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I installed the new radio yesterday and I haven't had the chance to see if it increases battery life because I was using my phone more than usual today, but has any1 noticed any improvements in battery life?
jorge89 said:
I installed the new radio yesterday and I haven't had the chance to see if it increases battery life because I was using my phone more than usual today, but has any1 noticed any improvements in battery life?
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It seems slightly better (could be placebo), but I do notice that after about 14 hours or more, my 3G/network connection would suddenly disappear (nothing to do with the settings) and I would need to reboot for it to return to normal.
Signal strength seems alright. But I did not test the wifi.
Been using it for a week or 2 now and no issues so far, haven't necessarily noticed any difference in battery life but signal strength does seem to be boosted even if only slightly.
Been using the new radio for a couple weeks here too. I haven't noticed any change in battery life whatsoever. T-Mo signal is ****ty inside the building I work in and that hasn't improved. Signal outside may have improved. No 3G here to test.
Short version: It doesn't seem to hurt, so why not?
I have been using the new radio.
I flashed it on my G1, as well as my girlfriend's MT3G.
I live in a brick building which eats cell phone signal for breakfast.
I must say, since I've upgraded, I get better signal, as well as more reliable voice and data connections on my G1. I have EDGE service only at my house.
I have also noticed better 3G signal when I am at work, and I actually am able to access EDGE from the basement at work (I previously had no signal in the basement).
Now my girlfriend still seems to be having issues getting reliable voice and data connections, although her idle signal strength seems to have improved, at home, at least, on her MT3G.
I hate to say it but I am having 3g issues. By that I mean no 3g and one to two bars. Usually I have perfect reception.
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i've noticed on the incredible that my displayed signal strength isn't as strong as it is on my droid. haven't noticed a difference in call reception or data speeds though...yet.
Eris users have noticed the same thing as you bzbz when compared to the Droid. Could be the cpu or something else HTC vs Motorola.
i've noticed on the incredible that my displayed signal strength isn't as strong as it is on my droid. haven't noticed a difference in call reception or data speeds though...yet.
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I noticed the same thing but my download/upload speeds are just as fast if not faster. I gave my Droid to my mom and took her upgrade so I have both side by side, off WiFi downloading a movie and the Incredible is actually 20-50kbs faster than my old Droid and yes the Droid is over clocked with petes 1ghz kernel.
I have had the Incredible for a couple of days, and I've noticed a lower displayed signal strength than I'd see on my Droid in the same locations.
But I've not experienced any reception issues, and my internet speed seems the same or faster.
This is what I expected. We all know that you can't count on those reception bars to compare different phones, and also that Moto tends to have better radios/reception than everyone else anyway. As long as you're phone's radio is close to Moto's in the ability to make/receive calls, then normally you're not doing bad.
well it's good to know that the signal strength concern may be more of a "cosmetic" issue than a legitimate performance issue.
daftlush said:
I hate to say it but I am having 3g issues. By that I mean no 3g and one to two bars. Usually I have perfect reception.
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how is the quality on said reception? Other people's replies seem to indicate good quality even with less bars.
BzBz said:
well it's good to know that the signal strength concern may be more of a "cosmetic" issue than a legitimate performance issue.
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This...
It is definitely cosmetic, the newest radio i have installed on my eris does the same. The reception on my eris is better then my friends with the older radio, but he has more 3G bars.
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how is the quality on said reception? Other people's replies seem to indicate good quality even with less bars.
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It may just be the way HTC displays the signal. I know on the Touch Pro 2 and Touch Pro, the signal indicator frequently shows incorrect (lower) signal strength but works fine.
I compared signal strength between my BB Curve 8330 and my new Incredible.
In spite of the indicated signal strength being lower on the Incredible, the dBm was the same. It's only one location and one user, but I suspect it's not an actual signal strength issue.
i used my incredible all day. i work in a downtown area with many tall building surrounded and i still got a good 3g signal and speed.
from Boston.
the 3G speeds on my incredible are slower that my 2G G1 running on AT&T. i get les than 200 kbps downstream. My friend with a droid standing in the same room will get aound 1100 Kbps. What gives??
if you are haveing a tough time with a signal.. I update my roaming towers... I had an issue today where I couldn't get much.. I did *228 option 2 and it updated my roaming towers and have had no problems since... sometimes you need to do that with a new phone so it knows exactly what towers to look for
tried the *228 to update. Update was successful but no improvment. still have very slow data speeds and terrible call quality. reception stays about around -100 dBm
I'm also noticing what appears to be poor reception. I was getting better reception with my Droid than I am with Incredible. I've tried the *228 last night and this morning but that hasn't helped. Hopefully there will eventually be some kind of software fix for this. I'm seeing other threads on other sites with the same kind of complaints so I don't think it's a select few who are experiencing this issue.
hoop762 said:
the 3G speeds on my incredible are slower that my 2G G1 running on AT&T. i get les than 200 kbps downstream. My friend with a droid standing in the same room will get aound 1100 Kbps. What gives??
