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Hey everyone, I am glad NAND is finally released (for those that have been waiting for it), but I'm wondering if theres anyone (yes I know the pros of having NAND Android) that prefers being able to dual boot? I'm starting to feel that work will halt on the SD/RAM builds. Any reassurance? Thanks guys.
I'd like to keep SD builds as well.
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Naw I think a lot of us non-TMOUS HD2 owners will still use SD builds. Reason being, we just don't have a lot of storage space, which many of us need. Unless Devs perform the ext4 partition thingie onto or sd card, for us to expand storage, storage will still be small for non-TMOUS HD2 NAND users i guess.
Yes, RAM builds are the biggest source of competition for NAND - however, I haven't filled up my storage yet with my apps and still have about 90/100MB left of phone storage.
What about installing apps to SD card???
Signal strength is much better on NAND though for me.
Can you report how many %of the.time without signal with sd and %with nand? I believe you but I didnt test nand roughly because of the memory limitation. But I guess thats gone now
I hope the response will be "No". I use the PSX Emulator (FPSece) on WinMo so I prefer switch on Andoid or on WinMo.
Nand is obviously the next stage of evolution in rom development towards running Android natively on our hd2's.
sd card builds have the great advantage of being swapped easily, especially with multiple sd cards (I have two, one stable daily use which is fully configured and one experimental)
Moreover the risk of bricking your previous device is rather low from sd..
I am not very clear about the difficulty of transferring a build from an sd build to nand and vice versa, but if there could be a migration tutorial, as a sticky we could have both, latest builds in nand and the choice of running them from sd..
Is this technically possible? Which factors could inhibit easy migration?
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I thought originally MAGLDR was supposed to be able to multiboot Android and WinMo (probably a non-sense version of each due to space)?
I hope MADLR can do the following soon:
- Load SD\RAM\NAND Android from custom folders on the fly
- Allow backup\restore of the data store
- Load WMP 6.5 and maybe even 7
I think this will keep the flexibility of multiple build loads alive which will benefit the user and the devs. I know some of this should be coming but it would be nice to get all of our belated Christmas wishes.
not sure but,,
im not sure but the aMAGLDR menu does also have the option to boot from SD-card, i havent tried it yet though..
also one thing i still want is the ability to boot my ubuntu-sd-card build, now i cant use haret.exe im not sure how to go about the dual booting thing ??
much stuff to try out
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ok, just put the contents of an old sd card build directly onto the root of an sd card (ie, without the 'android' folder) booted phone holing power key until magldr menu shows, then select boot AD from SD and it boots just like the old sd card with haret method, -
so far i see it finds zimage and initrd.gz, then i get the boot screen, .... looks like dual booting is still an option even if it may need a bit of tweaking.. i guess its just the startup.txt that needs to be read for it to boot properly ,
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I think in the original NAND release thread, Cotulla explains that a SD build (haret.exe) and a NAND build are very different, to use the SD boot option in MAGLDR, you need to put the content of a NAND build on the SD card, somehow...
edit: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10202441#post10202441
I would like it if they could implement a better DFT installer, which had options such as
• Install to NAND
• Install to SD
• Customise partitions
• Multiboot
Instead of just being able to install to NAND. This way, we can have a single installer / release for both methods (and this would make it easier for chefs )
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Can you report how many %of the.time without signal with sd and %with nand? I believe you but I didnt test nand roughly because of the memory limitation. But I guess thats gone now
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I think it's impossible to say for how long - but on Darkstone 1.5 RAM, and MDJ's HD4.6 I would find the signal to have disappeared at least once a day up to three times - requiring a reboot of the phone - airplane mode did not seem to work.
After reboot signal would return to full strength in the same exact spot.
Problem is the signal would be lost in a pocket or on my desk and you simply would not notice it until you went to use the device - in fact the first time I realised it was happening was because I was getting far fewer emails/smses and calls and the phone was utterly quiet - very peculiar for the holiday season and party planning.
I haven't as yet downloaded a NAND build although i may well do that this evening, however having downloading many different builds for Android over the last few months i can safely say Dark Stone's SUPERAM blows everything out of the water in terms of speed it really is very fast which IMO is very important.
With the recent developments of Android and WP7 for the HD2, I really can't decide between the two. Will there be an option of dual boot like with WM6.5? I'd love to have this option.
I would definitely love for this to happen, although WP7 is in the lead for me now, booting android once in a while wont be so bad.
i think itz possible in tmobile usa HD2 with itz 1gb ROM ... two partitions using two NAND OS... dual NAND..
I'm very interested in this option. Hopefully this will be available soon.
I hoppe we find a solution for Leo from EU (512Mo).
Like WIN6.5 + Android on SD ?
My favorite way : Android in NAND, WP7 on SD !!
think we should be able to still boot android off sd with magldr... we just need to switch to a different sd card that wasn't used with wp7. I hope its possible. will be trying it soon.
i would love to do this, i have a 124 leo.
F*ck the 512!
Android+WP7 would be sweeeet for 1024!
http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-25910-1-1.html
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http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-25910-1-1.html
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im still running an old build of sd, so is it possible to upgrade radio, magldr, win7 nand and keep android on sd?
im not really wanting to give up android just yet, but i do admit i want to see what win7 is like
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http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-25910-1-1.html
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based by the link above (with google translate), its possible to dual boot with wp7 nand and android sd
Is it possible to back up a android nand rom, so i don't need to download al apps again and set them all up again?
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Is it possible to back up a android nand rom, so i don't need to download al apps again and set them all up again?
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SEARCH!!!
But since your lazy, yes there is. Its called Titanium backup and it saves all your apps and settings into a file. When you install a new build just recover that file from within Titanium backup and all your apps and stuff will be there.
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http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-25910-1-1.html
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So...does anyone here speak enough Chinese to make more sense of this than Google Translate does? I think some sort of modification needs to be made to init.rc. Possibly system.img too. It's also not clear to me if a NAND or SD ROM is meant to be used. There are some links which I'm trying to make sense of...
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So...does anyone here speak enough Chinese to make more sense of this than Google Translate does? I think some sort of modification needs to be made to init.rc. Possibly system.img too. It's also not clear to me if a NAND or SD ROM is meant to be used. There are some links which I'm trying to make sense of...
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Im unsure on how to do this also, if anybody fancys typing it into something we could follow it would be great!
Im in work today and my phone is fully charged ready for win7/android combo
How would you boot android from nand if you can't access the file system of the SD card?
Its an unknown format and magldr surely won't be able to boot anything from it.
Maybe it works the other way round, though?
Or you could use your phone7 without sd card...
hey that may even work.
Limited storage for phone7 - who cares?
domenukk said:
Or you could use your phone7 without sd card...
hey that may even work.
Limited storage for phone7 - who cares?
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That's what I would like to be able to do. WP7 is nice to play with at this stage but I still plan to use Android most of the time.
Ali_Shaikh said:
SEARCH!!!
But since your lazy, yes there is. Its called Titanium backup and it saves all your apps and settings into a file. When you install a new build just recover that file from within Titanium backup and all your apps and stuff will be there.
