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[Q] Been trying for hours. Please help.

I had to post. Its 5:21 and I need sleep. I tried updating to amdl on my i337. I never updated the modem when it came out and I was running an odex 4.2.2 google rom. I was unable to root my phone using an odex Google edition from the i9505 which I lokidoki'd. It was 4.3 and I was able to upgrade, but nothing and I mean absolutely nothing will allow a root. I also just updated to mf3 which I didn't mean to do (hit the wrong file in cwm) after doing everything I could with my amdl. I reverted to amdl and tried forever. The binary won't install and it wouldn't before mf3. I looked everywhere. Root methods for both basebands. I tried all of them short of ones that will brick me. Any input would be great. I'm glad to be on 4.3, but I NEED root. I'm not a pro, but I've been doing this stuff long enough to know what I'm doing. If you think of something even moderately complex, I've probably done it. Somebody help...

Is your phone official MF3 or MDL base
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jball said:
Is your phone official MF3 or MDL base
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All I know is that it was mdb before updating.

Is the phone working and if so check in "about phone"in your settings. Please
Need more info to try n help
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jball said:
Is the phone working and if so check in "about phone"in your settings. Please
Need more info to try n help
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RicoStang said:
I had to post. Its 5:21 and I need sleep. I tried updating to amdl on my i337. I never updated the modem when it came out and I was running an odex 4.2.2 google rom. I was unable to root my phone using an odex Google edition from the i9505 which I lokidoki'd. It was 4.3 and I was able to upgrade, but nothing and I mean absolutely nothing will allow a root. I also just updated to mf3 which I didn't mean to do (hit the wrong file in cwm) after doing everything I could with my amdl. I reverted to amdl and tried forever. The binary won't install and it wouldn't before mf3. I looked everywhere. Root methods for both basebands. I tried all of them short of ones that will brick me. Any input would be great. I'm glad to be on 4.3, but I NEED root. I'm not a pro, but I've been doing this stuff long enough to know what I'm doing. If you think of something even moderately complex, I've probably done it. Somebody help...
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You're making this way too complicated.
1. System Settings --> About Phone
2. Activate Developer Options by tapping "Build number" several times
3. System Settings --> Developer Options --> Root Access --> Apps and ADB (or Apps only, if you prefer)

mattdm said:
You're making this way too complicated.
1. System Settings --> About Phone
2. Activate Developer Options by tapping "Build number" several times
3. System Settings --> Developer Options --> Root Access --> Apps and ADB (or Apps only, if you prefer)
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It was already enabled. There is nothing about root access in my Dev options. All I get is that superuser cannot update the binary. I've tried motochopper and just installing supersu through cwm. The old version of it gives root access but it never sticks and keeps asking and as soon as it updates it tells me that it can't install a binary on 4.3

RicoStang said:
It was already enabled. There is nothing about root access in my Dev options. All I get is that superuser cannot update the binary. I've tried motochopper and just installing supersu through cwm. The old version of it gives root access but it never sticks and keeps asking and as soon as it updates it tells me that it can't install a binary on 4.3
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Huh. OK, let me get a little more info. First off, you never did the OTA MF3 update, correct? As in, the Loki exploit still works on your device?
Also, when you say, "I tried updating to amdl," and, "I also just updated to mf3," do you mean firmware versions or just modems(basebands)? It seems to me that you mean the latter, because your screenshot is still showing the 4.3 Google Edition firmware.
If this is the case, it sounds like you have not tried a full wipe and re-flash of the rom. Is this true?

mattdm said:
Huh. OK, let me get a little more info. First off, you never did the OTA MF3 update, correct? As in, the Loki exploit still works on your device?
Also, when you say, "I tried updating to amdl," and, "I also just updated to mf3," do you mean firmware versions or just modems(basebands)? It seems to me that you mean the latter, because your screenshot is still showing the 4.3 Google Edition firmware.
If this is the case, it sounds like you have not tried a full wipe and re-flash of the rom. Is this true?
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Tried a wipe. Tried another rom just like it. Nothing. And yes just the basebands. I'm running AMDL right now on kangabean. It's all good. I like the rom a lot actually. I got Wallet working which was big for me. Just slightly disappointed at the deodex. Would prefer an odex rom. Oh well! Thanks for your help everyone I appreciate it.

RicoStang said:
Tried a wipe. Tried another rom just like it. Nothing. And yes just the basebands. I'm running AMDL right now on kangabean. It's all good. I like the rom a lot actually. I got Wallet working which was big for me. Just slightly disappointed at the deodex. Would prefer an odex rom. Oh well! Thanks for your help everyone I appreciate it.
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Kangabean is actually exactly what I was going to suggest for you. Root is working on it for you?
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[Q] Getting my S4 on Tues, have some questions to rom/root it.

So I am upgrading from my beloved S3 to the Red S4 now, getting it in on Tues. Thank you employee line deals.. So anyways, I saw some stickies about to avoid the OTA otherwise can not flash a diff kernel, correct? That there are no odin files of the new update.
That being said, How will I know when I get my device in, if they already gave it to me updated or if its where I can custom rom it. Would figure its a certain thing in the status menu part for a version. Dont wanna mess this up, so doing my research now.
Also any custom roms that are super worth it? I know on my S3, I use a nice one with the multi window and floating windows. So if there is a super good one to use, IF I can use one, what is it?
Also does the toolbox program we used for the S3 work for S4? (Havent checked on updates in awhile) cause I need to least root this sucker if I wanna restore my titanium backups.
Anyways thanks for any points in the right direction, this is the part I always hated.. working with a new phone then sitting with it till I study up on all the roms and tweaking of it.

When you get your device got to settings>more>about device and if the the last three characters of the baseband is MF3 then you can only use stock kernels with safestrap recovery and if it is MDL or MDB you can have custom recovery, custom roms with motochopper root. There are some pretty good roms out there. Unfortunately i'm on MF3 cause i got the OTA and it updated overnight.

Also when you first get your box with the phone inside. Look on the outside of the box and it will show which firmware is on it. It will have the last three letters of mdb, MDL, or MF3. All I can say is HOPE for MDL which may or may not be possible. But the red colored ones do not seem to go as fast so HOPEFULLY it is MDL.
Next course of action IF it is MDL is DO NOT connect to WiFi, and I would also suggest NOT putting in the Sim card yet. Download Motochopper by Jbliss and or Casual+motochopper by Adam Outler which will root and install tarp recovery. Then read up from there and flash a ROM.
If it comes with MF3 then you will need to flash SafeStrap to be able to out "some Roms" onto your phone and have root. But safestrap is more limited than what you are used to/what I posted in the paragraph above.
I am GUESSING you are buying it from ATT? Then chances may be slim of anything other than mf3. But I did get a MDL from Walmart (they had black and white if I remember correctly, not sure about red). I got a black one with MDL about a month ago and they had two others in stock. So places like that MAY be a better bet for you.
Now this is MY opinion and take it for what it is worth. I will NEVER be buying another ATT phone due to how hard they are locking the boitloaders down. NEVER... So my next suggestion is get a T-Mobile S4 and you can use it on ATT and it does not have locked bootloaders at this time and hopefully never.
Read all the sticky threads about MF3 and prepare yourself in case you want to keep it. Good luck to you
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You will have to try out different roms and see for yourself what they have to offer.if it turns out to be MF3 take the most important advice "!!READ!!"
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Before you get your phone read a whole lot about it. Read all the pinned (stickies) threads first. Then keep reading before you do anything with it. Good luck!

RockRatt said:
Also when you first get your box with the phone inside. Look on the outside of the box and it will show which firmware is on it. It will have the last three letters of mdb, MDL, or MF3. All I can say is HOPE for MDL which may or may not be possible. But the red colored ones do not seem to go as fast so HOPEFULLY it is MDL.
Next course of action IF it is MDL is DO NOT connect to WiFi, and I would also suggest NOT putting in the Sim card yet. Download Motochopper by Jbliss and or Casual+motochopper by Adam Outler which will root and install tarp recovery. Then read up from there and flash a ROM.
If it comes with MF3 then you will need to flash SafeStrap to be able to out "some Roms" onto your phone and have root. But safestrap is more limited than what you are used to/what I posted in the paragraph above.
I am GUESSING you are buying it from ATT?
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Yes, getting from ATT dealer accounts, while I know I can use T-Mobiles stuff, I wouldnt have the "LTE" ability, which is what is happening now with my TMO S3, I have 4G, yes, but not LTE. So giving that phone to my friend for her upgrade, so she can get LTE with TMO while upgrading myself. Now if I am MDL, then woot, I take it its almost business as usual with the way I worked my roms and so of the past?
Then lets say I am MF3, now that in itself. may not be "as bad" since honestly, the S3's rom was pretty solid out of the box, just root it and go. Could I assume if I dont wanna put a diff rom on MF3, I could least root the stock rom easy enough and move on? (Plus could use titanium backup to remove the bloat) Seems abit crazy on MF3 and safe strap, sounds like its using the internal storage space to run the rom off of.
Now in regards to if I am MDL, I assume you mean download motochopper for the pc, then hook up and let it run. Now after that point, is my phone safe from OTA? Do I need to install a new rom right then and there or can I use stock rom and know that I am safe from it updating to MF3. Just making sure I got my notes right for tm morning when it comes in by fedex heh.
Qbeezy24 said:
When you get your device got to settings>more>about device and if the the last three characters of the baseband is MF3 then you can only use stock kernels with safestrap recovery and if it is MDL or MDB you can have custom recovery, custom roms with motochopper root. There are some pretty good roms out there. Unfortunately i'm on MF3 cause i got the OTA and it updated overnight.
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So there is no difference in MDL and MDB? Or was MDL still better? Sounds like really the next couple days are gonna be research and testing.. thats after I put my screen protector on it heh.

Mysticales said:
Now if I am MDL, then woot, I take it its almost business as usual with the way I worked my roms and so of the past?
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Yes it would be almost exactly business as usual. Of course READ any Roms HOW TO INSTALL section. About the only difference from the S3 flashing is if you are flashing kernels/Roms make sure the are loki'd or use Loki doki during flashing. Again read up on this.
Mysticales said:
Then lets say I am MF3, now that in itself. may not be "as bad" since honestly, the S3's rom was pretty solid out of the box, just root it and go. Could I assume if I dont wanna put a diff rom on MF3, I could least root the stock rom easy enough and move on? (Plus could use titanium backup to remove the bloat) Seems abit crazy on MF3 and safe strap, sounds like its using the internal storage space to run the rom off of.
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Yes you can flash some Roms (4.2.2 based Roms) with Safestrap. Read all about safestrap as I do not have it and don't know many if the answers since I cannot test. But the one thing is be VERY CAREFUL removing bloat with tibu, once it is gone you will NOT be able to get it back. Read many horror stories if debloating gone wrong and phone not working.
Mysticales said:
Now in regards to if I am MDL, I assume you mean download motochopper for the pc, then hook up and let it run. Now after that point, is my phone safe from OTA? Do I need to install a new rom right then and there or can I use stock rom and know that I am safe from it updating to MF3. Just making sure I got my notes right for tm morning when it comes in by fedex heh.
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Yes download either Motochopper or I like "Casual+Motochopper" as it gives you a recovery as well. Either cwm or twrp.
No at that point it is NOT safe from OTA updates, you will need to FREEZE certain apps with tibu.
Check out the Roms section. I haven't used it but I believe there is a "neutered mf3 stock firmware" that has the ota updating parts removed already. If you do NOT freeze the apps ATT set up mf3 to Auto Download and INSTALL mf3. Most users got it while they were sleeping, even if they were only stock and rooted. But IF you have a custom recovery and a ROM on it you will not get the auto update and install.
Mysticales said:
So there is no difference in MDL and MDB? Or was MDL still better? Sounds like really the next couple days are gonna be research and testing.. thats after I put my screen protector on it heh.
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MDB was what came with the phone and MDL was updated within a few weeks if I remember correctly. I believe I still have the mdb bootloaders on my phone and my wife's came with MDL and has those bootloaders. I have seen NO DIFFERENCE as far as flashing or things working differently in my case.
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So, being on MF3 will not allow us to flash kernals and we are limited to specific Roms? Are those the major differences? Also, should we stay away from the OTA...I keep hearing about it.
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nash2000 said:
So, being on MF3 will not allow us to flash kernals and we are limited to specific Roms? Are those the major differences? Also, should we stay away from the OTA...I keep hearing about it.
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Yes I believe you cannot flash kernels with safestrap. And only 4.2.2 based Roms will work and possibly on tw Roms, but there might be one cm variant that would work. Just check out the safestrap thread for more info on all if this. I think they even have a list if tested working Roms there.
No one knows FOR SURE but I believe the new 4.3 update blows a second qfuse, this will make it so you cannot downgrade to anything lower than MJ6.
MF3 blows the first qfuse which is why you cannot downgrade to MDL bases.
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Well I have a mf3 gs4 :/ sooo now then. I don't "mind" stock really too much.. ill miss my drop down toggles I thing more from my gs3. I saw one post that explains using terminal to get root access which is something I know I need for sure. So now then those on mf3 are you too staying on stock and just rooting?
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Mysticales said:
Well I have a mf3 gs4 :/ sooo now then. I don't "mind" stock really too much.. ill miss my drop down toggles I thing more from my gs3. I saw one post that explains using terminal to get root access which is something I know I need for sure. So now then those on mf3 are you too staying on stock and just rooting?
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Kingo root method is an easy one click method that works also. Why stay stock when you can root easily? I was rooted but now on 4.3.
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I just got my phone!!!! I got mine at Costco which I normally get my phone through best buy but there insurance plan stinks now.
Anyways, My phone had the MDF!! So get your phone at Costco!
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[email protected] said:
Kingo root method is an easy one click method that works also. Why stay stock when you can root easily? I was rooted but now on 4.3.
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Of course I am rooted... you think after being a pioneer with a beloved Htc G1, that I would EVER be on a device without root. =p (Man.. the reinstalling of a 100 apps manually alone without titanium backup along with its prefs, config and data would take a week to get right) I used that exFat method.
But yea, even tho I am rooted, I wouldnt "mind" a diff rom.. or least debloat this sucker. Half tempted to see which ATT apps I could get rid of, issue is... no odin to restore to if something messes up. I am sure someone will do a mf3 recovery sometime eh?
Oh... btw, how would I disable any auto OTA that could come in the future?

New to samsung, would like help with root

Hey as in the title, im new to samsung phones entirely besides a brief experience with the galaxy prevail on boost, I am not familiar with the ODIN process and downloading the different firmwares as my previous device was a Droid Razr HD maxx and everything was one click root and one click bootloader unlock when I needed to do stuff.
Im looking for a dummies work through to root and get the leaked KK build then the right way to stop OTA on samsung devices (on moto I simply froze the updater in titanium backup.
Model SM-900V (just bought yesterday and keep having to ignore the OTA afraid one time im gona accidentally click yes)
Android version 4.3
Baseband N900VVRUBMJE
Kernel 3.4.0 [email protected] #1 Mon November 11 19:53:12 KST 2013
Build JSS15J.N900VVRUBMJE
SE Android status Permissive
HW version N900V.07

AndroidGreg said:
Hey as in the title, im new to samsung phones entirely besides a brief experience with the galaxy prevail on boost, I am not familiar with the ODIN process and downloading the different firmwares as my previous device was a Droid Razr HD maxx and everything was one click root and one click bootloader unlock when I needed to do stuff.
Im looking for a dummies work through to root and get the leaked KK build then the right way to stop OTA on samsung devices (on moto I simply froze the updater in titanium backup.
Model SM-900V (just bought yesterday and keep having to ignore the OTA afraid one time im gona accidentally click yes)
Android version 4.3
Baseband N900VVRUBMJE
Kernel 3.4.0 [email protected] #1 Mon November 11 19:53:12 KST 2013
Build JSS15J.N900VVRUBMJE
SE Android status Permissive
HW version N900V.07
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THIS thread will get you rooted. THIS thread will help you get to 4.4.2. Lastly, THIS thread will show you what to change to prevent the OTAs. Just read through them and be sure you understand what you're doing before starting. It is pretty simple, take your time and if you have questions don't be afraid to ask.

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THIS thread will get you rooted. THIS thread will help you get to 4.4.2. Lastly, THIS thread will show you what to change to prevent the OTAs. Just read through them and be sure you understand what you're doing before starting. It is pretty simple, take your time and if you have questions don't be afraid to ask.
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Thank you, so far I have root (yay) safestrap installed, for the first time ever haha, and i just blocked the ota for now, will work on KK tonight. I think its time for a drink, samsung is confusing as hell, im assuming since I used kingo for root and it booted up custom that I tripped the knox security right?

AndroidGreg said:
Thank you, so far I have root (yay) safestrap installed, for the first time ever haha, and i just blocked the ota for now, will work on KK tonight. I think its time for a drink, samsung is confusing as hell, im assuming since I used kingo for root and it booted up custom that I tripped the knox security right?
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No you did not trip Knox, that just means you're rooted. You can install THIS app to get rid of the "custom" icon. Just install it and hit "reset flash counter" then reboot.

There is also a free version here.
<Note3>

Thanks guys, this has been kinda a hellish conversion to sammy from moto as everything is different especially with root and flashing I honestly hate touch whiz yet love some of the features, wish i could toggle off the damn notification widget the small one and huge one and have stock 4.3/4.4 bar up there I like how on stock it shows my google acct and other stuff

Ok im having a problem, when trying to flash KK
- Install De-Odexed or Odexed NC2 zip or Baja Rom KKv1 (from sdcard) (Keep your eyes open for additional 4.4.2 Roms)
I downloaded the de-odexed nc2 that 1.6 gb file, dragged the zip to my sd, boot into recovery, wipe internal and the file is nowhere to be found on my SD, not sure whats going on really. It seems like everything keeps disappearing.

Nevermind, The thread needs to be edited to tell people to ONLY put it on the internal memory, external Never worked for me tried 10 times downloading and transferring, in phone and my macbook sd card slot (i am not using OSX to do this i am using Windows 8.1)

Awesome thread I will be getting a replacement note 3 hopefully Tuesday and I am completely new to samsung more of a htc person. .. but happy I got the note 3
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breakyosef said:
Awesome thread I will be getting a replacement note 3 hopefully Tuesday and I am completely new to samsung more of a htc person. .. but happy I got the note 3
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You should like it a lot, Its somewhat confusing from motorola but I got the hang of it, would like that first reply to have a sticky labled "Dummies Come here, THIS IS HOW TO ROOT, SS, UPDATE TO 4.4, AND Stop OTA" The only problem was like what I said earlier use internal mem, honestly I recommend removing your SD if you have one in because theirs a wipe option and it doesn't seem like its that hard to accidentally hit.

AndroidGreg said:
You should like it a lot, Its somewhat confusing from motorola but I got the hang of it, would like that first reply to have a sticky labled "Dummies Come here, THIS IS HOW TO ROOT, SS, UPDATE TO 4.4, AND Stop OTA" The only problem was like what I said earlier use internal mem, honestly I recommend removing your SD if you have one in because theirs a wipe option and it doesn't seem like its that hard to accidentally hit.
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Thank you I will do tomorrow and report back what rom you flash
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breakyosef said:
Thank you I will do tomorrow and report back what rom you flash
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Just the stock nc2 deodexed, i only chose deodexed because it is more mod friendly if i decide to ever do anything, odexed is supposedly faster but I have not noticed a difference since android reached over 800mhz single core other then boots take a little bit longer, honestly now all I need is to find the sd card permissions fix for KK and im good

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Just the stock nc2 deodexed, i only chose deodexed because it is more mod friendly if i decide to ever do anything, odexed is supposedly faster but I have not noticed a difference since android reached over 800mhz single core other then boots take a little bit longer, honestly now all I need is to find the sd card permissions fix for KK and im good
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Yeah I'm confused on what to flash, I was liking hyper drive but reading comments people experience freezing
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Yeah I'm confused on what to flash, I was liking hyper drive but reading comments people experience freezing
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Just stick with the links in the threads in post 2, rom later on when we got a better safe strap to work with

4.4.4 OTA update with root

Heya. I have a rooted verizon note 3. I see i can get the 4.4.4 ota update. So i uninstalled root via SuperSU. I get an error trying to do the ota update. Is there a way to install this update without having to use odin and flashing stock? I dont want to lose all my appz settings etc. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
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Probably not a good idea to take the update. I'd wait until our trusty devs get ahold of the OTA and do their magic.

Yah, but i get pretty poor 4g for some reason and this update might (is suppose to) fix it. I read a lot of people have unrooted with superSU and installed the OTA update fine but for me it isnt working. Even though i dont have root.
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Yah, but i get pretty poor 4g for some reason and this update might (is suppose to) fix it. I read a lot of people have unrooted with superSU and installed the OTA update fine but for me it isnt working. Even though i dont have root.
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Just install the nk1 modem. That is all you need if you are trying to get better reception.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95897840722641747
Flash with Odin 3.09.

lackdog said:
Heya. I have a rooted verizon note 3. I see i can get the 4.4.4 ota update. So i uninstalled root via SuperSU. I get an error trying to do the ota update. Is there a way to install this update without having to use odin and flashing stock? I dont want to lose all my appz settings etc. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
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That might just of been the best error ever, especially if you use root a lot. No way to go back and no known, released root at the moment for that version. Like above me has said, try flashing the NK1 modem using Odin and see if that improves your signal any.

Well, i just have been using the stock rom, rooted with safestrap. Id like to update to 4.4.4 just to have the latest OTA with whatever various fixes it might have. Before i did the update i uninstalled anything from wanam exposed framework wise. Then i did the "remove root" from superSU. I still have the unlocked lock on the note 3 splash screen after reboot and the OTA fails....says error at install screen. I have read other people have done what i have done and the update worked. What im asking is am i overlooking something? Is it really even possible without using odin and reverting to stock even though i have read people have had sucess????
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lackdog said:
Well, i just have been using the stock rom, rooted with safestrap. Id like to update to 4.4.4 just to have the latest OTA with whatever various fixes it might have. Before i did the update i uninstalled anything from wanam exposed framework wise. Then i did the "remove root" from superSU. I still have the unlocked lock on the note 3 splash screen after reboot and the OTA fails....says error at install screen. I have read other people have done what i have done and the update worked. What im asking is am i overlooking something? Is it really even possible without using odin and reverting to stock even though i have read people have had sucess????
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If you want the benefits "fixes" of the latest, would be be smart to Odin stock so you are clean when you take the OTA.

lackdog said:
Well, i just have been using the stock rom, rooted with safestrap. Id like to update to 4.4.4 just to have the latest OTA with whatever various fixes it might have. Before i did the update i uninstalled anything from wanam exposed framework wise. Then i did the "remove root" from superSU. I still have the unlocked lock on the note 3 splash screen after reboot and the OTA fails....says error at install screen. I have read other people have done what i have done and the update worked. What im asking is am i overlooking something? Is it really even possible without using odin and reverting to stock even though i have read people have had sucess????
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You do realize...that if you take the OTA...you WILL lose root. At this point in time...there is no known way to root 4.4.4 and the latest OTA.
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how to track 4.4.4 rooting progress?
donc113 said:
You do realize...that if you take the OTA...you WILL lose root. At this point in time...there is no known way to root 4.4.4 and the latest OTA.
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I too have read ambiguous posts of people who have used the 4.4.4 OTA on a towelroot'ed Verizon Note 3s. I've been skeptical that this would work and keep root so thanks for clarifying.
I have a question though. Where should I look to keep track of the latest news about a root technique for a Verizon Note 3? Also, is there a place to contribute to a bounty for someone who can figure this out?
I ask because If you google "samsung note 3 Verizon 4.4.4 towelroot" there are tons of hits, but most of them are from eons ago and while I root my phone, I am not a developer, and so don't know the lay of the land. In the past I've just searched for "root verizon samsung note 3" and crawled through the resulting mound of irrelevant material until eventually I found the answer. Or is the answer simply that every few days I search again to see if anything new pops up?
I realize this is a totally newbie question, but I'm a long-time newbie: I've been rooting my phones for years but I don't have a lot of phones and updates only come out every so often so I never really move up the learning curve of how to do this quickly and easily. I suspect others have the same problem. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

lackdog said:
Yah, but i get pretty poor 4g for some reason and this update might (is suppose to) fix it. I read a lot of people have unrooted with superSU and installed the OTA update fine but for me it isnt working. Even though i dont have root.
My phone messed up earlier this week and I had to use repair assistant and when I did it updated me to NK1 KitKat 4.4.4 and I lost root and can not get it back plus the reception issue is still terrible.
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Marlon1691 said:
I too have read ambiguous posts of people who have used the 4.4.4 OTA on a towelroot'ed Verizon Note 3s. I've been skeptical that this would work and keep root so thanks for clarifying.
I have a question though. Where should I look to keep track of the latest news about a root technique for a Verizon Note 3? Also, is there a place to contribute to a bounty for someone who can figure this out?
I ask because If you google "samsung note 3 Verizon 4.4.4 towelroot" there are tons of hits, but most of them are from eons ago and while I root my phone, I am not a developer, and so don't know the lay of the land. In the past I've just searched for "root verizon samsung note 3" and crawled through the resulting mound of irrelevant material until eventually I found the answer. Or is the answer simply that every few days I search again to see if anything new pops up?
I realize this is a totally newbie question, but I'm a long-time newbie: I've been rooting my phones for years but I don't have a lot of phones and updates only come out every so often so I never really move up the learning curve of how to do this quickly and easily. I suspect others have the same problem. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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It likely is possible to update and keep root. But if after updating you screw up a mod, etc. and need to get back to stock you will lose root permanently.

flashing modem
leroybrute said:
Just install the nk1 modem. That is all you need if you are trying to get better reception.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95897840722641747
Flash with Odin 3.09.
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Hello I see flashing with odin 3.09, I think I have 3.29- does it matter and I am on biggins rom as well. You dont have to unroot or anything?
Thanls,
TJ

tjmethod said:
Hello I see flashing with odin 3.09, I think I have 3.29- does it matter and I am on biggins rom as well. You dont have to unroot or anything?
Thanls,
TJ
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There is no Odin 3.29 out. Just Google Odin 3.09 and download to your desktop if you don't
already have it. Then flash the modem to your phone. Don't unroot.

Odin 3.09
leroybrute said:
There is no Odin 3.29 out. Just Google Odin 3.09 and download to your desktop if you don't
already have it. Then flash the modem to your phone. Don't unroot.
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Hi I did have the 3.09, plugged in as media & media 3.0 but it didnt work- any ideas?... I think I have plenty of space. Attached is is the screen I get on Odin.
Thanks,
TJ

tjmethod said:
Hi I did have the 3.09, plugged in as media & media 3.0 but it didnt work- any ideas?... I think I have plenty of space. Attached is is the screen I get on Odin.
Thanks,
TJ
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You need to put your phone in download mode before plugging into pc. Make sure debugging is checked in developer settings.

Thanks…
I forgot the download mode and to check the debug- always in a rush…
Ill check it when I get in- thanks again

tjmethod said:
I forgot the download mode and to check the debug- always in a rush…
Ill check it when I get in- thanks again
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No, I thank you... Ha

GoNavyMike said:
lackdog said:
Yah, but i get pretty poor 4g for some reason and this update might (is suppose to) fix it. I read a lot of people have unrooted with superSU and installed the OTA update fine but for me it isnt working. Even though i dont have root.
My phone messed up earlier this week and I had to use repair assistant and when I did it updated me to NK1 KitKat 4.4.4 and I lost root and can not get it back plus the reception issue is still terrible.
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Verizon forced me to upgrade before they would troubleshoot my phone.
I was not able to do it OTA, but using the Verizon upgrade tool works.
Now I lost root, & I gained a whole bunch of bloatware. Very frustrating
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Brainfire2 said:
GoNavyMike said:
Verizon forced me to upgrade before they would troubleshoot my phone.
I was not able to do it OTA, but using the Verizon upgrade tool works.
Now I lost root, & I gained a whole bunch of bloatware. Very frustrating
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That is why you should always tell them you are on the latest firmware
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I read about 4.4.4 and didn't like what they took away from 4.4.2. I won't go to it. If I were you I'd 'towelroot'- (get the simple steps on xda), and 'beanstown 106' has all the firmwares for these phones, put the nc4 on w/ 4.4.2, then install biggins rom v7, then upgrade via dirty flash with 8.0 then immediately w/ 8.3- fast touch response and after about 3-4 days, you'lI be getting twice the battery life… I jumped up to the new v9 but they dont have the theme for it yet. I miss the Kromex blue on black…

[Q] Need Help Updating AT&T S.Galaxy 4 V. 4.2.2 Rooted to Newest Version AT&T

Hey guys,
I ran a search but I don't understand half the things people are writing. I would greatly appreciate it if someone could please explain to me my options. In layman's terms, as I do not understand half the abbreviations and jargons here.
I rooted my phone over a year ago and really don't remember much about the process. I can't download important apps from Google Play anymore as they require newer versions than 4.2.2... So I'm stuck on this old version and need to update ASAP.
I have ONLY rooted the phone. I haven't done any mods or installed any ROMS. It's on stock AT&T Rom. (sometimes I wonder why I even bothered in the first place).
Can someone please point me in the right direction, I want a regular STOCK AT&T newest version, whether it stays rooted or not that's fine, but a newer version, KitKat preferably. What are my options? The simplest method would help me the most.
Things I really need backed up: My Text Messages, Voicemail, Call Logs, Whatsapp Messages etc. What is the best way to back that up? If I use Titanium Backup, and I don't have root after I update, Titanium Backup would be obsolete. So what would my other option?
Please help.
Much appreciated,

Are you sure you want to update from 4.2.2. You probably have the option to flash custom roms on your phone. There are many custom roms that that'll put 4.4.4 on your phone. Since you're rooted get terminal emulator from the play store. In it type
getprop ro.bootloader
If the last three characters are mdb or mdl you have a lot of options. I can help walk you through on how to get a custom rom on your phone.
You can update your firmware and bootloader to 4.4.4 too but you'll lose the option to flash most custom roms.
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jd1639 said:
Are you sure you want to update from 4.2.2. You probably have the option to flash custom roms on your phone. There are many custom roms that that'll put 4.4.4 on your phone. Since you're rooted get terminal emulator from the play store. In it type
getprop ro.bootloader
If the last three characters are mdb or mdl you have a lot of options. I can help walk you through on how to get a custom rom on your phone.
You can update your firmware and bootloader to 4.4.4 too but you'll lose the option to flash most custom roms.
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Thanks bud,
I got I337UCUAMF3
I'll be honest, I haven't really messed with any custom ROMS before. I just use the stock AT&T one. But I would like to upgrade to KitKat so my phone is faster and can download / upgrade the latest Apps. Lollipop isn't out for the AT&T Samsung S4 right?

Kepela523 said:
Thanks bud,
I got I337UCUAMF3
I'll be honest, I haven't really messed with any custom ROMS before. I just use the stock AT&T one. But I would like to upgrade to KitKat so my phone is faster and can download / upgrade the latest Apps. Lollipop isn't out for the AT&T Samsung S4 right?
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Will the phone Not download the latest 4.4.4 from the phone settings?? Settings/More/About Device/Software Update. It must be connected to WiFi to download!!! Or you can get the AT&T S4 i337 to Stock 4.4.4 NJ4 Kit Kat Scroll down this page, easy to do. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/guide-odin-to-stock-updating-rooting-t2926642

tailgunner9 said:
Will the phone Not download the latest 4.4.4 from the phone settings?? Settings/More/About Device/Software Update. It must be connected to WiFi to download!!!
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No. My phone is rooted... Is it supposed to download to 4.4? And also couldn't there be issues with that?

I found this post. So I know this is ONE option: But I'll lose my Root. Which is fine if that's my only option.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2728462
As the OP says, I will lose ROOT. So my question would be, If I back up using Titanium Backup, how can I restore my backup if Titanium Backup works only on ROOT? This is very important.
@ jd1639 - He had mentioned there were several other options, so I will wait to hear them, and I can make a decision from there. Otherwise, I may have to fork out another $150 - $200 Bucks on a Samsung Galaxy S5 or S6. depending which suits my needs.
Many thanks for the replies!

Kepela523 said:
I found this post. So I know this is ONE option: But I'll lose my Root. Which is fine if that's my only option.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2728462
As the OP says, I will lose ROOT. So my question would be, If I back up using Titanium Backup, how can I restore my backup if Titanium Backup works only on ROOT? This is very important.
@ jd1639 - He had mentioned there were several other options, so I will wait to hear them, and I can make a decision from there. Otherwise, I may have to fork out another $150 - $200 Bucks on a Samsung Galaxy S5 or S6. depending which suits my needs.
Many thanks for the replies!
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You're on mf3 bootloader which doesn't really allow you to flash any roms anyway. You'd have to use safestrap.
What I'd do is flash the nb1 tar file in Odin. That'll update you to 4.4 and the device should then ota update itself from there. You will lose root, you can root it again if you want. See this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50912149
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jd1639 said:
You're on mf3 bootloader which doesn't really allow you to flash any roms anyway. You'd have to use safestrap.
What I'd do is flash the nb1 tar file in Odin. That'll update you to 4.4 and the device should then ota update itself from there. You will lose root, you can root it again if you want. See this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50912149
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Thanks JD, do you know if this wipes my phone? In other words, does it factory reset my phone?

Yes Flash the NB1 Stock file as he said. But you are going to loose Root and any pictures etc. stored on phone memory, so copy them to your PC or SD card. I always like to take SD card out just in case when I flash just in case it may erase it. But after you flash NB1 Stock or the Stock Root it is like a phone and have to set it up. Then it should Update to 4.4.4 itself from the settings/ Software update. Good luck. Any problem let us now.

Ah cheers,
Last question: Do you recommend the First or second option?
I337UCUFNB1_4.4_Stock_Odin_tar
I337UCUFNB1_4.4_Rootable_Stock_Odin_tar
Just a bit confusing as why he would post two separate links? I'm interpreting the first cannot be rooted ever.
Thanks again to the both of you for helping with this.

Kepela523 said:
Ah cheers,
Last question: Do you recommend the First or second option?
I337UCUFNB1_4.4_Stock_Odin_tar
I337UCUFNB1_4.4_Rootable_Stock_Odin_tar
Just a bit confusing as why he would post two separate links? I'm interpreting the first cannot be rooted ever.
Thanks again to the both of you for helping with this.
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It's possible to root even the 4.4.4. It just gets a little trickier to do it and you have to flash modules in Odin. In the general forum see "all things at&t....." by guut13
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Kepela523 said:
Ah cheers,
Last question: Do you recommend the First or second option?
I337UCUFNB1_4.4_Stock_Odin_tar
I337UCUFNB1_4.4_Rootable_Stock_Odin_tar
Just a bit confusing as why he would post two separate links? I'm interpreting the first cannot be rooted ever.
Thanks again to the both of you for helping with this.
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Yep I think you are correct. So if you want to root again use the Rootable to flash in Odin. Once you go from Jelly Bean to Kit Kat bootloaders are Locked for some .tar Same for Lollipop, they have not been able to root and unlock bootloader as yet. Just follow the steps and take your time and all will be good. Have done it several times on mine with Odin.

Hey guys, I just wanted to take the time and thank you both for the help. I finally updated today. After backing up all my data and making sure everything was safe to go. Bam! I did exactly as you suggested and had zero issues... I am now on 4.4.2
There were a couple hiccups along the way, but I figured them out without too much of a hassle.
Cheers again and best of luck to the both of you!