Database Users

Worth the upgrade from a nexus 4?

I own a nexus 4 but I'm one of those people who always has to have the best but im short of the 630€ i need to buy it so im thinking of switching to pay monthly with vodafone for 35€ a month and get the s4 for 159 euro?
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

Damn buddy stick like I with ur N4 why you wanna switch From The N4 to the Galaxy S4?
I Loving my Nexus 4 and definetly dont wanna switch To a close sourced plastic phone
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

rocklee80 said:
Damn buddy stick like I with ur N4 why you wanna switch From The N4 to the Galaxy S4?
I Loving my Nexus 4 and definetly dont wanna switch To a close sourced plastic phone
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But aint the s4 just amazing
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

If you can stomach the short battery life and mediocre camera on the S4, you should stick with it. Right now Samsung is deeply into the lag eliminating stuff so it is worth waiting a couple of weeks to see where things stand, but the S4 obviously has boatloads more extres much better screen, battery life, camera plus new sensors, IR blaster... currently coming with some fluidity compromises. Hold on to it until the dust is cleared.

gavin-phelan said:
But aint the s4 just amazing
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah sure but i dont like it the hardware specs are awesome no regrets but i dont like the build quality and the slow updates and the closed source from samsung -.-

BoneXDA said:
If you can stomach the short battery life and mediocre camera on the S4, you should stick with it. Right now Samsung is deeply into the lag eliminating stuff so it is worth waiting a couple of weeks to see where things stand, but the S4 obviously has boatloads more extres much better screen, battery life, camera plus new sensors, IR blaster... currently coming with some fluidity compromises. Hold on to it until the dust is cleared.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True true! Il do just that. See what the common problems are
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

It is always worth waiting to see how much progress manufacturers can achieve, Samsung has the largest resources to deal with issues, so I'd expect responsiveness to improve vastly by June. The Nexus 4 should help easing the wait.

I switched from an N4. My main reasons for switching are:
1) The N4's camera was hopeless in low light, as The Verge put it, its better to 'just use your memory'.
2) I had a massive delay when receiving push notifications on WiFi and 3G. There was a Google support thread where ppl basically identified a faulty driver, which even now has not been fixed. Some ppl say they have no problem but I certainly did.
3) The S4 has 4G!
4) After the latest update the N4s battery life improved dramatically. But the S4 is better still, despite using it like a new phone it still surpasses the N4 in battery longevity.
Arguably the N4 is slightly smoother in some operation. When changing tabs on the S4 there is a slight delay before anything happens. But this can be solved by simply switching to Chrome.
The screen smearing on the S4 makes it seem more laggy but in reality its not.
Hope this helps you decide.
/edit Almost forgot to mention, I miss photosphere from the N4

The Galaxy S4 has a better camera by a mile then the Nexus 4 and the battery life is also a lot better. Plus you get a bigger screen, faster processor. Over all the S4 is a way better device.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

gavin-phelan said:
I own a nexus 4 but I'm one of those people who always has to have the best but im short of the 630€ i need to buy it so im thinking of switching to pay monthly with vodafone for 35€ a month and get the s4 for 159 euro?
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Go for it! It's pretty much the best Android out.
-Powerful CPU/GPU (especially the Octa)
-Excellent Camera
-High memory variants PLUS MicroSD support upto 64GB
-5.0" HD1080P SAMOLED display with 440PPI
-Huge 2600mAh battery
-USB OTG
-Native support for almost all Audio and Video formats
-Multiview Multitasking
-Capacitive display usable with gloves
-A whole lot of sensors
-Wolfson DAC (in the Octa)
-IR Blaster
...the list goes on, it pretty much whipes the floor with the N4 in everything except updates, but this being a Samsung, it will get updates for atleast 20months like the GS2.
This thing is a lil machine

Just one word: better battery

Yes, you will love the screen. :laugh:

May start saving so
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

I have come back to Note 2 from S4

I got my S4 on day of release, and have just, yesterday, swapped it back for a Note 2 (plus cash).
I had a Note 2 before the S4 and I liked the size of the screen etc.
I was impressed with the S4, but after a while I noticed a few things that actually annoyed me intensely with it.
Battery life is awful. It would last only around 5 hours, and that was not doing a lot, and would drop from 100% to around <10% in such a short time.
The heat issues the S4 have are incredible, especially when charging. I actually wondered if one day the thing would burst in to flames.
It would be uncomfortable to hold at times, especially on a warm day. It seemed to exacerbate the problem.
Another thing, the screen in direct sunlight. Even though it would be set at the highest brightness, it still would not be bright enough, and because it would get warm, it would dim the display more to "save it"
I guess that's AMOLED for ya.
The Note 2 I have now, I got it at around 12 pm yesterday, and after setting it all up how I like it, programs, themes etc, after around 5 hours unplugged, it had only used around 16%. That was after messing with it a lot. Had that been the S4 it would be way down almost out of action and I'd have to charge it again.
So, I'm sad to say, I only had the S4 for 23 days.....
The S4 looks and feels nice in the hand, has some nice features, but I have to say, the Note 2 does it for me due to battery life.

