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Just installed this, cant believe how nice it looks!
But yeah theres an option now to start and sign in when the phone does, which is appealing because it would be similar to blackberry messenger.
But would this cause a serious drain on battery? Surely its no different to having GTalk running?
nimbuzz does not have push notification like GTalk or the nimbuzz on the iphone so it will drain your battery like mad because its constant connection to stay logged in.
the closes thing to bbm is gtalk atm. or whatsapp when they release it on the android
that sucks, no one I know uses gtalk lol. is whatsapp being released on Android?
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ragmanchu said:
the closes thing to bbm is gtalk atm. or whatsapp when they release it on the android
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Has this development been confirmed?
http://www.whatsapp.com/
WhatsApp will soon be available on two other popular mobile platforms: Android and Nokia Symbian. Follow us on twitter for updates.
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i've been using nimbuzz for my skype account, but always interested to see/try out other clients
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http://www.whatsapp.com/
i've been using nimbuzz for my skype account, but always interested to see/try out other clients
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Hows your battery life when using nimbuzz?
Whatsapp should be released soon but i dont see why people are paying for this app when GTalk does the same if not more and its FREE?
Ask your friends to install GTalk on their devices for now, they might like it =)
Because "WhatsApp" does not need special username or PIN.
You only need your phone number (in international forward) and that's it!
Very nice indeed, but when for Android????
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Hows your battery life when using nimbuzz?
Whatsapp should be released soon but i dont see why people are paying for this app when GTalk does the same if not more and its FREE?
Ask your friends to install GTalk on their devices for now, they might like it =)
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Hows your battery life when using nimbuzz?
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i couldn't really say tbh. my battery life is generally bad anyway *shrug*
having to charge it every day at the moment, probably cos i'm always playing ith it tho.
yeah that's the problem no ones got gtalk lol
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When you install Nimbuzz, does it ALWAYS connected ?
Is it possible to run it on-demand?
Because I might interested in using it as "Skype" client ONLY. And use it when I want to use Skype-call feature.
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When you install Nimbuzz, does it ALWAYS connected ?
Is it possible to run it on-demand?
Because I might interested in using it as "Skype" client ONLY. And use it when I want to use Skype-call feature.
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nimbuzz is always connected and it does not support push notification.
i installed it to use skype but it doesnt support group chat so its a bit useless for me.
But generally skype does not support push notification, not even on there own official apps
Is it possible to turn the connection OFF ?
And only use it just to use Skype for calling (international) land-lines for example?
ragmanchu said:
nimbuzz is always connected and it does not support push notification.
i installed it to use skype but it doesnt support group chat so its a bit useless for me.
But generally skype does not support push notification, not even on there own official apps
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Is it possible to turn the connection OFF ?
And only use it just to use Skype for calling (international) land-lines for example?
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You can sign out which turns the connection off.
so you can sign in when you need to use skype and sign out when your finished
Does anybody see their own picture in conversation? I have in my account, but I /and frieds don`t see it.
I tried Nimbuzz today, but unfortunately I cannot use it to use my Skype account to call (non-skype) landlines / mobile phones
I know, for this feature I need full featured Skype client, correct? And it does not exist on Android !
Nimbuzz has been uninstalled ...
Do you have your mobile number associated with skype in order to send sms and call? I have and have no problems calling mobile numbers from Nimbuzz. I takes credit from my skype account.
Yes, I finally figured it out how to get that ...
BUT ... it is really buggy ...
It only worked for the FIRST TIME ... showing that saved number.
When I modified or added some more in the Skype PC application, logout Skype.
They dont appear on the Nimbuzz.
I tried to login-logout Nimbuzz ... it does not work.
I tried to remove Skype account and added again ... it does not work
I tried to uninsall Nimbuzz and reinstall ... it does not work
I tried to uninstall Nimbuzz, reboot phone, reinstall ... it does not work
Whatever I tried in Android phone with Nimbuzz, it did not "sync" (or update) the Skype saved numbers.
