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Hi!
im going to get the N10 in the next week and the first thing i will do because im a color junkie is a calibration test so se how close/far it is from
reference.
i have been into hardware calibration for displays for some years so i see myself as a pro.
i have X-Rite Display 3 Colorimeter and Chroma Pure calibration program.
http://www.chromapure.com/
the test patterns i use is from AVSHD709
http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration
i have already calibrated my LG Infinia LED TV to reference quality,so if only the right (ISF/CMS) settings is there i can calibrate any display to near reference quality.
but its all about the settings how much you can change.
so the question is:
is there a App that i can change the RGB values and saturation/hue also gamma settings?
or do i need to get a custom rom?
i know some custom roms for the SG2 has some screen/gamma adjustments in EX tweaks.
if its not i will still post the results from the calibration so you can check it out to see how good/bad calibrated the Nexus 10 is
Edit: i just found one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745248
but i need this for the N10
Theres an app in the play store called Screen Adjuster that allows to change RGB, contrast, brightness but requires root. Been wanting to try it but I cant root my tablet as my pc wont recognize my tablet in fastboot.
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aznmode said:
Theres an app in the play store called Screen Adjuster that allows to change RGB, contrast, brightness but requires root. Been wanting to try it but I cant root my tablet as my pc wont recognize my tablet in fastboot.
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Just tried it out and it seemed to slow down the tablet.
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Just tried it out and it seemed to slow down the tablet.
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Try not to use contrast if you don't need it. That's what's slowed my galaxy s3 down
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Apps on the market only apply a filter on top of the screen. You're going to want a kernel with proper color calibration support to prevent performance loss.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6472/ipad-4-late-2012-review/2
Here's anandtech's review of tablet displays.
vitaminxero said:
Apps on the market only apply a filter on top of the screen. You're going to want a kernel with proper color calibration support to prevent performance loss.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6472/ipad-4-late-2012-review/2
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thanks for the link
interesting
damn the Nexus 10 is WAY off in the Gamut Chart!
how the hell can they release a screen thats is so off?
surley needs some calibration there
fix a kernel with RGB adjustments and i will fix a calibration that is better than on the iPad4.
after that you can just copy the settings and BOOM you have a reference display.
(that is if the screens dont differ to much)
i have the tools and the Knowlegde to calibrate displays but zippo knowlegde in hacking kernels
so Kernel Experts
MAKE IT HAPPEND!
Edit: first thing you will start with is the grayscale
when the grayscale is right (whites is white and not blue) then automatic you have your 6500k color temp (6500kelvin is messured from daylight in california if someone wants to know)
Also the Gamut is adjusted in position.
so its easy
with a correct grayscale everything (almost) else becomes right on spot.
one setting that they dont test there is Gamma
gamma at 2.2 is important if you want to see all details in darker parts of movies or photos.
gamma is adjusted with all three sliders Red/Green/Blue locked
So what i need is RGB adjustments and Saturation/HUE adjustments if its possible
comon hackers
we must beat the iPad!
If you want to have ICC support in kernel you've to ask a kernel dev. But I don't think that someone will implement this feature. Because the majority of users doesn't know or care about correct colors.
As the test results of your linked page show the N10 reaches a "good" neutral in white, gray and black. But the contrast is very low and by calibrating and profiling it you'll reduce it more. You've to calibrate D65 at 120 - 140 cd and after this to write a correction profile especially for blue and violet tones.
Apple does such things because their customers want to have and need good colors. But I don't see a market for android users. Photoshop touch is crap and there is no other "real" graphics suite / app. Given gamut is okay for daily use, e.g. viewing movies and surfing around the web.
So, don't be disappointed if your wish to cailbrate and profile the N10 won't be possible at all. An google seems not to have plans for ICC support in android, see https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/android-developers/Ifnsdbkqxqo
The only thing that really seems off is that it has very washed out purples. Its fine other than that. It strange as it can display blue and red just fine.
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If you want to have ICC support in kernel you've to ask a kernel dev. But I don't think that someone will implement this feature. Because the majority of users doesn't know or care about correct colors.[/url]
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Fortunately a lot of devs seems to think different seeing the amount of stuff they've coded that average Joe doesn't know or care about.
I for one would love to see the OP succeed as i see nothing wrong with getting better colour accuracy on my N10.
I personally really hope that a color calibration app/kernel becomes available.....devs PLEASE make it happen!! I like the punchy (albeit 'ficticious') colors of the amoLED display on my Galaxy Note....Please devs, give us the option to control/enhance the color of the Nexus 10's screen!
Another shout for some calibration tools on the nexus 10. All my main displays are calibrated & it's quite a shock to pick up my nexus 10 & the see the washed out colours
Indeed, the guy who mentioned the fact that the average Joe doesn't care about color reproduction is forgetting the fact that not a single one of us here is an average consumer, I also own an iPad 3 and I really loathe the washed out look on our display, the iPad looks very similar to the calibration I have on my Sony TV while the nexus looks almost like a color less gray when its put beside them, they all look like crap when you put them besides my SGS 2 though, all I really need to be completely happy with my Nexus would be a way to calibrate our screens, I have already pretty much given the iPad to my little sister but I hate to admit that the colors there look much much better than on the Nexus.