Welcome back
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium

I believe the Note 2 is the best smartphone at the moment.

He he. Confirms my suspicious that the s4 is not an upgrade from the Note 2.
Sent from the mighty Note II

Im only will switch if there is any other brand phone that can compete with S pen..so far non......
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda app-developers app

Welcome back, I was almost on my way out for the S4 and now I am content with my note2...
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2

Welcome back! n_n
_____________________
Via GT-N71OO using XDA_Elite_App

Thanks to this post. I'm sticking with my Note 2.

I believe a major cause of the shorter battery life is due to the 1080p screen, which is existent in other high end phones like htc one and Xperia z. The race for Bigger and higher resolution screens have put battery life to the catch up game. I recalled when I first got the note 1 the battery sucked real bad due to the large screen size albeit 720p.
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda app-developers app

Honesty s4 looks like a small cheap toy infront of our mighty note 2.
sent from: The New S-Pen

Screen issue
"Another thing, the screen in direct sunlight. Even though it would be set at the highest brightness, it still would not be bright enough". This is exactly the same with GNote2. I live in Cannes, France, a really sunny place, and i always have problems with that. If i'm outside, and wanna check my phone, i have to hide in shadows like thief, even if the brightness iss on maximum.

tompika72 said:
"Another thing, the screen in direct sunlight. Even though it would be set at the highest brightness, it still would not be bright enough". This is exactly the same with GNote2. I live in Cannes, France, a really sunny place, and i always have problems with that. If i'm outside, and wanna check my phone, i have to hide in shadows like thief, even if the brightness iss on maximum.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You could always turn on negative colors in accessibility. That works.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 2

Definitely note 2 is the best smartphone realized till date

Everyone at work is getting s4 and making me doubt note 2. Even though I think I would miss note 2. But threads like this keep me going. S4 is not a update to note 2!
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda app-developers app

how have you tried to get back to a HD screen?

Is it just me is the note2/gs4 a great phone tablet combination. Probably even more so when the Google gs4 comes out.
Sent from my GT-N7100

@rbiter said:
Is it just me is the note2/gs4 a great phone tablet combination. Probably even more so when the Google gs4 comes out.
Sent from my GT-N7100
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No.... note 8 with the S4 GE would be the combo
scribbled from my note 2 (N7100)

pakure said:
No.... note 8 with the S4 GE would be the combo
scribbled from my note 2 (N7100)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
any one seen the Xperia Z ultra , allthough it doesnt come with stylus , you can use your regular pen or pencil to write onit ,, but the dowside is its gonna carry only 3000Mah .. so lesser than our beast.. but on the other hand full HD screen with Snapdragon 800

I'm already use n7000 because i have no money for buy n7100,anyone to donate me?
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium

anirudhks said:
any one seen the Xperia Z ultra , allthough it doesnt come with stylus , you can use your regular pen or pencil to write onit ,, but the dowside is its gonna carry only 3000Mah .. so lesser than our beast.. but on the other hand full HD screen with Snapdragon 800
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
FHD is not that big a difference. I can't tell at all post flashing custom kernels in fact. And surprisingly it looks much better than some FHD LCD phones IMO. And regular pen or pencil or even other stylus is not a replacement for S Pen - when it comes to pressure sensitivity, accuracy etc. - with it's wacom digitizer.
And 6.4 inch apparently - too large for my liking. Might as well get a tablet then. By the time it's out, N3 will be out anyway.

Is now a bad time to buy an s4?

So iam Thinking of selling my note 2 and buy an s4, but after seeing the vast bad consumer reviews on both the german and uk amazon about the failure rates of the display and overheating issues its starting to worrying me.
Did you guys have any issues with your s4?
Should I wait for a less defective batch?
The version available to me is the l9505

People are going to have different opinions. Some will say fw will fix problems. When the Note 3 and/or the S5 come out, I know what I'm doing. I'm going to wait a little bit, not too long though and get a feel of what consumers have to say about the device before purchasing. To each their own.

alundra212 said:
So iam Thinking of selling my note 2 and buy an s4, but after seeing the vast bad consumer reviews on both the german and uk amazon about the failure rates of the display and overheating issues its starting to worrying me.
Did you guys have any issues with your s4?
Should I wait for a less defective batch?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Problems you read about on the Internet can happen, however, in the case of S4 some of the problems have been solved by Samsung with firmware updates.
Overheating seem to happen more often on i9500 than on i9505. I personally never had a problem with overheating.
I personally wouldn't wait.

