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Hello all,
I dropped my work cell, and jacked it up bad.
Good thing though, is I am eligible for an upgrade and the datacom ladies told me I can get any of the Verizon Android phones or an iPhone 4S.
I need some suggestions for new phones pretty quickly as I need to let my Director know by this Friday.
I love Android so I think the iPhone is out of the question. I have an HTC EVO for my personal phone. I am looking at the Motorola Droid Razr MAXX and the Galaxy Nexus.
Price doesn't really matter, as the company allows up to $300 for phone replacement every 2 years, so they would both be "free" to me.
I would like to be able to root the phone so I can tether. There is pretty good LTE 4G coverage in my area as well. What are some pros and cons to them? What phones do you suggest (Im open to other models as well).?
galaxy nezus!
Galaxy Nexus has the full support of Google which means the best versions of Android. The nexus will be VERY easy to root and custom MOD to your hearts desire. It is the developer phone of choice because of the Nexus Line. Incredible screen, really big, really clear and detailed.
The Droid RAZR MAXX has the best bettery of life of almost any phone on the market and it probably has the best hardware too. Kevlar backing, metal frame. Motorola has gotten better in terms of software, Motoblur isn't quite so crappy. Motorola phones are harder to root and custom mod but they aren't impossible. The screen is smaller and less clear then the Nexus but Coming from and HTC EVO it is an improvement.
Recommendation for a WORK phone, i would recommend the RAZR MAXX. Its battery life is incredible. You have no worries about a dead battery halfway through the day
In fact,Motoblur is very good.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say Rezound, it has a lot going for it. It's a global device! Plus if you are already used to sense, and like it, you will know your way around it. Plus, it's unlockable through HTC dev. Super easy process. Then you only have to flash recovery, su binary, then download superuser and you are rooted.
Nexus is no longer going to be supported by Google as the issues with CDMA have become too much of a hassle.
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Thanks for the suggestions so far. I didnt even think about the Rezound.
I do like the high resolutions of the Nexus and the Rezound, but the battery life on the Razr Maxx is tempting.
For me I want to be able to root it, and have a good looking display, and a phone that is going to be smooth with ICS. I also need a phone that will be fairly durable, as it will see alot of use at the office as well as in the datacenter. Since I only get an upgrade from work every 2 years, I would like one that will "be around" for a while. My personal EVO has been a damn good phone and I would love to use one like it for work.
Whats the deal with Google and CDMA phones? I havent heard that.
I say the Razr Maxx if you want durability. Otherwise the Rezound is great all around.
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BooDaddy said:
Whats the deal with Google and CDMA phones? I havent heard that.
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Nothing...they are very much still supported.
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Nothing...they are very much still supported.
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Not quite, Google is no longer directly supporting CDMA phones with full AOSP support.
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So if we were to compare the resolutions alone, is there a huge difference in the Razr's lower resolution screens?
Rezound will be getting ICS as soon as HTC released Ville so probably a few months
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I would say Moto Razr Maxx. Has awesome batter life its super sexy and will more that positively get ICS.
BooDaddy said:
Thanks for the suggestions so far. I didnt even think about the Rezound.
I do like the high resolutions of the Nexus and the Rezound, but the battery life on the Razr Maxx is tempting.
For me I want to be able to root it, and have a good looking display, and a phone that is going to be smooth with ICS. I also need a phone that will be fairly durable, as it will see alot of use at the office as well as in the datacenter. Since I only get an upgrade from work every 2 years, I would like one that will "be around" for a while. My personal EVO has been a damn good phone and I would love to use one like it for work.
Whats the deal with Google and CDMA phones? I havent heard that.
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Durability and battery life has to be the RAZR MAXX, it is built solid.
As for Google. It still supports CDMA devices but not directly through the Android Open Source Project. CDMA requires closed sourced sign apk's for the carriers in order to get data working. Google doesn't like that. Verizon leveraged that into bloating its version of the Nexus. Google STILL supports it, just not through AOSP
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So if we were to compare the resolutions alone, is there a huge difference in the Razr's lower resolution screens?
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I've never used the Razr yet...but i've used just about all of motorola phones, pre-android and android...and although they're getting better...they're never as good their competitors... get the SGNEXUS!!!
A little background first. VZW is my only option due to my line being a corporate line. Roughly a year and a half ago, I got fed up with the crappy phone choices (only blackberry at the time), so I just started buying my own and calling the 3rd party service that runs our wireless operations and telling them "I just got a new phone, could you please do an ESN swap?". That has always worked. Recently, the phone choices have gotten much better and include a variety of BB, Android and iOS devices now. Over the last few years I've gone from DINC (personal device I had since it first came out) to blackberry to DINC2 to iPhone4 to currently the Razr M. Now with SIM cards it's super easy for me to use whatever device I prefer.