And by loathe I mean that I completely hate and despise it, such a great display ruined by the damn color calibration, the option should be built into Android for ****s sake.
PLEASE devs make it happen, color calibration seems to be an issue shared between all of the recent Nexus devices, for example, the screen on the Nexus 4 doesn't look as good as the one on the LG Optimus G (Or so I've read)
It's a shame Google are apathetic on this issue. Users that want do photo work are forced to go to Apple. Small OT aside: It's the same deal with audio creation apps/interfaces, Google doesn't care. I'd rather set my sites on Ubuntu.
Another vote for getting some kind of good calibration tool for the N10. I can put up with a lot, but the black levels are killing me. I would even put up with some loss of detail if I could get better black levels.
So... Guys, how can we contact Google to ask them to fix this themselves or do something so we can fix it ourselves?
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So... Guys, how can we contact Google to ask them to fix this themselves or do something so we can fix it ourselves?
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i will search tomorrow
but isnt this a problem for samsung?
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i will search tomorrow
but isnt this a problem for samsung?
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Nah, the screen on the Nexus 4 doesn't look as good as the one in the Optimus G and the screen on the 7 is kind of washed out from what I've read, and from past experience I've seen that Samsung tends to calibrate their screens pretty nice, (albeit a bit saturated) on factory settings across all devices.
Hope someone can sort out the black levels, watching movies the blacks look grey specially with Dark Knight! Tried all sorts of things but nowt helping!
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Nah, the screen on the Nexus 4 doesn't look as good as the one in the Optimus G and the screen on the 7 is kind of washed out from what I've read, and from past experience I've seen that Samsung tends to calibrate their screens pretty nice, (albeit a bit saturated) on factory settings across all devices.
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It's a shame for Google not calibrating any of their screens. Nexus 4 has those ugly washed colors, same with the nexus 10. And black levels, despite as many synthetic tests you will post (anandtech etc) are quite bad.
I'm so sure this is software... and 0 upgrades from Google. Its ok they will push next version of android as soon as avaliable, but nothing else, no OTAs for bug fixing. Any other brand would have already pushed several upgrades to new devices, bugs appear and samsung, htc etc gives you solutions (not always, but...)
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I just loved the photos of the device itself
Ill be collecting the reviews as well in the mega thread, thanks
They are also complaining that the speakers are too loud lol
The camera photos look awesome as well
Don't know what the complaining about
"First look":
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one-review-889.php
A long video review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmsx0ddLtJM
Uh oh, dial a phone didn't rate the battery very highly.
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Dial a phone claiming the screen on the Z is better? ok now this is why I don't trust reviews, as this guy has to be having a laugh I have held both phones side by size and while I dont think the xz's screen is crap in anyway the HTC screen is superior.
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Dial a phoen claiming the screen on the Z is better? ok now this is why I don't trust reviews, as this guy has to be having a laugh I have held both phones side by size and while I dont think the xz's screen is crap in anyway the HTc screen is superior.
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That's strange coming from a guy who has SONY in his ID name just kidding
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That's strange coming from a guy who has SONY in his ID name just kidding
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I love both HTC and Sony but I am not biased to either OEM.
Not sure they are claiming the XZ screen is better, the way i took it is that when you first see the XZ there is a wow factor, but then after actually looking at it and using it, you come to realise that it isn't up to scratch. I reckon that's what he means by the "breathtaking impression"
Just my opinion though
A mate of mine was 100% set for the Z until he saw the HTC One now he all is over that like a rash!
CNets hands on with the camera features: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2EODU1qx64&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I do wish people would quote accurately from reviews. What the dial-a-phone guy actually says is
The 4.7-inch super LCD 3 screen may not be as bright and dazzling as that of the Sony Xperia Z but still offers a clarity that is pretty much unmatched amongst mobile devices.
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"Bright and dazzling" could simply be a reference to maximum screen brightness, or it could be that he likes over-saturated colours and is a fan of the Xperia's Bravia processing.
I'm skeptical of that Dialaphone review. He says some of your apps may be "tucked away further then you'd like" because of the BlinkFeed stuff, which is completely incorrect. Just don't use BlinkFeed for God's sake. Set another default screen (which he says is possible) and never look at it again. I just cannot understand that argument or how he thinks the Xperia Z's screen is better when every other hands-on, preview, write up, etc about the One says that it has the best display. Same goes for the tinny speakers, that is the first I've heard of them being tinny.
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I do wish people would quote accurately from reviews. What the dial-a-phone guy actually says is
"Bright and dazzling" could simply be a reference to maximum screen brightness, or it could be that he likes over-saturated colours and is a fan of the Xperia's Bravia processing.