Therr are 2 versions of s4.
1. I9500 - has heating problem due to the octa core processor.
2. I9505 - comparitively, gets lets heated up.
About the screen issue, most of it is caused due to not handling s4 properly or by heating issue.
Anyway, note 2 is an awesome device. I own one too. Apart from note 2, I own s4. I must say that s4 is way better than note 2. You can see significant performance with s4 along with the amazing software support from samsung.
The choice it yours. You should look at some reviews on youtube becuase there is nothing called as 'less defective batch of s4' unlike the defects found in htc one.
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

alundra212 said:
So iam Thinking of selling my note 2 and buy an s4, but after seeing the vast bad consumer reviews on both the german and uk amazon about the failure rates of the display and overheating issues its starting to worrying me.
Did you guys have any issues with your s4?
Should I wait for a less defective batch?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you are using note 2 then at least you should wait more one or two months...i dont think s4 is so big update over note 2
Yes..if you are using other devices like note 1 , s2 (or s3 may be) etc then you can buy s4 now and now you can get much price cut on s4
After all its your choice

if you come from the note 2 then my advice is to wait for the note 3
its the best choice for you and the note 2 is still a very capable device that runs anything currently out well
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

This thread is going towards comparison b/w S4 and Note 2. isn't it.?
BTW, I do have both devices S4 octa V & Note 2.
Both have different parameters. Better to use this thread for comparison -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2334012

I have SGSIII E210K and SGS4 I9500. Both have heat issue. And i wouldn't say I9500 have exceptional heating. Nope. It's comparable to E210K, but may be a little more hot. But, hey, I9500 has more powerful CPU as well.
Thus heating level is normal if compare to other powerful devices. If u don't play 3D games and don't use live 3d wallpaper then I9500 won't heat much.
Note 2 (and Note 3 will as well) has bigger size and thus more efficient in heat dissipation. So, it's obviously will work better even with the same CPU. And has room for bigger battery as well.
If you are user of Note 2 then upgrade to Note 3 will be more pleasant than to S4 where u will have some trade-offs.

As a i9500 user I haven't experienced any reset due to camera or heating. Heating is moderate even when I am running benchmarks. Everything seems fine to me and performance is extraordinary! Only thing I wonder is we might not get google edition rom but there is a possibility that samsung will release a fw for i9500 that will run all 8 cores which is exciting!
Sent from my GT-I9500 using xda premium

soralalp said:
As a i9500 user I haven't experienced any reset due to camera or heating. Heating is moderate even when I am running benchmarks. Everything seems fine to me and performance is extraordinary! Only thing I wonder is we might not get google edition rom but there is a possibility that samsung will release a fw for i9500 that will run all 8 cores which is exciting!
Sent from my GT-I9500 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
??? all at the same time? samsung must be evil
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

soralalp said:
As a i9500 user I haven't experienced any reset due to camera or heating. Heating is moderate even when I am running benchmarks. Everything seems fine to me and performance is extraordinary! Only thing I wonder is we might not get google edition rom but there is a possibility that samsung will release a fw for i9500 that will run all 8 cores which is exciting!
Sent from my GT-I9500 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
8 cores at the same time would equal very low battery time.

Well that might be the reason behind late developing process.
Sent from my GT-I9500 using xda premium

soralalp said:
As a i9500 user I haven't experienced any reset due to camera or heating. Heating is moderate even when I am running benchmarks. Everything seems fine to me and performance is extraordinary! Only thing I wonder is we might not get google edition rom but there is a possibility that samsung will release a fw for i9500 that will run all 8 cores which is exciting!
Sent from my GT-I9500 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 on that
if you read forums you will notice there are more heating problem on i9505. my 9500 never heatting over 50 degrees.

I see everyone talking about the overheating but what about the display failure rates?

alundra212 said:
I see everyone talking about the overheating but what about the display failure rates?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Never had one. Can you briefly explain what do you want to know exactly.
Sent from my GT-I9500 using xda premium

alundra212 said:
So iam Thinking of selling my note 2 and buy an s4, but after seeing the vast bad consumer reviews on both the german and uk amazon about the failure rates of the display and overheating issues its starting to worrying me.
Did you guys have any issues with your s4?
Should I wait for a less defective batch?
The version available to me is the l9505
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had i9500 and now I have i9505g.
I bought first a week after an official release and I got the second delivered last monday.
I have never ever had a single issues with either of phones.
Sent from my GT-I9505G using xda app-developers app

criszz said:
+1 on that
if you read forums you will notice there are more heating problem on i9505. my 9500 never heatting over 50 degrees.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here for 9500, no heating at all. I'll try to OC soon to see if it's going to overheat a lot
Sent from my GT-I9500 using xda premium

No issues here since i bought my 9500 last May 7.