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Thanks alot, i wasn't able to find it. Google couldn't help me.
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How would you boot android from nand if you can't access the file system of the SD card?
Its an unknown format and magldr surely won't be able to boot anything from it.
Maybe it works the other way round, though?
Or you could use your phone7 without sd card...
hey that may even work.
Limited storage for phone7 - who cares?
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Half of the sdcard is formatted in FAT32. The other in WP7 system file.
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Here's that thread translated:
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I have already declared in the title dual boot, or have friends do not understand the altar. After the following modifications, select the boot wph start guide wp7, select the boot ad sd sd boot on Android , Android WP7 and dual-boot, the boot options can, without disturbing each other. Start wp7 will not interfere with sd card, wp7 sd card did not even know exist, the question is wp7 little space available, but at least can be used.
Expect experts to address the first time in wp7 can choose to start the occupation of the sd card space, do not fully occupied enough.
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Thank DFT ! Because SD Android running well, I have not brush Nand Android, waiting for the arrival of WP7.
Today, DFT has released long-awaited HD2 users WP7, I finally started to brush. Brush some of the altar before the access to the Friends of the experience, that really exclusive WP7 SD card, which can later how to run Android.
I have access to the information carefully and found that the SD card as WP7 only system expansion space, the first start of the SD card partition to use. Therefore, I decided to removed the SD card so reserved for Android use.
PC: Windows 7
HD2: SHPL 2.08
SD: Sandisk 8G c4 (from the phone in the show)
The following is the process of Brush:
1. Three-color screen brush Magldr 112 (all normal, NES Set )
2.Magldr start to select the USB Flasher, PC-side DWI (all normal)
3. Phone reboots directly into the WP7, simple to use, after all the normal (free space 98M)
4. Handset off
5. Insert SD card
6. boot holding down the hold button, enter the Magldr menu
7. Set always shows the menu (to decide, because I want to dual-boot often, so set the boot menu)
8. Set the boot path SD card Android
9. Guide the SD Android, the show finished HTC interface (kernel, Init after) boot into Andoird animation between the phone restart
Episode: I stupid out, SD card, there are a lot of information not backed up, hands and no card reader, can not enter the Andoird, the backup can not, WP7, when not installed into the SD card, do not expect him to. Fortunately, there are menu items that Magldr USB storage (my first use of Magldr), select this option, the memory card sorting.Remove the SD card all the Android-generated directory (the directory is generated Android, do not also delete a Android), re-boot, the first screen to enter Andoird die.
10. Online access to information, Magldr guide SD card Android, need to modify inti.rc.
11. Will system.img (I use the DHD Android) copied to the Linux modified.
In the service ril-daemon / system / bin / rild-l / system / lib / libhtc_ril_wrapper.so append --d / dev/smd0 nand parameters, to support
Nand boot.
12. Returns Android phone, after a successful boot.
Nagging: WP7 egg really hurt, WIFI without any settings, I have been using a static IP, can not be set.
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He's dual booting, but none of the SD card space is for WP7. It only has around 100megs left. WP7 automatically RAID0's the whole card with internal memory for space. That's why removing the card screws up WP7 and a hard reset has to be done. I think what would be ideal is if the card could be split into 8gb for WP7 and 8GB for Android, but part of the problem is you can't call HARET.exe or CLRCAD.exe because there is no OS to understand those executables.
When I try to turn my phone on, it will not get passed the ROM loading screen (Energy blue logo). This is because the internal memory is full.
I really need to get into the file system to delete a file (and fix the problem) or copy certain stuff out - it has pictures of my fiance on to say the least, and I really want them.
But, as Windows won't boot I can't do this in the traditional way. Obviously I can still get into bootloader - so is there a way I can access the file system? A bit of software I can run on my laptop that can somehow access the file system through bootloader mode? All I need to do is identify a c.1mb file and delete it...
The background to all this is the phone was displaying messages about 'memory nearly full' - but it had done this before and just stopped, so I left it again. Except, at some point signal reception dropped and stayed at 0. So I rebooted, and got stuck at the loading screen - which is where we've been for the last few days now.
I really hope someone can help. If you can, I'll buy you a few beers.
Thanks,
David
Phone was running WM6.5 with HSPL (3 I'm fairly sure)
How in the hell did you manage to fill your internal memory up, why not just use a SD card for storage?
If you can get into bootloader, cant you simply connect it via activesync/wmdm and then just copy what you need and delete?
I think I took too many photos! Though I'm not exactly sure tbh... Some bug in the ROM kept changing the save dir from SD card to internal, but I did keep an eye on the space, perhaps just a few too many photos in one night...
Anyway ActiveSync isn't working (for me at least) in bootloader mode - don't I need to have Windows Mobile loaded?
Should activesync work in bootloader mode?
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If you can get into bootloader, cant you simply connect it via activesync/wmdm and then just copy what you need and delete?
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doesnt work. you cant access the live file system from anywhere except within running wm.
You can dump off the rom partition into .raw files, but when you rebuilt it (in a ktchen) you would still only end up with the original rom as it was out of the box, no user data.
@OP, you could possibly go into bootloader, confirm 2.08.hspl, flash magldr, and then boot from an sd android, though i suspect you still wouldn't see the winmo files. (I assume there are now android builds that can be booted to and run from sd without the need for haret/winmo? i'm a nand man meself so unsure. )
It's what i'd try if it really was that critical, otherwise I'd weep for a little while, kick myself and write 'backup' post-its all over my office, then hard reset and move on.
Thanks for the advice - I will definitely try your suggestion before 'moving on', losing a whole bunch of contacts will also be a real pain.
Do you know of any threads/links explaining magldr and how it will help?
Is there no other way to access any part of the internal memory and just delete 1 file?
I found out that magldr has 2 commands:
"Boot WPH" - boots WPH from nand. WPH must be flashed before. NOT AVAILABLE now.
"USB Flasher" - use this item to flash Android or WPH.
Problem is the first one isn't yet available - maybe he would give me a beta though.
I assume WPH is Windows Phone. So if I had a version with 'Boot WPH' command working,
a) Could I flash Windows Phone into the nand (whatever that is)?
b) Once in booted & loaded WP7, could I view the WM6.5 files on the internal RAM?
I think I agree it is unlikely the files would be viewable within Android - surely it must use a different file system. Does WM use FAT32 for the internal memory?
Thanks
Bear in mind WP7 and winmo are two very different OSes.
WP7 has been out btw.
Once you flash the device, with MAGLDR, android or WP7, the internal storage is wiped so it makes no sense to flash it if you still want what is in it.
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I found out that magldr has 2 commands:
"Boot WPH" - boots WPH from nand. WPH must be flashed before. NOT AVAILABLE now.
"USB Flasher" - use this item to flash Android or WPH.
Problem is the first one isn't yet available - maybe he would give me a beta though.
I assume WPH is Windows Phone. So if I had a version with 'Boot WPH' command working,
a) Could I flash Windows Phone into the nand (whatever that is)?
b) Once in booted & loaded WP7, could I view the WM6.5 files on the internal RAM?
