Finally decided to jump into the tablet market and decided to choose the gtab.
But I'm in a bit of a weird position so here I am asking for your help/opinions.
Background:
Currently living in S.Korea
I want to get the 8.9 tab but a couple of problems:
The 8.9 gtab is exclusive to KT (phone carrier) and that means I'd have to pay monthly for data (Roughly $700 for a 2 year contract 16gb version). Wifi version only 8.9 gtab does not exist here as far as i know, and cannot be purchased outside of KT.
I have a few friends in the United States that can send me one, but I'm worried about and mishaps/warranty issues.
10.1 isn't totally out of the picture as it's easier to pick up in Korea than the 8.9.
Here are my questions that would help me out immensely! (Please be kind as I am a tablet noob).
1. For either 8.9 or 10.1: If I want to root my device and try out some roms on the dev pages. Is this compatible if I buy the gtab in Korea? Different firmware, hardware, blah blah?? I believe the korean model supports DMB which I don't care for, and might have a retractable antenna on top.
(Ex. if US retail version is p7310, the models im looking at in korea says M380W) How do I find out if I can root/rom the Korean version?
1a. If 1 is yes. I'll consider purchasing the 8.9(KT) or 10.1 in Korea
1b. If 1 is no. I'll have to consider purchasing 8.9 in the states.
aigoya said:
Finally decided to jump into the tablet market and decided to choose the gtab.
But I'm in a bit of a weird position so here I am asking for your help/opinions.
Background:
Currently living in S.Korea
I want to get the 8.9 tab but a couple of problems:
The 8.9 gtab is exclusive to KT (phone carrier) and that means I'd have to pay monthly for data (Roughly $700 for a 2 year contract 16gb version). Wifi version only 8.9 gtab does not exist here as far as i know, and cannot be purchased outside of KT.
I have a few friends in the United States that can send me one, but I'm worried about and mishaps/warranty issues.
10.1 isn't totally out of the picture as it's easier to pick up in Korea than the 8.9.
Here are my questions that would help me out immensely! (Please be kind as I am a tablet noob).
1. For either 8.9 or 10.1: If I want to root my device and try out some roms on the dev pages. Is this compatible if I buy the gtab in Korea? Different firmware, hardware, blah blah?? I believe the korean model supports DMB which I don't care for, and might have a retractable antenna on top.
(Ex. if US retail version is p7310, the models im looking at in korea says M380W) How do I find out if I can root/rom the Korean version?
1a. If 1 is yes. I'll consider purchasing the 8.9(KT) or 10.1 in Korea
1b. If 1 is no. I'll have to consider purchasing 8.9 in the states.
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I don't know too much about the Korean models in particular, so I can't speak for them. However, as far as root is concerned, both the WiFi and 3G "world" models (P73XX) are rooted now. As far the customer service packs, that is determined the first time you power up the device, when it asks you what language/region you're in; it'll set things accordingly.
Personally, I wouldn't expect that the Korean specific models will receive very much attention from the developer community (unless you would like to contribute to our Korean friends here!).
Speaking of development, considering how new this device is, it hasn't picked up much momentum from the development community just yet; so far we have root and one ROM, and that one is in its early stages yet. That said, considering that the 8.9 has only very minor differences in the hardware compared to the more mature 10.1, I expect we should see a lot more development fairly soon.
Here's what I would recommend in your situation: If your concern is community development support, if possible, stick to models which are most popular globally and avoid anything which is carrier specific. Unless, of course, the global models lack carrier specific features which you can't do without.
So, Global P73XX:
Root? Yep!
Custom ROM's? Yes, but only 1... so far...
Korean 8.9:
Root? Unknown. Maybe?
Custom ROM's? See Root...
Thank you jade for your response.
To clarify:
1.
When you mention "korean models", are you talking about the kt carrier specific gtab 8.9? Does the "world models" include the 10.1 that i can purchase here in korea?
world models(korean, usa 10.1) vs korean models (korean 8.9). . Correct?
2.
"So, Global P73XX: Root? Yep! Custom ROM's? Yes, but only 1... so far... "
Only 1 so far? I see a few in the dev forum.. Ie inparis, Starburst, ect. What am i missing here hehe?