Here's my current "dilemma". I have a retail Razr M (which I picked up shortly after release). Definitely loving this phone and couldn't be more happy to be back on Android after a brief hiatus to iOS. Had to give it try. Big believer in "you can't bash something without trying it". But damn iOS gets boring fast. Ha! I was excited about the M due to it's smaller footprint AND high end internals. The only thing I don't like is the locked bootloader. I was quite the crack flasher with my DINC and DINC2. The locked bootloader has led me to have interest in the S3. But I've always had an aversion to large screen phones. I like to be able operate my phone one handed. So now I have a brand new S3 sitting on my desk and I'm unsure what to do with it. I'm really enjoying my M and Jelly Bean is (almost officially) here. But I'm very interested in some CM10 or AOKP. I definitely prefer the AOSP stuff.
So the question is, do I continue my "don't bash it without trying it" theory and move over to the S3 for some AOSP love??? Or stick with the M and live with whatever fate that lies ahead?? I can only keep one. Will sell the other.
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A little background first. VZW is my only option due to my line being a corporate line. Roughly a year and a half ago, I got fed up with the crappy phone choices (only blackberry at the time), so I just started buying my own and calling the 3rd party service that runs our wireless operations and telling them "I just got a new phone, could you please do an ESN swap?". That has always worked. Recently, the phone choices have gotten much better and include a variety of BB, Android and iOS devices now. Over the last few years I've gone from DINC (personal device I had since it first came out) to blackberry to DINC2 to iPhone4 to currently the Razr M. Now with SIM cards it's super easy for me to use whatever device I prefer.
Here's my current "dilemma". I have a retail Razr M (which I picked up shortly after release). Definitely loving this phone and couldn't be more happy to be back on Android after a brief hiatus to iOS. Had to give it try. Big believer in "you can't bash something without trying it". But damn iOS gets boring fast. Ha! I was excited about the M due to it's smaller footprint AND high end internals. The only thing I don't like is the locked bootloader. I was quite the crack flasher with my DINC and DINC2. The locked bootloader has led me to have interest in the S3. But I've always had an aversion to large screen phones. I like to be able operate my phone one handed. So now I have a brand new S3 sitting on my desk and I'm unsure what to do with it. I'm really enjoying my M and Jelly Bean is (almost officially) here. But I'm very interested in some CM10 or AOKP. I definitely prefer the AOSP stuff.
So the question is, do I continue my "don't bash it without trying it" theory and move over to the S3 for some AOSP love??? Or stick with the M and live with whatever fate that lies ahead?? I can only keep one. Will sell the other.
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I'd say stick with the phone you like better. Yesterday I was analyzing what I'm missing without root (I'm on team EOS 3.0 on my Xoom) and I couldn't really come up with much. One of the biggest pluses: WiFi tethering, now can be done with any app on verizon because of that lawsuit. Other than that, TiBu is a loss, and maybe some OCing and performance but I mean I loaded up the phone and its still buttery smooth with good battery. Definitely the interface modding and some fun bells and whistles are missing without custom rom but it doesn't really add up to much.
The s3 is gigantic and more expensive. I'm happy with my choice.
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Unfortunately, the two phones you've chosen represent opposite ends of the "experience spectrum" - so personal preference is going to play a big part. The only real thing the S3 has over the M that's not subjective is a better camera, and 2gb of ram vs. 1. The rest will depend on your preferences. Yes, the S3 will have more dev support. But the M won't be without it, either - root should be closer, though not guaranteed, based on a comment by P3 last night - but obviously rooting and romming are not always correlated.
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I'd say stick with the phone you like better. Yesterday I was analyzing what I'm missing without root (I'm on team EOS 3.0 on my Xoom) and I couldn't really come up with much. One of the biggest pluses: WiFi tethering, now can be done with any app on verizon because of that lawsuit. Other than that, TiBu is a loss, and maybe some OCing and performance but I mean I loaded up the phone and its still buttery smooth with good battery. Definitely the interface modding and some fun bells and whistles are missing without custom rom but it doesn't really add up to much.
The s3 is gigantic and more expensive. I'm happy with my choice.