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any type of flashing (nandroid, wp7 or wm) will destroy whats on there already, thus defeating the object.
There are more than two options in magldr, one of which is 'boot sd ad' for boot sd card android.
I think I agree it is unlikely the files would be viewable within Android - surely it must use a different file system. Does WM use FAT32 for the internal memory?
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its probably not an issue of the file system type, android (linux) can access fat partitions no problem. Its probably more to do with whether the sd builds can mount the internal rom or not.
Im no linux head at all, still fumbling in the dark though, so i could be wrong.
Thread update.
I am now working on providing tutorials for the following.
One card method - I am looking to improve this if I can.
Two card method - This is for micro SD cards over 8gb. There seems to be issues when using 16gb card with the one card method so I am now extensively looking into this to provide tutorial to make larger Android partitions than WP7 if you wanted (As WP7 takes the largest partition with the one card method)
Android SD Magldr Builds - More support and more intuitive tutorials for setting up all known SD Magldr Builds.
I am also looking into alternative ways to the above. I have lots of ideas and theories to improve speed, functionality, setup and configuring you PC/Laptop for convenience to performing the 2 card method, not just for now but for when you do this again in the future. For example, you may wish to install the latest WP7 ROM. The tools are already included in Windows operating systems later than XP. I am now experimenting this and so far, it looks good.
If there are any requests on what else I should provide support or tutorials for, the please feel free to leave you comments either by private message or through this thread.
Please be patient with me as I am trying out the above to make it as clear and hassle free as possible. I have learned a lot from Xda and this is my way of giving back and helping others.
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In this thread I have put together a tutorial on how to dual boot WP7 and Android using the one card method. To use Android, the build must be one that has been adapted to work via Magldr. Builds which has been kindly adapted by zarathustrax are on Post 2 so please show your thanks to him for taking time to convert them for us to use.
This tutorial presumes you already know your way around Magldr and know what buttons to press to select etc. If you need any help then let me know. I will help the best I can but cant always promise to be online. The tutorial recommends you use a SD card reader instead of Mass Storage in Magldr as Mass Storage is not always reliable.
1/ Download a WP7 and Android Build (Maglrd Build) you want to use.
2/ Run DWI.exe to install WP7 to your phone.
3/ Go through the setup and once it tells you that you have a new SMS which is welcoming you to WP7 go to Settings - About - Reset Your Phone and once phone restarts hold power to enter into Magldr.
4/ Remove SD card and insert it into the computer.
5/ I used Minitools Partition Wizard which you can get HERE, the Home version is free. Start the program and you will see two partitions on your SD card. Right click and delete the largest partition, this will leave you with Unallocated partition.
6/ Now right click the Unallocated partition and select Create. Leave 'Create As' as Logical and 'File System' as Unformatted. Under 'Size and Location', slide your Unallocated space to the right to roughly half the size of your SD card so the blank grey area is on the left. Click OK.
7/ Now click on Apply (The tick) and when it comes up saying Successful (This may take a while), remove your SD card and put it back into your phone and shut down Partition Manager.
8/ Boot up WP7 and go through the setup again. Once the message beeps again to say welcome to WP7, go to Settings - About and look at the 'Total Storage' and 'Available Storage'. These values should now be roughly the same.
9/ Hold Power button to restart and hold Power to enter into Magldr. Remove SD card and put it back in your card reader. Open Partition Wizard again, right click on the 200MB Other partition and select Delete. Right click on the new Unallocated partition and select Create. The File System should be Fat32 and set as Primary. Click Ok and Apply (The tick).
10/ When all the changes has been applied click OK and right click on the Other partition and select Modify and then Set Partition As Primary. This is important to run Android as well as WP7. If Partition were still Logical then once Android Build was loaded it would not recognise anything off your memory card . Put the SD card back into your phone and boot WP7 and exit Partition Manager.
11/ In WP7, go to Settings - About and double check the Total Storage and Available Storage to see if they are the same as before, they should be except the one should now be 200mb larger.
12/ Power off and insert SD card back into your card reader.
13/ This time start Computer or My Computer depending what version of Windows you are running. Move the Android Magldr folder to your SD card and read the instructions to set boot settings in Magldr. This time I will Boot MarkinXHDExtraClean Magldr Build but DL Desire Magldr build worked for me just as good as Nand. You can also use one of the builds in Post 2.
14/ Once Android folder has been copied, remove the SD card and put it back into your phone. When in Magldr, press the volume buttons up and down until you get to Services - BootSettings - AD SD Dir. For MarkinuXHDExtraClean Build the zImage and initrd.gz are on the main directory of the SD card so select <->. Always read the chefs installation instructions.
15/ You should now be in the main Magldr menu. Press vol buttons and select Boot AD SD.
Congratulations.......you know have WP7 and Android dual booting on your device. If this tutorial helped you, then please hit the Thanks button.
I'm beginning to turn this post into a collection of the builds that I've edited to work with magldr to dualboot with wp7. I am keeping these builds in my dropbox for quick and easy download... just right click the download link and select "save link as". I am just including the entire build for most of these for convenience, because some of the builds needed the init.rc file edited after the build was booted up once, as there were updates and files that get installed on first boot and the init.rc file was changed back to normal... so all the builds here have any updates or files in a root folder already installed, so they are all ready to go... just unrar and copy build folder to root of sd card, and be sure to tell magldr which folder to boot android from. Most builds include a new 1gb data.img or they create one on first boot, in which case it may take 5-10min.
All credit for the builds go to the chefs of each build... all I did was modify the init.rc file so it could be successfully booted with magldr. If any chef does not want me posting a download link of your build here, and would prefer I just post the edited files or not post anything about your build at all, please pm me and I will remove the link immediately. I am not trying to take credit for any of these builds... I am just trying to make it easier for people to install and run.
So, here's the builds:
JDMS- Edited build: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10979883/JDMS.rar Build thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782301
HD2One 3.6- Edited build: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10979883/HD2ONE.rar Build thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885933
PhireMod SkinnyEvo 2.1 Edited build: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10979883/phiremod_SkinnyEvo_v2.1MAGLDR_Edited.rar Build thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791835
Cedesmith's Desire HD2 Edited build: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10979883/Cedesmith DesireHD2 Magldr.rar Build thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857261
EVO Carbon Remix 0.6 Edited build: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10979883/Motoman234_EVO_Carbon_Remix_V0.6MAGLDR.rar Build thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839410
EVO Black&Blue Remix v0.4a Edited build: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10979883/Motoman234_Evo_Black&Blue_V0.4aMAGLDR.rar Build thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847631
Darkstone SuperRam Build and Sense RAM build Edited by LeTama This is not edited by me, but by Letama. I am putting links here for easy download for convenience and so all the edited builds can be collected in this one post. These builds will take a couple reboots sometimes before they fully boot up, but once you get them fully booted and going, they should boot up everytime afterwards. DS SuperRAM 1.5: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10979883/DSsuperramMAGLDR.zip DS SuperRam SENSE 0.1: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10979883/darkstone_ram_sense_magldr_sd.zip
Remember, to download, just right click link and select save link as.