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After reading through the review and watching the video, the way he presents it definitely makes it sound like he thinks the Xperia Z's screen is better. He doesn't even reference viewing angles which should be a huge part of a screen review and we know the One outperforms the Z in that area. Plus, as a reviewer, he should make his opinion clearer. If he is insinuating that he only likes the Z's screen because it is brighter, he should say that or at least give a clear indication to what he prefers (in this case, I took it as the Z's).
And what he actually says about the speakers is
Those stereo speakers we mentioned earlier also increase the handset’s abilities, although their use is limited. The HTC One struggles to produce low frequencies and we don’t imagine these will ever truly replace headphones or external speakers.
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That's perfectly fair: you shouldn't expect deep bass from speakers that size. (But he doesn't use the word "tinny").
He does in the video review.
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Uh oh, dial a phone didn't rate the battery very highly.
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In benchmark.pl review, very long battery life is one of the pros.
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(But he doesn't use the word "tinny").
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Erm........you might want to listen again around 1.08:silly:
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He does in the video review.
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Oh, okay.
i do find it interesting what each review says about the battery.
The fact neither give any sort of details like brightness and wifi on off, 4g on off etc..etc...
Benchmark seems very impressed while dialaphone seemed dissapointed that it wouldnt last a whole day,
yet mentions several hours of streaming music and heavy usage.
If the phone lasted pretty much whole day on that kind of usage i will be chuffed. Means the way i use my phone
i will get 2 days out of it easy. (or i might just change my habbits and keep wifi and full brightness on because i could )
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A mate of mine was 100% set for the Z until he saw the HTC One now he all is over that like a rash!
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That was me aswell, I was set for the Z until I saw the one and decided the one was the ONE.
Hey Guys,
This is my video comparison of the Xperia Z against the HTC One.
Hope it helps!
Leave a comment and let me know what you think
Ash
Just saw it.
Honestly? Biased as hell, some silly things there lol.
And you say the screen is better though the HTC you got was much worse.
Weellll.... Not good really.
In general:
You justify every crap HTC made, you criticize every thing on Sony.
And in reverse, every thing Sony made well becomes less important.
Truth is, HTC has tons of gimmicks on the phone which are not useful at all.
To name just a few, it's this Blinkfeed you cannot get rid off, totally undeperforming "ultrapixel" camera,
awkward and non logical buttons system, badly designed hardware buttons.
The fact is HTC's camera is a total crap, you just can't admit it.
And as for useless things, I think those stereo speakers are a gimmick. I mean I never listen to music this way, is it really the thing
people do on their phones that often?
One more thing, you couldn't - of course.. - stop yourself from those viewing angles discussion.
But why the f... you couldn't comment it's REAL, in front-of performance? And compare it to HTC?
Meeeh...
I give it 3 out of 5, thanks for effort.
Sharp edges on the Sony? Must be your device mines are soft.
There is no real proof that xz uses both dragontrail in the front and back.
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Just saw it.
Honestly? Biased as hell, some silly things there lol.
And you say the screen is better though the HTC you got was much worse.
Weellll.... Not good really.
In general:
You justify every crap HTC made, you criticize every thing on Sony.
And in reverse, every thing Sony made well becomes less important.
Truth is, HTC has tons of gimmicks on the phone which are not useful at all.
To name just a few, it's this Blinkfeed you cannot get rid off, totally undeperforming "ultrapixel" camera,
awkward and non logical buttons system, badly designed hardware buttons.
The fact is HTC's camera is a total crap, you just can't admit it.
And as for useless things, I think those stereo speakers are a gimmick. I mean I never listen to music this way, is it really the thing
people do on their phones that often?
One more thing, you couldn't - of course.. - stop yourself from those viewing angles discussion.
But why the f... you couldn't comment it's REAL, in front-of performance? And compare it to HTC?
Meeeh...
I give it 3 out of 5, thanks for effort.
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You wanna justify the screen? really? So I am biased huh? well lets break it down shall we?
Blinkfeed sucks and i pointed it out, lack of notifications suck again did mention it ...
I didnt say the One's stereo speakers are a innovation or they are the best ive ever seen... my s4 vs one comparison I said the s4 is louder, if i were being biased id have praised the one... I just mentioned its better than the xz's speakers cuz they are bad...
As for my htc one screen, had this been my 1st comparison id have mentioned the xz was brighter but I just did a comparison with the s4 where I said the s4 was brighter based on what I saw, after loads of comments that said i was wrong, i looked at ton of videos and articles to figure out wats actually brighter... so you can head on over the gsmarena and check the comparison too between the one and the xz... the one is brighter...
As for camera... its objective... the one outperforms the xperia z in low light and I "personally" keyword being "personally" like that better.. and i emphasize that its a personal call here.
As for specs again I mentioned that tho the one beats the xz in benchmarks theres nothing different in real time usage, to be biased I could have easily said the one was faster but I didnt.
Badly designed h/w buttons? Wasnt that what I started the comparison with? every -ve you talk about has been mentioned in the video...