So, yeah, frustrated with this kind of quality of the Nimbuzz for Android.
Does it work on yours? The add/update Skype saved numbers ...
JaykaySLO said:
Do you have your mobile number associated with skype in order to send sms and call? I have and have no problems calling mobile numbers from Nimbuzz. I takes credit from my skype account.
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no, removing the account did not refresh contacts
Yupe, and there is NO WAY to refresh either
So, I guess I have to wait another update ... (if there will be any!).
Anyway, I tested to call using SkypeOut and the call quality is not that good, there was some delays at the other end (long distance international call).
But, certainly it is better than Fring.
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no, removing the account did not refresh contacts
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As you all know... theres a new feature in gmail that allows us to call US & Canada for free... right from our Gmail page
i'm wondering if there is an app on our android that could do that..
If only the feature didn't require a plugin i bet the webkit browser could do it. I don't know why they didn't integrate this true VOIP feature into google voice app.
If any type of phone would ever get this first, it would undoubtedly be the Android OS. Having said that creating a VOIP for phone calls on a mobile device would unveil a huge pandora's box and will officially launch the Google vs. ALL cellular carriers wars. I think it will probably be some time before we see an official app that can do that.
Who know, maybe some developers can figure out how to piggyback the Gmail-call VOIP service.
As soon as I heard about this GMail Voice I thought about how great it would be to be able to use WiFi for calling where I don't have good cell phone service but unfortunately it looks like that's not possible... yet.
Any great ideas on how to replicate this feature on mobile?
Yes, lol Google Voice IS available for Android.
Latest APK for Google voice is within the HTC Vision Rom dump
Hope this helps
raven-inc said:
Latest APK for Google voice is within the HTC Vision Rom dump
Hope this helps
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This just works as a forwarding service though. No VOIP support.
so since apple released whatever 'iMessage' for all apple products and its exclusive and what not, and all blackberry devices have BBM, how much do you gander android will release its own form of IM within the coming months before the release of icecream sandwich?
revamp of G-Talk... maybe? LOL that thing seriously need a big overhaul anyway.
a penny for your thoughts?
I personally like the idea of GTalk how it is now. They could just make sure its installed on every phone and maybe even put it on the first screen.
I like having it cross-platform and even available on the desktop.
Most of my friends have Android now, so more and more people are moving to GTalk.
I wish they would come out with a better desktop client though that'll do video rather than relying on the web one.
I think GTalk should be a feature they advertise more. Its already available on every Android phone, uses push for 2.2+ and works really well.
It would be cool
I would like to see google sync google talk across devices. Not sure if it could kill off SMS like everyone thinks though.
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I would like to see google sync google talk across devices. Not sure if it could kill off SMS like everyone thinks though.
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The nice thing is that it uses Jabber, so there's lots of clients out there that will support it...all with their own feature sets. So its easily cross-platform, just not always the official app.
I think iMessage is going to be hugely popular as it looks like it's built right into the normal SMS messaging application in iOS and is going to be automaticly used any time you are sending a message to another iPhone user. Once people get used to using the combined messaging app, it's going to be nearly impossible to convince iPhone users to install a 3rd party chat app.
I now think it makes sense for RIM to open up BBM to other platforms, as they have the best chance of getting people to install their app, and if they are going to lose customers to iPhones and Androids (which is clearly happening), it would be in their best interest to at least keep them as BBM users.
Frankly, Google really dropped the ball by not seeing what a big problem all of these propietary chatting protocols are going to be for alternative mobile platforms. Many people in places like Canada (where blackberry and BBM are very popular) fear switching from blackberry as it means giving up all of your BBM contacts, and it's going to be the same thing for iPhone users soon. We needed an open spec protocol like XMPP to be the dominant protocol so that anyone can make a client for any device, but there are parts of Google Talk that just don't meet what people are looking for.