I have more edited, and will be adding more to this post as I get time to organize the post and builds and make space in my dropbox. If you have requests on what builds I should add next, or have any questions, feel free to pm me. I have gotten most builds I have tried working well booting from SD with MAGLDR. ENJOY!
ALSO.... I've had a few problems recently with my computer corrupting some of my edited rootfs.img's... I think all of the one's listed so far are ok, but if anyone has a problem with any of them running, please pm me and let me know so I can fix it. I'm re-editing some more builds soon, so I will add the rest of the builds I've got running to this post soon.
Very nice tutorial and easy to follow. I had problems before when I tried it and almost gave up.
Thanks
I used the original posted guide to get mine working, albeit I struggled initially due to not reading it properly. If your new guide helps more persons to get WP7 and Android dual booting then that is great BTW I am using this CM7 Gingerbread build on my android partition and it works great, just need to follow the additional instructions in the install folder for getting it to boot via MAGLDR http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898831
aenedor said:
I used the original posted guide to get mine working, albeit I struggled initially due to not reading it properly. If your new guide helps more persons to get WP7 and Android dual booting then that is great BTW I am using this CM7 Gingerbread build on my android partition and it works great, just need to follow the additional instructions in the install folder for getting it to boot via MAGLDR http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898831
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Thanks for your feedback and I have to agree that with the original tutorial, I did struggle with it myself. Also it shows a few ways to do it. The one is a very long process copying one partition to another which dont apply for most people.
I posted this to try and make it clearer and easier to follow. I also focused on using only application for partition management where the original told you to use two.
Thanks for letting us know about the CM7 Gingerbread build. Most builds can be modified in a Linux Distro where just editing one line will make the SD build boot in Magldr.
Thanks so much for the guide and the Android Rom recommendation.
I got a question...
I got Android successfully booted, however under Android environment, it says no SD card is present. I'm using the DL Desire Magldr build.
Do I need to make another partition???
Any help is appreciated
Thanks!
out of curiousity,
Can the both of them share the same set of media files? or do you need two sets of it, one for the android partition, one for the WP7 partition.
Jackuuuuu said:
Thanks so much for the guide and the Android Rom recommendation.
I got a question...
I got Android successfully booted, however under Android environment, it says no SD card is present. I'm using the DL Desire Magldr build.
Do I need to make another partition???
Any help is appreciated
Thanks!
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You forgot to change the wp7 partition from logical to primary. That will solve that.
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out of curiousity,
Can the both of them share the same set of media files? or do you need two sets of it, one for the android partition, one for the WP7 partition.
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No, they can't share files. WP7 only reads it's partition and android only reads it's partition.
That's why I like to use dropbox with both of them. I can keep music or files in my dropbox and access them easily from both OS's. There's several dropbox apps for both wp7 and android. It also makes it easy to transfer files to my phone without having to hook it up to the computer or take the card out or deal with zune. Use my referral link below in my signature to get an extra 250mb added to the initial 2gb you get for free when you sign up and install the dropbox app to a computer.
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You forgot to change the wp7 partition from logical to primary. That will solve that.
No, they can't share files. WP7 only reads it's partition and android only reads it's partition.
That's why I like to use dropbox with both of them. I can keep music or files in my dropbox and access them easily from both OS's. There's several dropbox apps for both wp7 and android. It also makes it easy to transfer files to my phone without having to hook it up to the computer or take the card out or deal with zune. Use my referral link below in my signature to get an extra 250mb added to the initial 2gb you get for free when you sign up and install the dropbox app to a computer.
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Thanks for taking time to answer the questions in my thread. I normally would have been around to answer them myself except I am doing a very long and painful task of backing up over 150gb off my hard drive before I restore my notebook to factory settings.
You answered them beautifully lol
Jackuuuuu said:
Thanks so much for the guide and the Android Rom recommendation.
I got a question...
I got Android successfully booted, however under Android environment, it says no SD card is present. I'm using the DL Desire Magldr build.
Do I need to make another partition???
Any help is appreciated
Thanks!
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The answer to the question and the how to is in the tutorial above. I have copied it for you for your convenience.
Make sure you have switched off your phone because you will loose info if you just extract the SD card in WP7, insert SD card into a card reader on your PC. In Partition Manager.....
'Right click on the Other partition and select Modify and then Set Partition As Primary. This is important to run Android as well as WP7. If Partition were still Logical then once Android Build was loaded it would not recognise anything off your memory card.'
Thank you I'll be trying it soon
AndHD2 said:
Thanks for taking time to answer the questions in my thread. I normally would have been around to answer them myself except I am doing a very long and painful task of backing up over 150gb off my hard drive before I restore my notebook to factory settings.
You answered them beautifully lol
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No problem... I was very active in the other dualboot thread, too. You did a good job writing this tutorial up, so hopefully there won't be too many people confused, but I'll be around to help answer peoples questions, too. I figure once a thread is public, it's up to everyone who knows to help everyone out who's having problems... that's what this community is about... plus the more people that get involved in problem solving, the more we find easier and better ways of doing things. It was actually hyellow and me that figured out that you need to change the partition from logical to primary when I was having the problem of not being able to mount the card in android. It was fun watching and helping the method that you have posted evolve over several days and get easier and quicker to do.
Also, I was thinking that I might collect all my edited SD builds (I've got almost every build working) in to my dropbox and post the links to them in the second post to make it easier for people following this tutorial to grab a build that's already edited to work with magldr. What do you think?
htc hd2 overheats when dual boots
I have dual booted my HD2 using an 8 GB and 16 GB SD card. I got everything up and running and the bottom one third of the HD2 gets hot and freezes or reboots every time . When I placed one rom on the device, the device runs normally. Can anyone advise what might be the problem and the solution.
Randy Hoover said:
I have dual booted my HD2 using an 8 GB and 16 GB SD card. I got everything up and running and the bottom one third of the HD2 gets hot and freezes or reboots every time . When I placed one rom on the device, the device runs normally. Can anyone advise what might be the problem and the solution.
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Can you provide a bit more clarity to your problem.
Does this happen with both the 8gb and 16gb cards? Also what build are you using when your phone gets hot and restarts or freezes?
I find it strange that it is fine when you are using either Android or WP7 without dual boot as you are using only one build at a time when dual booting. You are only gaining access to different partitions on your card, pretty much the same as you would if you have an EXT2/3/4 partition for data saving in Android. Do you still have the same problem if you partition you SD card for a EXT2/3/4 for data saving?
From what you have said the only possible reason is somehow your phone might have a problem dealing with partitions because in theory dual booting runs either one or another and shouldnt be different if you were using only Android or WP7.
Using Minitool's Partition Manager, you might also want to try formatting the Fat32 partition by right clicking on Fat32 partition, click on Format and choosing the cluster size to 32. Save these changes and try again.
