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Today I had the worst surprise ever! I was playing with my SGS for around 2h straight on internet.
suddenly the phone went off. It was burning up. It drained the entire battery(it was full). I had to wait for half an hour before being able to turn it on.when I managed to turn it on the phone had wiped my settings and could not connect to the cartier network. I went to my store and they changed it for a new one.
Dit it happen to anyone else? Now I have to instal everything again.
alijones said:
Today I had the worst surprise ever! I was playing with my SGS for around 2h straight on internet.
suddenly the phone went off. It was burning up. It drained the entire battery(it was full). I had to wait for half an hour before being able to turn it on.when I managed to turn it on the phone had wiped my settings and could not connect to the cartier network. I went to my store and they changed it for a new one.
Dit it happen to anyone else? Now I have to instal everything again.
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To be honest: It hardly comes as a surprise to me, playing two hours straight over the internet (what kind of game was it anyways?) over WLAN or APN would heat up the Galaxy Really fast. Burning up would mean about 45°-50° C
Limality said:
To be honest: It hardly comes as a surprise to me, playing two hours straight over the internet (what kind of game was it anyways?) over WLAN or APN would heat up the Galaxy Really fast. Burning up would mean about 45°-50° C
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Nah, I've played 3d games with wifi and everything on for more than 2 hours on the SGS with no issues. Sounds to me like his device was very faulty to begin with (or he is just trolling - more likely).
The lady plays games on mine for hours at a time regularly, often only stops because she's drained the battery. Never had any issues with it though.
RyanZA said:
Nah, I've played 3d games with wifi and everything on for more than 2 hours on the SGS with no issues. Sounds to me like his device was very faulty to begin with (or he is just trolling - more likely).
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TravUK said:
The lady plays games on mine for hours at a time regularly, often only stops because she's drained the battery. Never had any issues with it though.
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Must be some faulty hardware then...
I was not even playing 3D games. Just downloading some apps from market and reading threads on XDA. Can you come up with a reason why it overheated with two hors of internet browsing?
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I was not even playing 3D games. Just downloading some apps from market and reading threads on XDA. Can you come up with a reason why it overheated with two hors of internet browsing?
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Maybe you have a duff battery. The phone may be made in Korea, but the battery comes from China
common causes:
1. bad battery
2. connected to AC adapter
3. environment temp over 35c
4. humidity of the environment
5. you got sweaty hands/dripping sweat drops into device
The galaxy can get VERY hot.I'm
Very surprised by the levels of excessive heat from it...
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it's the same for other cell phones, my old HTC Athena, gets really burning hot to the hand when used for a long time doing WiFi or 3G or GPS
Many people have had this issue and i am going to put down the facts here.
The GMS radio in the x10 is not.. great.
It suffers in low signal area's lets say 1 to 2 bars of signal or lets say about -80 to -108dB and lower.
It requires alot more juice from the battery and that causes overheating then after a time chipset death.
This is all based on tests done at home.. i contacted my provider and had a petition signed, they fixed the tower and the issue's with my phone's heat are gone!
Now that i have full signal strength the device has no heat or battery issue's at home.
The other problem you can face is only if you flash firmware with a baseband or a separate baseband.
Many times the baseband may not settle correctly.. this will lead to severe heat, restarts, laggs or even chipset death.
Sometimes the baseband will not even be compatible.
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the third problem that i am adding here and almost forgot about...
Charging while under any or even both of these conditions... can be catastrophic.
As sometimes the modem uses so much energy while the INTERNET is in usage that it cannot hold the charge.
There by cuasing major heat.. and you can guess where that will end up.
Switching to 2G instead of 3G can help ALOT, but in some cases this will end badly
As you will get very slow speeds and that causes downloads to be pathetic slow
and even more prone to bad downloads due to the bad signal quality.
The other case may be that you have the dreaded chipset of DEATH if you get above 45*C it's a good chance you have this horrid chipset.
