe I wouldn't need to switch batteries but my battery life blows on my S3.
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Same. Battery sucks on my S3. But I think that is due to bad LTE signal in my area.
Its so tempting. I love my Nexus 7...although that's different. I don't know. I will have to seriously sleep on this...for a few days. I love my S3...so if its not broke why fix it?
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Couldn't you guys just sell your S3 for roughly the same price as a Nexus 4? Local listings where I'm at seem to be in the $300 range. Of course you'd lose out on LTE, but hey.
Definitely could. Just not sure I want to yet.
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Anyone else notice the One is faster?

Running Paranoid Android and in playing with the One I have noticed it is generally smoother. Could this be the software?
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Joshua3109 said:
Running Paranoid Android and in playing with the One I have noticed it is generally smoother. Could this be the software?
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its the hardware, and maybe some proprietary bits in the software.
I thought with the s4 pro we were at the point we had more power than was needed to run our phones at top speed though. Was I wrong?
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Joshua3109 said:
I thought with the s4 pro we were at the point we had more power than was needed to run our phones at top speed though. Was I wrong?
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there are always optimizations that can make thing a little better. most of the optimizations(like dalvik) on nexus phones would be propritary. plus the cpu is a more recent revision(among other things).
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I thought with the s4 pro we were at the point we had more power than was needed to run our phones at top speed though. Was I wrong?
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Ya Android could be optimized more. **** the extra bells and whisles that come with the next version, give me a god damn smooth experience!! Seriously, Nexus 4 should be butter. BUTTER!!!
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Of course it's faster. It has a Snapdragon 600 processor. In other breaking news, water is wet, and the sky is blue.
jzero88 said:
Ya Android could be optimized more. **** the extra bells and whisles that come with the next version, give me a god damn smooth experience!! Seriously, Nexus 4 should be butter. BUTTER!!!
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I agree. Android should be optimised for the Nexus range ONLY, like Apple do with iOS. Only then will it ever be a perfectly smooth experience.
If other companies wanna put out 15 Android phones a year, then they should do their own optimisations to ensure it runs properly.
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I agree. Android should be optimised for the Nexus range ONLY, like Apple do with iOS. Only then will it ever be a perfectly smooth experience.
If other companies wanna put out 15 Android phones a year, then they should do their own optimisations to ensure it runs properly.
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They do do their own optimizations... they optimize their Android manufacturer skins (TouchWiz, HTC Sense, etc)
It may feel faster but that's only cos of the transitions HTC have added in, they have minimised many that are in stock android and sped up a few as well, thus overall giving the illusion that it runs faster :L
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Its probably the software HTC uses. Try the S4 Touch wiz launcher on the Nexus 4. Really smooth. Smoother than the stock one
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I thought with the s4 pro we were at the point we had more power than was needed to run our phones at top speed though. Was I wrong?
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That's bs. Any truthful Nexus 4 owner will tell you that there's still lag and slowdowns here and there. If Google had more ex-engineers from apple then we'd probably have better software *cough* camera.
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Ace42 said:
That's bs. Any truthful Nexus 4 owner will tell you that there's still lag and slowdowns here and there. If Google had more ex-engineers from apple then we'd probably have better software *cough* camera.
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i hear, rumors of course, that they are gonna focus(pardon the pun) on the camera on the next nexus.
The HTC One is a beautiful device. It's specs are amazing. I just wish it didn't have to cost over $500-$600. It would be sweeter if HTC makes the next Nexus smartphone.
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The HTC One is a beautiful device. It's specs are amazing. I just wish it didn't have to cost over $500-$600. It would be sweeter if HTC makes the next Nexus smartphone.
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I'd have to avoid it. I hate HTC. My phone LCD cable stops working and you know what they told me?
"You took the HTC dev unlock, it'll cost $250 to fix"
Yes because software breaks your display cable. And thats when I ran it over with my truck
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scream4cheese said:
The HTC One is a beautiful device. It's specs are amazing. I just wish it didn't have to cost over $500-$600. It would be sweeter if HTC makes the next Nexus smartphone.
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Well they had their turn with the first one... supposedly right now it's between Motorola and LG. It would be weird if it was LG again, from what I heard before Google liked to switch from manufacturer to manufacturer for promotional purposes.
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Well they had their turn with the first one... supposedly right now it's between Motorola and LG. It would be weird if it was LG again, from what I heard before Google liked to switch from manufacturer to manufacturer for promotional purposes.
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They kept Samsung for 2 cycles.
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They kept Samsung for 2 cycles.
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I think a Sony Xperia Nexus sounds pretty neat. But if Google makes a Motorola Nexus, it better be mind blowing.
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worth buying or waiting?

