[Q] Get Adapt Sound To Work Globally? - Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot

Adapt Sound for any of you guys that didn't know makes the sound quality 20 times better. I listened to a song in the Samsung music app and then listened to the same song at the same volume in Winamp and it sounded terrible.
I'm trying to find a way to make adapt sound global, because I absolutely hate the Samsung music app. I'd much rather use Winamp or Poweramp because of all the extra features.
It'd be AWESOME if someone figured out a way to make adapt sound global and put it into a custom ROM, or even made a MOD out of it.
Edit: If you don't believe me test it out for yourself. Go to Settings>My Device>Sound>Adapt Sound, once you get there do the little hearing test, and then play a song in the samsung music app.

gharb0129 said:
Adapt Sound for any of you guys that didn't know makes the sound quality 20 times better. I listened to a song in the Samsung music app and then listened to the same song at the same volume in Winamp and it sounded terrible.
I'm trying to find a way to make adapt sound global, because I absolutely hate the Samsung music app. I'd much rather use Winamp or Poweramp because of all the extra features.
It'd be AWESOME if someone figured out a way to make adapt sound global and put it into a custom ROM, or even made a MOD out of it.
Edit: If you don't believe me test it out for yourself. Go to Settings>My Device>Sound>Adapt Sound, once you get there do the little hearing test, and then play a song in the samsung music app.
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WOW!
Was using Neutron thinking it gives the best possible sound.. Until now!
It's unbelievable the difference!
Adapt sound and Neutron would be a killer combination!

+1 here!

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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smartandroidapps.equalizer
Does equalizer app work universally for you? Granted with some eq adjustments, it seems to lower the output level, but I'm still curious if it fixes your issue. Yes, you will have to disable or freeze the built in eq app in touchwiz, for it to work properly.

I might have stumbled on a clue towards applying Adapt Sound globally or with different music apps.. I was fiddling around with it the other day, and then I was testing the Samsung music app and Google Play Music. Of course, music played through Play Music did not enable the Adapt Sound.
However, when I was listening to a song in Play Music, I thought I'd open the Samsung music app to try to run a comparison, and as soon as I opened it, it applied the Adapt Sound to the music that was playing through Play Music! It seems that when the Samsung music app opens, it enables the Adapt Sound regardless if it's actually playing anything or not, and simply keeping it open in a second window (I'm on a Galaxy Note 3) kept the Adapt Sound enabled! As soon as I closed the Samsung music app, the Adapt Sound was disabled and the sound reverted to the default. Perhaps this may give a clue on how Adapt Sound is applied through the Samsung music app, and perhaps make it possible to make a widget with a button that can enable or disable the Adapt Sound feature.
Lars

Any news on this? Maybe a similar app that does the same thing and works on all apps, or a root method to apply Samsung's feature globally?

I hope this is not too late :0
There's only one complicated way to use adapt sound globally... I'll try to explain as good as I can.
You WILL need a rooted phone to make this work.
There's an equalizer app called ViPER4Android, which doesn't only have kick-ass features, but also has a built in "convolver"
So what's a convolver? Basically it lets you simulate effects on audio. It works by having an audio clip, and and another one which has effects on it (in our case adapt sound) and comparing them together to see what changes occurred
You basically take a sine sweep (an audio clip that goes from low frequency to high), and record it paying on your device with adapt sound on (connect your phone to your microphone port by a 3.5mm cable)
Then you import these two clips to an app that can generate convolver presets (Aka impulse response samples)
The result you get is a .Wav file that you put on your phone and select as your convolver presets. And that's it!
What's even more kick-ass is that Viper4android works on neutron. So you're basically combining them three together. You can even think how this sounds.
Hope you found this helpful!

