S4 with Stock Android? - One (M7) General

I don't know if you guys were watching Google IO... Google now through the Play Store has released the Galaxy S4 with Stock Android.
Do you guys think HTC will tag on as well? Making this a new way for oems to cater to both Android purist and the ones held down by carriers or tw/sense lovers?
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tazb said:
I don't know if you guys were watching Google IO... Google now through the Play Store has released the Galaxy S4 with Stock Android.
Do you guys think HTC will tag on as well? Making this a new way for oems to cater to both Android purist and the ones held down by carriers or tw/sense lovers?
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Dont worry, we have CyanogenMod

tazb said:
I don't know if you guys were watching Google IO... Google now through the Play Store has released the Galaxy S4 with Stock Android.
Do you guys think HTC will tag on as well? Making this a new way for oems to cater to both Android purist and the ones held down by carriers or tw/sense lovers?
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won't be out until june 28

I don't really see the point but it will attract people because you can mostly disable sense or touchwiz and install cm or custom launchers to give you the pure android experience but with pure android it's very hard to get the extra touchwiz or sense features. Anyway I am sure it will make some folks on xda happy.

All the manufacturer has to do is release the drivers... You could be stock... With this the S4 has an easier time going stock.

Even tho I love sense, and Sense is one of the reasons I stick with HTC(had SGSII some time ago and I hated touchwiz, so I went stock), it would be still nice to have the option going on pure stock. If HTC would go and with all their phone they would release bootloader and drivers so we could flash stock, I believe it would have bigger part of xda-community.. .but thats my wild guess, I may be wrong

HTC is committed to Sense, so they definitely won't be doing this.
You'd be mad to lose Zoe, IMO. I'd also miss the IR blaster.
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don't really see the point in it in all honesty. you would be better to wait until october & get the next nexus. most people who buy samsung do so for the features, which will surely be missing on this new s4?

Its a Google thing, for some reason they choose Sammy over Samsung. All the same I doubt HTC will ever do this.
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Phone recommendation

I have the chance to sell my x10 and replace it with some other high end phone.I have Samsung galaxy s2,sensation and Xperia play in mind. Can anyone recommend me.
In my opnion S2 or sensation since they are dual core . Play arent much and they are bulky unless u want game that much.
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PLAY does not worth the money. Go for S2 or Sensation.
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Put it in easier terms,
Looks+camera=arc
Pure performance=S2
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I would recommend an arc or sgs2, play is kinda big and costly, at least here(750$)
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S2 for sure its way faster and smoother as the htc and it is unlocked whitout having to do anything.
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or you could just wait for SE to release a phone with dual core :> xperia duo
sgs2 for sure....
though sensation is pretty damn nice too
sgs2 and sensation are both very good looking and performing phones.
but have you ever tried out a device with htc sense on it? if not, do it, before you grab the sensation!!! i really don't like this sense-thing, because i think it "encomplicates" the whole system...but it's surely a question of taste...
samsung's touchwiz is not that spectacular, so this shouldn't be a problem at all.
Petarsson said:
sgs2 and sensation are both very good looking and performing phones.
but have you ever tried out a device with htc sense on it? if not, do it, before you grab the sensation!!! i really don't like this sense-thing, because i think it "encomplicates" the whole system...but it's surely a question of taste...
samsung's touchwiz is not that spectacular, so this shouldn't be a problem at all.
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you do know you can get a different launcher right? lol
Galaxy S2. Use a custom ROM if you don't like touchwiz.
Galaxy s2 ita super fast and it has a nice camera aswell
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Galaxy S2 seems to have the best specifications. It also seems a bit more solid when compared to the sensation.
Why are you considering the play? Do you want to game a lot? I don't know how the games are but you could ask in the play forum.
hey guys for me i can only choose between LG optimus 2x or Nexus S with my new carrier, which one should i take?
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hey guys for me i can only choose between LG optimus 2x or Nexus S with my new carrier, which one should i take?
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haven't tried the optimus 2x yet...
the nexus s is pretty awesome though, and you'll always get timely android updates.
Im gonna break from the crowda little. Im holding out for the Nokia n9. Thing looks boss. The LG looks neat but the phone is a little lame. The nexus s is probably a much better choice.
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Don't like the UI and design of SG2.On paper,Xperia Duo looks good.What is the release date.
I'm enjoying my EVO 3D very much.
With that said, I think you should decide what features you require and those you'd like to have. Check out GMS Arena's database of phones to see which phones suit those needs. Then do some searching online for reviews and user commentary of the phones you may be interested in.
I think u should probably go for GS2.Its one of the best smart phone so far.Or,if u can wait for some time,go for next generation devices.
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Don't like the UI and design of SG2.On paper,Xperia Duo looks good.What is the release date.
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Release date? No one even knows if it's real yet