Have it replaced by SE.
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All of my theories have been properly tested and recreated and fixed to ensure that this info is correct.
Before you call me insane or retarded... test it first!!!
http://talk.sonyericsson.com/message/130419#130419 < my theory proven.
Nice find there!
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shahkam said:
Nice find there!
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I spent alot of time on this.. one motherboard and a battery later i found the culprits.
OmegaRED^ said:
Many people have had this issue and i am going to put down the facts here.
The GMS radio in the x10 is not.. great.
It suffers in low signal area's lets say 1 to 2 bars of signal or lets say about -80 to -108dB and lower.
It requires alot more juice from the battery and that causes overheating then after a time chipset death.
This is all based on tests done at home.. i contacted my provider and had a petition signed, they fixed the tower and the issue's with my phone's heat are gone!
Now that i have full signal strength the device has no heat or battery issue's at home.
The other problem you can face is only if you flash firmware with a baseband or a separate baseband.
Many times the baseband may not settle correctly.. this will lead to severe heat, restarts, laggs or even chipset death.
All of my theories have been properly tested and recreated and fixed to ensure that this info is correct.
Before you call me insane or retarded... test it first!!!
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You may very well be right on the issue of the GSM radio but..... Some earlier X10's were a lot more susceptible to this issue. My first X10 burned out in about 3 months and ran warm all the time, but in standby the replacement rarely gets warm unless I'm in a fringe area that only has edge coverage.
Anyway you don't know what a hot phone is until you've used the HTC Dream. At times you can almost cook eggs on it
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You may very well be right on the issue of the GSM radio but..... Some earlier X10's were a lot more susceptible to this issue. My first X10 burned out in about 3 months and ran warm all the time, but in standby the replacement rarely gets warm unless I'm in a fringe area that only has edge coverage.
Anyway you don't know what a hot phone is until you've used the HTC Dream. At times you can almost cook eggs on it
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So true, but i have been seeing more and more reports of this issue.
And would like to simply give a solid answer to this.
This was not meant as a complaint, but more as a answer so as to end the scourge of that question once and for all.
A overheat that ends in a damaged device = a serious issue.
No worries here
I bought my x10 in march 2010, about a week or 2 after it become available in my country. And I must say that I never had any problems with it, except what all experienced with 1.6 version (slow, laggy, few small bugs).
Overheating was not an issue, even when I upgraded to 2.1 and recently to TripNMiUI (awesome rom btw). Only time I had problems was when I searched for the right rom flashed the wrong file and almost messed up my device.
The battery was above 40°C and went to 10% in like 3 hours Now about that GMS thing... at work I have almost all the time 2 bars of signal (see attachment, was at work from 5am to 2pm) the red bar is 1, orange 2, yellow 3....
and blue lines you see is when its scanning. Sometimes I lose signal for maybe 1 or 2 hours (and that sux) But I cant show you phone temp (dont know how), but it is almost never above 30°C , except when I play games and I do quite a lot
So after more than a year I still have original battery and lasts for 3 days tops, but usually its around day and a half. And I love my X10
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I bought my x10 in march 2010, about a week or 2 after it become available in my country. And I must say that I never had any problems with it, except what all experienced with 1.6 version (slow, laggy, few small bugs).
Overheating was not an issue, even when I upgraded to 2.1 and recently to TripNMiUI (awesome rom btw). Only time I had problems was when I searched for the right rom flashed the wrong file and almost messed up my device.
The battery was above 40°C and went to 10% in like 3 hours Now about that GMS thing... at work I have almost all the time 2 bars of signal (see attachment, was at work from 5am to 2pm) the red bar is 1, orange 2, yellow 3....
and blue lines you see is when its scanning. Sometimes I lose signal for maybe 1 or 2 hours (and that sux) But I cant show you phone temp (dont know how), but it is almost never above 30°C , except when I play games and I do quite a lot
So after more than a year I still have original battery and lasts for 3 days tops, but usually its around day and a half. And I love my X10
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It depends.. the heat is mostly created from using the GSM radio in these conditions. such as online usage.