theormex said:
I hope this is not too late :0
There's only one complicated way to use adapt sound globally... I'll try to explain as good as I can.
You WILL need a rooted phone to make this work.
There's an equalizer app called ViPER4Android, which doesn't only have kick-ass features, but also has a built in "convolver"
So what's a convolver? Basically it lets you simulate effects on audio. It works by having an audio clip, and and another one which has effects on it (in our case adapt sound) and comparing them together to see what changes occurred
You basically take a sine sweep (an audio clip that goes from low frequency to high), and record it paying on your device with adapt sound on (connect your phone to your microphone port by a 3.5mm cable)
Then you import these two clips to an app that can generate convolver presets (Aka impulse response samples)
The result you get is a .Wav file that you put on your phone and select as your convolver presets. And that's it!
What's even more kick-ass is that Viper4android works on neutron. So you're basically combining them three together. You can even think how this sounds.
Hope you found this helpful!
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I'm looking for way so replicate the benefits of Adapt Sound (as it works on the Note 7) on my Nexus 6P. The key to adapt sound is the way it creates a profile based on my subjective input (testing my hearing with a given set of headphones; this varies per headphones even). The rest of the eq's and fx processors out there are gimmick to me becaues they are TOTALLY subjective and/or just fluff. You hit the nail on the head with your post; a convolver that is based on the profile created by Adapt Sound. Can you explain more how you have acted on that idea? Ideally (and I might have to try this with Pro Tools), I'd run a sweep on the Note 7 with my profile, record out out the headphone jack, then compare to the sweet and I'd get a diff I could feed to a convolver. If I understand you right, I would do just that, then Viper4Android (which I don't know much about) could apply that andn give me the same effect on my Nexus 6P?

Same idea... I think it can be do next simple way- there is several apps like audiologia.pl that is can make yours audio metrics to left and right channels. All we need to do next it's manualy change eq. setting in V4A or else to normalize sound... BUT there is NO 2 way (two channels L/R) or two different equalizers to left and right channels. Maybe someone can give me information why it is so? Mayby it's hardware impossible?

Adapt sound is a killer feature of samsung phones. I miss it in any non samsung phone I have.
I believe there is a simple way to port it but I never dug the problem.
It's weird that nobody did it until now.
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I Need A Better Audio Booster

I need a better audio booster for use with my XMI X II Mini speaker, the HD2 isn't quite loud enough, it's leaving the speaker with a lot of headroom.
I have been using the WOW STS HD cab, but I'm finding it hard to boost all frequencies uniformly with it.
Can the built in audio booster be tweaked or is there another program out there that i could make use of?
try the built-in equalizer in pocket player from conduits, maybe it will fit your requirements?
mideel said:
try the built-in equalizer in pocket player from conduits, maybe it will fit your requirements?
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No improvement, seems worse (volume wise) than standard player with audio boost and WOW SRS HD (or even without this).
Edit: Just realised i can use WOW SRS HD with it.
This is still just about on part with standard audio booster i think, will experiment more.
Still would like away to tweak the standard audio booster or WOW SRS HD or an alternative method of boosting audio volume for use with speaker.
Earphones are not a problem (they are loud enough) and i don't mind the standard speaker for ring tones etc...
go the heavy way and starte htc audio booster, pocket player with critical - extreme settings and full bass + bass equalizer preset and srs, i think THAT shoudl be enough xD
for me windows mobile got awsome sound quality, but i still changed to cowon s9 mp
D4rkSoRRoW said:
go the heavy way and starte htc audio booster, pocket player with critical - extreme settings and full bass + bass equalizer preset and srs, i think THAT shoudl be enough xD
for me windows mobile got awsome sound quality, but i still changed to cowon s9 mp
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Oh yeah, just realised that audio booster works outside of HTC music player if you configure it in it's standalone app.
How do i configure pocket player to have critical extreme settings?
Edit: I'm just going to assume you meant max settings on the equalizer.
would need to install it again, so dont know exactly, but there are settings like this, just search xD
but its not the best thing of the pocketplayer.. what gives u awsome sound are the DSP plugins + the equalizer -> activate multi DSP in settings and choose surround sound and the bass DSP, maybe something else too, then go to the equalizer and make an awsome own equalizer, i would say with high deeps and ups
then start SRS with a good setting..
and htc Audio booster with like the same equalizer setting as the pocketplayer...
and now go search .flac songs, cause mp3 is to bad for this XD i dont know if it will still sound well after so much things xD..
D4rkSoRRoW said:
would need to install it again, so dont know exactly, but there are settings like this, just search xD
but its not the best thing of the pocketplayer.. what gives u awsome sound are the DSP plugins + the equalizer -> activate multi DSP in settings and choose surround sound and the bass DSP, maybe something else too, then go to the equalizer and make an awsome own equalizer, i would say with high deeps and ups
then start SRS with a good setting..
and htc Audio booster with like the same equalizer setting as the pocketplayer...
and now go search .flac songs, cause mp3 is to bad for this XD i dont know if it will still sound well after so much things xD..
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Well, couldn't find extreme-critical anywhere, maybe it was on an older version.
I just realised that the equalizer which has a soft preamp built in wasn't actually enabled though, it has the word enabled in a list in settings, which made me thought i was enabled, but you actually need to press that and then there will be a tick next to it, there's no box for a tick or anything, nothing obvious that would have given that away.
Anyway I'm all set now, the preamp and equalizer is very loud even without WOW SRS HD.
i was using version 4.0.. >.<
but yea, then its ok^^ already thought what crazy human u are when pocketplayer isnt enough for u xD.. even for me it was enough