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I agree the S3 is gigantic. I also was trying to come up with things I miss by not having root and couldn't really come up with much that seemed overly important. All were smaller bells and whistles type things. Blur on this phone is very minimal, which I like and is a big plus (for me). I'm really enjoying the M. And love the size. I too am having a smooth experience with pretty solid battery life. No issues whatsoever thus far. Best bet is to probably stick with the M. I got a good deal on the S3 and should have no trouble getting back what I paid, maybe more.
Plus, I've been wanting a Nexus 7...
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Unfortunately, the two phones you've chosen represent opposite ends of the "experience spectrum" - so personal preference is going to play a big part. The only real thing the S3 has over the M that's not subjective is a better camera, and 2gb of ram vs. 1. The rest will depend on your preferences. Yes, the S3 will have more dev support. But the M won't be without it, either - root should be closer, though not guaranteed, based on a comment by P3 last night - but obviously rooting and romming are not always correlated.
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Yes, they are definitely very different experiences. My preference has always been for smaller, easily pocketable phones. Which exactly describes the M. I don't need/want a tablet in my pocket.
I agree about the camera, but overall the M hasn't really let me down. Sure it would be nice to have a better camera, but it's not a deal breaker for me. You just have to know the limitations that you're working with. And the extra ram would be nice too. But not sure either are worth giving up the form factor that I prefer.
And I have been following the dev support of the M closely as well. I saw the comments by P3 and his team. They are very promising. And definitely helping to influence my ultimate decision. Honestly, I don't really need (or want) to be able to flash billions of roms. Just looking for a (close to) stock experience that is snappy, fully functional and bug free. Which is what I've got right now with the M. Still running the stock ICS, have not updated to the JB leak.
(I think I'm confirming my gut feelings / answering my own questions as this thread moves along... Thanks for the dialogue)
The simplest choice would seem to be ordering a Developer Edition RAZR M. If you really like the M but want the ability to fiddle, that's your route. There are already recovery and root images available for it and I think the devs will be supporting it for a while especially since the RAZR HD and HD MAXX are also running the same internals.
As for the SGSIII - Verizon is the only carrier that doesn't sell it with an unlocked bootloader so technically you'd need to buy the developer edition of that to get what you want anyway.
Neither the RAZR M nor the SGSIII Dev Editions are available via Verizon subsidized contracts.
Personally I think Sammy missed the boat. If the SGSIII Mini did what the RAZR did (same internals with smaller screen) they might have won me over, but they really skimped on the thing. What a shame.
Just my $.02.
I'm a runner and a cyclist, so the smaller the better which is why I loved my Atrix 4G (which is now running JB). The RAZR M is a narrower phone with a bigger screen. It's great to simply stow and go.
Well, now that the M has root, I think your decision is a lot easier. I would say that seeing CM9 and/or 10 is a likely bet. However, the problem now is that anything after that may not run optimally, since the bootloader is still locked and we won't be able to run a kernel optimized for the newest version. That's the problem with my Pro. Somebody ported CM9 and an AOKP ICS ROM for it, and while it does run, it's not as good as it could be. We're still stuck on the Gingerbread kernel.
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Well, now that the M has root, I think your decision is a lot easier. I would say that seeing CM9 and/or 10 is a likely bet. However, the problem now is that anything after that may not run optimally, since the bootloader is still locked and we won't be able to run a kernel optimized for the newest version. That's the problem with my Pro. Somebody ported CM9 and an AOKP ICS ROM for it, and while it does run, it's not as good as it could be. We're still stuck on the Gingerbread kernel.
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I'm really hoping we can bust the M open over the next year or so =/
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The simplest choice would seem to be ordering a Developer Edition RAZR M. If you really like the M but want the ability to fiddle, that's your route. There are already recovery and root images available for it and I think the devs will be supporting it for a while especially since the RAZR HD and HD MAXX are also running the same internals.
As for the SGSIII - Verizon is the only carrier that doesn't sell it with an unlocked bootloader so technically you'd need to buy the developer edition of that to get what you want anyway.
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Verizon's bootloader can be unlocked with a single app from the play store. Super easy. The development on the S3 phone has been amazing thus far - currently on Liquid Smooth. I'm also considering switching to a smaller phone however and the M seems to be the only phone that's small with power. Following rooting and modding very closely on this phone before making the switch as I have gotten used to all the aokp+CM10 mods in the many S3 roms I've flashed.
You make an excellent point about the Razr HD and HD Maxx, I hope that helps this phone in the mod scene.
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Verizon's bootloader can be unlocked with a single app from the play store. Super easy.