The end result is am not the one being biased here, I dont have to be, I am a reviewer and I get every flagship phone on the market (which i need to sell off soon sadly ) and I dont need to justify my purchase and defend a device like you do...
Anyway hope you are happy with ur XZ... Peace!
When you do a review first you try to get your facts right, second you need to compare every aspect of them, you didn't compare the build quality of both phones. How about how easy aluminium scratches or dents? How about the bugs with zoe or the software, Sony has much polished software and build quality than the HTC.
You talk about speaker quality but we don't really have much time to hear both of them to feel the difference.
You can resize the album preview by pinching on the screen. So technically you were wrong about the number of thumbnails you can have as it can be much smaller or much larger.
You talk about screen quality washed angles (you put the device at extreme angles that no one watches the device) and then you can't do the same with the HTC one to see the difference? What kind of review is that if you don't compare them properly, then you talk about screen quality but you don't put both devices playing the same image or video simultaneous how can we see the difference?
Then you talk about the video player and xz is better but it's funny, you don't praise the Xperia you just excuse the HTC that has problems with codecs saying that you can use another player.
You say that the HTC one camera is more useful? How because of the zoe? Really do you think that is useful? I consider superior auto much useful than zoe and about camera quality yes it has better quality but stand still camera the xz wins hands down, try a macro shot with the z you will see the difference.
Call quality is bad on the xz? It got a second mic for noise cancellation so it's clear as the HTC one and even if the speaker is not as loud as the HTC it's does pretty good even in loud environment so don't talk bull****.
And then you end up saying that the xz screen is awful? Why? Because of the screen angles? Are you kidding? Or are you one of those that think that the screen looks washed out because of the gray ui? Compare properly both screens with a picture or a full hd movie with bravía engine and tell me how awful the screen is again.
You might say that you are not biased but it looks a hell of a lot that you prefer the HTC one personally even before the review.
Thanks for your time with the review though anyway I guess....
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When you do a review first you try to get your facts right, second you need to compare every aspect of them, you didn't compare the build quality of both phones. How about how easy aluminium scratches or dents? How about the bugs with zoe or the software, Sony has much polished software and build quality than the HTC.
You talk about speaker quality but we don't really have much time to hear both of them to feel the difference.
You can resize the album preview by pinching on the screen. So technically you were wrong about the number of thumbnails you can have as it can be much smaller or much larger.
You talk about screen quality washed angles (you put the device at extreme angles that no one watches the device) and then you can't do the same with the HTC one to see the difference? What kind of review is that if you don't compare them properly, then you talk about screen quality but you don't put both devices playing the same image or video simultaneous how can we see the difference?
Then you talk about the video player and xz is better but it's funny, you don't praise the Xperia you just excuse the HTC that has problems with codecs saying that you can use another player.
You say that the HTC one camera is more useful? How because of the zoe? Really do you think that is useful? I consider superior auto much useful than zoe and about camera quality yes it has better quality but stand still camera the xz wins hands down, try a macro shot with the z you will see the difference.
Call quality is bad on the xz? It got a second mic for noise cancellation so it's clear as the HTC one and even if the speaker is not as loud as the HTC it's does pretty good even in loud environment so don't talk bull****.
And then you end up saying that the xz screen is awful? Why? Because of the screen angles? Are you kidding? Or are you one of those that think that the screen looks washed out because of the gray ui? Compare properly both screens with a picture or a full hd movie with bravía engine and tell me how awful the screen is again.
You might say that you are not biased but it looks a hell of a lot that you prefer the HTC one personally even before the review.
Thanks for your time with the review though anyway I guess....
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1. Speaker Quality - agreed I should have shown more but its a well known fact in the 1st place, its a comparison and not a review
2. As for the album, I like the fact that it shows more... I said the xperia z utilizes the 1080p display better... it was something +ve that i was saying about the xz... phew!
3. The XZ's screen is washed out no matter how u try to justify it, so nope am not even gonna bother to reply to this...
4. You are looking at it with a bias, the video player has issues with common codecs like mkv and divx on the xz and that makes the xz better automatically...
5. Camera i left it as personal preference and i agree with u that ur preference is the xz
6. Its not BS... The volume on the earpiece is low, the lowest among flagships.. I shouldnt be pointing that out, instead I need to be pointing out what now? the fact that it has a secondary noise cancelling mic? a feature that 2 year old flagships have? phew again!
7. Yup the bravia engine improves things in the video player and i did point it out but s/w hard as it might try cannot make up for bad h/w
And I have owned the Xperia Z for well over a month now... and have used it as a daily driver for a min of 2 weeks so yup Ive tested and checked out the xperia z thoroughly...
thanks for your comment anyway i guess...
Well I compared the Samsung s4 screen to the Zs in the Tesco phone shop where I work and with auto brightness off and both screens set to max, the Z was clearly brighter. Indeed the brightness of the S4's screen is giving my girl second thoughts. Also if you still believe the htc one's camera is better than the Zs then your review isn't worth watching and I'm glad I didn't.
