I got my AT&T s4 today.
can install the OTA and then root?
is it still safe to do that so it will work with Dan's bootloader?
karelson said:
I got my AT&T s4 today.
can install the OTA and then root?
is it still safe to do that so it will work with Dan's bootloader?
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Dan said that the current OTA update will not negatively affect his bootloader hack. See his post here.
Also, taking the OTA update will not affect the ability to root.
Future OTA updates might, so be careful.
So , I can update the OTA and then root....
and how can I block next OTA?
karelson said:
So , I can update the OTA and then root....
and how can I block next OTA?
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Correct. To block future OTA updates, "Freeze" the following three applications:
AT&T Software update Vxx_x_xxxx_x_x
FWUpgrade x.x.x
LocalFOTA vx_xxxx_x_x
Freezing (with Titanium Backup) will keep them from running, and effectively hide them from the rest of your system. Otherwise, you may find a way to backup and uninstall them completely, but this is more risky if you're ever planning to take an OTA update in the future.
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karelson said:
I got my AT&T s4 today.
can install the OTA and then root?
is it still safe to do that so it will work with Dan's bootloader?
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I did the OTA for Canadian Bell variant, and then used motochopper's method to root.
Aou said:
Correct. To block future OTA updates, "Freeze" the following three applications:
AT&T Software update Vxx_x_xxxx_x_x
FWUpgrade x.x.x
LocalFOTA vx_xxxx_x_x
Freezing (with Titanium Backup) will keep them from running, and effectively hide them from the rest of your system. Otherwise, you may find a way to backup and uninstall them completely, but this is more risky if you're ever planning to take an OTA update in the future.
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it's very useful ,thanks very much for this.
thanks
worked thank you.
Aou said:
Correct. To block future OTA updates, "Freeze" the following three applications:
AT&T Software update Vxx_x_xxxx_x_x
FWUpgrade x.x.x
LocalFOTA vx_xxxx_x_x
Freezing (with Titanium Backup) will keep them from running, and effectively hide them from the rest of your system. Otherwise, you may find a way to backup and uninstall them completely, but this is more risky if you're ever planning to take an OTA update in the future.
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i was able to find localfota in TB but not the other two. I can find FWU by seeing it in Root explorer. but not att software update
cnnxda said:
i was able to find localfota in TB but not the other two. I can find FWU by seeing it in Root explorer. but not att software update
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If you can find them just rename them to something you'll remember in case you want to rename them back to what they were before. You'll need a root file manager like root explorer.
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Hi All,
Please forgive me if this sounds like a noob question...
Here is the situation:
Rooted verizon galaxy s5 with towel root.
Cannot install the new OTA update they just released, the update downloads and fails on the attempt to install. Shows the little green android with red ! in his belly:cyclops:
Please help! You guys are awesome! I really want this update
nickd1976 said:
Hi All,
Please forgive me if this sounds like a noob question...
Here is the situation:
Rooted verizon galaxy s5 with towel root.
Cannot install the new OTA update they just released, the update downloads and fails on the attempt to install. Shows the little green android with red ! in his belly:cyclops:
Please help! You guys are awesome! I really want this update
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First, plug phone into computer, and install updater software from the phone that is on the device in 'Installer Mode'. Take the download on the PC, then follow directions below, and you can still have root after.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-g900vvru1ane9-t2836201
For more information, read through this thread as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/verizon-ota-rolling-t2834027
Thank you so much!!!
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Some reason the upgrade button is greyed out
kprice8 said:
First, plug phone into computer, and install updater software from the phone that is on the device in 'Installer Mode'. Take the download on the PC, then follow directions below, and you can still have root after.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-g900vvru1ane9-t2836201
For more information, read through this thread as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/verizon-ota-rolling-t2834027
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Hi again,
I installed the upgrade assistant in installer mode but for some reason it is not picking up the new NE9 update on my computer. See attached print screen. Very strange.. It sees the update on my phone to download though.:cyclops: Do you know why this is and how I can get it to see the update on the upgrade assistant as you mentioned?
Kind Regards
Can you explain why you want the update so bad? You do realize that rooting and accepting official otas is completely contradictory, correct? OTAs are generally what fix things like what towelroot exploits. If you accept official OTA, you will likely lose root.