My conclusion on the music quality and volume on the Desire HD

I've had real problems with the volume of music on my HD. Max volume when playing music is fairly low/average. Max should be loud, it should make me want to turn it down.
I've also been very unsure on the quality of the music and what will give the best quality when playing music. Stock player? Stock player with EQ? Stock player with SRS? Stock player with Dolby? PowerAmp? PowerAmp with EQ?
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I did about an hour of testing using old ipod headphones and my Sennheiser CX870s.
I put the stock music player widget on the same screen as the PowerAmp widget so I could play one song on them both and pause the player on one and start the other to compare music quality and volume between both players with both headphones. I did this over and over with classical, techno and rock music. that
I don't feel like typing an essay but I can confidently conclude that no combination of EQ in either player or SRS etc gives the music on my HD enough volume.
I can also confidently conclude that music does sound better on the stock Desire HD music player with SRS than PowerAmp. No combination of EQ or preamp settings in PowerAmp sounded better than the stock player with SRS. At the same time though, the difference is not that great.
This is of course all my opinion with my ears and my cx870's.
One problem I've had with the cx870's is that they sound way to bassy with stock player SRS and PowerAmp with the EQ, but that is probably headphone related so not relevant to this.
I found that while jacking up the preamp in PowerAmp did help the volume, it also distorted it and somewhat ruined the clarity of the music. Plus the volume output was still not much better than the stock player with SRS.
^^ Interesting thanks very much for that... much appreciated... I still have to work out much needed replacement the the stock player. I was thinking of trying PowerAmp next.
By the way I have seen some volume raise apps or Android volume unlock that are supposed to help maybe a bit on other phone models have you tired or had any luck with any of them on the Desire HD? Definitely something I'm keen to find a fix to as well as it's not really acceptable IME to play a youtube video and have it too quiet for friends to hear ect.
Take care n good luck. Will post back it I find any good news before you do.
I was using Poweramp first but arrived to the same conclusion than Rogueblade. Stock player has a better sound definition than third party players : less distortion etc...
Do you really find it too quiet? I find mine on the brink of too loud when its on max - I generally have it a click or 2 under, and its loud enough to drown out the sound of anyone around me and the sound of the train.
using headphones i find SRS amazing, im using it even in my car even using the headphones jack
just tried an HD2 and desire next to the DHD, seriously people i don't get what the problem is, the DHD has a much clearer sound
i'm on OTA 1.72 by the way
Am I missing something not?!? I cannot see how it's possible to use the stock player as lets say I copy 2 CDs on to the SD card. When I go to access it though the stock player there is not 1 folder with CD1 and another folder with another CD2 there is just a mess of MP3 tracks and folders. Now that is just one double CD from one artist. I would not like to see what happens when I go and transfer a resonable size collection of my MP3s containing mutliple folders of CD's and live sets, each foldered under artist names and music styles.
Someone please explain it to me if I am wrong. Would I be right to say I need to use another player that specifically has a feature of search/display music by folders?
I find the volume on DHD good enough. I use the device for music in the car and always leave it around half way and fully cracked up on the stereo and it's loud enough.
While listening with headphones I find max too loud but the volume preference would differ from person to person. Also I find SRS gives a nice bass boost which is great.
Someone please explain it to me if I am wrong. Would I be right to say I need to use another player that specifically has a feature of search/display music by folders?
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Yes, the stock htc music application sorts music by artist, album, music and then you can also create custom playlists.
Have you tried winamp for android? If it's anything like the pc version it will perfect for what you need.