To be honest I just think it's become fashionable to praise the htc one. You know the old routine of the blind following the blind. The same **** that's been happening to the iPhone crowd for years.
Good job, I read the comments before watching your review. Would have been a waste of time
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1. Speaker Quality - agreed I should have shown more but its a well known fact in the 1st place, its a comparison and not a review
2. As for the album, I like the fact that it shows more... I said the xperia z utilizes the 1080p display better... it was something +ve that i was saying about the xz... phew!
3. The XZ's screen is washed out no matter how u try to justify it, so nope am not even gonna bother to reply to this...
4. You are looking at it with a bias, the video player has issues with common codecs like mkv and divx on the xz and that makes the xz better automatically...
5. Camera i left it as personal preference and i agree with u that ur preference is the xz
6. Its not BS... The volume on the earpiece is low, the lowest among flagships.. I shouldnt be pointing that out, instead I need to be pointing out what now? the fact that it has a secondary noise cancelling mic? a feature that 2 year old flagships have? phew again!
7. Yup the bravia engine improves things in the video player and i did point it out but s/w hard as it might try cannot make up for bad h/w
And I have owned the Xperia Z for well over a month now... and have used it as a daily driver for a min of 2 weeks so yup Ive tested and checked out the xperia z thoroughly...
thanks for your comment anyway i guess...
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2. My point was that you didn't explain how it worked properly.
3. So you are telling me that viewing the screen like a normal person it still looks washed out?
4. No but it makes the xz media player better than the HTC one in this case. No harm saying it.
6. That doesn't mean is crap just that the HTC got higher.
7. Bad h/w? Really? Like what?
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Well I compared the Samsung s4 screen to the Zs in the Tesco phone shop where I work and with auto brightness off and both screens set to max, the Z was clearly brighter. Indeed the brightness of the S4's screen is giving my girl second thoughts. Also if you still believe the htc one's camera is better than the Zs then your review isn't worth watching and I'm glad I didn't.
To be honest I just think it's become fashionable to praise the htc one. You know the old routine of the blind following the blind. The same **** that's been happening to the iPhone crowd for years.
Good job, I read the comments before watching your review. Would have been a waste of time
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lmao "blind following the blind" that coming from sm1 who takes others opinions and decides not to watch the video and form their own opinion... talk about being a hypocrite
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2. My point was that you didn't explain how it worked properly.
3. So you are telling me that viewing the screen like a normal person it still looks washed out?
4. No but it makes the xz media player better than the HTC one in this case. No harm saying it.
6. That doesn't mean is crap just that the HTC got higher.
7. Bad h/w? Really? Like what?
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2. Point is i didnt need to... I showed what was better about it.
3. Yup it does
4. When a videos already pushing 20 mins u want me to say stuff just to appease fanboys? its better it was said sue me for not singing praises
6. It is crap
7. bad display = bad hardware
Im sorry m8 I dont do 4-7min comparisons like most... I try to cover everything... It was 24 frikkin minutes for gods sakes... if theres something that i havent mentioned fair enough.. I cant spend time going into each and everything in detail for a comparison... thats what reviews are for... comparisons are what is better, what are the differences... did I show the way the ir remote on the one works? no, did I show the multiple lockscreen options that the one has in detail nope, I paid exactly the same attention to the one as i did to the xz....
Anyway I get it you've bought the phone, uve spent ur cash on it and now u want to justify it to urself... but cmon, the xz screen is really better than the one's? honest to god, you didnt open the box and for a second atleast wonder "is it juz my screen?"
As for me being biased...
I use a sony alpha 57 cam that i just purchased, I have a sony hx9v for my secondary cam, I own 2 sony playstation 3s.... do you see a pattern here? Lets take HTC.. I wasnt high on the butterfly in my comparisons and even rated the one x lower than the s3 last year in my comp... the one is the 1st htc phone that ive praised... and fyi last year everyone was singing praises for the one x... i liked it but i didnt prefer it over my s3 or note and thats exactly what i said in my vid... so this is how i genuinely feel about the device... so u still think I have it out for sony? Just like you I paid for my Xperia Z too...
Again as for the cam... I was very clear that the xz is the better cam in bright lights, as for low lights are you gonna disagree and say that that the xz performs better than the one in low light? Thats all I said.. xz better in good light, one better in low lights... whats better for you is your call but for me personally i prefer the option of shooting pics in low light... how is that a dig at the xz???
This is not me backing down cause I still say the same, sony makes amazing stuff and should have used a better screen... the audio quality is bs both the speaker as well as the ear piece...
Jeezz, seriously though the screen on the XZ is pure sh*t. Its almost painful to look at.