Google Talk needs at least the following, in my opinion:
- Remove the ability to log out
- Delivery (and maybe read) status for messages
- Improved group chat (currently the implementation is clumsy and inconsistent)
- Improved media transfers (photos and videos, but also contacts and locations)
- Combine SMS and Google Talk applications into one messaging super app, like iMessage.
The biggest problem with Google talk is its currently not widely available on every android phone.
Google doesn't need to revamp gtalk. It just needs to make Disco the default messaging program like Apple has done with iMessage. It would need to add MMS and remove the requirement for creating groups before sending messages but I can't imaging either would be too difficult to do before ICS is released.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/23/google-disco-2/
Been wishing this was in gtalk since 1.6. I dont think they need to combine it with the SMS app if they keep the green circle next the contacts name when they are signed on in Gtalk.
If they updated the BB and IOS apps to work with the new Gtalk apps it could dominate. But like google maps with navigation, they reserve group chats and video chatting to the web client and android users.
http://www.cultofmac.com/androids-going-to-help-apples-imessage-kill-off-sms/99831
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I think iMessage is going to be hugely popular as it looks like it's built right into the normal SMS messaging application in iOS and is going to be automaticly used any time you are sending a message to another iPhone user. Once people get used to using the combined messaging app, it's going to be nearly impossible to convince iPhone users to install a 3rd party chat app.
I now think it makes sense for RIM to open up BBM to other platforms, as they have the best chance of getting people to install their app, and if they are going to lose customers to iPhones and Androids (which is clearly happening), it would be in their best interest to at least keep them as BBM users.
Frankly, Google really dropped the ball by not seeing what a big problem all of these propietary chatting protocols are going to be for alternative mobile platforms. Many people in places like Canada (where blackberry and BBM are very popular) fear switching from blackberry as it means giving up all of your BBM contacts, and it's going to be the same thing for iPhone users soon. We needed an open spec protocol like XMPP to be the dominant protocol so that anyone can make a client for any device, but there are parts of Google Talk that just don't meet what people are looking for.
Google Talk needs at least the following, in my opinion:
- Remove the ability to log out
- Delivery (and maybe read) status for messages
- Improved group chat (currently the implementation is clumsy and inconsistent)
- Improved media transfers (photos and videos, but also contacts and locations)
- Combine SMS and Google Talk applications into one messaging super app, like iMessage.
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+1, I totally agree with you.
It really has to be promoted. I have a lot of friends with Android devices whom doesn't even know that Gtalk exists, it's a real pain. It needs the option to login with a kind of a "PIN" maybe just like RIM has.
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+1, I totally agree with you.
It really has to be promoted. I have a lot of friends with Android devices whom doesn't even know that Gtalk exists, it's a real pain. It needs the option to login with a kind of a "PIN" maybe just like RIM has.
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why use a pin though? that just creates more hassle for everyone. why not just tell them to add your gaccount which has everything integrated... your number/whatever you want to share.
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why use a pin though? that just creates more hassle for everyone. why not just tell them to add your gaccount which has everything integrated... your number/whatever you want to share.
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Because as I can see, some of my friends with an Android device don't even use Gmail accounts, and there's when the problem using Gtalk begin!
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Because as I can see, some of my friends with an Android device don't even use Gmail accounts, and there's when the problem using Gtalk begin!
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Fair enough...but then are you telling me they aren't downloading any apps from the market then? And thus not optimizing the android system already? Because if they can access the market they should be able to use g chat ...
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For it to work, any message system has to integrate with the default messaging app. Otherwise, it will be a failure. Apple did get iMessage right by integrating it with the sms app and make using it automatic (without any user input to setup).
^wait, so how does the phone know if the receiver is an iOS user and that the receiver has an internet connection? For iPads, there are no phone numbers associated with the devices. So how does iMessage integrate with the SMS app?
Currently you can see if the person is on gtalk in the SMS app by a green dot next to their name. That seems perfectly fine by me.
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^wait, so how does the phone know if the receiver is an iOS user and that the receiver has an internet connection? For iPads, there are no phone numbers associated with the devices. So how does iMessage integrate with the SMS app?