SoundAlive - clarity preset removed?

I used to love the clarity preset that you could use on the Note5. For my taste of listening to music, it seemed to produce the perfect V-shaped EQ. Did they remove all those presets? I've tried toying with the actual EQ sliders and AdaptSound, but the EQ doesn't quite give me what I'm looking for, and trying to force AdaptSound to act as an EQ is difficult because the tone mapping order changes every time you set it up, so I can't memorize which tones to say "yes" or "no" to so that it further EQ's the treble and bass while leaving the mids alone.
I just installed the new Android 7.0 Nougat. I was so shocked as I noticed they removed the Clarity preset. It was an incredble quality boost! I've been looking for alternatives but nothing really seems to be able to replace the clarity preset in Soundalive. Once Samsung is developping something really really good and unique and then they remove it...

No Stock System-Wide Equalizer?

Is there no system wide equalizer? Coming from a Samsung, one thing I enjoyed was being able to adjust the sound system-wide (for things like Youtube, other music sources with no equalizer, etc.) to complement my headphones better.
It looks like there's literally nothing I can adjust expect for db levels for each ear.
What are you all doing to adjust the sound?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/google-play-music-equalizer-t3519448

BEST audio player for ANDROID head units

Greets all!
I've just joined the Android Head Unit community with the installation of the ATOTO A6 (A6Y2721PB).
So far I love it with the exception of a few minor gripes.
The audio player that comes with it has terrible sort functions. OR basically non-existent sort functions. It categorizes (very badly) the music library into a few categories (Singers, Songs, albums, folders) and all poorly and inaccurately. If there was some useful sort functions under FOLDERS; this wouldn't be so bad, but there is not. It will not even sort alphabetically. It will sort by the number of tracks that is in each folder. That is worthless!
So I'm looking for a better player. I really don't care about STREAMING services support. It comes with Spotify and Pandora already and I don't use them. I'm interested in playing my 1000+ track music archive in the FLAC format. BUT I have to have adequate sort functions. Most all of my archive was not CD rips that does the CDDB encoding. I backed up all my original collection into WAV files a decade ago and that is the source. The only think I miss is the album art. The easy way is to have the album art store in each folder entitled folder.jpg. Many players will display that many don't recognize it. Also I need the player to support widgets so I can integrate the player into the home screen.
I've tried Foobar2000 and like the functionality but it is UGLY with only B&W menus and it does not support widgets. I'm going to try VLC but not sure it will handle music files as well as it does video.
Any suggestions out there?
Dr. Righteous said:
So I'm looking for a better player.
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There are many, many Android music players out there.... While opinions may differ based on users' experience, there's really only one that stands out for the use in a HU: PowerAMP . For me it's the player that has everything and is fully integrated in the Android system:
Great Audio ducking
Configurable widgets
Support for folders (and folder.jpg)
If not present, album art download
Has its own audio engine
Support for almost every car launcher
Beautiful album art support
and many more...
It takes some time to configure it the way you want to (don't need the visualizer for instance), but (almost) everything can be adjusted.
But to get the most out of if (that goes for every player), be sure to have your music properly tagged
I've got an old video on YouTube showing some PowerAmp footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT0ewLZ8mOc
Spotify
DragonFlye said:
There are many, many Android music players out there.... While opinions may differ based on users' experience, there's really only one that stands out for the use in a HU: PowerAMP . For me it's the player that has everything and is fully integrated in the Android system:
Great Audio ducking
Configurable widgets
Support for folders (and folder.jpg)
If not present, album art download
Has its own audio engine
Support for almost every car launcher
Beautiful album art support
and many more...
It takes some time to configure it the way you want to (don't need the visualizer for instance), but (almost) everything can be adjusted.
But to get the most out of if (that goes for every player), be sure to have your music properly tagged
I've got an old video on YouTube showing some PowerAmp footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT0ewLZ8mOc
