So I finally pulled the trigger and followed the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2277480
I am using Shabby's MDL and am absolutely floored by the huge difference in size differences from MDC to MDL. However I am curious about a few differences between the MDC. First let me say that everyone that has worked on this (Shabby, SXTP, Mudavo, etc) Thank you.
Now I am a newbie, but I am trying to educate myself, so please be patient while I ask questions. Under the Application Manager I am seeing a few apps (Com2uSPoker, Match3VS ) for example. I've already frozen Samsung Knox, and SEAndroid with Titanium Pro, but I'm wondering what the issue would be with me to remove some of these APKs all together (TripAdvisor and Swype for example)
Ideally I would like to do what I use to with the HTC and say pull the apks I don't use and put in ones that I like such as NovaLauncher over the EasyLauncher that is there. I am however very paranoid of having my brand new shiny turn into a brand new door stop.
Any advice or articles that you guys can point my way would be very appreciated. So my question is this, can I do all of the things I mentioned here? Would anything I do here be extremely bad?
DarqAnshin said:
So I finally pulled the trigger and followed the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2277480
I am using Shabby's MDL and am absolutely floored by the huge difference in size differences from MDC to MDL. However I am curious about a few differences between the MDC. First let me say that everyone that has worked on this (Shabby, SXTP, Mudavo, etc) Thank you.
Now I am a newbie, but I am trying to educate myself, so please be patient while I ask questions. Under the Application Manager I am seeing a few apps (Com2uSPoker, Match3VS ) for example. I've already frozen Samsung Knox, and SEAndroid with Titanium Pro, but I'm wondering what the issue would be with me to remove some of these APKs all together (TripAdvisor and Swype for example)
Ideally I would like to do what I use to with the HTC and say pull the apks I don't use and put in ones that I like such as NovaLauncher over the EasyLauncher that is there. I am however very paranoid of having my brand new shiny turn into a brand new door stop.
Any advice or articles that you guys can point my way would be very appreciated. So my question is this, can I do all of the things I mentioned here? Would anything I do here be extremely bad?
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Check out the Force Rom thread, there is a list of all of the safe to remove APK's as well as download links for all of them if you want to reinstall them.
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Make sure you use shaggy kernel for wifi fix. ForceRom rom disables it for some reason.
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Make sure you use shaggy kernel for wifi fix. ForceRom rom disables it for some reason.
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Nah I'm sticking to the modified stock kernel. I did notice that some of my quadrant scores dropped when I killed some of the apps. Weird, but I'll figure it out.
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Hi, i have a AT&T S4. i just ran motochopper and rooted my device and installed Titanium Backup. i am totally new to this, i would like to remove all the AT&T crapped not needed and remove ads is possible. what is the best way to do this.
Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2282367
[TOOL] [ROOT] [DEBLOAT] i337 - ONE TOOL! Updated May/23
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292932
[Tools} Newb Pack
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Planktron, question if i used motochopper already can i run DEBLOAT over top of it?
thanks
I really don't think it would hurt but don't do it until someone smarter than I says it's Ok. I suggest sifting through that Newb Pack before anything though.
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Question, after running the debloat when i boot my AT&T it says Samsung and shows a white lock that says custom... is there a way to fix this or what happened.
Thanks
LilSnoop40 said:
Question, after running the debloat when i boot my AT&T it says Samsung and shows a white lock that says custom... is there a way to fix this or what happened.
Thanks
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I strongly suggest you go back and read the "root" threads for this information. You can use the forums "search" feature to find many other threads on the subject that should be helpful as well. Jumping into things without reading about them will only get you in trouble. At the very least, you will end up asking a bunch of questions that have already been answered many times. Good luck.
LilSnoop40 said:
Question, after running the debloat when i boot my AT&T it says Samsung and shows a white lock that says custom... is there a way to fix this or what happened.
Thanks
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Install supersu then uninstall superuser and reboot twice.
Please search the forums before asking these questions in the future! Thank you!
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ok sorry for the problems.
thanks
First Thanks to: bender beerman, Salil99, nemofbaby2010 and the others I most likely left out in holding my hand to root 2 720's. One an MDL and one a MF9. (BTW so you don't end up in the bathroom on the can when it seems to freeze MAKE SURE YOU SET USB DEBUGGING!).
So the wifes phone is MF9, seems I should - for my sanity's sake, keep them the same - I have a "System Update Downloaded/Touch to Install" sitting here, so ...
There is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2277480 which is nice, but I want only to update, I am running stock ROM/software and would like to keep it that way, I'm fine with it.
My question is, if I change the file for native tethering BEFORE I update, what update/method would I use that would keep everything nice and kosker?