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That's why I said "technically"
But I do agree it is easier on the SGSIII. Part of that is that HTC and Samsung have not taken the time to build system safeguards into their products the way Motorola has.
Browser vendors take pride in the headaches they cause to hackers trying to find vulnerabilities. Handset manufacturers, IMO, should be thinking the same way. With all the personal data on your phone, do you really want to be able to unlock it and obtain root from an app in the Play Store?
This is one of the reasons I like Motorola devices, despite the very limited flexibility.
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The simplest choice would seem to be ordering a Developer Edition RAZR M. If you really like the M but want the ability to fiddle, that's your route. There are already recovery and root images available for it and I think the devs will be supporting it for a while especially since the RAZR HD and HD MAXX are also running the same internals.
As for the SGSIII - Verizon is the only carrier that doesn't sell it with an unlocked bootloader so technically you'd need to buy the developer edition of that to get what you want anyway.
Neither the RAZR M nor the SGSIII Dev Editions are available via Verizon subsidized contracts.
Personally I think Sammy missed the boat. If the SGSIII Mini did what the RAZR did (same internals with smaller screen) they might have won me over, but they really skimped on the thing. What a shame.
Just my $.02.
I'm a runner and a cyclist, so the smaller the better which is why I loved my Atrix 4G (which is now running JB). The RAZR M is a narrower phone with a bigger screen. It's great to simply stow and go.
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The M is my first ever Motorola device. It's also my first device running ICS or JB (there were a few of us on here that had issues running ICS on our DINC2s). Spent a little time messing around installing the JB leak and flashing back to stock just to get used to using the stock recovery, fastboot etc. With wifi tether now working on the stock ROM and the ability to disable bloatware in ICS/JB, combined with the very minimal Blur skin, I don't really see the need to root this device right away. Plus, you really can't do everything you'd want to do without an unlockable bootloader. So I agree, the Developer Edition is the way to go if you want to ultimately fiddle with things at some point down the road. May have to pick one up at some point.
Couldn't agree more on Sammy missing the boat. The SG3 Mini would have won me over too if they hadn't watered it down. Maybe we'll see a slightly improved device ending up on VZW? I presume it will eventually come to VZW. Does that SoC they're using even support LTE? Who knows. Maybe wishful thinking. I love the M anyway. But it's always nice to have more options to consider.
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With all the personal data on your phone, do you really want to be able to unlock it and obtain root from an app in the Play Store?
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Good point. I don't..
I've definitely made my decision (which was realistically already made, just need to confirm). Let me know if you know anyone looking for a brand new blue SG3.
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Good point. I don't..
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Well plenty of people have done it. Check the forums over there. There are other applications that can do it for u on your own pc if u wanted too. Just saying it's available now. Plus doesn't rooting your phone technically make it a little less secure anyway? That's what blizzards authenticator has lead me to believe Haha. But the point was a locked bootloader isn't end of the line.
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Hey guys, i think about buying me a new phone with a dual core, because i think that this is the minimum configuration of a smartphone today (At the moment i have an optimus black).
Can you still recommend the RAZR (and why) or would you prefer other lowpriced (older) smartphones like the Nexus oder the Galaxy S2.
Thanks
I have a Galaxy Nexus and my girlfriend just got the Razr HD Maxx (Major upgrade from her Droid 2), and it really depends on what you are into. The device is amazingly snappy (Even more than my fully rooted, ROM'd, custom kernel Galaxy Nexus), and the radios are much stronger than my Galaxy Nexus (A lot of times she will have 4G in buildings where I only have 1 or 2 bars of 3G). Also, the 3300 Mah battery is insane, it literally is a full day phone, usually she has 45% at the end of the day (She uses it a lot for pinterest, facebook, all that girly stuff). But, the main problem is that it does not have stock Android, and probably won't for a while. If that bothers you then go with the Galaxy Nexus otherwise this is definitely a great phone to have.
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I have a Galaxy Nexus and my girlfriend just got the Razr HD Maxx (Major upgrade from her Droid 2), and it really depends on what you are into. The device is amazingly snappy (Even more than my fully rooted, ROM'd, custom kernel Galaxy Nexus), and the radios are much stronger than my Galaxy Nexus (A lot of times she will have 4G in buildings where I only have 1 or 2 bars of 3G). Also, the 3300 Mah battery is insane, it literally is a full day phone, usually she has 45% at the end of the day (She uses it a lot for pinterest, facebook, all that girly stuff). But, the main problem is that it does not have stock Android, and probably won't for a while. If that bothers you then go with the Galaxy Nexus otherwise this is definitely a great phone to have.