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That's nice, but would not it be better if it have a integrated DSP chip in combination with poweramp?
DragonFlye said:
There are many, many Android music players out there.... While opinions may differ based on users' experience, there's really only one that stands out for the use in a HU: PowerAMP . For me it's the player that has everything and is fully integrated in the Android system:
Great Audio ducking
Configurable widgets
Support for folders (and folder.jpg)
If not present, album art download
Has its own audio engine
Support for almost every car launcher
Beautiful album art support
and many more...
It takes some time to configure it the way you want to (don't need the visualizer for instance), but (almost) everything can be adjusted.
But to get the most out of if (that goes for every player), be sure to have your music properly tagged
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Great, this is what I was looking for. I see the paid version is only about 4 bux. I'll try it and see if it does what it needs to. I'm ready to uninstall the player than came with the unit. Nothing but frustration.
Flemischguy said:
That's nice, but would not it be better if it have a integrated DSP chip in combination with poweramp?
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Well it all depends on your speakers off course and I don't have a DSP. But I can tell you that on the Head Unit I have, the original sound was ok. After using and enabling PowerAmp's own engine and equalizer, sound was far, far better.
However, using Viper4Android (if you're HU is rooted) takes the sound to another level. I didn't even know my stock car speakers could produce such rich basses... I guess having a DSP would give you similar results.
Well gentleman,
I installed PowerAmp and paid the 4 bux for the full version.
Overall I really like it's feature and silky smooth operation. The issue I have is that the sound output level is about HALF of the other audio apps. This is a big problem since I have to turn the volume up much more to hear it's playback. I went under the audio tab and made different changes to the setting trying to get more output from it but no dice.
I'm going to email the developer on the issue. But otherwise this one is a keeper, I really like it's functionality.
BTW, The Atoto A6 does have it's own DSP chip for audio processing.
Dr. Righteous said:
Well gentleman,
I installed PowerAmp and paid the 4 bux for the full version.
Overall I really like it's feature and silky smooth operation. The issue I have is that the sound output level is about HALF of the other audio apps. This is a big problem since I have to turn the volume up much more to hear it's playback. I went under the audio tab and made different changes to the setting trying to get more output from it but no dice.
I'm going to email the developer on the issue. But otherwise this one is a keeper, I really like it's functionality.
BTW, The Atoto A6 does have it's own DSP chip for audio processing.
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PowerAmp has a separate master volume control. Have you tried that? Also the equalizer has a master gain.
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Dr. Righteous said:
Well gentleman,
I installed PowerAmp and paid the 4 bux for the full version.
Overall I really like it's feature and silky smooth operation. The issue I have is that the sound output level is about HALF of the other audio apps. This is a big problem since I have to turn the volume up much more to hear it's playback. I went under the audio tab and made different changes to the setting trying to get more output from it but no dice.
I'm going to email the developer on the issue. But otherwise this one is a keeper, I really like it's functionality.
BTW, The Atoto A6 does have it's own DSP chip for audio processing.
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PowerAmp has a separate master volume control. Have you tried that? Also the equalizer has a master gain and look under Settings ->Audio engine ->advanced: Experiment with Direct Volume Control
DragonFlye said:
PowerAmp has a separate master volume control. Have you tried that? Also the equalizer has a master gain.
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PowerAmp has a separate master volume control. Have you tried that? Also the equalizer has a master gain and look under Settings ->Audio engine ->advanced: Experiment with Direct Volume Control
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Yeah, I got on the PowerAmp site and looked through their FAQ page. It recommended turning DVC off if you have volume problems.
I'll try that after work today.