AND how does one tell if this is a deodexed or odexed ROM?
A big thanks in advance - and if you haven't donated to these guys get off you ...
RBraverman said:
First Thanks to: bender beerman, Salil99, nemofbaby2010 and the others I most likely left out in holding my hand to root 2 720's. One an MDL and one a MF9. (BTW so you don't end up in the bathroom on the can when it seems to freeze MAKE SURE YOU SET USB DEBUGGING!).
So the wifes phone is MF9, seems I should - for my sanity's sake, keep them the same - I have a "System Update Downloaded/Touch to Install" sitting here, so ...
There is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2277480 which is nice, but I want only to update, I am running stock ROM/software and would like to keep it that way, I'm fine with it.
My question is, if I change the file for native tethering BEFORE I update, what update/method would I use that would keep everything nice and kosker?
AND how does one tell if this is a deodexed or odexed ROM?
A big thanks in advance - and if you haven't donated to these guys get off you ...
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I'm a bit confused on the question. What do you mean by changing the file? Usually if you want to update with a modified ROM, you usually have to do a factory reset (I know, boo :crying: )
As for checking for odexed vs deodexed, you need a file manager with root permissions. Navigate to /system/app, and if you see any .odex files, then you're odexed. If you see any .apk files, then you are deodexed (Credits to Android Central for this one!)
Thanks for the mention! I do have an extra 9 at the end, haha.
Salil999 said:
I'm a bit confused on the question. What do you mean by changing the file? Usually if you want to update with a modified ROM, you usually have to do a factory reset (I know, boo :crying: )
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WAAAAAAH.
Now that I got that out of my system, re-read my post and well, er, let me reword it: To do the native tether mod without a custom recovery you need to copy over two files - services.jar and services.odex. What I'm asking is, if I do that, THEN take the update that Sprint has waiting for me already downloaded on the phone[/I] (which I believe is MF9), will it take out root and that mod?
Now that I've done a bunch of reading ( yes one of my finer points is my ability to read) I AM going to put TWRP V2.5.0.0.0 - which I am familiar with and understand plays nice with the S4 - on the phone via GooManager, so that makes the tether mod easy, but what about this update waiting on my phone? As far as I'm concerned I'd not do it, but I now one day I'm going to pass my finger over "Touch to Install" and then ...
Salil999 said:
As for checking for odexed vs deodexed, you need a file manager with root permissions. Navigate to /system/app, and if you see any .odex files, then you're odexed. If you see any .apk files, then you are deodexed (Credits to Android Central for this one!)
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Thank you! - first person able to explain that (I did search but did not see that link which I'm on my way to when finished here).
Salil999 said:
Thanks for the mention! I do have an extra 9 at the end, haha.
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I didn't think that looked right - my deepest apologies.
******************************* update ********************
Installed, via GooManager (now this is REALLY making things too easy!) TWRP V2.6.0.0, backed it up, and now one 1 phone I'll be adding the Native Tether Mod, the other - mine - has a notification that there is a software update - Touch to Update, which I do not want to do, in case it's firmware.
If you apply the the hotspot mod before applying the MF9 upgrade the update will fail because you will have modded system files. Just apply the update now, then re root with cf autoroot and then apply the correct hotspot mod for MF9. I don't understand why people worry about losing root when the cf autoroot works so well. Remember, in order to apply the update you must be on a stock recovery also.
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The update won't work anyway if you are rooted. I've accidentally pressed it before too. First it will prompt you to update, so you don't have to worry about that.
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cruise350 said:
If you apply the the hotspot mod before applying the MF9 upgrade the update will fail because you will have modded system files. Just apply the update now, then re root with cf autoroot and then apply the correct hotspot mod for MF9.
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Can do, but ...
cruise350 said:
I don't understand why people worry about losing root when the cf autoroot works so well.
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I'm not worried about losing root, I'm just TRYING to sift through the 100 or so ways of doing the bits and pieces, that - put together - make a rooted MF9/Custom Recovery/WiFi Tethered S4 without a lot of scary things happening.
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Remember, in order to apply the update you must be on a stock recovery also.
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Now THAT is of interest. I've TWRP 2.6.0 on it, can you point me in the right direction where there are instructions on going BACK to a stock recovery?
I'm beginning to think enough - I'm fine where I am - after I add the tether MOD - the Wife's a MF9, with tether MOD to be put on it today.
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How do I flash - and where IS the file - back to stock recovery in MDL?
OR do I flash this file L720VPUAMDL_L720SPTAMDL_SPR.zip which will give me a stock MDL and Recovery and THEN let the MF9 OTA update happen, CF-Root, then TWRP via GooManager, then Tether MOD?