But can't I just re root after the ota? I guess the reason I want the Ota because I heard of camera enhancements and stability fixes
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nickd1976 said:
But can't I just re root after the ota? I guess the reason I want the Ota because I heard of camera enhancements and stability fixes
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No. OTA have patches for known security flaws as well. The flaw that towelroot relies on is closed after the new OTA. Meaning, no more root.
edit: in this case I believe folks have figured out a work around for keeping root with the update. In general though, if you value root and what it provides you do not accept official releases.
ks3rv3rg said:
No. OTA have patches for known security flaws as well. The flaw that towelroot relies on is closed after the new OTA. Meaning, no more root.
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@ks3rv3rg I believe the links mentioned above provide a workaround for the Root to be kept after updating.
As for the problem nick, I can't help you there. I haven't personally take it as I see taking OTA's is silly with a rooted phone you can modify to be much more. Perhaps someone else who has done it will chime in...
Thank you both for your perspectives.. Plus, I can always just wait for a ROM that currently has the update installed.
ks3rv3rg said:
No. OTA have patches for known security flaws as well. The flaw that towelroot relies on is closed after the new OTA. Meaning, no more root.
edit: in this case I believe folks have figured out a work around for keeping root with the update. In general though, if you value root and what it provides you do not accept official releases.
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@ks3rv3rg I believe the links mentioned above provide a workaround for the Root to be kept after updating.
As for the problem nick, I can't help you there. I haven't personally take it as I see taking OTA's is silly with a rooted phone you can modify to be much more. Perhaps someone else who has done it will chime in...
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Thank you both for educating me on this. Ill try the work around to try to keep the root and update. I just wish I could get the Verizon update assistant to download the NE9. Either way Ill just wait for a ROM with the new OTA.
nickd1976 said:
Thank you both for educating me on this. Ill try the work around to try to keep the root and update. I just wish I could get the Verizon update assistant to download the NE9. Either way Ill just wait for a ROM with the new OTA.
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I just saw that JasmineROM came out and it's updated to NE9 and all you do is flash the stuff. Check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/rom-jasminerom-v1-0-bases-t2836387
nickd1976 said:
Thank you both for educating me on this. Ill try the work around to try to keep the root and update. I just wish I could get the Verizon update assistant to download the NE9. Either way Ill just wait for a ROM with the new OTA.
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Good choice. I know I saw someone mention that they were building a safestrap flashable ota rom.
ks3rv3rg said:
Good choice. I know I saw someone mention that they were building a safestrap flashable ota rom.
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Me? Directly above you? XD lol
ks3rv3rg said:
Good choice. I know I saw someone mention that they were building a safestrap flashable ota rom.
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I think you are referring to my safestrap flashable OTA zip file. I'm going to keep that one in my back pocket for the next OTA since the kernel swap worked.
I'm happy to say I installed this rom and the firmware and it rocks!! Thank you .plus I got my download booster and my overclock settings!!
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I have a similar question but reversed. How do I stop it from updating and it from asking me to update? I have the free version of titanium backup and can't freeze it. Is their another way? I can't turn off SDM that runs the ota upgrade i can only force stop it.
jpcloudsurf said:
I have a similar question but reversed. How do I stop it from updating and it from asking me to update? I have the free version of titanium backup and can't freeze it. Is their another way? I can't turn off SDM that runs the ota upgrade i can only force stop it.
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Remove it. Won't hurt anything.
TiBu
Buying the pro version of TiBu was the best money I ever spent!!!!
What is tibu?
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nickd1976 said:
What is tibu?
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Titanium Backup
Did anybody else get this update it just popped up on mine today will it break my root? Includes sidesync app with update. Update is 147.33 mb. Thanks for any info...
tkienzle said:
Did anybody else get this update it just popped up on mine today will it break my root? Includes sidesync app with update. Update is 147.33 mb. Thanks for any info...
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Always assume that any OTA or official update will break root and there is some risk that an update will actually brick your phone.
You should also assume that any OTA or official updates will prevent any known root methods from working in the future.
In short, if you are rooted don't take an OTA and if you think you want to root in the future still don't take an OTA.
One of the first things I do when I root a device is disable the OTA update mechanism so I'll never even see the notification.
Yes, the the new firmware update did break my root. I used towelroot. I have a galaxy tab 4 10.1 sm-t530nu.
Can you guys tell me whats the changelog? I dont want to lose root, but its worth it if its a major update.
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I updated my SM-T335 today. Changelog just said "Stability improvement"
I just bought this tablet today....didn't even think about the update...now I have to wait to root.
Not necessarily.
Im working on reverting my 10.1 to the prior firmware version. I just need to confirm that this is the appropriate firmware
PDA: T530NUUEU1AND4
OK, I used odin and restored the previous firmware. Ran towelroot again, and all is back to the way it was before the mistake in software update.