From your advice, it seems that my options are narrowed to the Korean 10.1 or the usa 8.9.
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aigoya said:
Thank you jade for your response.
To clarify:
1.
When you mention "korean models", are you talking about the kt carrier specific gtab 8.9? Does the "world models" include the 10.1 that i can purchase here in korea?
world models(korean, usa 10.1) vs korean models (korean 8.9). . Correct?
2.
"So, Global P73XX: Root? Yep! Custom ROM's? Yes, but only 1... so far... "
Only 1 so far? I see a few in the dev forum.. Ie inparis, Starburst, ect. What am i missing here hehe?
From your advice, it seems that my options are narrowed to the Korean 10.1 or the usa 8.9.
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When I say carrier specific, yes that would be the KT 8.9 I think. Just so that I'm being accurate, the KT 8.9 is a custom LTE version with DVB correct? If so, the hardware is probably too different for the development being done here to be applicable to that specific model.
As for the 10.1 inch model over in Korea, if it is also a P75XX, then that is the same model as sold around the rest of the world, so you should be fine with that.
P75XX = 10.1 inch tab
P73XX = 8.9 inch tab
I was referring to the 8.9 tab development so far. AFIK, Overcome is the only ROM available for that model at the moment.
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Hello,
I'm eyeing down a Galaxy Tab 7.7 but i'm in a fuddle with versions. As far as i can understand, aside from 16/32/whatever HDD versions, there are a few main ones:
-P6800 which is the international designation for the WiFi/3G version and is more expensive.
-P6810 which is the international designation for just the WiFi version and is cheaper.
-GT6800/GT6810 which i have no ideea what's different about it from the P's. Is it still just a P6800 just named GT-P6800/GT-6800 on some sites?
I so wish end-clients would have more easy access to model numbers and options instead of just blindly buying "a Galaxy Tab 7.7".
There is no difference as far as I know from the P vs GT. there is also the LTE version of the 7.7 which has 3G and wifi as well.
If you need 3G then get that model if you will not need 3g, wifi model is fine, that is the one I got and happy with it apart from honeycomb.
True, and LTE which is Verizon's version afaik but which is not something i'd want to pursue, being an EU guy.
But yes, 3G is a must for me.
The Verizon SCH-i815 variant does have the IR blaster.
The gt-p6800 no ir but I did get 32gig.
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Hey I have an opportunity to grab a Korean S4 (SHV-E300K/S). I am wondering if there will be any issues to using this phone in HK? The LTE bands appear to be compatible. I was wondering if the phone will be locked or if there is something that just won't work? I've never been to Korea so I don't know how phones are sold there so any insight will be appreciated.
Thanks in Advance!
Did some digging around and apparently KT telecom, (1 of the 2 large operators in South Korea) did not lock the previous release of the S3.
Also including the article which mentions the LTE bands just in case anyone's interested.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/04/02/galaxy-s4s-korean-variant-shv-e300sk-to-feature-exynos-5-octa-clocked-at-1-8ghz-confirmed-by-fcc/
Still hoping to get some input before pulling the trigger. Thanks
I'm very interested in this, and I've been trying to do some research. I have a best friend who's brother lives in Korea and works at Samsung, and she told me that if I wanted the Korean version, he'd do his best to ship one to my specifications.
Long story short, I want the Exynos + LTE, but the information online is few and in between.
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Well if you can find out anything from that person who works for Samsung that would be much appreciated. I'm willing to pull the trigger if:
a) they sell phones outright off contract in Korea,
b) the phone is carrier unlocked, and
c) I can set English menus.
I am willing to Gamble with the LTE bands and the software compatibility quirks that I may experience.
Perhaps someone from Korea can shed some light?
Thanks.
pygo said:
Well if you can find out anything from that person who works for Samsung that would be much appreciated. I'm willing to pull the trigger if:
a) they sell phones outright off contract in Korea,
b) the phone is carrier unlocked, and
c) I can set English menus.
I am willing to Gamble with the LTE bands and the software compatibility quirks that I may experience.
Perhaps someone from Korea can shed some light?
Thanks.
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To answer your questions,
Phones are available in English menu and you only need to worry about the LTE bands as they are not carrier locked in Korea. You might need to set some settings to work in your country and chances should be high as I heard the Octa supports 20 bands of LTE.