Salil999 said:
The update won't work anyway if you are rooted. I've accidentally pressed it before too. First it will prompt you to update, so you don't have to worry about that.
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Let me ask, what are you on?
I ask, as I have that update waiting, ( and notice your tag says you are a MDL ) but as posted above, am thinking about staying where I am, and just finish it by applying the Hotspot MOD.
RBraverman said:
Let me ask, what are you on?
I ask, as I have that update waiting, ( and notice your tag says you are a MDL ) but as posted above, am thinking about staying where I am, and just finish it by applying the Hotspot MOD.
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I'm on MDL, currently using CyanogenMod. I had stock for a really long time though, and I never upgraded to MF9. I've heard countless problems and issues with it and other various mods out there. I personally think it's just easier to stay MDL. I've also heard that MF9 has a long boot time (1-2 minutes, even) whereas MDL is about 15-35 seconds.
So bottom line, I'm staying MDL (and I advise you to do too! but everything is your choice! :good
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I'm on MDL, currently using CyanogenMod. I had stock for a really long time though, and I never upgraded to MF9. I've heard countless problems and issues with it and other various mods out there. I personally think it's just easier to stay MDL. I've also heard that MF9 has a long boot time (1-2 minutes, even) whereas MDL is about 15-35 seconds.
So bottom line, I'm staying MDL (and I advise you to do too! but everything is your choice! :good
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I basically agree. I'm beginning to hear - even from the store where I bought them, there have been problems. I got caught up in the fact that I have 2 phones (2 fer sale) and wanted them the same o I wouldn't get mixed up if I did something later on.
BUT, other then the notification - which bugs the hell out of me, it's doing everything I want it to do, so I am staying put.
PLUS, while there is a TON - probably 5 tons - of info on this site, it's a bear trying to find the right info. I can't tell you how many times I've had to ask a question that HAS been answered before, but with 10 different answers.
Thank you again.
I know there is plenty of info on this topic but I have a few questions and it would be nice to have them all answered in this thread. I have a lot of rooting and modding experience (previous phone was the evo 3d), but I remember reading that one of the 2? sprint s4 updates may either not allow some apps to work or kill a feature/ interfere with rooting is that true?
-So is the MF9 the newest update or the 2nd to last? Can you guys please break down the main things changed in the two updates?
- How do I check which I am on atm? I don't remember doing any of the large ones.
Finally what would the best way to root? I plan on keeping touchwiz for now, and probably using Ktoonsez kernel?
Which recovery is recommended?
Gabeomatic said:
I know there is plenty of info on this topic but I have a few questions and it would be nice to have them all answered in this thread. I have a lot of rooting and modding experience (previous phone was the evo 3d), but I remember reading that one of the 2? sprint s4 updates may either not allow some apps to work or kill a feature/ interfere with rooting is that true?
-So is the MF9 the newest update or the 2nd to last? Can you guys please break down the main things changed in the two updates?
- How do I check which I am on atm? I don't remember doing any of the large ones.
Finally what would the best way to root? I plan on keeping touchwiz for now, and probably using Ktoonsez kernel?
Which recovery is recommended?
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MF9 is the latest official release. If you want it I recommend updating before rooting just because it is a bit easier that way. Largest change in MF9 is apps2sd capability but can see the changes here: Update Changlog
To check just go to menu/settings/more/about device. Take note of software and baseband version. This will tell you what you are currently on.
Go here for root instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2257101
Recovery is really a personal choice. TWRP can be a bit buggy and depends on the version but still works for regular usage. CWM/OUDHS work fine as well. Use what you are familiar with. I prefer TWRP for the touch interface and restore of root if permissions get removed.
As for apps and MF9, I have read some having issues with certain apps but don't know much more than that. I have never had any issues with any app but know there are some with enormous amounts of apps on the device so who knows. Maybe it is a problem created when moving data to the extsd card.
Also, don't forget to check this thread after rooting. Has a wealth of information and links to what you can do: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2303917
CCallahan said:
MF9 is the latest official release. If you want it I recommend updating before rooting just because it is a bit easier that way. Largest change in MF9 is apps2sd capability but can see the changes here: Update Changlog
To check just go to menu/settings/more/about device. Take note of software and baseband version. This will tell you what you are currently on.
Go here for root instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2257101
Recovery is really a personal choice. TWRP can be a bit buggy and depends on the version but still works for regular usage. CWM/OUDHS work fine as well. Use what you are familiar with. I prefer TWRP for the touch interface and restore of root if permissions get removed.