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lmao "blind following the blind" that coming from sm1 who takes others opinions and decides not to watch the video and form their own opinion... talk about being a hypocrite
2. Point is i didnt need to... I showed what was better about it.
3. Yup it does
4. When a videos already pushing 20 mins u want me to say stuff just to appease fanboys? its better it was said sue me for not singing praises
6. It is crap
7. bad display = bad hardware
Im sorry m8 I dont do 4-7min comparisons like most... I try to cover everything... It was 24 frikkin minutes for gods sakes... if theres something that i havent mentioned fair enough.. I cant spend time going into each and everything in detail for a comparison... thats what reviews are for... comparisons are what is better, what are the differences... did I show the way the ir remote on the one works? no, did I show the multiple lockscreen options that the one has in detail nope, I paid exactly the same attention to the one as i did to the xz....
Anyway I get it you've bought the phone, uve spent ur cash on it and now u want to justify it to urself... but cmon, the xz screen is really better than the one's? honest to god, you didnt open the box and for a second atleast wonder "is it juz my screen?"
As for me being biased...
I use a sony alpha 57 cam that i just purchased, I have a sony hx9v for my secondary cam, I own 2 sony playstation 3s.... do you see a pattern here? Lets take HTC.. I wasnt high on the butterfly in my comparisons and even rated the one x lower than the s3 last year in my comp... the one is the 1st htc phone that ive praised... and fyi last year everyone was singing praises for the one x... i liked it but i didnt prefer it over my s3 or note and thats exactly what i said in my vid... so this is how i genuinely feel about the device... so u still think I have it out for sony? Just like you I paid for my Xperia Z too...
Again as for the cam... I was very clear that the xz is the better cam in bright lights, as for low lights are you gonna disagree and say that that the xz performs better than the one in low light? Thats all I said.. xz better in good light, one better in low lights... whats better for you is your call but for me personally i prefer the option of shooting pics in low light... how is that a dig at the xz???
This is not me backing down cause I still say the same, sony makes amazing stuff and should have used a better screen... the audio quality is bs both the speaker as well as the ear piece...
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No, because before buying my phone I compared the difference options available and I liked the way the sony xperia screen looks.
I am not a fanboy, XD this is my first sony phone. I am NOT saying that the XZ has a better screen than the HTC one it's true. But to say that the screen is **** just because you don't like it, it's to say the least biased. And you can't deny the fact that you don't like the xz and you tried to force that view on the comparison. So it was indeed a biased review as pretty much all the reviews that compare does two phones.
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No, because before buying my phone I compared the difference options available and I liked the way the sony xperia screen looks.
I am not a fanboy, XD this is my first sony phone. I am NOT saying that the XZ has a better screen than the HTC one it's true. But to say that the screen is **** just because you don't like it, it's to say the least biased. And you can't deny the fact that you don't like the xz and you tried to force that view on the comparison. So it was indeed a biased review as pretty much all the reviews that compare does two phones.
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Its not a mid level device, its a flagship, a phone that we pay top dollar for, is it unfair to expect it to have the best of everything? You dont think the viewing angles are bad? you could say who cares about viewing angles but for what we pay, when others can give it (hell if oppo can give it for $499) why not Sony?
What you say is partly right but uve got it the other way around.... its not that I dont like the xz and I talk about the speakers and viewing angles because i font like but its because of the viewing angles and speakers that I feel the xz is not as good as it should have been...
I dont wanna argue, am just trying to calm you down enough so that I can get feedback on my video... once the initial "damn he called my phone bad... that jackass!!!" anger dies down, maybe I can get some feedback on what I can do to improve...
honestly I have 26k subs on youtube and my videos hit the 10k mark in a month no matter what.. posting it on xda gets me a few hundred views max... the reason I do so is because I can get some actual feedback here... on youtube u have the words limit on comments and we couldnt have had this kinda conversation there.. ud probably have said "u are biased the xz rocks" and id have ignored it cuz theres no way i could reply to that with the utube word limit.
If anyone honestly feels I have been biased somewhere please let me know and I am willing to change it... just go to my channel and watch any video from a month back a couple of months back ull notice the difference, I am constantly trying to learn and improve.
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Its not a mid level device, its a flagship, a phone that we pay top dollar for, is it unfair to expect it to have the best of everything? You dont think the viewing angles are bad? you could say who cares about viewing angles but for what we pay, when others can give it (hell if oppo can give it for $499) why not Sony?
What you say is partly right but uve got it the other way around.... its not that I dont like the xz and I talk about the speakers and viewing angles because i font like but its because of the viewing angles and speakers that I feel the xz is not as good as it should have been...
I dont wanna argue, am just trying to calm you down enough so that I can get feedback on my video... once the initial "damn he called my phone bad... that jackass!!!" anger dies down, maybe I can get some feedback on what I can do to improve...
honestly I have 26k subs on youtube and my videos hit the 10k mark in a month no matter what.. posting it on xda gets me a few hundred views max... the reason I do so is because I can get some actual feedback here... on youtube u have the words limit on comments and we couldnt have had this kinda conversation there.. ud probably have said "u are biased the xz rocks" and id have ignored it cuz theres no way i could reply to that with the utube word limit.
If anyone honestly feels I have been biased somewhere please let me know and I am willing to change it... just go to my channel and watch any video from a month back a couple of months back ull notice the difference, I am constantly trying to learn and improve.
