Task killing to much! - Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot

I know this is contrary but there are certain apps I don't want killed ever by Samsung gs4...I have tried developer options to keep 4 processes open but still not what I'm looking for. .. anybody offer suggestions? Example would like to keep running mate apps open while running long periods. ..
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Memory Enhancement

Is there something that will provide an enhancement to memory usage on a dinc that requires root. Like preventing apps from automatically running in background. Tired of using a task killer when memory gets down to very low levels.
Maybe a Rom that's efficient at doing this.
Anyone have any ideas?
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I think Autokiller is what you're looking for.
KGBxxx said:
Is there something that will provide an enhancement to memory usage on a dinc that requires root. Like preventing apps from automatically running in background. Tired of using a task killer when memory gets down to very low levels.
Maybe a Rom that's efficient at doing this.
Anyone have any ideas?
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I use Autostarts for this.
nstavr said:
I use Autostarts for this.
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+1 on autostarts. Instead of killing your apps, autostarts prevents them from starting.
And why do you need to kill these apps? Have they tried to injure you?
Seriously... you probably don't need to kill them unless one of them is acting up. The phone will free up memory as you need it.
Those look good. I'll try them out and see what works better.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/fine-tuning-minfree-settings-improving-androids-multi-tasking
I haven't any of this, but maybe it will help you
I know the phone will free up memory as needed but I'm ocd about it and hate that at times it gets down below 40 and bogs the phone down. Tired of seeing apps start up by themselves. I used titanium to freeze apps but now don't remember what's frozen and what's installed on my system. Need something automatic and easier to maintain.
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K_flan that link is great. The guy understand where I'm coming from.
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KGBxxx said:
K_flan that link is great. The guy understand where I'm coming from.
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Awesome, I'm glad it may help... I just downloaded minfreemanager myself
Edit: only bad thing is changes are lost at reboot just using minfreemanager
KGBxxx said:
I know the phone will free up memory as needed but I'm ocd about it and hate that at times it gets down below 40 and bogs the phone down. Tired of seeing apps start up by themselves. I used titanium to freeze apps but now don't remember what's frozen and what's installed on my system. Need something automatic and easier to maintain.
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Autokiller does exactly what you are asking for...

App killers and battery life

I used to have advanced app killer and used to manually kill apps like crazy, but then I read that they actually hurt daily battery life. Do you guys still use them? It sucks to manually go into settings to stop apps. Discuss.
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og954 said:
I used to have advanced app killer and used to manually kill apps like crazy, but then I read that they actually hurt daily battery life. Do you guys still use them? It sucks to manually go into settings to stop apps. Discuss.
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They are counterproductive with the new versions of Android.
Use watch dog to monitor for "misbehaving apps"
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I have used Watchdog since I got my phone. It has twice alerted me that the browser was using extra cpus. It gives an option to kill the app right there so I did and everything was cool. Nice app.
1+ watchdog task killers were needed back in the day with 2.0 and below but android handles it pretty well nowadays
I only use it after boot up, but after that I only use it if I start getting lag.
Agreed. Avanced task killer and similar apps are rubish now days. Watchdog is Great because it alerts you about apps using top many resources.
New users and sales people tend to assume android uses ram like a computer does; the more free ram the beter. Android keeps certain apps available in ram so that its faster to open it you when needed. If the system requires more ram to function it will remove unused apps from memory.
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Thanks for the watchdog recommendation. I checked out the app in the market place and it looks pretty cool. So you guys use no app killers at all?
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i've with and without task killer, i always get longer battery life with, and have never had any issue's with using it.
No app killers period for me.

Program Like Backgrounder for Android?