I was able to freeze LocalFOTA.apk but these were not there to freeze:
Kies.apk
SyncmIDM.apk
SyncmIDS.apk
If you've upgraded to the new Lollipop 5.0.1 update (N910VVRU1BOAF) for Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (N910V):
MAKE SURE YOU NEVER TAKE ANY OTA
unless/until
IT IS CONFIRMED THAT IT IS SAFE TO UPGRADE/DOWNGRADE
or
A dev has made a SAFE UPGRADE via Odin or recovery-flashable .ZIP
One of the main advantages of this update is that you can use ODIN to go back to KK 4.4.4 at anytime, since the bootloader isn't incremented.
For Retail Edition: This is very important if you want to gain ROOT access when available & keep it over OTAs then.
For Developer Edition: Some of you have taken the OTA & restored his aboot backup via Odin. This was fine ONLY for this update. However, if the bootloader is incremented with any coming OTA, it'll block your unlocked bootloader for good & you'll end up with a Retail Edition. Moreover, if you were able to restore your aboot over an incremented bootloader using ADB/dd/etc utilizing ROOT access, you'll most likely HARD BRICK your device since the other critical partitions (TZ, SBL, ... etc) can break boot sequence due to failure in signature verification or version check.
Do we know if the updates will automatically install after a period of time?
I'm still on 4.4.4 NJ5, and the dialog pops up periodically. I am running without using the "no OTA" script at the moment. Has anyone experienced the phone update by itself after a while?
^^^I'm not sure, but I've been postponing mine since the Ota was pushed.
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Do we know if the updates will automatically install after a period of time?
I'm still on 4.4.4 NJ5, and the dialog pops up periodically. I am running without using the "no OTA" script at the moment. Has anyone experienced the phone update by itself after a while?
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droidx2.3.3 said:
^^^I'm not sure, but I've been postponing mine since the Ota was pushed.
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It's recommended to disable the OTA & manually update whenever you wish, if it's safe.
When blocking/disabling packages, which is the one that stops OTA. I've used the debloat tool for lollipop but just want to ensure that I've blocked it since I don't see any packages titled specifically as "OTA"
itspeat said:
When blocking/disabling packages, which is the one that stops OTA. I've used the debloat tool for lollipop but just want to ensure that I've blocked it since I don't see any packages titled specifically as "OTA"
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I believe your looking for "SDM"
rhilway said:
I believe your looking for "SDM"
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You are correct.
Manually updating
hsbadr said:
It's recommended to disable the OTA & manually update whenever you wish, if it's safe.
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Know where I can grab the 5.01 firmware? I've already debloated / disabled OTA's, etc.
Also, I'm going to want to flash it through Odin, right? I'm on the retail edition (N910V)
Much Appreciated
Nameless crowd face said:
Know where I can grab the 5.01 firmware? I've already debloated / disabled OTA's, etc.
Also, I'm going to want to flash it through Odin, right? I'm on the retail edition (N910V)
Much Appreciated
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For Retail Edition, follow instructions here to flash N910VVRU1BOAF_FullFirmware.tar.md5.7z!
So if if I upgraded to Lollipop can I still downgrade back to Kit Kat?
hsbadr said:
For Retail Edition, follow instructions here to flash N910VVRU1BOAF_FullFirmware.tar.md5.7z!
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Thank you again man
samhainww said:
So if if I upgraded to Lollipop can I still downgrade back to Kit Kat?
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I did last night, just use Odin to flash the NJ5 firmware, when it tries to boot the first time it will bootloop. Pull the battery, replace the battery and boot to recovery (vol up+home+power) then wipe data. The phone will boot to the setup wizard for KK.
I'm a bit confused about this thread. What would the next update lock that isn't already locked? As I understand, the hope of rooting now is looking quite dim.
Not sure I care much since the SD card limitation has been addressed. That was the only reason I rooted my last phone.
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starbuckk said:
I'm a bit confused about this thread. What would the next update lock that isn't already locked? As I understand, the hope of rooting now is looking quite dim.
Not sure I care much since the SD card limitation has been addressed. That was the only reason I rooted my last phone.
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From what I understand, its been confirmed that you can downgrade back to KK from 5.01. However, any updates thereafter (esp. OTA's through your carrier) have the potential to take away that ability to downgrade. A good example of this is the situation that happend with Verizon's Galaxy S4. The Update after MDK locked both the bootloader and the ability to downgrade back to MDK. No one was able to figure out how to downgrade back to MDK and only those fortunate enough not to have taken the update after mdk could flash custom roms that weren't touchwiz based (ie aosp). Since we don't know what the future holds for root on this device, its wise to keep all of your avenues open.
starbuckk said:
I'm a bit confused about this thread. What would the next update lock that isn't already locked? As I understand, the hope of rooting now is looking quite dim.
