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So I have a 16GB N7. Am getting a 32GB N7 with 3g. Would it be possible to take a nandroid backup of my present N7 and move it over to the new N7?
Thanks in advance!
No. They are 2 completely different ROMs. You can backup all your apps with TB (Titanium Backup) and transfer that over. Never try to load a Nandroid t from one device to another unless it is the exact same model. Even then things can go wrong, but it is less likely to happen.
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I have a 16GB Nexus 7 that I'm about to pass on to a family member as I just bought a 32GB Nexus 7. I have a full back-up of the 16GB made with ROM Manager. Can I copy that back-up file onto my 32GB and then use it as a Restore or Recovery file? I'd love not to have to redo all the programs and configurations I have but I don't want to screw something up. If that won't work (or even if it will) is there another way to accomplish the same thing? Or should I just start from scratch on the 32GB?
Titanium backup is really good, and if you have the pro key you can batch restore.
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I've used Titanium Backup before and have seen its benefits. That would certainly be a time-saver compared to restoring everything from scratch but not, I don't think, a replacement for CLONING the entire O/S (or whatever it's called). Right now my 32GB Nexus 7 isn't even rooted, although I'm assuming I'll have to root it in order to have the level of control I'd need to do a full recovery. My central question is whether using the Recovery process on the 32GB to implement the installation that I have on my 16GB would work or whether it would brick my 32GB or something.
The only things I can think of involves rooting, so if you don't want to do that... Sorry I can't help
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You should be able to do a nandroid backup and restore the data to the new device. I've done that with my Mytouch 4G and Nexus One before, not sure if there is anything different with the N7. Worth a try.
Can you do a Nandroid backup on a device that doesn't have an actual SD card? The Nexus 7 has a portion (partition?) of it's internal memory that it designates as the SD card. If the Nandroid backup copies the entire internal memory of a device, wouldn't that mean that it was trying to copy the partition where its own backup file existed (meaning that the contents were changing as it was backing up)? Or would Nandroid ignore that partition? I'm willing to give it a shot, I'd just like to have the benefit of whatever experience exists about its feasibility. And -- I have NO hesitation about rooting the Nexus 7 32GB. I've rooted every Android device I've ever owned. Is there a preferred rooting method for the Nexus 7? I can't remember what I used to root my 16GB Nexus 7. Maybe SuperOneClick?
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Can you do a Nandroid backup on a device that doesn't have an actual SD card? The Nexus 7 has a portion (partition?) of it's internal memory that it designates as the SD card. If the Nandroid backup copies the entire internal memory of a device, wouldn't that mean that it was trying to copy the partition where its own backup file existed (meaning that the contents were changing as it was backing up)? Or would Nandroid ignore that partition? I'm willing to give it a shot, I'd just like to have the benefit of whatever experience exists about its feasibility. And -- I have NO hesitation about rooting the Nexus 7 32GB. I've rooted every Android device I've ever owned. Is there a preferred rooting method for the Nexus 7? I can't remember what I used to root my 16GB Nexus 7. Maybe SuperOneClick?
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nandroids do NOT copy internal memory. so you are good. you can attempt to backup/restore a nandroid from one device to another, but i wouldn't suggest it.
however, a Titanium backup of all your user apps with their data would probably be your best bet.
just make a backup of your user apps and data
copy the important files on the internal memory of the 16gb to your PC
unlock and root your 32gb, move the files over from the PC to the 32GB, download titanium backup, and restore the user apps with data. and it will be it.
OK, I can see the wisdom of using Titanium backup to move most of the programs and settings and NOT to attempt restoring a Nandroid backup from the 16GB onto the 32GB. One last question -- what is the preferred way to root a Nexus 7 now? I have read a TON of postings on the subject but don't have a clear picture of what method (if any) is generally considered to be the most reliable and flexible way to root these devices. I am able to use ADB to root manually but I don't fully understand what I'm doing, I just try to carefully follow the instructions. I would prefer an "automated" process if a preferred one exists.
Hey I'm having a similar situation and was wondering if using Nexus Root Toolkit to back up would work?
Yes, you can clone via Nandroid between different storage size devices.