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Your speed will depend on what tower your connected to. on my Eris, I've gone from 1mbps/0.70mbps in New York, NY to 2mbps/2mbps in West Haven, CT. It's not the phone. The newer radio on the Incredible will show less bars, but your signal strength will be fine .(dBm)
My phone keeps dropping 3G my droid never has done this in the location the incredible is. I will go into airplane mode then back out and I will have 3g again
Over at Androidforums there is a thread going regarding reception issues. On page 2 is some help in running a debug on the phone that will give you dbm levels and some other info. I'm not sure how to use the info the debug gives but perhaps it may be of some use to someone here.
The link is http://androidforums.com/htc-incredible/70223-weak-signal-strength.html
rckeystone said:
Over at Androidforums there is a thread going regarding reception issues. On page 2 is some help in running a debug on the phone that will give you dbm levels and some other info. I'm not sure how to use the info the debug gives but perhaps it may be of some use to someone here.
The link is http://androidforums.com/htc-incredible/70223-weak-signal-strength.html
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You don't need to go into field test mode like this guy said, all you need to do is from the home screen > menu > setting > about phone > network.
Here you will see signal strength (typical between -100 to -80dBm) the closer to 0 you are the better your signal is (ie: 80dBm > 90dBm)
Hope that clears up some confusion. I've tested both the motodroid and the incredible side by side in a location with low signal and can say that my incredible gets better signal than the droid, even though the "bars" don't indicate as such.
my signal always stays at -81, is that a good thing?
im a new android and 3g user
so here i got 3 Android phones
all sitting on the same spot
2 of them (SGS / XT720) shows 3 or 4 bars signal strength, but SNS only shows 1 bar, 2 at best.
however a quick test using 3G speedtest confirms the same download/upload speed as the 2 other phones.
and there's no problem calling even when it only shows 1 bar.
Can any body confirm this?
Go to settings > about phone > status and post the signal strength of each of them (should be in dBa). If they're the same, then ya either the SGS phones are overinflating their strength or the Nexus is reporting lower than it should.
AllGamer said:
so here i got 3 Android phones
all sitting on the same spot
2 of them (SGS / XT720) shows 3 or 4 bars signal strength, but SNS only shows 1 bar, 2 at best.
however a quick test using 3G speedtest confirms the same download/upload speed as the 2 other phones.
and there's no problem calling even when it only shows 1 bar.
Can any body confirm this?
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your prolly just holding it wrong
*sarcasm*
slowz3r said:
your prolly just holding it wrong
*sarcasm*
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I c wut u did thur!
Touche, good sir, touche.
SGS -97 dBm 8 asu
SNS -107 dBm 5 asu
XT720 -84 dBm 7 asu
does that mean anything to you guys?
AllGamer said:
SGS -97 dBm 8 asu
SNS -107 dBm 5 asu
XT720 -84 dBm 7 asu
does that mean anything to you guys?
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seems like it is displaying signal strength wrong, I believe it is the farther from 0 the better the signal
im at -75 and full bars 3G
anyways... that's what i'm saying the actual usage is good, and 3G speed is good
but the bar indicator is always like in 1 bar or 2 bar... which is kinda wrong
AllGamer said:
anyways... that's what i'm saying the actual usage is good, and 3G speed is good
but the bar indicator is always like in 1 bar or 2 bar... which is kinda wrong
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try restarting your phone? so it re-associates itself with the network
that would have been the first thing i do when i try to nail a bug
that's why i wanted to hear the experiences from the rest of you
just trying to find out if this is a bug specific to my phone, or if it's something that is affecting everyone
-97db with three bars displayed here.
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The farther it is from 0 in the negative, the worse the strength is. The best strength I've ever seen on an android phone was -69. Worst is in the -100's so it looks like the Nexus is actually getting worse signal, not just reporting worse...maybe an antenna problem =(
dinan said:
The farther it is from 0 in the negative, the worse the strength is. The best strength I've ever seen on an android phone was -69. Worst is in the -100's so it looks like the Nexus is actually getting worse signal, not just reporting worse...maybe an antenna problem =(
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quite the opposite, 0 is just a reference point, the farther from zero the better
Mine is -101 with 2 bars.
I'm not sure where you're getting this from, but you're saying -100dbm is better signal reception than -70dbm? If that's the case then the signal strength reporting is completely reversed... as I have full bars in my apartment and it shows -72dbm, and at work I have 1 to 0 bars and it says -101dbm. It's been like this for all of my phones.
Also speed tests at home give me 500k/s down and 50k/s up while at work I only get 60k/s down and 20k/s up...
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quite the opposite, 0 is just a reference point, the farther from zero the better
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AllGamer said:
SGS -97 dBm 8 asu
SNS -107 dBm 5 asu
XT720 -84 dBm 7 asu
does that mean anything to you guys?
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It seems like the SNS is getting far worse ACTUAL reception than the other two phone.
-107 is very bad comparing to -97 and -84.
Are all 3 phones on the same carrier?
clubtech said:
It seems like the SNS is getting far worse ACTUAL reception than the other two phone.
-107 is very bad comparing to -97 and -84.
Are all 3 phones on the same carrier?