Idk but on my i9500 i have major heating issues am w8ing for a firmware update but there arent any coming so if u wud buy buy an i9505
damn it where is that update

This is my Second I9505 my first was fried because of my misuse, neither of mine have had any overheating issues i have always had mine either in low usage simply for facebook or high usage and benchmarks never have had any overheating issues since Day 1

Will you switch to Galaxy 4 again?

last week, my glaxy S3 I9300 exploded during the phone call, and my mild chin got hurt, I don't know If I should continue to believe Samsung Galaxy S models again, Will you switch to Galaxy 4 if you were me?

I only support companies that have products blow up in my face.
Two thumbs up from me. :good: :good:

I seriously dont beleive that it "blew up". Were you using a non oem battery?
Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

kingyang01 said:
last week, my glaxy S3 I9300 exploded during the phone call, and my mild chin got hurt, I don't know If I should continue to believe Samsung Galaxy S models again, Will you switch to Galaxy 4 if you were me?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is the internet, so "Pictures or it didnt happen". I can tell you right now that if this happened to me I would take pictures of my phone and my chin. So where are yours?

Proof that your phone actually blew up?

Odd... considering only a very small fraction of those that have "blown up" have ever been recorded and those that did made it to major electronics sites.
The most that has happened to an s4 has been the charge port frying and catching fire. Even then 95% of people are thinking in regards to voltage with the charger.
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda app-developers app

Haha I like how this guy makes a thread to only say that. Then doesn't respond 3 days after. This is nonsense. And I think he is just being a troll using then story that came out of China in believe last week that some guy claims his galaxy blew up or caught on fire.
Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

This thread will now self destruct and blow up your computer.

Im thinking the OP is an HTC troll trying to stir the pot
Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk 4

Going from 3 to 4, no. Going from 2 to 4, meh. Going from 1 to 4, yes.

oscarthegrouch said:
Going from 3 to 4, no. Going from 2 to 4, meh. Going from 1 to 4, yes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Going from the GS2 to the GS4 gets a "meh" from you? Really? The screen alone is a massive upgrade in every way. Different strokes I guess, but jeez.
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda premium

The screen is just about the only thing that is noticeably better between the two, IMO. Well I suppose if you already have LTE rolled out in your area, that would also be a welcomed improvement. I did have an iPhone 4s for a short time. For me, the jump from the g2 to the g4 would be like going from a 4s to a 5. Higher resolution and slightly larger screen and LTE vs 3g. Other than that, the differences are only slightly incremental and aren't a night and day difference that can be noticed immediately or even after a week of usage.
The stock battery on the s4 does seem to last longer than the stock s2.

Who has changed from s4 to s5 please get in.

I have galaxy s4.
I can add 200$ and get the new s5.
That have lags , is not get stuck ?
Is good improvement from the s4?
Is good for add 200$?
I talking on the LTE verison
Sent from my GT-I9500 using xda app-developers app

I had a S4 and I upgraded to the S5 for the full price (in my country its around 1000$), and I am really pleased with my decision.

Me too

Imo yes it's an improvement, it hasn't slowed down or shown lag in transitions, the s4 did frequently for me.. The battery life is also immensely better
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Jumped to S5 from S4 and I think the phone if fantastic.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium HD app

Don't do it. S4 is still enough to wait for S6.

I went from a GS4 to a GS5 and I love it! Do it!
Sent from my SM-G900V using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

More people

do it its the best samsung phone ever dont listen to other people take the plunge you will love it

I kind of miss the temperature and humidity sensors I had on S4, as we check these quite often for our little baby. Bottom line, better have a full comparison before buying.
Sent from my SM-G900F using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

I switched from s4. On top of being lag free (as stated by italia0101) it's impressive the touch responsiveness. The back cover its a good choice: you can hold the phone more safely, the soft touch feeling is great. On the negative side, I don't like the usb cover.
To me it's worth each single cent!

I upgraded from an S4, and I like it. The screen is the major selling point for me, as is the fact that it's water proof. So far it seems to be faster than the S4, and I can't wait until we get AOSP ROMs on it. I haven't played around much with the camera yet, but a potentially better camera (from the reviews) was another reason I upgraded.
I don't agree with the back cover comment, to me the phone is like a bar of soap and slips out of my hand way too easily. I should be getting a Ringke slim cover for it today that should help. FWIW I have the white version, I read somewhere that it was more slippery than the black version but I don't know if that's true.