The solution could be setting up Android to work properly. In DL Desire's build, there are quite a few options as to how you save your data. You have the save to Data.Img file which must be placed inside the directory for the build, and without going through every type there is also save to EXT2/3/4. You must alter the values in the Config.txt file for the build to know where to save data. Double check you have setup the Config.txt file correctly as you could be telling the build to save to EXT2/3/4 when there is not one. I dont know but it could affect the WP7 partition so it corrupts it and causes the above mentioned problems. Always read the chefs installation notes. Try installing MarkinXHD Extra Clean Magldr Build instead of DL Desire just to make sure.
Can anyone else throw any solutions to this problem?
zarathustrax said:
No problem... I was very active in the other dualboot thread, too. You did a good job writing this tutorial up, so hopefully there won't be too many people confused, but I'll be around to help answer peoples questions, too. I figure once a thread is public, it's up to everyone who knows to help everyone out who's having problems... that's what this community is about... plus the more people that get involved in problem solving, the more we find easier and better ways of doing things. It was actually hyellow and me that figured out that you need to change the partition from logical to primary when I was having the problem of not being able to mount the card in android. It was fun watching and helping the method that you have posted evolve over several days and get easier and quicker to do.
Also, I was thinking that I might collect all my edited SD builds (I've got almost every build working) in to my dropbox and post the links to them in the second post to make it easier for people following this tutorial to grab a build that's already edited to work with magldr. What do you think?
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I completely agree with the community sharing knowledge and that was one of the main reasons for me posting this tutorial. I am a strong believer in if you give a man a fish, then you have provided one dinner but if you teach that man to fish, then he has a lifetime worth of meals.
It would be very generous for you to share the builds you have converted to boot into Magldr as it would give people more options to what build they can choose to dual boot WP7 with. As a matter of fact, being certified in Microsoft, I was looking into doing this myself and was the next mission for me. I have limited Linux use but I am starting to sink my teeth into it and become fluent.
I post a video here if you like to follow by visualization
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-cUdB4_5f4
Hey which would be the best way to do this activate my phone when i get it then flash, or flash and activate the phone service after i install the Os's.
jab12 said:
Hey which would be the best way to do this activate my phone when i get it then flash, or flash and activate the phone service after i install the Os's.
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What do you mean by activate? Do you mean get your activation code? If so, get it anytime... you will need the activation code to use live services in wp7 anytime you flash a new wp7 rom. If you mean activate your cell phone service, that can be done at any time, also.
georo said:
I post a video here if you like to follow by visualization
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-cUdB4_5f4
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Thank you for the YouTube link to the same process as described in this tutorial.
I have watched the video and it does not mention that you have to change the Unfomatted partition from Logical to Primary. This is essential if you want to use the camera and to gain access to other files such as music from you SD card. Also in the video it is being demonstrated in Easeus Partition Manager. This is a good program but with it you cant change the Unformatted partition from Logical to Primary. This is the main reason I chose to use Minitool Partition Wizard. With this program everything can be done.
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Thank you for the YouTube link to the same process as described in this tutorial.
I have watched the video and it does not mention that you have to change the Unfomatted partition from Logical to Primary. This is essential if you want to use the camera and to gain access to other files such as music from you SD card. Also in the video it is being demonstrated in Easeus Partition Manager. This is a good program but with it you cant change the Unformatted partition from Logical to Primary. This is the main reason I chose to use Minitool Partition Wizard. With this program everything can be done.
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If you look in the description there is a link to the minitool and a description why you have to use the tool. The original thread is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815
ok here is what i got : i cant post link soo write "HTC HD2 T8585 - Black (Unlocked) Smartphone" in ebay and you will get it in sort its New HTC HD2 T8585 4.3" 3G 1GHz 5MP GPS WIFI WINDOWS MOBILE 6.5 SMARTPHONE
US SETTINGS, MONEY BACK, SHIP TO WORLDWIDE, 100% UNLOCK
MEMORY Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall
Call records Practically unlimited
Internal 448 MB RAM, 512 MB ROM
Card slot microSD, up to 32 GB
dont look at the price its mach hier in my country soo am heppy...
soo now i got WM 6.5 and i want WM 7.5 + android
and i know **** about bouth... soo help me pliz step by step what do i install first
thanks doron
some one? youtube links , from links , jast tell me what to do in sort...
The Best Thing To Do with a new HD2
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ok first thanks now i understen more and i have been reading in the form some stuff soo i see what is going in i stell have a few qustions
*can you tell me the steps what do i do first radio? android? and how do i doul boot soo i have bouth OS?
1. why WM 7.5 is not supported? (if you can be more Specific) becouse its not offisel, from i see on youtube its working fast and good all i need on it is skype,facebook, whatapp, waze ...? soo if you can explan more about it
2. why android 2.3.... and not android 4.0? he is officel i think... if you can explan more about it...
3. i have a 8 GB SD card is it good or should i buy 32 GB?
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first of all thank you very mach!!!!! you help me a lot!!!
soo after looking in youtube and in the forum i desiided that
i want to have doul boot WM 7.5 and Android 4.0.4
soo i think i will take this roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1534941 TIGER ROM|05 April [v4.5.0 ]
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492488 [12.04.12][MAGLDR][SD][ICS 4.0.4]Unofficial AOKP31 v2 (AKA IceCreamTostidroid)
ok soo let see if i know what im doing soo i need to do my raido
HSPL3 Link: (http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...5&d=1277138402)
and do http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
with : Leo_RADIO_2.15.50.14**: MultiUpload
after this i do ? i need to doul boot? soo the fouom have a doul boot guid?
from what i understod i need to first install WM 7.5 soo is there a good guid to install it? and after i do it do i jast install the android or do i need to do somesing?
now thet i told you what i want to install can you help me and send me to the reight links and to tell me what i do first you know step by step
like : 1.*link* you do this with radio 7. bla bla
2. *link* you do this dwonload bla bla
thanks alot!!!!! doron
and if you recomend difrent rom pliz say and will my 8 GB can take the android + MW7.5?
doron050 said:
first of all thank you very mach!!!!! you help me a lot!!!
soo after looking in youtube and in the forum i desiided that
i want to have doul boot WM 7.5 and Android 4.0.4
soo i think i will take this roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1534941 TIGER ROM|05 April [v4.5.0 ]
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492488 [12.04.12][MAGLDR][SD][ICS 4.0.4]Unofficial AOKP31 v2 (AKA IceCreamTostidroid)
ok soo let see if i know what im doing soo i need to do my raido
HSPL3 Link: (http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...5&d=1277138402)
and do http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
with : Leo_RADIO_2.15.50.14**: MultiUpload
after this i do ? i need to doul boot? soo the fouom have a doul boot guid?
from what i understod i need to first install WM 7.5 soo is there a good guid to install it? and after i do it do i jast install the android or do i need to do somesing?
now thet i told you what i want to install can you help me and send me to the reight links and to tell me what i do first you know step by step
like : 1.*link* you do this with radio 7. bla bla
2. *link* you do this dwonload bla bla
thanks alot!!!!! doron
and if you recomend difrent rom pliz say and will my 8 GB can take the android + MW7.5?