I'm not sure what you meant by outright but you can walk into any shop and buy it if that's what you meant. Alternatively, if you know anyone in Korea they should be able to get it for you but not in the next few days because right now it seems that it's all on contract until stock are more abundant.
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It would be really cool if the Korean GS4 could work with USA LTE. But the price~! Right now, it's being sold for around $1,100 USD~!
What's special about Korean models? Don't other countries have octa too?
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What's special about Korean models? Don't other countries have octa too?
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They have octa + LTE.
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Okay, so I'm very confused. I too have the opportunity to grab a Korean version, but instead of the OP, I reside in the US, would I run into ANY problems if I got this version? LTE I understand might possibly work/might not, but is there anything else to be concerned with?
All galaxy korean version has following problems.
1. All operator too many customizing ==> it will cause unstable, because all known that they request too many modify frameworks also.
2. Too many have bloat apps.(operator apps, avg 10 + apps exist, some apps are not support uninstall, yeah rooting will delete that apps, but it make an another error)
3. UMTS band are only 1900/2100 (official), previous galaxy have only UMTS 2100 (SKT/KT model only, LGU+ model using CDMA 1800(that frequncy only exist in korea over the world)
4. LTE band are only 850/1800. (SKT 850/1800 , KT 1800 / LG U+ 850)
5. Maybe Firmare not compatible with Global version (I930X / N710X )
6. you may not use USSD code (korean all operator doesn't support USSD code, so korean localizing version remove USSD function)
I lived in korea, but i don't use our korean galaxy models. This time I also ordered galaxy s4 on UK. Because UK model is always Europe open model and it has nearly Samsung reference model. (Doesn't have or 1~2 bloat app exist)
i'm very hate too many localizing. it will always phone make unstable.
Pulverizer, thank you for the info! I think I'll be going for the i9500 now.
Thank You to all who took the time to reply!
I'm likely going to get a local machine now to reduce the need to tinker.
This is also a very informative link from an shv-e300 user for any of those who are still fence sitters! Very good information is given at the bottom of page 3!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2253148&page=3
I to was tempted for Korean
This information will keep me to in the US/UK LTE version.
I recently became the proud new owner of a SM-900A NC2 note 3. I had a galaxy mega that broke, and my insurance plan replaced it with the note 3. I was actually excited at first. I had been somewhat regretting my choice and wishing I had gone with the note 3 to begin with. But then I discovered that there is no root option for the NC2 update. Nothing. The same was true of my galaxy mega for a long time (SGH-I527). With both of these devices, I noticed that some models were easily rooted/modded, and others (mine) took ages to get a functioning root.
My plan is to be an early adopter of the Note 4 when it's released in September. I don't want to be caught in the same situation where I own one of the models that is very difficult to hack. I want to buy the most open model that can be used on the AT&T network with LTE (Samsung seems keen to release developer editions for verizon, but not with LTE).
Right now, the most open model of the Note 3 seems to be N9005. I'm not going to outright buy a new note 3 that I plan on replacing in 3 months. But when that time comes, are there some rules of thumb that I should know about to choose the most open model? From my limited experience, I've learned that buying through AT&T is a recipe for slavery. But, there are many non-AT&T options.
So, what's the best choice? an International model? A different LTE carrier's model unlocked? Or, is it too early to tell?
Thanks for the help,
Michael
MrGneissGuy said:
I recently became the proud new owner of a SM-900A NC2 note 3. I had a galaxy mega that broke, and my insurance plan replaced it with the note 3. I was actually excited at first. I had been somewhat regretting my choice and wishing I had gone with the note 3 to begin with. But then I discovered that there is no root option for the NC2 update. Nothing. The same was true of my galaxy mega for a long time (SGH-I527). With both of these devices, I noticed that some models were easily rooted/modded, and others (mine) took ages to get a functioning root.
My plan is to be an early adopter of the Note 4 when it's released in September. I don't want to be caught in the same situation where I own one of the models that is very difficult to hack. I want to buy the most open model that can be used on the AT&T network with LTE (Samsung seems keen to release developer editions for verizon, but not with LTE).