Looking for advice for my next phone

It seems that Cyanogenmod will not be bringing their next generation (ICS) to the Vibrant. While I really like the Vibrant, perhaps it is time to think about moving on.
Are there any recommendations for where I should be looking. Here would be my considerations:
- I like the hardware features (screen size and resolution and 16GB memory)
- I want the phone to have full Cyanogenmod support
- Cyanogenmod support should include a good gps and battery life (both of which are shortcomings for the Vibrant)
- I need to stick with TMobile
- And, I don't want the phone to cost an arm and a leg
Any thoughts, ideas, advice would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Nexus. Nothing else needs to be said. But if it does not come to to tmobile, I would lean towards HTC, they seem to be able to at least update phones.
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I agree. Nexus should be #1 on your list if you want support and like the Vibrant. The HTC Amaze just came out on T-Mobile and has impressive hardware specs and is on the list from HTC to get the ICS update. It also has a 8MP camera with instant picture taking like the Nexus. I would imagine that Cyanogenmod will put out a mod for it. Though any new phones will need some time to see if CM will support it.
The Galaxy Nexus is a pentaband phone, so even if T-Mobile doesn't get it, it'll still run on their network. I normally tell people to get the phone that they like the best. Not everyone is an uber android geek. I told a buddy of mine to get the Droid Charge, he loves the thing. If he waited for the Galaxy Nexus, he'd be disappointed. It's personal preference.
It sounds like you like to tinker. People that like to tinker need a Nexus device because they'll always be the ones with the most support and the smoothest Android experience. I love my Vibrant, it was my first Android device. I'll probably always hold onto it as a backup phone with Stock Froyo + WiFi Calling, but in the future I'll most likely stick to Nexus devices.
Decide what you care about the most and less about hardware/appearance. If you want a custom experience more than what a manufacturer's android experience is, then go for a Nexus with optimized hardware. There are a lot of really nice, very cool phones out there but in terms of longevity of future up to date use, Nexus wins 10 times out of 10.
Also, I wouldn't buy a device based on the promise of updates. Carriers may intend to update a device, but several things can hinder that intention. In all reality, if an upgrade to ICS doesn't come until next August, well, what's the point? Remember, for a long time it looked like Samsung assumed that T-Mobile would want the Vibrant updated, and it didn't happen. There have several devices through the years that were suppose to be updated and never were. Always buy a phone for what it is, not what a carrier says it should be.
Regarding Galaxy Nexus being penta band, doesn't it mean only GSM is supported in 5 bands and not 3G? Why would Samsung build AWS band in a world phone for couple of carriers.
tmobil sgs2
What do you think of the T-Mobile sgs2? Will it get ice or will it end up being forgotten like the vibrant? Seems to me the T-Mobile sgs2 is more powerful than the nexus hardware wise
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Higher specs are irrelevant. I'm sure it needs them to push TouchWiz. There is one device ICS is optimized for, and that's the Galaxy Nexus.
1) It's not Samsung that will abandon the SGS, it's T-Mobile
2) If you chase spec sheets you'll be replacing devices every 3-6 months.
Also, manufacturers are going to want to want their frameworks on top of ICS. There's no reference point for how ICS will look or run with TouchWiz, Sense or Motoblur on top of it. You have to go with what you know, not what you think you can assume.
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Galaxy nexus is good. But I think The galaxy 3 is much better than it. G3 should be relese in Christmas season. i think..
aliveu7 said:
Galaxy nexus is good. But I think The galaxy 3 is much better than it. G3 should be relese in Christmas season. i think..
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Your advice is based on a "think" without any leak information of a virtual phone
nexus or tmobil sgs2! stay away from amaze
iPhone 5 will be my next device. too tempted by androids openness to play around with all the roms out there. iPhone will take that choice away and simplify things. also would play nicer with my Mac. my MacBook hates the vibrant it seems.
aliveu7 said:
Galaxy nexus is good. But I think The galaxy 3 is much better than it. G3 should be relese in Christmas season. i think..
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Christmas 2012 maybe.
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I read a USA today article and the Guy was using it and he said he was using it on T-Mobile and it also has att bands so its merger proof.
Amaze hands down.
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Amaze hands down.
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Hate to step on your sneakers and have you try kill me but, at 250 and that's with a new contract 559 without ouch. Check out the forums not much support yet... S2 has more devs...
I want an HTC Sense phone.
Used AOSP, Touchwiz and MotoBlur....but never SENSE (except for on G1)
Maybe quad core
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Get a nexus s!!
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manus ferrera said:
I read a USA today article and the Guy was using it and he said he was using it on T-Mobile and it also has att bands so its merger proof.
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Lol u r smart
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nomadrider123 said:
Hate to step on your sneakers and have you try kill me but, at 250 and that's with a new contract 559 without ouch. Check out the forums not much support yet... S2 has more devs...
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way more devs! and cm7