I did it last Saturday from my old 16Gb to my new 32Gb.
Did a full Titanium Backup and a Nandroid backup with CWMR. I then copied all of internal storage (including the Nandroid) to a folder on my desktop machine (it took about half an hour to transfer about 9Gb, gotta love Asus I/O speeds).
One I got my new 32Gb, I turned it on, used Nexus 7 Toolkit to unlock it and install CWMR, then rebooted with it plugged into my PC (at the Select Language screen).
Then I copied all the files from my desktop back over (took another half hour) and once that was done, I rebooted into CWMR and did a restore and wiped cache/dalvik and battery stats.
From there I rebooted, let Dalvik rebuild itself, and I was back to my old setup, everything working, widgets and all. Storage was also correct, I had 21Gb free.
Ran Titanium Backup again, made sure all my apps were reattached to the market, and life was good. Google does see it as a new device, however, so you may need to de-authorize your old device in Google Play Music, other than that no worries.
You don't really need to have a Titanium Backup, Nandroid will do everything that needs to be done, I just liked having the safety net.
I'm having a lot of problems with Nexus 7 Toolkit. On my new 32GB Nexus 7 I've got USB debugging checked. I'm connected to my Windows 7 PC as "Media Device MTP" (my only other choices is Camera PTP). I can get to Fastboot no problem. When I start Nexus 7 Toolkit my device is recognized and a serial number is generated. I've unlocked my bootloader (during boot up the Google logo now shows an unlocked padlock). But when I try to get it to root it goes through several steps and several restarts until it generates the following error messages: "adbd cannot run as root in production builds", "error: protocol fault (no status)", then the daemon starts successfully and I get "failed to copy root\su to system/bin/su : read-only file system" and "failed to copy root\superuser.apk to system/app/superuser.apk : read-only file system", then finally two "unable to chmod" error messages about those two actions.
I assume that all of this stems from one problem but I can't figure out what it is. Help?
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I'm having a lot of problems with Nexus 7 Toolkit. On my new 32GB Nexus 7 I've got USB debugging checked. I'm connected to my Windows 7 PC as "Media Device MTP" (my only other choices is Camera PTP). I can get to Fastboot no problem. When I start Nexus 7 Toolkit my device is recognized and a serial number is generated. I've unlocked my bootloader (during boot up the Google logo now shows an unlocked padlock). But when I try to get it to root it goes through several steps and several restarts until it generates the following error messages: "adbd cannot run as root in production builds", "error: protocol fault (no status)", then the daemon starts successfully and I get "failed to copy root\su to system/bin/su : read-only file system" and "failed to copy root\superuser.apk to system/app/superuser.apk : read-only file system", then finally two "unable to chmod" error messages about those two actions.
I assume that all of this stems from one problem but I can't figure out what it is. Help?
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Which root option are you choosing in N7 Toolkit? Option 3 is your best bet, as it doesn't rely on ADB for the heavy lifting, as it slides the root access in via Recovery.
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OK, I can see the wisdom of using Titanium backup to move most of the programs and settings and NOT to attempt restoring a Nandroid backup from the 16GB onto the 32GB. One last question -- what is the preferred way to root a Nexus 7 now? I have read a TON of postings on the subject but don't have a clear picture of what method (if any) is generally considered to be the most reliable and flexible way to root these devices. I am able to use ADB to root manually but I don't fully understand what I'm doing, I just try to carefully follow the instructions. I would prefer an "automated" process if a preferred one exists.
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I am about to do the same thing from one Nexus 7 16Gb to the latest Nexus 7 32Gb and I will again use Wugfresh's Root Toolkit method. It is a simple system and one can unroot at the end of the process. I did that to get to KitKat.
Good day, I have a Nexus 7 16GB, I just got a 32GB and I want all data in my old one transferred to the new one. Can it be done without root? I'm on stock rom .Thanks in advance!
Brickoy said:
Good day, I have a Nexus 7 16GB, I just got a 32GB and I want all data in my old one transferred to the new one. Can it be done without root? I'm on stock rom .Thanks in advance!
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You can use Helium from the app store to backup up your apps and data. You don't need root for it to work.