Games are not the problem unless they make constant heavy use of the internet.
Also what was the ambient temperature when you are testing?
Well I do play cestos, and was playing pocket legends, both require constant internet connection. But the temperature still didn't go above 35 (was quite warm). You mean rom testing? I mostly try out the nearly finished roms, so never had any issues with rom functionality or temperature. Except when I tried z's alpha kernel. Then it was around 33-38°C. Now that I think about it when I'm flashing new rom it always goes above 30, but after some time drops down.
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Well I do play cestos, and was playing pocket legends, both require constant internet connection. But the temperature still didn't go above 35 (was quite warm). You mean rom testing? I mostly try out the nearly finished roms, so never had any issues with rom functionality or temperature. Except when I tried z's alpha kernel.
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Dude.. i'm taking about the stock 2.1 rom.
WB CM 3.16 v6 did me help alot.
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Now that I think about it when I'm flashing new rom it always goes above 30, but after some time drops down.
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Yeah thats the BB settling in nicely.. sometimes a few restarts or even the "white led of WTF crash" seems to sort it out.
averagely my phone will idle at 30 to 35*C but in usage it can climb above 40*c often.
My old motherboard reached a record High of 57*C just playing "robo defence" or even Hawx...
But here's one more test for you.
Once you need to charge plug it in and start using the internet for about 20 mins in a low signal area and watch that battery drain and the heat go thru the roof.
I never had this issue and i only get 1 to 2 bars only and it never went above 34 which is cool. Dunno about u guys but the only way i can overheat the phone is when playing heavy gunner and listening to music at the same time and the battery heat reaches 38 and it still works 100% with no trouble.
VIPER
viper619 said:
I never had this issue and i only get 1 to 2 bars only and it never went above 34 which is cool. Dunno about u guys but the only way i can overheat the phone is when playing heavy gunner and listening to music at the same time and the battery heat reaches 38 and it still works 100% with no trouble.
VIPER
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Read it properly... i made a few edits just now to the first post.
These days on WB's rom.. i can play quake 2 death match online "with stencil shadows enabled" while listening to dimmu borgir" with no issue's..
but if i was on stock 2.1 or even the old motherboard.. forget about it.
And trust me many do have this issue.
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Before you call me insane or retarded... test it first!!!
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Lol u just reminded me of the good old days when our old physics teacher used to call us " u buys are mentaly retarded, u think urself superman to get electrified, albert eineshtein was an idiot, i'm better than him, u listen to me not to his equations, if not u fail, i know dark matter very well better than nasa, u mentaly retarded creatures, u fools, IDIOTS."
And about the dark matter thingy, he has a very dark black skin so i guess he knows dark matter better.
Am not a discriminant, i'm too slightly black
VIPER
My phone overheated only once when i baught it and the temp reached 47. But i had to send it to repairs for the broken usb connecter, maybe they fixed that issue.
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Lol u just reminded me of the good old days when our old physics teacher used to call us " u buys are mentaly retarded, u think urself superman to get electrified, albert eineshtein was an idiot, i'm better than him, u listen to me not to his equations, if not u fail, i know dark matter very well better than nasa, u mentaly retarded creatures, u fools, IDIOTS."
And about the dark matter thingy, he has a very dark black skin so i know he knows dark matter better.
Am not a discriminant, i'm too slightly black
VIPER
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LMAO.. truly a wise and insane man.. ^_^
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Dude.. i'm taking about the stock 2.1 rom.
WB CM 3.16 v6 did me help alot.
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and how many ppl are still running stock 2.1? Everyone who is smart enough will go for custom roms/mods. they are all much better than stock no disrespect, just sayin
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The GMS radio in the x10 is not.. great.
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That's the same conclusion I came to.