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I absolutely agree with you. I certainly would have considered the XZ if it wasnt for the washed out screen, the speakers isnt that much of a deal breaker for me cause i use headphones most of the times. The XZ has a beautiful design, i absolutely LOVE the power button, it looks so slick. Waterproof and dust proof is a plus but nothig i really care about. the snapdragon S4 pro is plenty even if it isnt the best anymore, it is still one of the best and very capable SoC. But for a flagship device, and considering every phone is coming out with a 1080p display, the one on the Z is really a let down. also the placement of the volume rocker doesnt make any sense ( the speaker too quite frankly). Reason why i complain so much about the screen is cause thats where everything happens, thats what you look at. Its unacceptable to me to buy a phone for more than 500$ with a ****ty screen.
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I absolutely agree with you. I certainly would have considered the XZ if it wasnt for the washed out screen, the speakers isnt that much of a deal breaker for me cause i use headphones most of the times. The XZ has a beautiful design, i absolutely LOVE the power button, it looks so slick. Waterproof and dust proof is a plus but nothig i really care about. the snapdragon S4 pro is plenty even if it isnt the best anymore, it is still one of the best and very capable SoC. But for a flagship device, and considering every phone is coming out with a 1080p display, the one on the Z is really a let down. also the placement of the volume rocker doesnt make any sense ( the speaker too quite frankly). Reason why i complain so much about the screen is cause thats where everything happens, thats what you look at. Its unacceptable to me to buy a phone for more than 500$ with a ****ty screen.
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Its not a mid level device, its a flagship, a phone that we pay top dollar for, is it unfair to expect it to have the best of everything? You dont think the viewing angles are bad? you could say who cares about viewing angles but for what we pay, when others can give it (hell if oppo can give it for $499) why not Sony?
What you say is partly right but uve got it the other way around.... its not that I dont like the xz and I talk about the speakers and viewing angles because i font like but its because of the viewing angles and speakers that I feel the xz is not as good as it should have been...
I dont wanna argue, am just trying to calm you down enough so that I can get feedback on my video... once the initial "damn he called my phone bad... that jackass!!!" anger dies down, maybe I can get some feedback on what I can do to improve...
honestly I have 26k subs on youtube and my videos hit the 10k mark in a month no matter what.. posting it on xda gets me a few hundred views max... the reason I do so is because I can get some actual feedback here... on youtube u have the words limit on comments and we couldnt have had this kinda conversation there.. ud probably have said "u are biased the xz rocks" and id have ignored it cuz theres no way i could reply to that with the utube word limit.
If anyone honestly feels I have been biased somewhere please let me know and I am willing to change it... just go to my channel and watch any video from a month back a couple of months back ull notice the difference, I am constantly trying to learn and improve.
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About the screen, I don't feel that washed out colours people talk about really, you have you realise the ui is grey not black and that might cause the impression that the phone doesn't do good blacks but it does quite good if you look at a video or picture. That it's not as "vibrant/oversaturated" as an amoled screen ofc, but some people like it that way.
I'm trying to give you feedback, I couldn't care less if you like or don't like this device. But what I don't like is biased opinions and false statements in a comparison. Obviously you can have your own opinion and you might not like it but you should try to be impartial when comparing/reviewing units. All this is IMHO and with the aim to help you.
Again, I don't think the XZ is a better phone than the HTC one or the S4, they are newer phones with better processor and better screen. But XZ was the first flagship to be released, so the more time you have to release a device the more time you have to improve it.
For me, I picked the XZ because It's the phone that ticked all the boxes for me. Quad core, 2gb RAM, full hd screen, sd card slot. That's pretty much all I cared about and it does it well in all of them. Maybe on screen battery time is not the best but it's still better than my lg o2x.
At the end of the day if I didn't like the phone I could just return it and get the HTC one or the S4. ^^. But I do like it and I'm sure there is a lot of people that does too.
Edit: let me show you what I mean about the ui. This is a screenshoot of a black image with the soft keys, can you see how the soft key are grey? That can give the impression that the screen is washed out because of the soft keys
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Well, I dont know about you, but my friends who saw my phone, were all amazed about the quality of the XZ screen and all came running to the shops to get it. Note that they all come from iPhones, S3s and note2s..
Point to note that i do have my screen optimised with the white balance mod, black nav bars and a BE2 wallpaper.. Honestly, screen looks amazing.
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About the screen, I don't feel that washed out colours people talk about really, you have you realise the ui is grey not black and that might cause the impression that the phone doesn't do good blacks but it does quite good if you look at a video or picture. That it's not as "vibrant/oversaturated" as an amoled screen ofc, but some people like it that way.
I'm trying to give you feedback, I couldn't care less if you like or don't like this device. But what I don't like is biased opinions and false statements in a comparison. Obviously you can have your own opinion and you might not like it but you should try to be impartial when comparing/reviewing units. All this is IMHO and with the aim to help you.
Again, I don't think the XZ is a better phone than the HTC one or the S4, they are newer phones with better processor and better screen. But XZ was the first flagship to be released, so the more time you have to release a device the more time you have to improve it.