Would you pay for android updates to get them in a timely manor?

Ok what if google can get updates out like apple does to its devices. Notice sprint does not even have ics yet for the nexus s since sprint is launching the galery nexus soon so I bet sprint just only,let a few phone get the ics update as a beta if you will as then user would not buy the newer ics phone. So if google charged a small update fee provided your phone meets the requirements. Or why does google even allow all these add ons like sense and touchwiz. Why not have the pure google non skinned version for like a few dollars and if you want the custom sense then wait for htc samsung to release it a year later.... cough cough fryo.... cough cough gingerbread....
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Well to answer your question, nope, since we got amazing devs here to satisfy our quench for updating XD
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Fire n mage said:
Well to answer your question, nope, since we got amazing devs here to satisfy our quench for updating XD
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True for people who are rooted but what about the average non xda type of user who waits for offical ota?
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Defiantly not, why should we? You don't pay Apple for updates.
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True for people who are rooted but what about the average non xda type of user who waits for offical ota?
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those average non xda people dont even know root or the latest software means it more of a phone to call and text and browse internet. they dont care if their phone has the latest and greatest updates.
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Defiantly not, why should we? You don't pay Apple for updates.
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You buy the phone from apple, and they also make the software. We buy the phone from Samsung, and Google makes the software. Big difference. You seriously wouldn't shell out like 5 dollars to get ICS like 4 months ago, fully working and smooth? Gonna call bs on that.
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Defiantly not, why should we? You don't pay Apple for updates.
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I don't pay Apple for anyting. Lol
/trollface
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mark8503 said:
Defiantly not, why should we? You don't pay Apple for updates.
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Sure you do its called OS/X.... which is i-os is somewhat based on...
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You buy the phone from apple, and they also make the software. We buy the phone from Samsung, and Google makes the software. Big difference. You seriously wouldn't shell out like 5 dollars to get ICS like 4 months ago, fully working and smooth? Gonna call bs on that.
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Well i disagree on that one as Google does also makes phones called the Nexus and the Motorola Mobility line as Google no owns Moto Mobility. And from what i understand its the stuff like touchwiz and sense that make it harder to get the updates a quickly since the carriers must test everything for like 90 days or more and if it fails then they start the process from the beginning.
I say google should only have one uniform look to android like how apple does with i-os. (i however do not like apple as too expensive for the rich people) If you want a custom launcher like go you can download it but it would not be apart of any official rom from the maker / carrier.
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I don't pay Apple for anyting. Lol
/trollface
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Lol I don't either. Meaning we don't buy it. PERIOD!!!!
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Sure you do its called OS/X.... which is i-os is somewhat based on...
Well i disagree on that one as Google does also makes phones called the Nexus and the Motorola Mobility line as Google no owns Moto Mobility. And from what i understand its the stuff like touchwiz and sense that make it harder to get the updates a quickly since the carriers must test everything for like 90 days or more and if it fails then they start the process from the beginning.
I say google should only have one uniform look to android like how apple does with i-os. (i however do not like apple as too expensive for the rich people) If you want a custom launcher like go you can download it but it would not be apart of any official rom from the maker / carrier.
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i have to say; it looks like youve just taken random sentences and thrown them together here.
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i have to say; it looks like youve just taken random sentences and thrown them together here.
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+1
And for real there is a Galery Nexus coming soon? I will compare it with the Galaxy Nexus to check which one is better.