When I was using the internet, my battery temp shot up and the phone would restart at 41-42 degrees (stock 1.6)
I got the motherboard replaced under warranty and I've never had a problem with it since
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and how many ppl are still running stock 2.1? Everyone who is smart enough will go for custom roms/mods. they are all much better than stock no disrespect, just sayin
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But it still has a effect on the phone.
But how many of us still flash roms or basebands?
Some versions of the board are way more unstable.. to be honest you have the most stable x10 i have seen out of the 13 i have seen here around me.
Also.. did you do the charging stress test?
It's more than just a single simple issue such as heat, it effects the battery life. "when the radio has to boost the signal"
And to be honest out of all of my phone this is the only one that loves to often drop my calls in bad conditions.
noob question coming: how do u do charging stress test? is this something like you test how long the battery lasts?
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noob question coming: how do u do charging stress test? is this something like you test how long the battery lasts?
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I posted it earlier.. lol. no problem.
Just go to a area with bad signal "low as in 1 to 2 bars", wait till the battery is getting low.
Start charging it and then use the "market or anything that constantly uses the radio and cpu" constantly for about 20mins while charging.
Watch the heat go up and the battery go down.
Also please note that if the ambient heat is very low then your phone should be reading much lower..
Not all of us get snow on this planet, some of us get heat stroke in the winter.
will try at work tomorrow, since i always get bad signal there.
Since last week I am experiencing a really strange behavior of my battery.
Sometimes my phone (in a random app) just vibrates, the screen goes black and then it reboots. After the reboot I have lost 40-50% battery life. Sometimes the phones isn't even able to complete the reboot because it spontaneously has too little power left. See attached screenshots.
Has anybody had similar problems? Or knows a solution?
About my setup: The problem seems to be not rom or kernel related. It occurs no matter what rom or kernel setting I am using. Currently I am running coool boy's 4.3 GE witch KT's kernel (no OC or UV).
Is it possible that the battery is physically damaged? I have NO IDEA...
Experiencing the same problem. I've flashed back to stock and still experiencing this. Phone randomly turning off, not starting, sudden battery drops. Driving me crazy.
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This looks pretty strange 0.o
Consider buying a new recovery
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I've seen the same sort of graph on my old i9000. You're not gonna like this, but it got worse over time, and eventually my battery wouldn't last more than 5 mins. I thought buying a new battery would help, but it didn't. When I sent it in to Samsung they said they would have to replace the entire motherboard...
I think it's got something to do with the motherboard not being able to correctly sense the battery voltage/whatever/%. The phone reboots automatically because it thinks the battery is flat (even though it isn't).
If you're under warranty I suggest sending it in soon... Hopefully it's not the same as what I had heh.
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I've seen the same sort of graph on my old i9000. You're not gonna like this, but it got worse over time, and eventually my battery wouldn't last more than 5 mins. I thought buying a new battery would help, but it didn't. When I sent it in to Samsung they said they would have to replace the entire motherboard...
I think it's got something to do with the motherboard not being able to correctly sense the battery voltage/whatever/%. The phone reboots automatically because it thinks the battery is flat (even though it isn't).
If you're under warranty I suggest sending it in soon... Hopefully it's not the same as what I had heh.
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Well *#!$
I'll observate it for the next few days and see if it's getting worse...
If your phone is rebooting as opposed to just powering off, then I suspect it is hardware related (motherboard) as already mentioned.
I do hope I'm wrong though.
Maybe try using it for extended periods while plugged into a charger and see what happens. If it doesn't reboot then it may just be the battery.
Right as OP I'm suffering the same exact problem or there abouts. I've flashed back to stock rom, fully charged to 100% drained to 0% back to 100% yet still phone keeps shutting off randomly and the only way it works properly is with the charger plugged in. It's escalated quite badly with now after a few mins of YouTube turning itself off and not rebooting. I've requested a repair by o2 who I'm in contract with and see what will happen. I've heard crap stories about their repairs before taking it to Samsung.