ive been using Power Amp for a while on my android head unit. It is the best of the bunch. The latest update has created issues playing music so until a new stable release was offered, I tried a few others and the rest are just okay. VLC was actually pretty good but I found that most of the players won't pass audio file text to the home screen widget and won't display my album art. So I am back to power amp. the dev has sent me a link to an alpha build that should fix my issue. I have just been too lazy to install it.
I got the widget working and was able to turn off the DVC function. The volume level is back to normal now so I'm really loving PowerAmp. It has features I really don't need or want but at least I can turn them off so they won't cause havoc unlike the other players I tried.
As far as the DVC function it seemed like a good thing but it just cut the sound output way too low. Reading on the PowerAmp site it stated that incompatibility with DVC will cause this. I'm wondering that this means. This unit (Atoto A6) has it's own DSP for audio affects like EQ etc. I'm wondering if that is the issue.
I also have a forward facing camera for the DVR and a backup camera. Plus various part to make all the USB connections accessible to the passenger compartment. I planned to install all that this weekend. Well didn't happen. The washing machine blew up and we ended up in town all day shopping for a replacement. Will get to it soon.
Hi. My problem with poweramp is that when someone calls me my headunit stops playing music and i am answering the call. But 1 second later music starts plwying again and i can not hear the caller and he cant hear me cause of the music...
Greets
I like gone mad music player (GMMP).
twokidsandaphone said:
I like gone mad music player (GMMP).
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GMMP is the best pick if you have a large music collection. I have 40k+ tracks on a mechanical HD on my head unit. GMMP will play through them no problem with an initial delay of about 30 seconds for the scan to get going. Poweramp craps itself and hangs for long periods of time (up to 60 minutes) while it scans/updates it's library. And then takes about 20-30 seconds to skip a track.
So my votes:
Small music collection, go for Poweramp.
Large music collection, go for GMMP.
I probably tried more than 20 apps, in the end it was Neutron that gave me the best results, I play only flac and have like 240 GB of them in my car, it works really flawless but you need to take the time to adapt it to your likes since really everything can be configured
http://neutronmp.com/
I've been using this for about 5 months, it's nice.. only thing bad is, it doesn't like to start in the SD card folder after starting up after being shutoff, so I have to manually browse to the SD card fold every time I start my truck..
It seems as all the dsp features do work.. there's a million things and settings in this paid app, seems to get updated regularly.. I wish it would leave the track list on screen all the time if wanted
henri_p said:
I probably tried more than 20 apps, in the end it was Neutron that gave me the best results, I play only flac and have like 240 GB of them in my car, it works really flawless but you need to take the time to adapt it to your likes since really everything can be configured
http://neutronmp.com/
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Martin1207 said:
Hi. My problem with poweramp is that when someone calls me my headunit stops playing music and i am answering the call. But 1 second later music starts plwying again and i can not hear the caller and he cant hear me cause of the music...
Greets
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Wow;
Not had that issue. What ever is playing it all mutes until the phone call is done on my ATOTO.
There are a ton of setting for everything in Power amp. Look through the settings and see if you can find a mute on call feature.
Have anyone been able to get an ipod to play through any app?
tankdog03 said:
I've been using this for about 5 months, it's nice.. only thing bad is, it doesn't like to start in the SD card folder after starting up after being shutoff, so I have to manually browse to the SD card fold every time I start my truck..
It seems as all the dsp features do work.. there's a million things and settings in this paid app, seems to get updated regularly.. I wish it would leave the track list on screen all the time if wanted
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just tried this app, having similar issue. I think for me at least it gets totally confused when I plug in or disconnect another UDB drive. It seems as tho my HU(IDoing) shifts the USB volumes and neutron loses it's library. Otherwise the app seems near perfect.

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