As for apps and MF9, I have read some having issues with certain apps but don't know much more than that. I have never had any issues with any app but know there are some with enormous amounts of apps on the device so who knows. Maybe it is a problem created when moving data to the extsd card.
Also, don't forget to check this thread after rooting. Has a wealth of information and links to what you can do: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2303917
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Thanks for the quick reply. Lastly, I may have heard there is a tethering issue with MF9 is that true?
Gabeomatic said:
Thanks for the quick reply. Lastly, I may have heard there is a tethering issue with MF9 is that true?
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I'm not familiar with anything specific to MF9. Probably depends on the device trying to connect. My Note 8 connects/works fine using the hotspot mod on MF9 and previous versions.
I don't get why people do not ask this in the noob thread instead of making a new one.
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Gabeomatic said:
Thanks for the quick reply. Lastly, I may have heard there is a tethering issue with MF9 is that true?
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I have MF9, rooted, stock rom. The Hotspot mod works for me, just like it did on the MDL. No problems installing it or using it on my S4.
First of all, i recently rooted using cf autoroot and afterwards installed cwm recovery. I'm on 4.3.
After the things listed above i am completely clueless on things regarding flashing and things of that nature.
My first question is how do i backup my phone to my pc without the need of a external sd card, because mine is only a 1gb i cant backup to it.
2nd question is how to verify if i am on mf9, mdl, or whatever else. From what i have read it seems to matter regarding roms.
3rd and last question is once i am all setup and have chosen a rom how would i go about flashing it.
I'm sorry for my extreme case of noobness regarding androids and flashing, any well detailed links would really help and would love to be recommended roms.
Once again i have a Sprint Galaxy s4 running jellybean 4.3.
EDIT: Also the difference between Touchwiz and AOSP roms and kernels would help.
1. Not sure. I use Dropbox so I'm of no help here.
2. If you are on 4.3, you are on MJA. You can verify this from the About screen in System Settings.
3. Download your desired ROM to your phone. Turn off phone. Boot into recovery holding power and volume up. Flash away.
EDIT: Touchwiz is Samsung's Android interface. AOSP is closer to pure Android. Basically a user preference thing. Try them both.
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frostedunit said:
1. Not sure. I use Dropbox so I'm of no help here.
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Thanks but on the above did you backup with cwm and then post to dropbox?
As far as flashing a ROM goes, follow whatever instructions the OP has posted. Read through all their initial posts on their ROM before you flash.
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Buy a bigger sdcard!! What are they like $10 for a 16gb now.
I've hard bricked this thing once trying to flash a rom once. Tried to gain custom recovery via AUTOREC. Should be called Autowreck.
Sometimes it is best just to ask to be pointed in the right direction.
I just learned about LOKI and SAFESTRAP. BUT are these just for TW based ROMS? I want a CM based ROM. PACROM, specifically. I see others with this AT&T phone running it.
Will someone please help a noob with a tutorial or advice and stop me from running in circles? W/ rooted 4.4.2, NC1 build.
Start with reading well the SafeStrap thread by Hashcode in Q&A
and the All Thinks ATT, MK2 in General
You can only use SafeStrap and can not flash non TW roms or custom recoveries/kernels, so CM AOSP etc
Sorry
rugmankc said:
Start with reading well the SafeStrap thread by Hashcode in Q&A
and the All Thinks ATT, MK2 in General
You can only use SafeStrap and can not flash non TW roms or custom recoveries/kernels, so CM AOSP etc
Sorry
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Been reading the safe strap thread. 89 pages! Stumped on the first one. ENCRYPTED? Not sure. How do I tell? Nb1, Mk2, Mf3 software? No idea. Did not see it in settings> about device. How do I tell is the next step I guess.
On to check the All Thinks Mk2 thread. Sorry for my noobness.
New Song said:
Been reading the safe strap thread. 89 pages! Stumped on the first one. ENCRYPTED? Not sure. How do I tell? Nb1, Mk2, Mf3 software? No idea. Did not see it in settings> about device. How do I tell is the next step I guess.
On to check the All Thinks Mk2 thread. Sorry for my noobness.
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Get a terminal emulator on your phone. In it type:
su
getprop ro.bootloader
What does it say? Look at the last three characters
Edit, in about devices what is your baseband, last three characters?
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Sorry, I thought you NC1 now?
jd will get you sorted, he is more hands on with safestrap than i am
but, the gist of it is going to All Thinks ATT, MK2 and to post 5
but read all you can in both threads--:good:
Nc1. So this is the SafeStrap file: JFLTE-3.72-kk-B01.apk. How a bow the encryption determination? Sound like a bootloader if it is encrypted.