Right now, the most open model of the Note 3 seems to be N9005. I'm not going to outright buy a new note 3 that I plan on replacing in 3 months. But when that time comes, are there some rules of thumb that I should know about to choose the most open model? From my limited experience, I've learned that buying through AT&T is a recipe for slavery. But, there are many non-AT&T options.
So, what's the best choice? an International model? A different LTE carrier's model unlocked? Or, is it too early to tell?
Thanks for the help,
Michael
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snapdragon international unlock version.
Sent from somewhere under the sky, at the corner of this rounded earth.
antique_sonic said:
snapdragon international unlock version.
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Thanks, but I don't plan on re-purchasing the note 3. Do you think the same will be true of the Note 4? Assuming there's no LTE developer edition, will the international version provide the best chance at freedom? Is it too early to speculate?
MrGneissGuy said:
Thanks, but I don't plan on re-purchasing the note 3. Do you think the same will be true of the Note 4? Assuming there's no LTE developer edition, will the international version provide the best chance at freedom? Is it too early to speculate?
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As long as you get the qualcomm version you'll be fine i guess
Isnt it just that the n9005 is more common.
So theres more people playing around with it and ending up with solutions?
And yeah Samsung's attitude against customizing are terrible.
The Note3 will be my last Samsung electronic(s) b.t.w.
snapdragon n9005
MrGneissGuy said:
I recently became the proud new owner of a SM-900A NC2 note 3. I had a galaxy mega that broke, and my insurance plan replaced it with the note 3. I was actually excited at first. I had been somewhat regretting my choice and wishing I had gone with the note 3 to begin with. But then I discovered that there is no root option for the NC2 update. Nothing. The same was true of my galaxy mega for a long time (SGH-I527). With both of these devices, I noticed that some models were easily rooted/modded, and others (mine) took ages to get a functioning root.
My plan is to be an early adopter of the Note 4 when it's released in September. I don't want to be caught in the same situation where I own one of the models that is very difficult to hack. I want to buy the most open model that can be used on the AT&T network with LTE (Samsung seems keen to release developer editions for verizon, but not with LTE).
Right now, the most open model of the Note 3 seems to be N9005. I'm not going to outright buy a new note 3 that I plan on replacing in 3 months. But when that time comes, are there some rules of thumb that I should know about to choose the most open model? From my limited experience, I've learned that buying through AT&T is a recipe for slavery. But, there are many non-AT&T options.
So, what's the best choice? an International model? A different LTE carrier's model unlocked? Or, is it too early to tell?
Thanks for the help,
Michael
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n9005 is the most common and powerful , here in kuwait the stupid exynos version not even released cause people tired of it laggy and fake octa core and no one fancy owning 3g phone anymore
Hi guys! I've been reading lots of threads and specs from the different variants of note 3. After all of them, I ended worst because now I can't decide myself for the version, this is what happens:
I am from Argentina, LTE is being settled and it uses band 4 (1700 for upload, 2100 for download). So this are my options (I don't have too much money so I'm limited to top US $500, I'm buying it there in US).
- AT&T Version (SM - N900A) has the band 4 for my country's LTE. The thing is I see it does not come with headphones and the other matter is, if I buy it unlocked, is it FACTORY unlocked even though is AT&T?
- SM - N9005. I found in all the forum and different web sites that this is the best version (mainly because of hardware). I really would like to buy this one, because I think it would be possible to activate band 4 with modem changes. The only problem is I've seen in the forum no one could (YET, but.. do you see it possible? I don't mind waiting)
- SM - N9000 (International Exynos version). Here in my country they sell only this one. I am buying it in US though because it's really cheaper. If I get this one I know I won't get LTE, but it seems there ir far more support in the SM - N9005.
I want to buy SM-N9005, but if I buy an LTE version and cannot use LTE... is it worth it (due to the other specs)? I don't find AT&T convincing so I try not to buy it.
Which do you recommend me to buy? And I would also be grateful if you reccommend me where to do it. I only know ebay and amazon almost all sellers there have some negative feedback.
Thanks!
mikloskass said:
Hi guys! I've been reading lots of threads and specs from the different variants of note 3. After all of them, I ended worst because now I can't decide myself for the version, this is what happens:
I am from Argentina, LTE is being settled and it uses band 4 (1700 for upload, 2100 for download). So this are my options (I don't have too much money so I'm limited to top US $500, I'm buying it there in US).