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XT720 and SNS both are on Wind 1700/2100
SGS is on Fido 850/1900
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XT720 and SNS both are on Wind 1700/2100
SGS is on Fido 850/1900
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That's interesting as there is a huge difference between the SNS and the XT720.
-84dbm means very good reception and -107 is at the end of the workable spectrum (at -113 you basically can not place calls).
I am also noticing very bad reception on my SNS but i thought that it is due to T-Mobile's crappy network. i have no other T-mobile device to compare it with though so i start to wonder if its the Nexus S that has crappy reception or T-mobile.
Try to do more tests in other locations with the XT720 and the SNS and see if you always see such a huge difference when both devices are in exactly the same spot.
I am interested in your findings.
And as for your initial question, there is no bug in the signal indicator as -107db is very bad signal so the indicator is correct.
Okay please allow me to clear up some misunderstanding in this thread...
First of all, dBm is a logarithmic measure of signal strength with respect to 1mW. So, a smaller (i.e. more negative) reading means that you have lower signal strength.
Just to give an example: -50dBm is a much better signal than -100dBm.
Alright, so now let's move on to the next issue: You can't compare signal strength on two phones which are running on different networks. Why? It's possible that you have a strong signal from Fido and a weak signal from Wind, or vice-versa. If you want to compare the RF capabilities of two phones, you should make sure that they are connected to the same network and even the same cell (you can check the service menu to make sure that they are on the same cell).
And finally: The Settings>About Phone>Status is usually not a very accurate measure of signal strength, since they are rounded off to some pre-determined list of values (So for example, if it is jumping between -100 and -110, it might actually be jumping between -104 and -105). You should instead go to the phone's service menu (i.e. you type in some code into the keypad) where you will get an exact measurement.
My friend happened to have the XT720 while I have SNS, and we happened to be at a same location where my SNS can't maintain the connection (only able to connect at one room spot with 0 bars and unable to hear a thing due to choppy voice when I tried to check voicemail) and XT720 still got 2~3 bars anywhere in the room and able to make phone calls. We are both from same carrier. We left our phone on table side by side without touching it. So despite the bars on phone nor the signal number in setting menu, real life experience tells me XT720 does have better reception than SNS sadly D: I was embarassed that night when other friends laughted at my supposely better phone
Hi I just got this phone and the reception is actually very good. I've moved and where I'm at no gsm phone gets any decent reception but the nexus 4 somehow does get a slight signal -113 to -107 db. If I root it are there options for me to increase the milliwatts to get better reception? Is there a case that is better for reception? If I leave it on a desk with the speaker on the signal is -107 but if I use my hand it drops to -113. Thanks
The only thing that alters reception, at least as far as software, is the radio version. You might try different radios. I doubt it will do much, though
The older radios don't drop data as often. As far as a better signal I don't see much of a difference
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Smallsmx3 said:
The older radios don't drop data as often. As far as a better signal I don't see much of a difference
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radio doesn't drop calls much I'm on .48 is there one that is considered better? Calls are more important to me that any other connections
When your on wifi or don't need data like at home have the phone use only 2g network. It has a much better reception I have to do this when I am home and on the main floor or basement and works well for me
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jedisurfer said:
Hi I just got this phone and the reception is actually very good. I've moved and where I'm at no gsm phone gets any decent reception but the nexus 4 somehow does get a slight signal -113 to -107 db. If I root it are there options for me to increase the milliwatts to get better reception? Is there a case that is better for reception? If I leave it on a desk with the speaker on the signal is -107 but if I use my hand it drops to -113. Thanks
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increasing the milliwatts as you call it will increase power output. Thats for transmitting.
What you are asking is for receiving. Short of testing other radios, or using an external antenna there isnt much that can be done.
The only ways to improve your cell service are;
T-Mobile Cel-Fi Signal Boosters http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4683
If you don't qualify, check out http://cel-fi.com/ or http://www.wilsonamplifiers.com/t-mobile/
or get a AT&T MVNO SIM card. Good service on a awful carrier is still better than awful service on a good carrier.
I've had my opt for a couple weeks now and generally I really do like the phone. One issue that I'm having, that I haven't really read about is with my LTE signal. I have tmobile (usa) and admittedly I have relatively poor signal at home (-109dBm to -114dBm). I notice that every so often my LTE signal drops out completely and I get no data. At my work where I have excellent signal I don't have any issues. I've had several phones including the Oneplus One and I've never had problems with the signal dropping completely out like it does with the opt. Does anyone else have this issue? Are there any radios to try yet? or maybe just wait for a future update that might stabilize the radio? It's not a huge issue as I'm just using wifi at home most the time.
My receptiin seems bad. im in uk. Always 2 bars at house. Op2 always shows 0 99% of time in the indicator. however a signal app always says 28-35% signal. Wifi poor as well - massive drop of speed every couple of steps away from router
Are you using any apps to verify LTE signal and band?
I use LTE discovery.
useranonymous said:
Are you using any apps to verify LTE signal and band?
I use LTE discovery.
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Does your device allow LTE Discovery to continuously update it's signal data? I have to kill the app for it to change what it displays.
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