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Actually, even iPad 3G users have a phone number (it just isn't visible to the user). My guess is it will do contact matching (which will check the contact's email against itunes accounts and the phone number). The phone number will probably be automatically registered to your account when you login to your phone with your itunes account. So it isn't hard to do that simple matching.
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Currently you can see if the person is on gtalk in the SMS app by a green dot next to their name. That seems perfectly fine by me.
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Which sms app? I don't see any green dots (or spaces for them) in the default app, or handcent.
I'm on CM7. Is this a feature in stock roms?
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Actually, even iPad 3G users have a phone number (it just isn't visible to the user). My guess is it will do contact matching (which will check the contact's email against itunes accounts and the phone number). The phone number will probably be automatically registered to your account when you login to your phone with your itunes account. So it isn't hard to do that simple matching.
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But what if I switch between iphones and other phones all the time?
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Which sms app? I don't see any green dots (or spaces for them) in the default app, or handcent.
I'm on CM7. Is this a feature in stock roms?
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You can see who's online on Gtalk on the stock contact list.
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You can see who's online on Gtalk on the stock contact list.
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Yep, you can. But the contact list isn't an sms app
Hi all,
This the new news today. And installed the update.
Is there a way to combine text messages with the hangout so its all in one?
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Hi all,
This the new news today. And installed the update.
Is there a way to combine text messages with the hangout so its all in one?
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Hangouts is pretty much just a Google Talk replacement at the moment. It doesn't unify anything.
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Hangouts is pretty much just a Google Talk replacement at the moment. It doesn't unify anything.
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Thanks... Fingers crossed it does do
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Well, it totally screws up the easy way of cross compatible situation that Gtalk provided with XMPP. So many Messengers on various Computer Systems, incl. Android and iOS could connect to a Gtalk account. Now thats all over. What has that to do with unifying ? Sounds more to me like "limiting".
I suppose, since Gtalk was a major part in Android, one that I believe cannot/could not be uninstalled (please correct me if I am wrong here), we can't uninstall Google Hangout now. Right ? Since if it replaces Talk, it must be a part of the System that can't be uninstalled. Or please tell me that its no problem to uninstall it ?
Any info is appreciated.
Thank you.
Wolfseye
I don't like the fact that we can't see the online/offline status of the people in our friend lists anymore!
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Well, it totally screws up the easy way of cross compatible situation that Gtalk provided with XMPP. So many Messengers on various Computer Systems, incl. Android and iOS could connect to a Gtalk account. Now thats all over. What has that to do with unifying ? Sounds more to me like "limiting".
I suppose, since Gtalk was a major part in Android, one that I believe cannot/could not be uninstalled (please correct me if I am wrong here), we can't uninstall Google Hangout now. Right ? Since if it replaces Talk, it must be a part of the System that can't be uninstalled. Or please tell me that its no problem to uninstall it ?
Any info is appreciated.
Thank you.
Wolfseye
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It's no problem to uninstall it. You can uninstall with titanium backup.
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Thank you, that worked.
Does anyone know if Google will also disable the Gtalk Servers with the use for Gtalk compatible XMPP apps on for example PC or if that is still running a while ?
Wolfseye
wpkwolfseye said:
Well, it totally screws up the easy way of cross compatible situation that Gtalk provided with XMPP. So many Messengers on various Computer Systems, incl. Android and iOS could connect to a Gtalk account. Now thats all over. What has that to do with unifying ? Sounds more to me like "limiting".
I suppose, since Gtalk was a major part in Android, one that I believe cannot/could not be uninstalled (please correct me if I am wrong here), we can't uninstall Google Hangout now. Right ? Since if it replaces Talk, it must be a part of the System that can't be uninstalled. Or please tell me that its no problem to uninstall it ?
Any info is appreciated.
Thank you.
Wolfseye
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I move the file which named talk.apk from system/app,and then open google play,hangouts can be installed.