I'm coming from a galaxy s3 and I'm just fed up with the phone now. I keep getting drawn back to nexus since the Samsung Google nexus S was my first phone. I've heard rumors that the nexus would be coming in white reason I'm tempted on waiting is the white version is meant to add lte and other features for the same price am i correct or shal I just buy it now
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Just buy it now.
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so there won't be no New added features
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Wait. You're gonna get 4.2.2 soon and going by the leak that might add some things you may want. Or see what the S4/HTC One have to offer (I'm getting a One soon, it's amazing IMO).
The Nexus 4 is an awesome phone, though
the leaks out and it doesn't add much from the s4 the camera in particular and the leak is a branded leak. I'm fed up with the s3 heating up and having lags. you'd think a quad core phone would not have this issue I'd use this phone if it had better Rom support but that won't happen anytime soon, and rims kill stuff like plug in play and hdmi output etc
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Have you tried CM 10.1 at all? It's my ROM of choice on the Nexus 4 (except I've gone back to stock for now as I might be upgrading soon)
any Rom on the galaxy s3 has bugs Samsung won't release the documentation for the exynos processor so all roms all suffer from same bugs camera being the main one
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the leaks out and it doesn't add much from the s4 the camera in particular and the leak is a branded leak. I'm fed up with the s3 heating up and having lags. you'd think a quad core phone would not have this issue I'd use this phone if it had better Rom support but that won't happen anytime soon, and rims kill stuff like plug in play and hdmi output etc
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The N4 has a worse camera and heats up less easily. However, unlike the S3 it doesn't lag at all (I can't believe how poorly optimised TouchWiz is when I use my Dad's GS3).
yeah my phone heats up bad and lags out of no we're what I hate is that this is a quad core phone I'd take my nexus s over it
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Nigeldg said:
The N4 has a worse camera and heats up less easily. However, unlike the S3 it doesn't lag at all (I can't believe how poorly optimised TouchWiz is when I use my Dad's GS3).
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THIS.
OP, please hold your horses. Wait till the N5 comes out (November). You will be GREATLY dissapointed with N4's camera. For me, camera is one of the most important parts in a phone. However, I overlooked it this time and went with N4 as I wanted a phone which is Lag free. However, I regret my decision/priority whenever I click photos with N4. I would suggest you to please wait.
my phone value will drop I just hope the price isn't too bad I'm fed up with galaxy now
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A good upgrade ?

Hey guys is it worth to upggrade to the GS4 from the HOX for 230€ ?
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I think so the galaxy s4 has a lot of great features and worth the money
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Hey guys is it worth to upggrade to the GS4 from the HOX for 230€ ?
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but for you the HTC one might be better unless you were somehow dissapointed by HTC or Sense
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It's a good offer, it's pretty cheap (that's at least my opinion)
I upgraded from the HOX don't regret it for a second. First thing I noticed was battery life far far better. S4 is faster got a better screen louder. I personally prefer TW to sense. You wont regret the upgrade.
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Hey.. I upgraded from hox to gs4 and i think it was a great upgrade.. I do not regret it one second.. But i was kind of bored of htc sense for some reason so might be why haha i guess if you like htc sense (which i also do.. A great ui but like i said.. Was bored of it..) if you have the chance to test htc sense 5.. Do it and then you decide touchwiz is not very special either but i wanted all those fancy smart functions hehe
And just so i dont forget.. What gs4 are you thinking of?
GT-I9505 OR GT-I9500? I have I9505 snapdragon version which i think have better support on custom roms atleast what i have heard.. Migth be diffrent now i dont know
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Go with the HTC ONE, much better than the S4 at all aspects.. I had an S4 before and I switch to the ONE. Totally worth the change!!Trust me or see reviews, almost all the experts choose the One over the S4..
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Might be true but i guess thats kind of individual, What you are searching for in a phone and what you want the phone to be specs vice they are pretty much the same and micro sd card and removable battery was great for me but like i said thats individual and only you know what your searching for in a phone
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It's a good offer, it's pretty cheap (that's at least my opinion)
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Yeah im not disapointed with HTC i just hate this tegra sh**,i would go for One but they are over 500€ and i dont have that cind of money :thumbdown: and how about ROM development on the GS4, AOKP and CM because i hate sense and touchwiz altogetger ?
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doesnt the s4 cost around the same?
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Yeah im not disapointed with HTC i just hate this tegra sh**,i would go for One but they are over 500€ and i dont have that cind of money :thumbdown: and how about ROM development on the GS4, AOKP and CM because i hate sense and touchwiz altogetger ?
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I was used both in showroom, in my opinion, S4 was great with the price :good:, HTC One came down with high price.
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Yeah im not disapointed with HTC i just hate this tegra sh**,i would go for One but they are over 500€ and i dont have that cind of money :thumbdown: and how about ROM development on the GS4, AOKP and CM because i hate sense and touchwiz altogetger ?
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As far as I saw the GT-I9505 (Snapdragon version) has good developer support! It even has official CM (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Jfltexx_Info), I just won't be able to tell you about experience with it because after I flashed the 4.3 Leak I'm happy with it and didn't change , I can tell you that it runs amazingly anyway \m/. I'll just tell you one thing before! I think you should only buy if you're in urge! Because soon is November and that (probably) means new Nexus! Also your device is from the last year, so it's still a nice thing. If you really want to get a new phone now, S4 is good enough !

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