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You really should download the HD2 NAND Toolkit. You can use the toolkit to flash HSPL, MAGLDR, or clk to your HD2. It has all of these included in the download for the Toolkit. You can also use it to flash an .nbh file to your HD2. This means you can flash Splashscreens and Windows Mobile ROMs with the Toolkit also.
Go to this thread to learn how to dual boot Windows Phone 7.5 and Android. But just so you know Android can only be run from SD card when you have WP 7.5 installed in NAND. You can not however dual boot Android from NAND and WP 7.5from SD card as WP uses your SD card as internal memory.
Last of all for your on good please read the guide in my signature so you can hopefully educate yourself about exactly what the MAGLDR is and what it's function is. Plus it is a load more of info I think would very much help you to read.
thank you very mach i jast seee i need to put the android in SD card will it make it sloer? or its will upload in self to RAM on start up... if its like this maybe i will start with jast android 4.0.4 soo jast for this what do i need?
and in the future i will doul boot whan i buy a 16 GB SD card
and can i use this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136644
jast for the start untel i read all about RADIO and HL things cause u relly wanna start useing the phone...
i wanna use it on : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492488
doron050 said:
thank you very mach i jast seee i need to put the android in SD card will it make it sloer? or its will upload in self to RAM on start up... if its like this maybe i will start with jast android 4.0.4 soo jast for this what do i need?
and in the future i will doul boot whan i buy a 16 GB SD card
and can i use this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136644
jast for the start untel i read all about RADIO and HL things cause u relly wanna start useing the phone...
i wanna use it on : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492488
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The first thread you linked is a tool used to install Android to NAND widget means Android boots from internal memory. So unless you want to just use Android on your HD2 this is not the guide for you right now.
The second thread you linked is to a SD card buildvthat uses Super RAM which means that part of the main Android system boots into RAM on start up widget makes the build run faster. If this is what you want to use for your Android you just need to download it and extract the contents of the .zip file to the root of your SD card and then either use the file explorer to touch on CLRCAD and then HARET, or you can install a dual boot app for Windows Mobile that you can use to boot your Android from SD card.
I just want to correct a very very wrong statement, WP7.5 is very well supported. The HD2 is often better supported by the dev community than official WP devices, infact the HD2 got Tango before any other WP phone. Also with WP7.5 on NAND you can dual boot so you can have Android and WP7.5, you can't do that the other way around. I would suggest dual booting HD2Owners ROM found HERE along with AmericanAndroid on the SD found HERE. These two are both realy stable and well supported.
ok now i got very very conpused...
ok know the phone better then me soo i will take your seggestion but now lets make order
soo i want :
02.04.12 HD2O© http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953078
AmeriCanAndroid AOSP HD2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652
ok see first of all i need to take care of my RADIO and SPL and istall WM7.5 soo:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=971478&highlight=install+Windows+Phone+HTC+HD2
and then :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815
*this looks very hard... but very hard lots of steps...
and i dont have a android install guid....
doron050 said:
ok now i got very very conpused...
ok know the phone better then me soo i will take your seggestion but now lets make order
soo i want :
02.04.12 HD2O© http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953078
AmeriCanAndroid AOSP HD2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652
ok see first of all i need to take care of my RADIO and SPL and istall WM7.5 soo:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=971478&highlight=install+Windows+Phone+HTC+HD2
and then :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815
*this looks very hard... but very hard lots of steps...
and i dont have a android install guid....
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Ok let me see if I can walk you through this some. First download the 02.04.12 HD2O© ROM, the AmeriCanAndroid AOSP HD2 SD card build, the Leo_RADIO_2.15.50.14, the EASEUS ALL-IN-ONE Partition Manager Software mentioned in the guide I linked, and if you do not already have it download the HD2 NAND Toolkit. You will also need to download and install Active Sync or Windows Mobile Device Center (these programs have the USB drivers you will need) depending on what version of Windows you have, you will just have to google for a download as I do not know what version of windows you have, I suggest you put both the WP7 ROM, the Android SD card build, and the 2.15.50.14 Radio in a folder that you can easily remember were they are on your computer. Also go ahead and install both the HD2 Toolkit and the partitioning software on your computer.
Now to make sure you do not have any problems with your SD card I recommend you do a full re-format of your SD card. You will need a USB card reader and a Micro SD card adapter.I linked them just so you will have a visual reference of what you need, but those are the ones I have and they work great. Aslo if your computer has a card reader you like mine does you just need a Micro SD card adapter. Now back to re-formatting your SD card.
Place your SD card in the Micro SD card adapter, then place the Micro SD card adapter in the USB card reader (or the USB card reader on your computer), and then plug the USB card reader into one of the USB ports on your computer. Let your computer install the drivers and go to the windows start menu and click on Computer or My computer depending on which version of Windows you are using. You should see the SD card as a removable drive. Right click the drive and select copy and then create a folder to paste the data that is on the SD card already so you will have a backup. Now right click on the drive again and select format, when the format window pops up make sure to uncheck the the box beside Quick Format and also make sure it says FAT32 under File System. Click Start and then click Ok on the warning window that pops up. Then set back and relax until the card is done being formatted.
Now you need to make sure you have at least 50% or more battery, but I suggest you have a full charge before you start just to be safe. Once you have the proper battery level you need to boot your HD2 into the bootloader by holding the volume down button down while you power on your HD2. When you see the multicolor boot connect it via USB and wait until you see the Serial in the white bar of the bootloader change to USB. Now open the folder with the 2.15.50.14 Radio in it and extract the files from the .rar file, you will need Win RAR to do this. Once you have the files extracted click on the CustomRUU.exe file and follow all of the on screen instructions. Once the RUU is done you will have the 2.15.50.14 Radio installed on your HD2.
Next you need to boot your HD2 back into the bootloader and connect it to your computer via USB again. Open the HD2NAND Toolkit and click on the Install HSPL button under Main Tools. Follow the on screen instructions and when it is done you will have HSPL 2.08 installed on your HD2. Now go back to the HD2 NAND Toolkit and click on the Insatall MAGLDR button under Main Tools. Follow the on screen instructions and when it is done you will have MAGLDR 1.13 installed on your HD2.
Now that you have MAGLDR installed on your HD2 it should only boot up to the MAGLDR 1.13 main menu. Go to option number 5 USB Flasher and then find the HD2O ROM file you downloaded and extract the files drom it. Once the files are extracted click on the DWI.exe and follow the on screen commands. When it is done you will have Windows Phone 7 on your HD2.
Now you need to follow the part of the guide you linked that I have quoted below. I left the link to the video of the method that I have quoted so watch it as it is a very good video. Oh and in case you do not notice it in the video, you need to hold down the power button while your HD2 is booting to boot to the MAGLDR main menu. And the video will show you how to get the Android build to boot on your HD2.
darrengladysz said:
THIRD METHOD - USING A SINGLE SD CARD - HERE IS ANOTHER ALTERNATE METHOD PROPOSED BY XDA MEMBER HYELLOW (UPDATED)
1. Put your sd card inside the hd2 and power on.
2. Go to about screen, in settings, and reset your device. Let it reset and boot to WP7 again. While booting to WP7, it'll create the partitions it needs, so this is important. After you have gone through the setup wizard, go to about screen and reset your device again.