And back to the thread. I won't pay, but there is people which pay to others for root their phones, so I think they will pay.
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csmasn said:
+1
And for real there is a Galery Nexus coming soon? I will compare it with the Galaxy Nexus to check which one is better.
And back to the thread. I won't pay, but there is people which pay to others for root their phones, so I think they will pay.
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i would pay for official updates if it means they come as soon as google releases them. perhaps google should not release any updates until all carriers and manufacturer are ready to push them to all phones that meet the requirements. Do what microsoft does and they just push them to all phones at the same time so the carriers dont have a say in the matter... sort of like windows update on the pc. just check for the update and then install... carriers and manufacturer have too much power to decide who gets what...
I'd love to have mine done in a timely manor. I hear it's nice this time of year!
NO way wouldn't pay! Plus its totally unrealistic considering the different devices and bloatware! Apple has one device line to update! But don't forget Apple owns the software! You get caught messing with it they "Kill" your phone!
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NO way wouldn't pay! Plus its totally unrealistic considering the different devices and bloatware! Apple has one device line to update! But don't forget Apple owns the software! You get caught messing with it they "Kill" your phone!
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well how does microsoft do it then with windows phone 7 and with the pc's? As long as if the phones meet the minimum requirements then good to go. This would work simply because it would get rid of the custom interfaces from the makers like htc sense or samsung touchwiz. If you want those they would only be available as a download apk from the market like how go launcher and adw desktop are. Google needs to take a stand on the custom overlays and how they devalue android with lack of updates as the makers think somehow that sense or touchwiz add somesort of value to the phone when in fact it does not. android 4 is perfect interface and with android 2.x and 3.x its good enough or download some aftermarket one like go launcher. Otherwise i would pay for updates like how i do on my laptop. they can also make money off the updates as well like $25 per phone again as long as it meets the requirements. and now google owns motorola mobility so google is now just like appple. So goolge / Moto Mobility does control the hardware and software
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well how does microsoft do it then with windows phone 7 and with the pc's? As long as if the phones meet the minimum requirements then good to go. This would work simply because it would get rid of the custom interfaces from the makers like htc sense or samsung touchwiz. If you want those they would only be available as a download apk from the market like how go launcher and adw desktop are. Google needs to take a stand on the custom overlays and how they devalue android with lack of updates as the makers think somehow that sense or touchwiz add somesort of value to the phone when in fact it does not. android 4 is perfect interface and with android 2.x and 3.x its good enough or download some aftermarket one like go launcher. Otherwise i would pay for updates like how i do on my laptop. they can also make money off the updates as well like $25 per phone again as long as it meets the requirements. and now google owns motorola mobility so google is now just like appple. So goolge / Moto Mobility does control the hardware and software
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who is to say that custom launchers are devaluing android? if anything, they bring more to the table. i think a lot of the people here would say that they prefer some of the asthetics and options that touchwiz includes. i cant speak to sense or motoblur as i havent used them.
No. Just like I would not pay extra for gas to have someone else come out and pump it for me. In both cases we already pay too much, for gas, for the phones, service and insurance. If all phones were free I would think about it. But you pay more for a better phone, it damn well better be updated in a reasonable timely manner.
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The manufacturer should be providing timely updates as part of buying the phone. We should expect new versions of the OS until at least the EOL and then bugfixes and security updates for another two years past that as a minimum.
Now that we're done with fantasy land, I wouldn't mind paying a nominal charge for a version update provided that they have a stable bug-free version of the current OS. IMHO Samsung never got there with the Epic.
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True for people who are rooted but what about the average non xda type of user who waits for offical ota?