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Motorola is the only company that came out and said they wanted to be stock Android, but the carriers request the skins. That wins points in my books, and in all honesty it still looks closer to aosp than any other phone out there.
It all depends on what your looking for op. If you want great battery and build then this phone will be perfect. If you need the best camera or a removable battery, you might want to look elsewhere.
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Looked at getting it for a while, but decided on the SGS3 since it had a great camera and a removable battery.
I'm in the same boat. I like the razr because its as close to stock android you can get without being a nexus phone. Build quality and battery also look great. The one thing I'm concerned about is all the restrictions moto puts on their phone and the bloatware I'll have to remove once I root it.
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Razr buying or not?
Razr is a good phone i have tried it out and it works really well
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Bought the HD dev and waiting for it to arrive. Can't beat moto build quality and radio. Root is already available so you can freeze all the bloat easily. Aside from waiting for the quad core phones to arrive I think this is right with (if not above) the sgIII.
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I'm strongly considering the MAXX HD. the general reviews seem good, the guts seem fine... a few complaints about the software/bloatware, but that's why I come to XDA. If the MAXX HD will get a root/recovery/ROM situation that supports AOKP or CM10 or whatever... that's the key. The phone's preload would be immediately lobotomized upon delivery and I'd set up with a rooted ROM as I'm accustomed to!
So, I'll be intently watching all the threads in the Razr HD section (presumably which covers the new MAXX HD as well :silly: )
Glad this section of the forum is up and running. I will likely be switching from Sprint to Verizon soon and this phone is exactly what I want. I'm on the Sprint Galaxy S2 right now but really want to give a Moto phone a shot over a S3. I can't wait to read some more opinions in the next few weeks.
Just picked one up yesterday was kind of nervous being that I was coming from the fiasco that was Motorolas Droid 3 but I now have no regrets. Wifi is kinda choppy but not bad. They will probably fix it in the future
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Just ordered two from Simplexity online today. One HD - white for my wife and one Maxx HD for myself. They all got shipped out today and expect to arrive tomorrow afternoon. It is much better deal than local Verizon store and Costco. Cost me under $300 for two without tax. :laugh:
I cannot recommend the maxx enough. I'll take a huge sealed battery over a small removable battery any day. GS3 is nice hardware but I just can't get over the cheap feel and bloated UI of Samsung phones. A Ferrari engine in a Hyundai is still a Hyundai. I wanted the Ferrari design as well.
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I cannot recommend the maxx enough. I'll take a huge sealed battery over a small removable battery any day. GS3 is nice hardware but I just can't get over the cheap feel and bloated UI of Samsung phones. A Ferrari engine in a Hyundai is still a Hyundai. I wanted the Ferrari design as well.
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A Ferrari engine in a Hyundai would be one hell of a sleeper
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RAZR with a month, I feel very satisfied, after all, is not specifically Brush play, buy a mobile phone is bought with satisfaction like these mainstream flagship machine configuration is absolutely enough, which the machine's ROM will also gamewill have to see the landlord preferences.
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Um. What?
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orgalu said:
RAZR with a month, I feel very satisfied, after all, is not specifically Brush play, buy a mobile phone is bought with satisfaction like these mainstream flagship machine configuration is absolutely enough, which the machine's ROM will also gamewill have to see the landlord preferences.
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I totally agree that I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Paid $650 outright for my Maxx HD, I feel it was well spent. (Paid retail to keep my grandfathered unlimited data)
Coming from a Droid 2, the reception seems inferior, but it's hard to say at this point. Don't plan to return, but it will take another week or two to fully evaluate.
I've been away from my native north jersey at a conference in CA (4G everywhere, etc). Battery life is simply stunning, and responsiveness on ICS is amazing. Was running CM9 on my D2 and this is a huge step up. When you throw in the beautiful design, nice screen, and 4G capability, it's hard to find any reason not to buy this phone.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned anywhere (maybe it's fairly standard these days?): this phone has, or feels like it has, an LRA (linear resonant actuator) rather than your standard rotational vibrator. Haptic feedback feels excellent!
I'd strongly recommend this phone for anyone looking to buy or upgrade.
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I cannot recommend the maxx enough. I'll take a huge sealed battery over a small removable battery any day. GS3 is nice hardware but I just can't get over the cheap feel and bloated UI of Samsung phones. A Ferrari engine in a Hyundai is still a Hyundai. I wanted the Ferrari design as well.
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I replaced my S3 with the RAZR Max HD..better quality build including better radios
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Got my new Maxx HD. Love it! Activated!