3. When it has booted into magldr screen, remove the sd card and insert into pc. (make sure that magldr is shown and stays there at bootup, otherwise it'll boot straight into wp7 without sd card and that is not what we want.
4. You'll see two partitions. A whopping 200mb of fat16 partition and the other is unformatted. Now right click on the unformatted partition and click delete. After that, click apply. Now you have unallocated space. Right click on the unallocated space and select create. Set parameters to logical and unformatted and size the partition. This will be your WP7 partition, so decide how much you want to allocate to it, this is permanent, no changes afterwards can be made. Also, make sure you move it to the end of the sd card in the same 'create' window. Hit apply. IMPORTANT When using this method make sure that the wp7 "unformatted partition" is larger than the Android partition otherwise the wp7 "unformatted partition" will move in 2nd place and you will not be able to resize the fat 16 / android partition.
5. Sit back and take a break.
break.
6. You now have a green fat16 partition to the left, some unallocated grey portion in the middle and your WP7 partition in modern turqoise colour on the far right. Agreed? Now remove the sd card from PC and insert in HD2.
7. After you have inserted the sd card, let it boot into WP7. Remember what your last action was when you were still in WP7? Yes, you pressed reset, so the device actually thinks he is still resetting the device. He might do it too, but just go through the setup wizard again.
8. Go to about screen and verify your storage. Don't look strange if when the storage has a different of about 1Gb, this is swallowed by WP7 for system stuff etc. Are you happy with the progress so far? Then power down your device and remove the sd card. Allow the HD2 to fully powered down as sometimes the screen is pitch black, but the device is still turning off.
9. Insert the sd card in pc and, using EASUS right click on the green fat 16 partition and select resize/move. Now fill up the rest of the unallocated space and hit apply. This is your android partition.
10. Format the sd android partition (not the whole sd card!) using EASUS to FAT32 using 32 or 64 kb cluster size and put an android build onto it and test.
11. IMPORTANT You need to convert the wp7 unformatted partition to primary for the sd android to see the sd card Use minitool partition wizard to do this. Right click on your WP7 unformatted partition and select modify and then click on set as primary and hit apply. Here is the link for minitool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10887494&postcount=372
VIDEO INSTRUCTIONS
Here is another video by Geolo for persons with only 1 card and 1 card reader. Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-cUdB4_5f4
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Hope this is detailed enough for you.
T-Macgnolia did a great job with the walk-through the only thing I would suggest is that you can save yourself a LOT of headache if after you get the HD20 ROM installed use CAB Sender and send one of the partition updates from xboxmod to your phone. This will let you skip all the hard partitioning stuff. The CAB's with various partition sizes can be found HERE. After you send the CAB you will have to go to 'Settings' -> 'about' -> 'reset your phone' -> 'yes' -> 'yes'
From that point on you can finish with installing Android onto the SD card.
ok soo first of all thank you very very very mach enry one! the phone will arrive (i ordered it from ebay) in a week in the meen time i downloaded all the file i need and im reading about RADIO and HSPL and seeing a video in youtube
now i didnt understend the secend post i got a 8GB SD card soo what i do with the program is chosing 8GB after i got WM7.5 install and it is insted of:
Now you need to follow the part of the guide you linked that I have quoted below. I left the link to the video of the method that I have quoted so watch it as it is a very good video. Oh and in case you do not notice it in the video, you need to hold down the power button while your HD2 is booting to boot to the MAGLDR main menu. And the video will show you how to get the Android build to boot on your HD2.
Originally Posted by darrengladysz
THIRD METHOD - USING A SINGLE SD CARD - HERE IS ANOTHER ALTERNATE METHOD PROPOSED BY XDA MEMBER HYELLOW (UPDATED)
1. Put your sd card inside the hd2 and power on.
2. Go to about screen, in settings, and reset your device. Let it reset and boot to WP7 again. While booting to WP7, it'll create the partitions it needs, so this is important. After you have gone through the setup wizard, go to about screen and reset your device again.
3. When it has booted into magldr screen, remove the sd card and insert into pc. (make sure that magldr is shown and stays there at bootup, otherwise it'll boot straight into wp7 without sd card and that is not what we want.
4. You'll see two partitions. A whopping 200mb of fat16 partition and the other is unformatted. Now right click on the unformatted partition and click delete. After that, click apply. Now you have unallocated space. Right click on the unallocated space and select create. Set parameters to logical and unformatted and size the partition. This will be your WP7 partition, so decide how much you want to allocate to it, this is permanent, no changes afterwards can be made. Also, make sure you move it to the end of the sd card in the same 'create' window. Hit apply. IMPORTANT When using this method make sure that the wp7 "unformatted partition" is larger than the Android partition otherwise the wp7 "unformatted partition" will move in 2nd place and you will not be able to resize the fat 16 / android partition.
5. Sit back and take a break.
break.
6. You now have a green fat16 partition to the left, some unallocated grey portion in the middle and your WP7 partition in modern turqoise colour on the far right. Agreed? Now remove the sd card from PC and insert in HD2.
7. After you have inserted the sd card, let it boot into WP7. Remember what your last action was when you were still in WP7? Yes, you pressed reset, so the device actually thinks he is still resetting the device. He might do it too, but just go through the setup wizard again.
8. Go to about screen and verify your storage. Don't look strange if when the storage has a different of about 1Gb, this is swallowed by WP7 for system stuff etc. Are you happy with the progress so far? Then power down your device and remove the sd card. Allow the HD2 to fully powered down as sometimes the screen is pitch black, but the device is still turning off.
9. Insert the sd card in pc and, using EASUS right click on the green fat 16 partition and select resize/move. Now fill up the rest of the unallocated space and hit apply. This is your android partition.
10. Format the sd android partition (not the whole sd card!) using EASUS to FAT32 using 32 or 64 kb cluster size and put an android build onto it and test.
11. IMPORTANT You need to convert the wp7 unformatted partition to primary for the sd android to see the sd card Use minitool partition wizard to do this. Right click on your WP7 unformatted partition and select modify and then click on set as primary and hit apply. Here is the link for minitool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=372
VIDEO INSTRUCTIONS
Here is another video by Geolo for persons with only 1 card and 1 card reader. Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-cUdB4_5f4
after the program i do part 11? or 10? or i jast install android? what is this program do? make room for the anndroid right?
doron050 said:
ok soo first of all thank you very very very mach enry one! the phone will arrive (i ordered it from ebay) in a week in the meen time i downloaded all the file i need and im reading about RADIO and HSPL and seeing a video in youtube
now i didnt understend the secend post i got a 8GB SD card soo what i do with the program is chosing 8GB after i got WM7.5 install and it is insted of:
Now you need to follow the part of the guide you linked that I have quoted below. I left the link to the video of the method that I have quoted so watch it as it is a very good video. Oh and in case you do not notice it in the video, you need to hold down the power button while your HD2 is booting to boot to the MAGLDR main menu. And the video will show you how to get the Android build to boot on your HD2.