I9500 owner. Had this exact same problem when using older firmware. After updating to the latest one, never had this issue again. Its been two months now, even more.
Try this. Flash the latest available firmware for you phone, not talking about OTA but the downloadable one from any region (whichever is latest for i9505). I guess it may have something to do with the kernel too.
Edit: wait a minute, why is your battery level going up when it isn't even charging in the second screenshot. Middle of the battery timeline. That's weird. I guess you should send the phone back
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Its a hardware issue(motherboard).I hope your under warranty.Best of luck .
i have something strange like that also on my device ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409284
Thank you guys :good:
In the last few days the problem occurred more often. But now it is just shutting down (no reboot after vibrate) and after plugging it to the charger and restarting it sometimes I haven't lost any battery. Strange!
I fear there is nothing else to do than turning it in (warranty)
E_Cartman said:
Thank you guys :good:
In the last few days the problem occurred more often. But now it is just shutting down (no reboot after vibrate) and after plugging it to the charger and restarting it sometimes I haven't lost any battery. Strange!
I fear there is nothing else to do than turning it in (warranty)
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Same problem here. It started three days ago and today I'm barely able to use it... I'm still on warraty and I even have insurance, but it's a major inconvenience anyway.
Mines gone in for repair back to my carrier still no movement despite them having it for 2 days now really should have sent it back to Samsung directly. Will keep you guys posted.
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Will send it in tomorrow. Lady on the hotline told me apparently the motherboard is defect and I'll get a new S4. Exchange, no repair. I'm fine with that...
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That's good to hear, just inconvenience but at least you won't have to pay for it (or have the defect materialize a year later or something)
E_Cartman said:
Since last week I am experiencing a really strange behavior of my battery.
Sometimes my phone (in a random app) just vibrates, the screen goes black and then it reboots. After the reboot I have lost 40-50% battery life. Sometimes the phones isn't even able to complete the reboot because it spontaneously has too little power left. See attached screenshots.
Has anybody had similar problems? Or knows a solution?
About my setup: The problem seems to be not rom or kernel related. It occurs no matter what rom or kernel setting I am using. Currently I am running coool boy's 4.3 GE witch KT's kernel (no OC or UV).
Is it possible that the battery is physically damaged? I have NO IDEA...
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Experiencing the same problem. I've flashed back to stock and still experiencing this. Phone randomly turning off, not starting, sudden battery drops. Driving me crazy.
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nikzDHD said:
Right as OP I'm suffering the same exact problem or there abouts. I've flashed back to stock rom, fully charged to 100% drained to 0% back to 100% yet still phone keeps shutting off randomly and the only way it works properly is with the charger plugged in. It's escalated quite badly with now after a few mins of YouTube turning itself off and not rebooting. I've requested a repair by o2 who I'm in contract with and see what will happen. I've heard crap stories about their repairs before taking it to Samsung.
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Its a hardware issue(motherboard).I hope your under warranty.Best of luck .
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Hey
I am new here.
but i was looking for information becuase my s4 9505i has the same problem
shuts of almost everytime i open apps too quickly or stream youtube or some other high usage apps etc.
battery drops up to 50 percent then back 40 percent then to 0 percent, the fact it that the phone never seems to know where the battery is.
by the way my phone is not rooted and i have done the factory reset a few times.
samsung... hmmm.. they seem to be real hard to talk to on the phone, i have had to call them 4 times already about the s4 i ahve had since june, and they just play me off like i am some kind of idiot etc. and deny that there is possibly any reason for random shutdowns, phone freezing, and now this battery/motherboard issue.
next bit is kinda stupid, the phone has a few internal scratches on it from when i ahve stupidly had the phone next to keys and all that. im sure they are going to try and void my warranty and say i have mistreated the phone...
had many phones before, maybe close to 50 and never, never, never have had to ring up a company to try and complain etc.....
any ideas.