Not sure I care much since the SD card limitation has been addressed. That was the only reason I rooted my last phone.
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Nameless crowd face said:
From what I understand, its been confirmed that you can downgrade back to KK from 5.01. However, any updates thereafter (esp. OTA's through your carrier) have the potential to take away that ability to downgrade. A good example of this is the situation that happend with Verizon's Galaxy S4. The Update after MDK locked both the bootloader and the ability to downgrade back to MDK. No one was able to figure out how to downgrade back to MDK and only those fortunate enough not to have taken the update after mdk could flash custom roms that weren't touchwiz based (ie aosp). Since we don't know what the future holds for root on this device, its wise to keep all of your avenues open.
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+1
Another example, some Note 3 users fall into the trap of 4.4.4 OTA update & with no option to downgrade, they lost root, custom TW ROMs, and almost everything. Now, they're waiting with Note 4 users for a root method to rejoin the party while Note 3 on 4.4.2 can be rooted using TowelRoot.
Which tool?
itspeat said:
When blocking/disabling packages, which is the one that stops OTA. I've used the debloat tool for lollipop but just want to ensure that I've blocked it since I don't see any packages titled specifically as "OTA"
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All of the debloat tools that I find require root, which are you using?
There's a script that someone wrote to disable Ota and debloat. It doesn't need root. Sacher around on here for it
So would it be a bad idea to update just using the software update in the phones settings menu? Or should I do it by running odin? What actual difference does this make? Will this cause me issues once we do have a root method for this device?
As of now it makes no difference.
Stupid question, but how do you turn off automatic OTA on lollipop?
Hello,
I am about go get back my phone from the repair and I think I will have ZUI installed as an operating system because they have changed my phone's motherboard. I have a few questions regarding the ZUI. Can the bloatware be removed? If it can only be removed with root, how to root it? Also, an important question, if I root it, will I receive the OTA updates?
Thanks!
MrWhite98 said:
Hello,
I am about go get back my phone from the repair and I think I will have ZUI installed as an operating system because they have changed my phone's motherboard. I have a few questions regarding the ZUI. Can the bloatware be removed? If it can only be removed with root, how to root it? Also, an important question, if I root it, will I receive the OTA updates?
Thanks!
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You need always root to remove system apps. And how to root, mate it's written here in more then one tread like all in one tool etc. In original Android development or general section. Official updates can disable root, when they will write new boot partition.
strongst said:
You need always root to remove system apps. And how to root, mate it's written here in more then one tread like all in one tool etc. In original Android development or general section. Official updates can disable root, when they will write new boot partition.
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So there is no way to remove bloatware without losing the possibility to receive OTA updates?
MrWhite98 said:
So there is no way to remove bloatware without losing the possibility to receive OTA updates?
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After each ota update, you must remove them again
strongst said:
After each ota update, you must remove them again
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Yeah, that sucks. Is there at least any way to just hide the icons of the bloatware apps?
MrWhite98 said:
Yeah, that sucks. Is there at least any way to just hide the icons of the bloatware apps?
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Since marshmallow you can disable apps. With other launchers you can hide them, in Zui I don't know if the launcher can hide icons
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Since marshmallow you can disable apps. With other launchers you can hide them, in Zui I don't know if the launcher can hide icons
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Thank you!
Look everywhere... I give up. Does anyone know how to disable OTA software update in a non rooted S7? I want to stay in APK1. I don't want Nougat. Please and Thank you!
TJO2 said:
Look everywhere... I give up. Does anyone know how to disable OTA software update in a non rooted S7? I want to stay in APK1. I don't want Nougat. Please and Thank you!
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You can try package disabler pro. If that don't work then you SOL unless you root.
dirtydodge said:
You can try package disabler pro. If that don't work then you SOL unless you root.
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Yes I tried it but I don't know which app or script has to be disabled.
Update: Using Package Disabler Pro freezes various apps then the next 48 hours I dont recieve any notifications to software updates. In reality, I still dont know which one of the apps prevents the update. The freeze apps are:
AT&T Remote Support
Backup and Restore Manager
ConfigUpdater
DiagMonAgent
Nearby Service
In addition to others such as Direct TV and bloatwares from AT&T that have nothing to do with the software update.