I went and checked this out at Verizon today and was VERY surprised of how much I liked it!
The big knock for me was the 4.7 in screen making the phone way to big....My OG Razr Maxx w/ 4.3 in screen is about as big as I want to go...
However, when I compared it to my OG Razr....it was EXACTLY the same size and dimension....The difference was having LESS bezel and MORE screen! It's a good bit smaller the GS3
I did a quick speed test and got 24 MB/S vs 12 MB/s on my OG Razr.....I didnt think I would like the soft button interface but it actually was much different than expected and made navigating and using the phone MUCH easier....and ;ast but not least the whole interface with supper smooth!
Cant afford it atm....but jIm def getting one soon!!
Today I was offered an alternative replacement for my Samsung Galaxy S3 that I finally accepted, which ends up being the Razr HD. My S3 cannot make calls 50% of the time due to a NO SIM error message... and I really just wanted them to fix my phone, but after 1.5 months of making excuses why my phone doesn't work to friends, co-workers, bosses, it was time to move on. I do have a question for you all, does this device have NFC? The Motorola site does not list this as a feature of the phone, but other sites say it does. As a temp resolution Verizon sent me a Galaxy Nexus, which was nice of them. (although I have yet to see a real amazing upgrade over the touchwiz'd ICS on the S3) How are you guys enjoying the motoblur? Worth it to move to a new ROM, or stick with stock?
Thanks, in advance!
Hello,
I got the regular (Droid) RAZR XT910 from Rogers and now they're offering me a deal to upgrade to a new phone for (nearly) free.
So far, i'm loving my XT910 even if Moto broke my heart back then after releasing the MAXX since my biggest pet peeve is the battery life... but other than that (and the "ok" screen) it's a great phone! nice and thin, the way i like it.
But few months ago RAZR HD is out and it seems to fix everything I loath from XT910... and I was drooling over it. But now? Not so sure.
So would anyone recommend for or against me upgrading to RAZR HD at this point of the year? Or anyone can recommend another phone? (no, we don't get RAZR HD MAXX here in Canada)(but we do have Galaxy SIII...)(..or iPhone5)
Thanks!
You love the razr ? your really love the razr hd !
Samsung Galaxy S3 is a great device.... but call quality and RF ( signal ) is not good as the RAZR HD ...
Galaxy S3 have many roms ... Razr HD is limited for the moment ... but Razr HD have the bootloader unlocked !
Galaxy S3 if you use the stock rom have touchwiz ... i really don't like !
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Galaxy S3 have many roms ... Razr HD is limited for the moment ... but Razr HD have the bootloader unlocked !
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it does??
also, CES is out today. Tegra 4 announced. Should i just wait a few more months?
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it does??
also, CES is out today. Tegra 4 announced. Should i just wait a few more months?
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It's always good if you can wait... I have been in same situation and finally decided to get the Razr HD. Technology is always evolving.. and trust me whatever phone you buy, it will be outdated in few months. So imo.. Go check Razr HD in the store.. if you really like it.. go for it.
Thanks! Last question, is the Rogers version has jelly Bean yet?
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R3dbeaver said:
Thanks! Last question, is the Rogers version has jelly Bean yet?
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Hey Buddy,
I helped out in the RAZR forum for a while... I'm still helping out there of course but I totally recommend the RAZR HD. This is a very nice phone and the battery life is amazing. Coming from a Droid 4 (which had the same size battery as a RAZR OG) this battery lasts me an entire day with what I consider abuse (excess usage), yesterday I really killed it (spent time in a movie theatre and a comedy club, where there is 0 signal) and I still ended up down to around 19%.
The UI is great, and the phone is much smoother than any OMAP processor devices I've ever used.
Saying that, you might want to wait I always change my phones like once a year anyways; but this is the first phone that I've purchased (on Rogers) since I've went Android, and the HD interface is really beautiful. The Jelly Bean upgrade is just around the corner, I think it will be dropping later this month according to Rogers, and I have a feeling there will be a much larger development community built here since the bootloader is a straightforward unlock, which means I might not jump ship on the entire device once Moto stops making updates for it.
If I could change one thing in the phone, it would be the amount of memory as I would have thrown in 2GB RAM, to ensure it can run the next version of Android, but either way this phone is awesome.
Im due for an upgrade in May, and im debating between the Moto X and the S5 (sadly, i dont see the Z2 coming to ATT, ever) and i was wondering for those who owned one, if you thought it was still worth it. Any opinion is appreciated.