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The average non-xda user wouldn't know what 'stock' android is, and frankly, they probably wouldn't be impressed with it for this reason right here
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who is to say that custom launchers are devaluing android? if anything, they bring more to the table. i think a lot of the people here would say that they prefer some of the asthetics and options that touchwiz includes. i cant speak to sense or motoblur as i havent used them.
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I haven't used Sense, but from my limited experience, Blur is horrid. TW smokes it by a mile. I enjoyed some of the features of Touchwiz, no joke.
And OP, while Google may now own Motorola Mobility, it doesn't mean they own all the hardware. It just means they kind of do with Motorola. They still don't with Samsung, HTC, LG, Sony, etc etc etc.
I'm still a firm believer the biggest reason Google bought Moto was for the patents, not to try and complete with Apple by owning both hardware/software.
EDIT: For the record, I think the number one way to go about the issue is this: all android phones, stock, come with their own skin out of the box by default. However, the user has the ability to go with stock Android upon bootup or something like that. Maybe a tutorial that guides users stating what that skin brings to the table. Maybe something saying here's what you'll have with the skin vs without it, and list off apps and features associated with it.
This way, us android-heads can get any phone we want with stock android, and the average user still has the same options as today.
I wanted to put something of worth within this thread as a conversation topic, but it has become rather vexing trying to pick apart the compilation of sentences that the OP's has been using lol, though me saying I mean no offense would not help I don't think heh.
In regards to paying for an upgrade, it does occur in iOS when the next incremental upgrades come to the iPod Touch Line, for iPhone's a user is guaranteed that update due to being on a monthly plan with their device unless that device is gradually replaced in which case it goes no further upgrade wise as there is a new iteration close to it in price and internal size, if iPad's are affected in the same way being on carrier/off carrier I'm unaware, I also haven't upgraded my iPod Touch in a long while either to test the validity of that, so I'm open to correction. Though iOS has been on 5.x for a bit anyways.
In this case.
Android lacks something iOS does in this case, uniformity, which is how Apple portrays their control over their platform and why it's so popular and simple to use, they limit what can be used and what is used and set a basis forward to keep compatibility in the long run. The Nexus Line is controlled by Google and their partner in each step of the way, more by Google however because they essentially get to pick and choose what they want which works well in the whole grand scheme of things, which means timely updates are to come. They don't have control over LG, HTC, Sony, or Samsung for that matter in their other endeavors in Android and what "crap"(lack of more proper word) that's proprietary they decide to put within the platform for the sake of bragging rights, they're their own entities which for the most part have added to the overall disconnection of Android across the board. Buying out that specific aspect of Motorola was a play for patents to avoid lawsuit not a play for control.
Saying you'd pay money for an update to Android on your phone becomes problematic, in our case, ICS. If you paid $10 because you to have the update when it came out, in the following months it'd be very likely it'd have problems, and you'd be the prime benefactor of said problems. You paid $10 for an update, now what about the update to address that issue? Or the update following that update to address the following issues? Or what if you paid for an update and never got an update in the long run, just for the sake of not having one?
Would those be paid as well? I'm only throwing forth baseless scenarios, because this arrives to the entitlement aspect of things. Paying to get an update makes you entitled to said update, when a company can G.A.F less about an older piece of hardware having support when they've devices in their minds which are twice as good as last years model. I understand where you're going with this thread but, paying for your update in software wouldn't make the fact that your phone is aging any better, nor would it make Android any more uniform, it'd only make it more annoying of a platform due to it. It's not a better alternative than just waiting it out on what you're currently using until you can upgrade your line to something new. Spending more money to have your phone officially supported is rather foolish. In my opinion though.
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And essentially the Epic isn't EOL/EOS. It just happens to be on it's last legs. So whether it's last update is stable or not won't matter at that point.