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Well to be very honest to you I have only flashed four WP7 ROMs to my HD2. So my knowledge of the ends and outs of WP7 on the HD2 is somewhat limited. I do remember reading something about Cab Sender. I think you have your HD2 booted into the WP7 ROM and your HD2 connected via USB to your computer to I se the Cab Sender to transfer cab files to your HD2 and install them also. Maybe XDA Seior Member voluptuary can spread some more light on it for you. But if I remember correctly if what voluptuary is telling to do takes out Step 1 to 11 of the guide I qouted and everything in the video up to here he puts te Android build on the SD card as I think it will. Then I say it sounds like you may want to check it out I am willing to bet it is not complicated to figure out.
Now just on a side note, I do still say it would be a very good idea to still do it te other way even if you try the Cab Sender. It is always a very good idea of how to manually do things. This way you understand a little bit better what you are doing to your device. And remember knowledge is power.
doron050 said:
THIRD METHOD - USING A SINGLE SD CARD - HERE IS ANOTHER ALTERNATE METHOD PROPOSED BY XDA MEMBER HYELLOW (UPDATED)
1. Put your sd card inside the hd2 and power on.
2. Go to about screen, in settings, and reset your device. Let it reset and boot to WP7 again. While booting to WP7, it'll create the partitions it needs, so this is important. After you have gone through the setup wizard, go to about screen and reset your device again.
3. When it has booted into magldr screen, remove the sd card and insert into pc. (make sure that magldr is shown and stays there at bootup, otherwise it'll boot straight into wp7 without sd card and that is not what we want.
4. You'll see two partitions. A whopping 200mb of fat16 partition and the other is unformatted. Now right click on the unformatted partition and click delete. After that, click apply. Now you have unallocated space. Right click on the unallocated space and select create. Set parameters to logical and unformatted and size the partition. This will be your WP7 partition, so decide how much you want to allocate to it, this is permanent, no changes afterwards can be made. Also, make sure you move it to the end of the sd card in the same 'create' window. Hit apply. IMPORTANT When using this method make sure that the wp7 "unformatted partition" is larger than the Android partition otherwise the wp7 "unformatted partition" will move in 2nd place and you will not be able to resize the fat 16 / android partition.
5. Sit back and take a break.
break.
6. You now have a green fat16 partition to the left, some unallocated grey portion in the middle and your WP7 partition in modern turqoise colour on the far right. Agreed? Now remove the sd card from PC and insert in HD2.
7. After you have inserted the sd card, let it boot into WP7. Remember what your last action was when you were still in WP7? Yes, you pressed reset, so the device actually thinks he is still resetting the device. He might do it too, but just go through the setup wizard again.
8. Go to about screen and verify your storage. Don't look strange if when the storage has a different of about 1Gb, this is swallowed by WP7 for system stuff etc. Are you happy with the progress so far? Then power down your device and remove the sd card. Allow the HD2 to fully powered down as sometimes the screen is pitch black, but the device is still turning off.
9. Insert the sd card in pc and, using EASUS right click on the green fat 16 partition and select resize/move. Now fill up the rest of the unallocated space and hit apply. This is your android partition.
10. Format the sd android partition (not the whole sd card!) using EASUS to FAT32 using 32 or 64 kb cluster size and put an android build onto it and test.
11. IMPORTANT You need to convert the wp7 unformatted partition to primary for the sd android to see the sd card Use minitool partition wizard to do this. Right click on your WP7 unformatted partition and select modify and then click on set as primary and hit apply. Here is the link for minitool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=372
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^-- This whole part you don't need to do.
after the program i do part 11? or 10? or i jast install android? what is this program do? make room for the anndroid right?
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All you would have to do is after you install the HD20 WP7 ROM send one of the partition CAB's I linked to earlier, so say you want a 2GB partition for Android you would send "DEV_EXTRAPART_2G.cab" with CAB Sender and then do a full reset from within WP7. Then let WP7 reboot and you should be all set to power down the phone take the SD card out and copy the 'Android' folder over to the SD card that you would have taken out of the ZIP from the AmericanAndroid thread. You have to be sure to follow the few instuctions in the AmericanAndroid ZIP readme to get it to boot via MAGLDR.
Then to point MAGLDR to the right place to boot Android you need to, while powering the phone on with the loaded up SD card, press and hold the power button to get into the MAGLDR menu then go to '10. Services' -> '1. BootSettings' -> '3. AD SD Dir' and then select the 'Android' folder you just copied over to your SD card.
all is great!!! one lest Question how do i do a windows live acc ?
the phone will arreive in a faw days...
doron050 said:
all is great!!! one lest Question how do i do a windows live acc ?
the phone will arreive in a faw days...
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Well to get a Windows live account you just have to go to live.com and creat a account or just creat one when you go through the set up when you first boot WP7.
But I think what you are asking is how to get live services working. To do this you will have to contact Microsoft. Check out this thread for more details on it. I got my code over live chat on m computer, I told them it was a HTC HD7.
Or you can use skype and call 1-800-642-7676
its microsft Us support number and its toll free so you can call it on skype for free (from anywehre in world) say you have a technical problem and its user related.
then it will connect you to an operator
he/she will ask for your problem, just say u have a HTC HD7 phone and it wants a 25 digit activation code from u.
Then he/she will ask for your phone number, ur operator, ur email, and your name (don't worry they r not gonna spy on u, they just want it for registration, believe me I know ;-P )
then u have to be on hold for 5-10 mins and he/she will read u the activation code
BUT: if you have a poor connection or bad English language skills then the chat method is far better
PS: my opinion as an ORD? it doesn't worth the hassle. I remember after lots of hours spending online and finding the best rom and the best way to change to WP7 and finally activating it... I couldn't make it through the first day on WP7 (even thou I had SD android, the wake up bug really bugged me). then I just flashed to an ICS rom and then it was happily ever after
ok thanks evrey one soo i see a lot of ppl say thet WM7.5 is not thet good...
but i have 2 more qestion:
ace4cia i saw ICS on HD2 in youtube and i saw it is slow not moving fast do you have thet problam ?
and what rom do you advise?
and whan voluptuary says DEV_EXTRAPART_2G.cab its for the sastem only? if i install apps i can do it only on the 2 G or the all SD card
doron050 said:
i saw ICS on HD2 in youtube and i saw it is slow not moving fast do you have thet problam ?
and what rom do you advise?
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nope, not at all, well it's not like a quadcore phone but it is pretty well for ours, still far better than wp7 though ↖(^▽^)↗
and for the rom if ur looking for beauty and performance together the ics miui.us by smokin is awesome, but if ur looking for stock looks of ics and ofc performance then nexushd or aokp are cool too ㄟ(≧◇≦)ㄏ
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA