Finally decided to jump into the tablet market and decided to choose the gtab.
But I'm in a bit of a weird position so here I am asking for your help/opinions.
Background:
Currently living in S.Korea
I want to get the 8.9 tab but a couple of problems:
The 8.9 gtab is exclusive to KT (phone carrier) and that means I'd have to pay monthly for data (Roughly $700 for a 2 year contract 16gb version). Wifi version only 8.9 gtab does not exist here as far as i know, and cannot be purchased outside of KT.
I have a few friends in the United States that can send me one, but I'm worried about and mishaps/warranty issues.
10.1 isn't totally out of the picture as it's easier to pick up in Korea than the 8.9.
Here are my questions that would help me out immensely! (Please be kind as I am a tablet noob).
1. For either 8.9 or 10.1: If I want to root my device and try out some roms on the dev pages. Is this compatible if I buy the gtab in Korea? Different firmware, hardware, blah blah?? I believe the korean model supports DMB which I don't care for, and might have a retractable antenna on top.
(Ex. if US retail version is p7310, the models im looking at in korea says M380W) How do I find out if I can root/rom the Korean version?
1a. If 1 is yes. I'll consider purchasing the 8.9(KT) or 10.1 in Korea
1b. If 1 is no. I'll have to consider purchasing 8.9 in the states.
aigoya said:
Finally decided to jump into the tablet market and decided to choose the gtab.
But I'm in a bit of a weird position so here I am asking for your help/opinions.
Background:
Currently living in S.Korea
I want to get the 8.9 tab but a couple of problems:
The 8.9 gtab is exclusive to KT (phone carrier) and that means I'd have to pay monthly for data (Roughly $700 for a 2 year contract 16gb version). Wifi version only 8.9 gtab does not exist here as far as i know, and cannot be purchased outside of KT.
I have a few friends in the United States that can send me one, but I'm worried about and mishaps/warranty issues.
10.1 isn't totally out of the picture as it's easier to pick up in Korea than the 8.9.
Here are my questions that would help me out immensely! (Please be kind as I am a tablet noob).
1. For either 8.9 or 10.1: If I want to root my device and try out some roms on the dev pages. Is this compatible if I buy the gtab in Korea? Different firmware, hardware, blah blah?? I believe the korean model supports DMB which I don't care for, and might have a retractable antenna on top.
(Ex. if US retail version is p7310, the models im looking at in korea says M380W) How do I find out if I can root/rom the Korean version?
1a. If 1 is yes. I'll consider purchasing the 8.9(KT) or 10.1 in Korea
1b. If 1 is no. I'll have to consider purchasing 8.9 in the states.
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I don't know too much about the Korean models in particular, so I can't speak for them. However, as far as root is concerned, both the WiFi and 3G "world" models (P73XX) are rooted now. As far the customer service packs, that is determined the first time you power up the device, when it asks you what language/region you're in; it'll set things accordingly.
Personally, I wouldn't expect that the Korean specific models will receive very much attention from the developer community (unless you would like to contribute to our Korean friends here!).
Speaking of development, considering how new this device is, it hasn't picked up much momentum from the development community just yet; so far we have root and one ROM, and that one is in its early stages yet. That said, considering that the 8.9 has only very minor differences in the hardware compared to the more mature 10.1, I expect we should see a lot more development fairly soon.
Here's what I would recommend in your situation: If your concern is community development support, if possible, stick to models which are most popular globally and avoid anything which is carrier specific. Unless, of course, the global models lack carrier specific features which you can't do without.
So, Global P73XX:
Root? Yep!
Custom ROM's? Yes, but only 1... so far...
Korean 8.9:
Root? Unknown. Maybe?
Custom ROM's? See Root...
Thank you jade for your response.
To clarify:
1.
When you mention "korean models", are you talking about the kt carrier specific gtab 8.9? Does the "world models" include the 10.1 that i can purchase here in korea?
world models(korean, usa 10.1) vs korean models (korean 8.9). . Correct?
2.
"So, Global P73XX: Root? Yep! Custom ROM's? Yes, but only 1... so far... "
Only 1 so far? I see a few in the dev forum.. Ie inparis, Starburst, ect. What am i missing here hehe?
From your advice, it seems that my options are narrowed to the Korean 10.1 or the usa 8.9.
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aigoya said:
Thank you jade for your response.
To clarify:
1.
When you mention "korean models", are you talking about the kt carrier specific gtab 8.9? Does the "world models" include the 10.1 that i can purchase here in korea?
world models(korean, usa 10.1) vs korean models (korean 8.9). . Correct?
2.
"So, Global P73XX: Root? Yep! Custom ROM's? Yes, but only 1... so far... "
Only 1 so far? I see a few in the dev forum.. Ie inparis, Starburst, ect. What am i missing here hehe?
From your advice, it seems that my options are narrowed to the Korean 10.1 or the usa 8.9.
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When I say carrier specific, yes that would be the KT 8.9 I think. Just so that I'm being accurate, the KT 8.9 is a custom LTE version with DVB correct? If so, the hardware is probably too different for the development being done here to be applicable to that specific model.
As for the 10.1 inch model over in Korea, if it is also a P75XX, then that is the same model as sold around the rest of the world, so you should be fine with that.
P75XX = 10.1 inch tab
P73XX = 8.9 inch tab
I was referring to the 8.9 tab development so far. AFIK, Overcome is the only ROM available for that model at the moment.
From the Moderators --- We are working on creating a section dedicated for the NOTE LTE Version please be patient we hear you........
The "Samsung Galaxy Note",
that some call "Galaxy Note International",
is the "Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000".
Samsung SGH-i717 Galaxy Note LTE (At&t) is *NOT* a version of the Galaxy Note N7000.
The Galaxy Note LTE i717 is the US version of the "Galaxy Note LTE SHV-E160(S)"
The Galaxy Note LTE i717 is a *different product* with:
- different hardware,
- different speed,
- different CPU,
- different GPU,
- different kernel,
- different benchmark results,
- different weight (182 gramms)
- with LTE 700
To make this even more clear:
Samsung firmware for the N7000 will NOT work on the i717
Cyanogenmod for N7000 will NOT work on i717
EVERYTHING that is made to work specifically on the N7000 will NOT work on the i717
It is like the Galaxy SII i9100 (Exynos) and the Galaxy SII Skyrocket i727 (Snapdragon S3). Also they are not the same device.
The Galaxy Note LTE i717 and the Galaxy SII Skyrocket i727 are in the same family (both with a Snapdragon S3).
Galaxy Note N7000 (Exynos - 800x1280 - 1.024.000 pixels):
GLBenchmark 2.1 Egypt High : 2827 Frames (25.0 Fps)
GLBenchmark 2.1 Egypt Standard : 3012 Frames (26.7 Fps)
Galaxy Note LTE (Snapdragon S3 - 800x1280 - 1.024.000 pixels):
GLBenchmark 2.1 Egypt High : 1014 Frames (9.0 Fps)
GLBenchmark 2.1 Egypt Standard : 2425 Frames (21.5 Fps)
Galaxy S II I9100 (Exynos - 480x800 - 384.000 pixels):
GLBenchmark 2.1 Egypt High : 5727 Frames (50.7 Fps)
GLBenchmark 2.1 Egypt Standard : 6283 Frames (55.6 Fps)
GLBenchmark 2.1 Pro High : 2908 Frames (58.2 Fps)
Galaxy S II LTE (Snapdragon S3 - 480x800 - 384.000 pixels)):
GLBenchmark 2.1 Egypt High : 2292 Frames (20.3 Fps)
GLBenchmark 2.1 Egypt Standard : 4375 Frames (38.7 Fps)
GLBenchmark 2.1 Pro High : 2067 Frames (41.3 Fps)
Here a clear comparison:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=3100&id2=3288&id3=3212&id4=3290
Here a benchmark comparison:
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare....1=Samsung GT-N7000 Galaxy&D2=Samsung SGH-I717
Im guessing you are demanding for new forum on LTE version??
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naimmkassim said:
Im guessing you are demanding for new forum on LTE version??
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I'm pretty sure he is trying to quell the coming onslaught of questions regarding the ATT GNote, soon to be released in the United States from occuring in this section or in the International GNote section.
I can almost guarantee that some non readers will go ahead and ask a dozen questions as to compatibility of roms/kernels/mods/themes/everything.
Having this thread (Which SHOULD get a sticky) allows us as fellow members to flame/troll/ignore/laugh at anyone who ask questions or screws up their phone by flashing something on an incorrect device
Thanks for the heads up. As soon as At&t release the phone i'll be jumping all over this thread.
legion1911 said:
The "Samsung Galaxy Note",
that some call "Galaxy Note International",
is the "Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000ZBA".
All our official Samsung roms have "GT-N7000ZBA" at the beginning of their name.
Samsung SGH-i717 Galaxy Note LTE (At&t) is *NOT* a version of the Galaxy Note N7000.
The Galaxy Note LTE i717 is the US version of the "Galaxy Note LTE SHV-E160(S)"
The Galaxy Note LTE i717 is a *different product* with:
- different hardware,
- different speed,
- different CPU,
- different GPU,
- different kernel,
- different benchmark results,
- different weight (182 gramms)
- with LTE 700
The Galaxy Note LTE i717 will probably get its own XDA forum (it is a different Smartphone).
To make this even more clear:
Samsung firmware for the N7000ZBA will NOT work on the i717
Cyanogenmod for N7000ZBA will NOT work on i717
EVERYTHING that is made to work specifically on the N7000ZBA will NOT work on the i717
It is like the i9100 and the i727 Skyrocket. Also they are not the same device.
The Galaxy Note LTE i717 and the i727 Skyrocket are in the same family (notice the similar name?).
Here a clear comparison:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=3100&id2=3288&id3=3212&id4=3290
Here a benchmark comparison:
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare....1=Samsung GT-N7000 Galaxy&D2=Samsung SGH-I717 http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare....=Samsung GT-N7000 Galaxy&D2=Samsung SHV-E160S
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Now I'm really wondering what version I should get. I'm worried about the warranty, or lack of, for the international version, but I'm also worried about the major differences between the International version and the AT&T version, as well as what LTE will do to battery life...
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Although, looking at how much International prices have skyrocketed, I'm not so sure about that version....
stefan.buddle said:
Having this thread (Which SHOULD get a sticky) allows us as fellow members to flame/troll/ignore/laugh at anyone who ask questions or screws up their phone by flashing something on an incorrect device
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A sticky isn't license to be a jerk.
Even with the warnings, I bet it isn't 24 hours after the at&t version is
released, that there will be threads about "I just installed xxx rom from THIS
forum on my new at&t note and all it does is stick at the boot screen".
Betcha 5 bucks
p51d007 said:
Even with the warnings, I bet it isn't 24 hours after the at&t version is
released, that there will be threads about "I just installed xxx rom from THIS
forum on my new at&t note and all it does is stick at the boot screen".
Betcha 5 bucks
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Good news is, Odin won't let you install Exynos or Tegra ROMs on a Snapdragon device.
We shouldn't have to worry about that sort of thing until a working insecure recovery (CWM) is made for the 717.
wish 4 cores!!
legion1911 said:
The Galaxy Note LTE i717 is a *different product* with:
- different hardware,
- different speed,
- different CPU,
- different GPU,
- different kernel,
- different benchmark results,
- different weight (182 gramms)
- with LTE 700
The Galaxy Note LTE i717 will probably get its own XDA forum (it is a different Smartphone).
To make this even more clear:
Samsung firmware for the N7000ZBA will NOT work on the i717
Cyanogenmod for N7000ZBA will NOT work on i717
EVERYTHING that is made to work specifically on the N7000ZBA will NOT work on the i717
It is like the i9100 and the i727 Skyrocket. Also they are not the same device.
The Galaxy Note LTE i717 and the i727 Skyrocket are in the same family (notice the similar name?).
Here a clear comparison:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=3100&id2=3288&id3=3212&id4=3290
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You're telling us its different, when the site you linked the comparison tells us that they both use qualcomm. Only thing I noticed while skimming is the LTE bands are different
Edit: didn't see the 4th device lol
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Ty op for heads up, the notes verisions are showing different rom capacitys', how does rom capacity effect performance for updates/multi tasking?
stefan.buddle said:
I'm pretty sure he is trying to quell the coming onslaught of questions regarding the ATT GNote, soon to be released in the United States from occuring in this section or in the International GNote section.
I can almost guarantee that some non readers will go ahead and ask a dozen questions as to compatibility of roms/kernels/mods/themes/everything.
Having this thread (Which SHOULD get a sticky) allows us as fellow members to flame/troll/ignore/laugh at anyone who ask questions or screws up their phone by flashing something on an incorrect device
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There are nicer ways to draw attention to the thread (and request a sticky) than suggesting anyone flame/troll/ignore/laugh at others. I am bringing this thread to the attention of my co-mod. Since I will be getting the AT&T version, I will end up taking care of these new user issues - do not make my job harder
it was a joke about trolling people who dont follow directions and mess up their phone
I am in the camp of buying the i7171 or N7000. I have to wait until march 2013 to buy the i717 at subsidy price or fork over the full amount when it comes out. For that amount, i might as well buy the N7000. The att version of the touch pro was the last phone that i forked over the full amount and that was money better spent on a stripper. In my opionion, att version was a big bust. I was also in the top 5% for two straight months and got throttled. In my area, "3G" is slow as heck and i was surprised to learn it can get alot slower than that. To buy the att i717 or to hell with att and get the N7000? That is the question on my mind.
My opinion is that every post regarding Galaxy Note LTE i717 is OFF-TOPIC on this forum.
It helps nobody to encourage confusion between two different hardware devices.
legion1911 said:
My opinion is that every post regarding Galaxy Note LTE i717 is OFF-TOPIC on this forum.
It helps nobody to encourage confusion between two different hardware devices.
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No it is not...not right now.
drpal181 said:
I am in the camp of buying the i7171 or N7000. I have to wait until march 2013 to buy the i717 at subsidy price or fork over the full amount when it comes out. For that amount, i might as well buy the N7000. The att version of the touch pro was the last phone that i forked over the full amount and that was money better spent on a stripper. In my opionion, att version was a big bust. I was also in the top 5% for two straight months and got throttled. In my area, "3G" is slow as heck and i was surprised to learn it can get alot slower than that. To buy the att i717 or to hell with att and get the N7000? That is the question on my mind.
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In the same boat and I have a couple upgrades to burn......But The International versions are developer supported to a much greater extent and we won;t have LTE here until 2013 and I like being on the dumbphone plans with two phones and saving $240 a year and getting UL data on both our phones meaning not having to count it (becasue we don;t use more than 1GB a month anyway....
. We have a couple International warranty less (used) i9100s and I always bought Nokias unlocked new before they faded and never had a warranty issue. Its a risk worth taking. I take two risks...I buy used and no warranty. So far so good.
I may use my upgrades to buy and sell a couple iPhone 5s when they come out. The 3GS did very well as a resale.
The SGS II still smokes both devices......on paper.
legion1911 said:
My opinion is that every post regarding Galaxy Note LTE i717 is OFF-TOPIC on this forum.
It helps nobody to encourage confusion between two different hardware devices.
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Then don't encourage it. Its as simple as redirecting people to this thread if they have any questions. And last I checked, it said GALAXY NOTE GENERAL. Not Europe Note, not AT&T Note, etc.
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legion1911 said:
My opinion is that every post regarding Galaxy Note LTE i717 is OFF-TOPIC on this forum.
It helps nobody to encourage confusion between two different hardware devices.
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Please leave moderation to the moderators.
Corriewf said:
No it is not...not right now.
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Exactly right.
Sinful Animosity said:
Then don't encourage it. Its as simple as redirecting people to this thread if they have any questions. And last I checked, it said GALAXY NOTE GENERAL. Not Europe Note, not AT&T Note, etc.
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We are working on getting a separate development forum for the AT&T version. the rest of the discussions will continue as they have.
reinbeau said:
Please leave moderation to the moderators.
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To express an opinion on what I consider off-topic is not moderation.
My opinion:
Want the Note N7000? Buy the Note N7000.
Buy the I717? You get the Note LTE, with the Note LTE hardware, Note LTE software, Note LTE I717 buttons and a Note LTE XDA forum.
The I717 Note LTE may continue to be confused with the N7000 Note here (to not make I717 owners feel lonely and segregated).
So when someone writes here, we will always have to ask:
Are you writing about the N7000 or I717?
Is this opinion about the N7000 or I717?
Is this bug about the N7000 or I717?
And that benchmark, is for N7000 or I717?
Nice protective cover, is it for N7000 or I717?
This does not work on mine. Is it for N7000 or I717?
Okay I have a new galaxy tab. I also have the SGS II, which is rooted so I am well aware of the process. I have looked all over these threads and can't seem to find a rom that works for the 4G and wifi tab. I see some that works for 3G. Need some assistance on this before I dive in and root. Thanks.
If you're talking about the sch-i905 (verizon LTE model of the galaxy tab 10.1) the answer is no. There is no CM9 ROM available that has working LTE.
So if you're in need of mobile data using the verizon version of the tab you'll have to just root 3.2 and wait.
I have the T mobile 4G galaxy Tab. I am guessing its the same thing though. Thanks.
No it's not the same thing.
When it comes to differentiating device hardware types on mobile broadband devices one should never rely on the 3g/4g nomenclature to draw model comparisons. Various carriers use the terms generally for marketing purposes. The reality is there are Galaxy Tab 10.1 devices marketed by some carriers as 4g that are LTE and some that are not. I'm not arguing that HSPA+ isn't 4g mind you, but there definitely is a difference between an LTE Galaxy Tab 10.1 and another model that's otherwise marketed as 4g.
Bottom line; look at specific device model numbers, not the 4g nomenclature, your T-Mobile based tablet is most certainly not the SCH-i905 model on which my response was based.
See Galaxy Tab 10.1 Android Development....search for ics ....
[ROM][KANG]CM9 ICS 10.1 LTE Verizon Preview 01/31/12
Just curious but why isn't there a section for the US Cellular based Note 2? Where should talk of their variant be on xda?
My thoughts exactly verizon has its own thread and its not even been released yet. Ive had my note 2 for a week now and cant find squat for it.