- AT&T Version (SM - N900A) has the band 4 for my country's LTE. The thing is I see it does not come with headphones and the other matter is, if I buy it unlocked, is it FACTORY unlocked even though is AT&T?
- SM - N9005. I found in all the forum and different web sites that this is the best version (mainly because of hardware). I really would like to buy this one, because I think it would be possible to activate band 4 with modem changes. The only problem is I've seen in the forum no one could (YET, but.. do you see it possible? I don't mind waiting)
- SM - N9000 (International Exynos version). Here in my country they sell only this one. I am buying it in US though because it's really cheaper. If I get this one I know I won't get LTE, but it seems there ir far more support in the SM - N9005.
I want to buy SM-N9005, but if I buy an LTE version and cannot use LTE... is it worth it (due to the other specs)? I don't find AT&T convincing so I try not to buy it.
Which do you recommend me to buy? And I would also be grateful if you reccommend me where to do it. I only know ebay and amazon almost all sellers there have some negative feedback.
Thanks!
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I've a N9005
I don't regret having bought,my phone has 1~2 years old he work very well, I've no problem with hardware
there are option 4G hlte on setting but i don't know if it wort (no 4G in my contry)
For me, I advise you this model
The tmobile version is like the att version, but without the locked bootloader. SM-N900T
Sent from my leanKernel 3.16 powered stock 4.4.2 SM-N900T
mikloskass said:
Hi guys! I've been reading lots of threads and specs from the different variants of note 3. After all of them, I ended worst because now I can't decide myself for the version, this is what happens:
I am from Argentina, LTE is being settled and it uses band 4 (1700 for upload, 2100 for download). So this are my options (I don't have too much money so I'm limited to top US $500, I'm buying it there in US).
- AT&T Version (SM - N900A) has the band 4 for my country's LTE. The thing is I see it does not come with headphones and the other matter is, if I buy it unlocked, is it FACTORY unlocked even though is AT&T?
- SM - N9005. I found in all the forum and different web sites that this is the best version (mainly because of hardware). I really would like to buy this one, because I think it would be possible to activate band 4 with modem changes. The only problem is I've seen in the forum no one could (YET, but.. do you see it possible? I don't mind waiting)
- SM - N9000 (International Exynos version). Here in my country they sell only this one. I am buying it in US though because it's really cheaper. If I get this one I know I won't get LTE, but it seems there ir far more support in the SM - N9005.
I want to buy SM-N9005, but if I buy an LTE version and cannot use LTE... is it worth it (due to the other specs)? I don't find AT&T convincing so I try not to buy it.
Which do you recommend me to buy? And I would also be grateful if you reccommend me where to do it. I only know ebay and amazon almost all sellers there have some negative feedback.
Thanks!
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Buy note 4 mate. Better than note 3.
Thanks Fadhi, that's what i'll do!
Hey guys,
I've been using the very first Galaxy Note since the day of it's release. After more than 4 years, I now decided it was time for an upgrade. Since I had gotten used to using Cyanogenmod instead of the stock firmware anyway, I opted to buy a used phablet as I had no interest in any kind of warranty provided by Samsung. So I ordered a Galaxy Note 4 from a fairly well-known dealer. When the phone got delivered this morning, it turned out that it is an SM-N910S (which, some places say the S indicates it is the korean version, other places just say it stands for the snapdragon version; but as there were some asian symbols appearing after bootup, I strongly believe it indicates the phone being the korean version) - instead of an SM-N910F (aka international?).
So now I'm wondering whether to return the phone or whether to keep it. After some quick research on the web, I found some sources saying that the built-in hardware was in fact exactly the same as in any other kind of version (including international) and that it was even possible to convert between the versions (saying that the versions only differ in their stock software).
My questions would be:
will I be able to use any kind of (european) SIM card with the device?
will I be able to flash the "regular" CyanogenMod version to this device without any issues? Or am I restricted by having to wait until a CM-version specifically designed for the korean Note 4 comes out?
in general: is it true that those versions only differ in their stock software?
Thank you so much, I'd be very glad if you could help me with my questions!
Kind regards.