But I put the file back,and reboot device.Gtalk is back again, hangouts is missing.
Now I am back to gtalk
youngcn said:
I move the file which named talk.apk from system/app,and then open google play,hangouts can be installed.
But I put the file back,and reboot device.Gtalk is back again, hangouts is missing.
Now I am back to gtalk
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I uninstalled it with Titanium Backups. Now its gone. Can I go back to Gtalk again and if, will it next time be automatically updated with Hangouts again since Google wants to get rid of Gtalk ? Does anyone know if Gtalk (in general) still works as for the Servers, so I could use it on a PC with some alternate Messenger.
Any info on that is appreciated.
Wolfseye
wpkwolfseye said:
I uninstalled it with Titanium Backups. Now its gone. Can I go back to Gtalk again and if, will it next time be automatically updated with Hangouts again since Google wants to get rid of Gtalk ? Does anyone know if Gtalk (in general) still works as for the Servers, so I could use it on a PC with some alternate Messenger.
Any info on that is appreciated.
Wolfseye
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You can go back to gtalk,put the file back to the path,and reboot
When I updated gtalk to hangouts, PC termination had worked as usual.
I think automatically update of gtalk will be successful next time.
youngcn said:
You can go back to gtalk,put the file back to the path,and reboot
When I updated gtalk to hangouts, PC termination had worked as usual.
I think automatically update of gtalk will be successful next time.
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If I understand you correct, I could put in TALK again but next time (or soon) it will be updated automatically to Hangout again, since that is what Google will force on everyone. So there is no point in putting Talk back I suppose. I just hope they keep the XMPP Servers running for Talk to be used on other Systems like PC. So many nice apps that can be used with Gtalk. Pidgin, Miranda etc.
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If I understand you correct, I could put in TALK again but next time (or soon) it will be updated automatically to Hangout again, since that is what Google will force on everyone. So there is no point in putting Talk back I suppose. I just hope they keep the XMPP Servers running for Talk to be used on other Systems like PC. So many nice apps that can be used with Gtalk. Pidgin, Miranda etc.
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yes, you are right.
I also like XMPP Servers, but talk combine with google+ message, what a pity.
If you're on a computer, go to Google plus page and turn hangouts on, there is a green line under the picture of contacts who are online. My list of contacts that show are just frequently used ones though. I know this isn't the same but maybe it will show up in the app soon.
ya its a great design but really missing the simple facts.
GOOGLE if you're reading this, combine all the servers into one.
it is still called talk and still looks the same, however apparently I already have the hangout update... what can I do? I rebooted my nexus twice and talk is still there.
It doesnt look the same at all actually. Lol. if it looks the Same for you, it hasn't been rolled out to you yet. there is a phandroid article with a link to the app itself and you can just install it manually.
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well it still says talk up left... thanks, I might do it manually, can't wait even tough I never used google talk :laugh:
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finally, looks completely different. love it.
according to phandroid it will support sms in a future update.
I removed it completely. If I can't have Google Talk, I dont want that Hangout stuff at all. Google totally screwed up something great XMPP cross-platform stuff which no Google+ or Google Hangout can replace. Not everything wants to be done on a phone, tablet or Browser.
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I removed it completely. If I can't have Google Talk, I dont want that Hangout stuff at all. Google totally screwed up something great XMPP cross-platform stuff which no Google+ or Google Hangout can replace. Not everything wants to be done on a phone, tablet or Browser.
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+1
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Has anybody had their talk update into hangouts yet? It's listed in play store but it doesn't have an update button because it's a system app.
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Has anybody had their talk update into hangouts yet? It's listed in play store but it doesn't have an update button because it's a system app.
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"NOTE: If you aren't yet able to install Hangouts on your phone or tablet, or the Play Store "Open" button takes you to the old Talk app, hang tight, we are rolling out Hangouts to everyone over the course of several days. Rest assured Hangouts will be available soon for all Android 2.3+ devices, tablets included!" - From Google
Answered my own question
I got it yesterday automatically.
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