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For me, absolutely. I went as far as to buy a second Dev edition in case I ever break mine. If you're a power user, it might not be for you because of the dual core or lower clock speed. Also if you're a bit of a flashaholic, not much development going on. However most of us who own the device think things like active display and touchless controls outweigh the downsides (by miles in my opinion). No one can tell you if you'll like the phone, I suggest getting your hands on one to see if you even like these features before you make a decision.
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StATicxTW0T said:
For me, absolutely. I went as far as to buy a second Dev edition in case I ever break mine. If you're a power user, it might not be for you because of the dual core or lower clock speed. Also if you're a bit of a flashaholic, not much development going on. However most of us who own the device think things like active display and touchless controls outweigh the downsides (by miles in my opinion). No one can tell you if you'll like the phone, I suggest getting your hands on one to see if you even like these features before you make a decision.
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Personally, i used to be a flashaholic, but since nov/dec, ive really settled on the google edition stock htc one rom, which is pretty close to the moto x rom if im correct; so the lack of develepment, while dissapointing, is not reason for me to shy away. I have played with a moto x a couple months ago at my local costco, but thats not as good as having one untethered and really able to mess around with. The idea of the wood backs, active notifications, insane battery life, supreme radio performance, and small form factor are the factors that pull me to it. Everyone who has/had one seems to say they love it, and im betting i really would too.
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Toxicoblivion said:
Personally, i used to be a flashaholic, but since nov/dec, ive really settled on the google edition stock htc one rom, which is pretty close to the moto x rom if im correct; so the lack of develepment, while dissapointing, is not reason for me to shy away. I have played with a moto x a couple months ago at my local costco, but thats not as good as having one untethered and really able to mess around with. The idea of the wood backs, active notifications, insane battery life, supreme radio performance, and small form factor are the factors that pull me to it. Everyone who has/had one seems to say they love it, and im betting i really would too.
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If you want all of Samsung's bloat and gimmicky features plus Samsung Knox just to get the "better specs" I'd say go for the gs5. If you look at the at&t note 3 forums especially the development section they don't have much development going on either because of Samsung knox. You want a great phone that's has everyday usefulness go moto x but don't get the carrier branded moto x get the Dev edition. But if you can wait several months the moto x2 might be out.
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the moto x is truly wonderful, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be better.
i would personally wait for the moto x 2.
or the Z2 for that matter, if it does make it to ATT.
the special features are really nice, but i don't feel like its enough of an upgrade over the HTC one.
the camera is pretty mediocre, and so is the screen. the speakers obviously would not be as impressive.
battery would be about the same.
the Z2 on the other hand would improve in many aspects over the One.
so i would wait for the new moto x so you get your moneys worth instead of side-stepping, which might have you dissapointed with your X the minute the new X comes out.
I should also note that i would only really have it for 6 monthsish. I also have an upgrade in december, so yeah.
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well then if you want to try something new go for the moto x, if you really want an all out upgrade, as much as i'm not really interested in the device, the S5 is a better upgrade.
the only thing the moto x has going for it against the S5 is the form factor and the active display honestly (which is pretty awesome but still feasible on the S5 which also has a LED display).
I love the moto x but given your choice i would probably opt for the galaxy 5 and wait for december for the new motorola, whatever it will be.
the galaxy will have a much better camera, performance, battery, display, micro sd slot, removable battery, water and dust protection, some nice features, and as far as i can tell will also have always listening mode (which was available in the note 3, so should be on the S5)
probably have better wifi reception and connectivity also.
the only downside would be the touchwiz rom, which has honestly gotten much better than the days of the S2 (i still don't like it though).
however, this is going to probably be the most popular android phone and thus will have the largest dev community, you can expect to have an AOSP rom in no time to solve that issue.
I really like both of my moto x's. I don't flash roms with the moto x like I have with other phones in the past. I feel like it is well balanced for us who like to mod and also for normal users. My wife has the regular white moto x coming from a iphone 4s and she loves it. Personally I would save the upgrade, and buy a barely used moto x on swappa.
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I really like both of my moto x's. I don't flash roms with the moto x like I have with other phones in the past. I feel like it is well balanced for us who like to mod and also for normal users. My wife has the regular white moto x coming from a iphone 4s and she loves it. Personally I would save the upgrade, and buy a barely used moto x on swappa.
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Do you know for about how much that would cost?
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Toxicoblivion said:
Do you know for about how much that would cost?