New Song said:
Nc1. So this is the SafeStrap file: JFLTE-3.72-kk-B01.apk. How a bow the encryption determination? Sound like a bootloader if it is encrypted.
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Did you get nb1 from your baseband? Is your device encrypted? That's different than than the bootloader. Your bootloader is definitely locked. But you can root by updating to nc1 and using towelroot and then safestrap.
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jd1639 said:
Did you get nb1 from your baseband? Is your device encrypted? That's different than than the bootloader. Your bootloader is definitely locked. But you can root by updating to nc1 and using towelroot and then safestrap.
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NC 1
I am rooted. SS installed. ROM DL'ed ready to go. Creating ROM slot. Or trying t seems stuck. I know it takes about 5 minutes. But it's been about 15-20
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New Song said:
NC 1
I am rooted. SS installed. ROM DL'ed ready to go. Creating ROM slot. Or trying t seems stuck. I know it takes about 5 minutes. But it's been about 15-20
sorry for the pic quality. No zoom on this tab 4. It's next.
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You have to use the stock slot, not a secondary slot
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jd1639 said:
You have to use the stock slot, not a secondary slot
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Aaaaand. S'S stopped working. Uninstalled, reinstalled and the same. Technology fails me.
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Aaaaand. S'S stopped working. Uninstalled, reinstalled and the same. Technology fails me.
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What are you trying to flash? PAC isn't going to work, it's cm based. You can only flash touch wiz based roms
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Anything else. I have Gravitron zip ready to go. But I cannot even get S'S to open now. "SafeStrap has stopped working". Even after attempted reinstalls. If there was someone here local I could just delegate this to, I would.
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Anything else. I have Gravitron zip ready to go. But I cannot even get S'S to open now. "SafeStrap has stopped working". Even after attempted reinstalls. If there was someone here local I could just delegate this to, I would.
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You probably have to use Odin to re-flash nb1 and start over
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jd1639 said:
You probably have to use Odin to re-flash nb1 and start over
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That may be. Got safestrap to start working by using se linu mode changer. Still stuck at updating partition details. Gonna start a thread on that I think. Maybe one on the search functions too.
New Song said:
That may be. Got safestrap to start working by using se linu mode changer. Still stuck at updating partition details. Gonna start a thread on that I think. Maybe one on the search functions too.
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Just as an FYI, I've had very good results with Golden Eye installed via SafeStrap. No problems with it, whatsoever, in my experience. That being said, I'm tired of being restricted to touchwiz ROMs so I've bought a T-Mobile S4 (unlocked SIM/Bootloader) and will be selling my ATT one soon.
Marc
Frankenscript said:
Just as an FYI, I've had very good results with Golden Eye installed via SafeStrap. No problems with it, whatsoever, in my experience. That being said, I'm tired of being restricted to touchwiz ROMs so I've bought a T-Mobile S4 (unlocked SIM/Bootloader) and will be selling my ATT one soon.
Marc
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Starting to feel the same way. Flashing this sgh-i337 is turning out to be quite an infuriating ordeal. So much conflicting info. Allllll these ROMs available for S4, it seems. But they don't work because this version isn't compatible. And the Tw ones I've tried ALL DAY are not working either. Granted, I was not using SS correctly initially, but now that they are successfully loading in the stock slot are not working. Graviton never boots, stays on the ouroboros snake screen. Imperium has no data or wifi etc (i9505 rom? I tried it as it said it was verified working 9th i337. Nope. Figured it was a problem when it said i9505 on my model). Goldeneye, actually can connect, wifi etc. But when I change settings in Wanam, it does not take them (after reboot). Had all the other connectivity issues until I flashed a patch. Also, I was pretty happy to see than I could activate hotspot. But my device was nowhere to be found by other devices. Modules, kernals, patches, oh my... out of all the tutorials for S4's on the wide wide world of internets, nothing seems to fly. This must be the red headed bastard child of Android.
I know it is all user error, but can nothing be simple?
Just want a simple rom and hotspot. That looks awesome. Hrm.
About to try this GE download. GE-XXUGNG4-37.zip. I tried the later NG-8-38 version last time. And yes, I did the ST update at&t module update previously.
Great googley moogley! I think he's finally got it, folks! Ooooh. Niiice. So smooth. Roomy!
This hacking biz ain't for the faint of heart. Thanks guys!!! MUCH APPRECIAT3D! :good:
Paraphrasing, I think, Tom Hanks
"It's suppose to hard, the hard is what makes it great. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it."
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rugmankc said:
Paraphrasing, I think, Tom Hanks
"It's suppose to hard, the hard is what makes it great. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it."
:good:
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Avoid the clap.... Jimmy Dugan.
Hey that's good advice kid....