Can anyone expect any HTC Sense based ROMS available for Nexus 4 sooner or later?

tiitle is self explanatory, just curious coming from a HTC wether (because im hell bent on buying nexus 4 due to spec for the price plus google update support) we will see any HTC Sense UI based roms?
Short answer: No. Sense is an HTC skin job, this is an LG.
Second: Why the hell would you do that?
Highly doubt it. People usually get nexus devices for the pure stock Android experience and having skins like HTC sense just ruins it. That's why we didn't see any FULL port for Galaxy nexus. Just unfinished ports that nobody used as daily driver
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It's possible, I remember there being a project to try and get sense on the GNex, but it would probably take a long time since there aren't many people who want it so the number of developers and testers would be small.
Here's a video of a pre beta that came out - video
No. Its horrible and worse. You will like stock.
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if you really want htc skin then get the htc one x+
After all the time I spent to make my s3 work and look like aosp on the nexus, including the on screen button with the hardware ones disabled, now that I've sold it for the nexus, it seems just mental to apply sense or whatever else interface ...to me at least
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People have been trying for a long time now to port Sense to various phones (Sense4All etc). Though there has been progress, it can't even be considered beta yet. So if getting Sense is a concern to you, don't buy the N4. Safe to say, its not gonna happen.
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This. One X is a much better looking phone anyway. And it may not be quite as powerful, but it's easily in the same league.
I really hope so. While stock Android is nice, it would be great to have options. Sense 4 would freaking fly on this phone.
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Antebios said:
Short answer: No. Sense is an HTC skin job, this is an LG.
Second: Why the hell would you do that?
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What Antebios said. Don't even dream of it happening because it won't.
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What Antebios said. Don't even dream of it happening because it won't.
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There's no reason why it couldn't, if there was a few developers that really really wanted to do it, it's possible. It's just extremely unlikely.
Would love to see a port of the Sense 4+ keyboard though. IMHO, it's better than stock (even stock 4.2).
I think Sense5 would be fun to play with. Sure most Google fan-boys don't like it, but it's still nice; just needs refinement (specifically for battery use).
i would definitely flash a sense rom on the nexus... plain AOSP looks a bit dud after a while.
If you like HTC crap (I own an HTC, and personally hate them for their policies, but that's another story..) so much, go for the OX+, which is fine.
There is a lot of personal opinion based guestimation here. I thought google flagships released all the device information to the public so that it would be easy to make roms. I remember the good ol days of the nexus 1 when if you got bored of plain jane you could toss sense on it. Get bored with that toss cyan on it. Get bored with that, here is a port for a different phone, and so on. Sense has GREAT photography features but it does use up a LOT of memory. Looks are a matter of taste though. If you love clean and simple and no bells and whistles then light weight roms are where its at. Sense comes with plenty of spaces filled in though. It truly is a Skin job looking modern and sleek. That's my 2 cents I guess.
so the short and most conclusive answer is: Its possible.
No it is not possible. Sense requires HTC drivers and frameworks. Many great devs have tried over the years and they all end up mostly not working for things like data, camera and things like that.
Sense is not a skin on top of android it is a whole different version of android like a different linux distro with closed sourced files that will only run on HTC devices.
Wanna switch phones man, sense sucks and stick with what you got.. I have HTC and 95% of the time I'm on a CM10 rom
Highly doubt it'll ever happen.
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Anyone care to speculate if HTC is feeling pressure to put a One on the play store?
Assuming the criteria would be:
-unlocked bootloader
-Stock Android
-Small price reduction (or price match to Dev edition 650)
Personally this woul be a very very good option for a Canadian such as myself. The One is definitely my first choice but Samsung is doing such a good job at luring me in with the things I value. HTC only seems to go half way, especially since Samsung just raised the bar and went full android, so to speak.
Speculate away!
nilism said:
Anyone care to speculate if HTC is feeling pressure to put a One on the play store?
Assuming the criteria would be:
-unlocked bootloader
-Stock Android
-Small price reduction (or price match to Dev edition 650)