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Here is a link to the at&t moto x on swappa. I've seen good deals on there.
http://swappa.com/buy/moto-x-att/us
guybanda said:
well then if you want to try something new go for the moto x, if you really want an all out upgrade, as much as i'm not really interested in the device, the S5 is a better upgrade.
the only thing the moto x has going for it against the S5 is the form factor and the active display honestly (which is pretty awesome but still feasible on the S5 which also has a LED display).
I love the moto x but given your choice i would probably opt for the galaxy 5 and wait for december for the new motorola, whatever it will be.
the galaxy will have a much better camera, performance, battery, display, micro sd slot, removable battery, water and dust protection, some nice features, and as far as i can tell will also have always listening mode (which was available in the note 3, so should be on the S5)
probably have better wifi reception and connectivity also.
the only downside would be the touchwiz rom, which has honestly gotten much better than the days of the S2 (i still don't like it though).
however, this is going to probably be the most popular android phone and thus will have the largest dev community, you can expect to have an AOSP rom in no time to solve that issue.
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This is probably one of the best responses i could have read. Everybody mentions the new moto phone, but is that even confirmed? And i had an S3 that i modded the hell out of, but i was never really thrilled with it. Its a very important choice, but its nice to see such a good review like this. I promise to keep this all in mind as i make my choice in the next 2 months. thank you sir!
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For those who made custom Moto X's, has any gotten the wood backs/ does anyone know how well they stand up to heat? (Up to 110°F and down to 40°F) Does the back warp or does it stay solid in its form factor?
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My ebony back looks great. Been rolling naked even.
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My ebony back looks great. Been rolling naked even.
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How does it stand up to heat changes? Any warping?
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Nope. Hardly a scratch though I use a leather pouch. Hardly heats up though. Only when playing games.
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Toxicoblivion said:
Personally, i used to be a flashaholic, but since nov/dec, ive really settled on the google edition stock htc one rom, which is pretty close to the moto x rom if im correct; so the lack of develepment, while dissapointing, is not reason for me to shy away. I have played with a moto x a couple months ago at my local costco, but thats not as good as having one untethered and really able to mess around with. The idea of the wood backs, active notifications, insane battery life, supreme radio performance, and small form factor are the factors that pull me to it. Everyone who has/had one seems to say they love it, and im betting i really would too.
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I can't speak for the X, but the Maxx is wonderful. I get like 8+ hours of screen on regularly over about 36 hours. I wish it had an IR blaster, but it's not a deal breaker. It's smoother than my S4 is. Especially when updating apps. The s4 will lag while doing that but the Maxx doesn't. Just my 0.02
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Nope. Hardly a scratch though I use a leather pouch. Hardly heats up though. Only when playing games.
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Awesome! Thanks! Glad to hear!
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The s5 may be difficult to root I'm guessing and development may be quiet. I'd get an unlockable x personally.
The s5 will be marginally better than the s4 and has touchwiz. Ewwww.
Plus the x can be got just over 300, the s5 will be 700+. Notttttt worth the price difference.
IMO.
I'll add this....Samsung, aside from camera, will never match the quality of the moto x.
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StATicxTW0T said:
For me, absolutely. I went as far as to buy a second Dev edition in case I ever break mine. If you're a power user, it might not be for you because of the dual core or lower clock speed. Also if you're a bit of a flashaholic, not much development going on. However most of us who own the device think things like active display and touchless controls outweigh the downsides (by miles in my opinion). No one can tell you if you'll like the phone, I suggest getting your hands on one to see if you even like these features before you make a decision.
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The GSM/T-Mobile version -- Model # 1053 -- is also a attractive option. Its sim unlocked / unbranded / no bloatware and, unlike the developer edition, it can use the Moto Maker design options. I had both an AT&T version and the GSM version, and ended up selling the AT&T phone. The GSM received the 4.4.2 update weeks ago, but still waiting for the AT&T phone update. Can also tether on AT&T without any special AT&T plan.
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The s5 may be difficult to root I'm guessing and development may be quiet. I'd get an unlockable x personally.
The s5 will be marginally better than the s4 and has touchwiz. Ewwww.
Plus the x can be got just over 300, the s5 will be 700+. Notttttt worth the price difference.
IMO.
I'll add this....Samsung, aside from camera, will never match the quality of the moto x.
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Yeah know 2.0 might a deal breaker for some people. Helluva an upgrade for peeps coming from s3. Hardly an upgrade from s4. Does seem like it is highest quality galaxy s so far. The camera so far looms great in low light but can't vouche for it til consumers get it. Still kind of disappointing though. It better get spectacular battery life or something.
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