I am in Australia,
I am thinking of trying the CONSUMER AFFAIRS kind of threats, but i have to word it the right way...
So I'm on my 3rd replacement here. Long story and too many issues later WiFi issues, light bleed etc. I'm noticing an odd issue where the battery display gauge is stuck at 100%. I'm not sure if this has been discussed before so thought I'd share. I didn't root just yet but did update to 4.3.
Do you guys think I should just let it run dry or ?
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So I'm on my 3rd replacement here. Long story and too many issues later WiFi issues, light bleed etc. I'm noticing an odd issue where the battery display gauge is stuck at 100%. I'm not sure if this has been discussed before so thought I'd share. I didn't root just yet but did update to 4.3.
Do you guys think I should just let it run dry or ?
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I had a similar issue. Reboot, use consistently or run an intensive game for a few minutes, check your %. Then, do again or let it sleep for awhile. If it drains at all but then sticks after sleeping/gaming/Netflix or something, then its your motherboard, call Samsung and tell them to replace the PBA (Phone Board Assembly)
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I had a similar issue. Reboot, use consistently or run an intensive game for a few minutes, check your %. Then, do again or let it sleep for awhile. If it drains at all but then sticks after sleeping/gaming/Netflix or something, then its your motherboard, call Samsung and tell them to replace the PBA (Phone Board Assembly)
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thanks allot buddy. It cleared up after running a game as you suggested. Much appreciated. Love what your doing with OmniTempest
ikenvape said:
thanks allot buddy. It cleared up after running a game as you suggested. Much appreciated. Love what your doing with OmniTempest
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If it gets "stuck" like that again, call Samsung. Another common symptom is the Nexus 10 taking 5 to 10 seconds to wake
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dibblebill said:
If it gets "stuck" like that again, call Samsung. Another common symptom is the Nexus 10 taking 5 to 10 seconds to wake
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You know, I never considered contacting Samsung about any of the problems. The problem is adjusted, thanks again. Now I just need to get a 5gz capable router so I can at least stream :laugh:
Hi all,
Got a bit of a strange one and whilst I don't normally ask for help on here I am at a loss on what to do to fix the issue I am having.
My LG G2 seems to be dropping it's data connection, and struggling to reconnect. It is usually happening when I have low signal and even when I am back up to full signal (and have waited a decent amount of time) it will not reconnect. The only way to fix it is a reboot of the handset.
It has done this on two different roms so don't think it is rom related, and have tried reinstalling the baseband... With no success.
Anyone have any ideas what could be causing this and what else I could try?
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Hi all,
Got a bit of a strange one and whilst I don't normally ask for help on here I am at a loss on what to do to fix the issue I am having.
My LG G2 seems to be dropping it's data connection, and struggling to reconnect. It is usually happening when I have low signal and even when I am back up to full signal (and have waited a decent amount of time) it will not reconnect. The only way to fix it is a reboot of the handset.
It has done this on two different roms so don't think it is rom related, and have tried reinstalling the baseband... With no success.
Anyone have any ideas what could be causing this and what else I could try?
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Are you on EE? Me and my friend noticed the 3g network has been flaky the last few weeks.
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Orange... So basically the same thing yeah.
To be honest I did think it was strange as it started quite randomly and not when switching Rom etc. Fingers crossed it's just a temporary issue with the network then. Thanks for posting!
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cyberkid2002 said:
Orange... So basically the same thing yeah.
To be honest I did think it was strange as it started quite randomly and not when switching Rom etc. Fingers crossed it's just a temporary issue with the network then. Thanks for posting!
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Welcome.
Yeah I'm on T-Mobile and recently even when connected to 3g it just sits there fir a while like I have big pings.
Fingers crossed
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I have a similar issue. Losing cellular connection in its entirety. Rebooting seems to be the only fix. I'm certain it's a hardware issue.
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