i'm new to android. on IOS there is a cydia app called "backgrounder". i loved it because it let me redefine multitasking rules for certain programs. for example, for most programs, i made it so that the OS kills the program anytime i exit using the home button. now is there such a program for android that would let em do this? i don't want to have to manually kill app everytime, i want to make the OS do it by itself for the programs i specify.
google searches say no, but i'm still optimistic so if anyone knows, please reply.
Android does a great job of managing running applications, there is no need to kill them. If you do the app will just have to reload your battery life would go down. Also the nexus 4 has 2gb of ram. That will easily handle multitasking
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I have a question. Why? This isn't an iPhone. You have 2 GB RAM. Let the OS do it's thing. If you're really worried about it, use an app like Auto Memory Manager to make the OS more agressive.
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
estallings15 said:
I have a question. Why? This isn't an iPhone. You have 2 GB RAM. Let the OS do it's thing. If you're really worried about it, use an app like Auto Memory Manager to make the OS more agressive.
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
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not all apps in background are inactive though, some are actively running in the background and using resources/wasting battery life. i should not be worried about this?
You can do it straight on the phone under the development options in settings. You have to go into settings first and then phone info and tap on the build number until the tells you that you're a developer now. Then go into developer options and scroll down to apps. From there you can set it to do what you want.
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jinjin12 said:
not all apps in background are inactive though, some are actively running in the background and using resources/wasting battery life. i should not be worried about this?
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Using more ram doesn't drain battery. Most multitasked apps that aren't services don't even waste battery since they are put into hibernate
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hey dude checkout gemini app manager lets u turnoff autorun on those background apps!
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Qualcomm BatteryGuru vs. Greenify

Can't sleep tonight so just researching apps this morning. Have you guys or gals used either? Do you recommend one over the other?
BatteryGuru is officially made by Qualcomm so you would expect it to be pretty key to phone optimisation. Also it didn't require root.
Greenify had received many great reviews and the author is constantly updating which is good. Requires root however.
Thanks!
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Greenify here and happy
I'm running battery guru and it works quite well, it'll take about 5 days to give you some savings, but it works. I'm way more impressed then I ever though I'd be...
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Using Greenify, works great.
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Thanks guys, I appreciate the feedback. I'm testing Snapdragon BatteryGuru so far but still learning and will let you know how it helps. Scared to root yet!
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Khalsa4G said:
Thanks guys, I appreciate the feedback. I'm testing Snapdragon BatteryGuru so far but still learning and will let you know how it helps. Scared to root yet!
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No real reason to be scared to root any more. We have the stock images in case you soft brick, boot loop, etc. I was worried to, but it was an extremely simple and quick root process. You just plug in the phone and your rooted after a couple mouse clicks
Also, I recommend freezing the ota applications in TiBu. Never know when at&t may send an OTA that could patch the boot loader exploit. Better be safe than sorry with this one.
Sorry to drag the thread off topic. Just thought I would throw in my $.02 after your comment on rooting. Best of luck
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How does that greenify app work? Say you select all your apps, and then it hibernates them does it wake up when needed or if you get a message or notification?
The app specifically says not to enable apps that have certain notifications such as SMS and whatnot, so I would make sure that you don't do it to apps that you need to be notified.
SysAdmNj said:
How does that greenify app work? Say you select all your apps, and then it hibernates them does it wake up when needed or if you get a message or notification?
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They will wake up when you open them, then hibernate when you close them. Basically if you use it for all apps expect to not mulitask at all (looking at messages, wont recieve phone calls; looking at Internet, wont recieve SMS)
If you have to use either one you don't know how to save your battery. Get better battery stats and learn what is causing your battery drain. These apps only use battery.
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jd1639 said:
If you have to use either one you don't know how to save your battery. Get better battery stats and learn what is causing your battery drain. These apps only use battery.
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Greenify uses a lot less battery then tons of bad apps running. I like using Facebook app but couldn't careless about the notifications and such. Yes I coukd go in and stop them but not all apps let me (cnet for example) so having a single place to hibernate the apps I dont want running in the background is nice.

Best autokill app

Hey guys
Does anyone know what the best auto kill app is for the i9505. I'm tired of having to swipe background processes away all the time. There must be an app for this that actually works.
Any ideas on this guy's?
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scientificharmony said:
Hey guys
Does anyone know what the best auto kill app is for the i9505. I'm tired of having to swipe background processes away all the time. There must be an app for this that actually works.
Any ideas on this guy's?
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None imho. You don`t realy need them and certain apps just will reboot themselves.
You could try Greenify
None ... free ram is wasted ram ... let android autokill them if needed .. the only ones u need to close mostly for battery life reasons are those who stay active and u can easily monitor those with the preinstalled widget ...
scientificharmony said:
Hey guys
Does anyone know what the best auto kill app is for the i9505. I'm tired of having to swipe background processes away all the time. There must be an app for this that actually works.
Any ideas on this guy's?
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The best is the operating system itself. This isn't a Windows PC where you need to have free ram as overhead in order to operate. Android will kill cached processes as required to efficiently carry out currently active processes.
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