Personally this woul be a very very good option for a Canadian such as myself. The One is definitely my first choice but Samsung is doing such a good job at luring me in with the things I value. HTC only seems to go half way, especially since Samsung just raised the bar and went full android, so to speak.
Speculate away!
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I don't think HTC feels anything like that. As many people said, S4 nexus is expensive for many people and its not like everyone wants stock android. It'll be directed to a certain group of customers.
I definitely agree that a stock S4 is for a very select group of people. I'm not sure how that is too much of a deterrent for HTC... actually I don't understand HTC's actions at all. They always go halfway, it's like the marketing/lawyering departments have the leadership by the balls... Sort of like when the wife lets you buy a new sports car but she only approves small block engines that are sporty. Not the same thing at all!!
How much does it cost HTC or Samsung to strip and maintain a phone to AOSP?
I can't imagine the HTC One with out Sense 5. It makes it for me (as well as the build etc).
Nokiacrazi said:
I can't imagine the HTC One with out Sense 5. It makes it for me (as well as the build etc).
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I agree, I will chose Sense 5 over stock any day. Now if it was Sense 4.1 or touchwiz I can understand wanting it gone, but Sense 5 is so great IMO. I wouldn't mind the option, but things like camera (getting the image chip to work with pure android) and battery life seems to be what always keeps my HTC phone away from the pure android feel.
I have used plenty of HTC phones in the past and most of them had some form of HTC sense on them, and i have always preferred sense over stock. My last device was a nexus 4 which was pure aosp, and while it was definitely not bad, i found myself wanting sense on it all the time. I get that people have their own preferences, but htc builds their devices around sense and optimises sense to use on their hardware. I don't think HTC would release a aosp version. It would be nice if it did because we would get updates faster, but i don't see that happening anytime soon.
I read an article yesterday about some HTC Employee who tweeted something along the lines of "You can pay $649 for a cheap bit f plastic...or you could wait " Maybe HTC has something already in the works?
*EDIT* Found another article stating that HTC have denied rumours that they will be releasing a "Nexus" HTC One.
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-denies-htc-one-nexus-edition-plans-15282252/
Dharkan said:
I don't think HTC feels anything like that. As many people said, S4 nexus is expensive for many people and its not like everyone wants stock android. It'll be directed to a certain group of customers.
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^^ This. I feel releasing an aosp SIV especially not under the Nexus moniker is nothing more then another attempt to saturate the market and artificially inflate sales numbers. I think for that tiny community who doesnt root an aosp out of the box is a viable option. Look at our community though, we have aokp, cm, pa and all that jazz. For the larger community of rooters and flashers it just seems redundant to me.
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I have been using AOSP on all my devices since the very beginning, but for some reason i find myself really enjoying sense, i tried flashing CM10 but i did not like it =/ im just going to patiently wait for sense 5.1 4.2.2
I mean you could just get the dev edition and put cm10 on it, will take 5 minutes to flash
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I mean you could just get the dev edition and put cm10 on it, will take 5 minutes to flash
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Way too buggy
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I would like to add that putting something on the play store increases online availability dramatically. It's generally difficult to buy unlocked cell phones online without paying an extra premium. Especially if you don't live in the US! Yes there are ways but the party store is very accessible and hassle free. As a Canadian this is a huge plus. Just look at how many of us are screaming to get access to a Dev edition.
I've had to spend over 100 bucks in services for the privilege of doing so and then warranty suddenly becomes a huge issue. This is a huge reason the S4 is appealing as a person who doesn't do contracts.
I didn't like AOSP on my HTC One, for some reason sense is so freakin smooth and the eco system is amazing.
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I have been a nexus user for 3 years and personally prefer sense after switching to HTC one. Sense 5 is really awesome
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Maybe I should give sense a try... I'm seriously hooked on AOKP though... The level of customization is superior to none! Or maybe I an missing something.
Pretty much that is my end game desire. HTC one with 64GB and AOKP ponies.
I should apologize! Apparently the xperia Z pushed to aosp long before the S4. This really make me consider HTC stepping up to the plate as a real possibility since all the kids on the block are doing it.
Throwing it into the play store might not happen though.

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