Thanks for the tip, I'm using Helium now and bought the premium key immediately. Thanks!
Connect over USB. Copy some important files to your PC and turn sync on (settings, backup and restore, check both boxes). After 24h you can be sure your backup has been completed. Just turn sync on on your new tablet and the apps will be restored automatically. Via USB you can copy important files. No need to purchase apps...
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Just wondering where you guys keep your backups and roms. Usually I keep mine on usb drives to save storage on my device. But seeing as the nexus 4 doesn't support that I was wondering if anyone had better idea.
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Just wondering where you guys keep your backups and roms. Usually I keep mine on usb drives to save storage on my device. But seeing as the nexus 4 doesn't support that I was wondering if anyone had better idea.
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don't really keep them anywhere.. I just keep a copy in my phone and delete the older ones. I only do a nandroid when I know I might flash something that fks **** up and I only backup when I know everything's fine.
I only backup when I need to flash something as well.
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you should always keep one nandroid backup in your storage, it could save you hours of anguish later on. the more recent, the better.
Speaking of nandroids, I JUST had to restore one. Flashed PA and some mods that gave me a bootloop. Luckily it was only 2 days old.
I keep my backups on my computer. I have a Mac so with Android File Transfer it's easy to copy onto my computer or back onto my phone. Easy as pie.
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None. I prefer just keeping a latest titanium backup and I'm fine with starting from scratch. Only takes me five minutes max
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I ALWAYS keep a bare minimum system backup just in case anything goes wrong. I tend to back up dat once a week, and especially before I flash anything. It's a good habit to implement, trust me lol
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I always keep one nandroid backup on my pc.
Titanium backup is never 100%, especially on system stuff....
I have lots on my PCs 2nd hard drive along with lots of android stuff.
I always keep at least 1 on my phone.
I keep my favourite ( stock, slimbean and mokee ) zipped and uploaded onto dropbox.
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Alaris said:
Usually I keep mine on usb drives to save storage on my device. But seeing as the nexus 4 doesn't support that I was wondering if anyone had better idea.
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I guess I am missing something. What is so hard about keeping your backups on a USB drive? I do a Titanium full backup and a TWRP full backup. I then copy and paste the backups via Windows to my USB drive. Finally I delete them from my phone to save space.
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I guess I am missing something. What is so hard about keeping your backups on a USB drive? I do a Titanium full backup and a TWRP full backup. I then copy and paste the backups via Windows to my USB drive. Finally I delete them from my phone to save space.
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Transferring back a nandroid when you only have fast boot and recovery is... Annoying.
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Transferring back a nandroid when you only have fast boot and recovery is... Annoying.
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I see. Sorry, my misunderstanding of the topic. I only keep the backups for disaster recovery so I don't lose all my settings and app installs; I never had to use them. Also, I never did a nandroid backup.
I've had a few instances where a backup saved me from hours of re-flashing, re-installing apps and having to start from scratch. I always have 2 backups on my sd card, and copies of those backups on my computer, and another set on a Verbatim usb flash drive.
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I've had a few instances where a backup saved me from hours of re-flashing, re-installing apps and having to start from scratch. I always have 2 backups on my sd card, and copies of those backups on my computer, and another set on a Verbatim usb flash drive.
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I keep one backup only, that too on my PC
You have too many backups!! (For me at least )
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I keep one backup only, that too on my PC
You have too many backups!! (For me at least )
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I guess I like being overly cautious.
I alwayd do Nandroid once before each clean flash , occasionally before dirty flash.
I only have EFS , contacts and maybe some little more important things backed up into PC , that's it
I only kept two EFS backup (in case of) and that's all about data.
Everytime I make a fresh install of the required applications I want to restart with. (my Playstore account)
This way no risk to worry about something going wrongly.
I think I've got almost every backup I've done on my computer from all 3 smart phones I've had.
HTC legend
HTC desire hd
Galaxy S4
Possibly at least 10 backups each ?
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I am wondering if I can safely move the >2GB nandroid backup out of my Nexus 4 (to PC, external drive...). In case things get nasty and the phone ends up bricked or something... will I be able to move the files back to the phone to restore them?
Thanks in advance.