For me, I picked the XZ because It's the phone that ticked all the boxes for me. Quad core, 2gb RAM, full hd screen, sd card slot. That's pretty much all I cared about and it does it well in all of them. Maybe on screen battery time is not the best but it's still better than my lg o2x.
At the end of the day if I didn't like the phone I could just return it and get the HTC one or the S4. ^^. But I do like it and I'm sure there is a lot of people that does too.
Edit: let me show you what I mean about the ui. This is a screenshoot of a black image with the soft keys, can you see how the soft key are grey? That can give the impression that the screen is washed out because of the soft keys
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Thanks for the explanation... I get the UI thats the 1st thing I notices and pointed out once I got it.. the app drawer has a greyish back that makes things look worse as in the washed out feeling more than it should but def, compared to superlcd 3 or even the oppo find 5's screen it does look washed out, my honest opinion and after doing my share of research and confirming it with a few others who own the device I decided to go with it...
you could return the phone if you want... lol, how I wish that was an option where I am from.. we have no returns here, so kinda stuck with what we buy, even RMAs are damn hard... galaxy camera (yes I was stupid enough to buy one) shipped with a dead pixel, took them 2 months & about 8 mails to samsung to replace
I'm curious as to why people here are saying the XZ's screen is washed out. I used a HTC One X before this and it pretty much had (still has imo) the best screen you can find anywhere, and I really think the XZ comes pretty darn close because of the high res. Colours are vibrant and accurate without being oversaturated. Although viewing angles aren't as good as the HOX's, it isn't so bad to the extent that colours are completely washed out or something. Besides, I have yet to find a use case where I need to view anything from a >35 degree angle anyway.
Please keep things on-topic here guys and resist the urge to make your argument personal.
It's fine to debate the phones and the review but I don't want to see personal attacks or bad language being used... This will be your only warning.
Thanks
Sony, why?
10K Temperature (12K hi-tech mail)
Bad gamut accuracy
http://www.phonearena.com/showimage.php?m=Benchmarks.Values&id=49978&v=default
https://hi-tech.imgsmail.ru/hitech_...84x-/i/ff/f5/a13733c67e5523f054fff244ac95.jpg
Bad Delta E
Delta E grayscale 8.96
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z3
https://hi-tech.imgsmail.ru/hitech_...84x-/i/db/99/32847e83963c279457ed417f5ee5.jpg
need (alpha)
https://hi-tech.imgsmail.ru/hitech_...84x-/i/19/3c/548c594110e662ebf699ab0e5742.jpg
Delta E rgbcmy 6.03 (7,91 hi-tech mail)
Why? For what?
Have you tried turning off x-reality and tweaking white balance?
degraaff said:
Have you tried turning off x-reality and tweaking white balance?
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I want to use a normal smartphone out of the box
xreality does not help
R=255, G=190, B=0
improves the situation but not completely
http://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/sony_xperia_z3_compact.html
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R=255, G=190, B=0
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Those are extreme adjustments, red all the way up and green at 190.
Why? To increase the brightness without increasing the power consumption
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Jiyeon90 said:
Why? To increase the brightness without increasing the power consumption
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AFAIK, Sony's white balance option makes the display look darker the heavier you adjust it, at least that's how it is for my Xperia Z2 Tablet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/best-screen-reviewers-best-screen-t2911814
Various reviews have indicated that the official word from Sony is that the 10k is intentional because that tested best with focus groups (display was assessed as "brighter" and "more vivid"). Given the way Triluminos displays work (the backlight is blue, not white), the brightness increase at high color temps may be more than just perceptual.
Keep in mind that the average smartphone consumer couldn't explain color temperature if their life depended on it. They look at the device next to others at a brick-and-mortar wireless carrier store or kiosk and the "brightest" one (regardless of how inaccurate) will usually be selected as having the "best" display. At least Sony provides a way to get back to something a little more sane (without having to root the phone).
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Various reviews have indicated that the official word from Sony is that the 10k is intentional because that tested best with focus groups (display was assessed as "brighter" and "more vivid"). Given the way Triluminos displays work (the backlight is blue, not white), the brightness increase at high color temps may be more than just perceptual.
Keep in mind that the average smartphone consumer couldn't explain color temperature if their life depended on it. They look at the device next to others at a brick-and-mortar wireless carrier store or kiosk and the "brightest" one (regardless of how inaccurate) will usually be selected as having the "best" display. At least Sony provides a way to get back to something a little more sane (without having to root the phone).
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The vast majority of people don't like oversaturation and distortion. I don't know what crazy focus groups have Sony.
Apple, Samsung, HTC, LG etc every year aspire to natural and correct color. And I agree with them. Sony need to dismiss his crazy focus group.
Although, I think there was no focus groups, they just wanted to increase the brightness of the screen and at the same time to probe the market, how color reproduction is important to people
When you raise all value too high, brightness will be decrease. I've never change Blue, a bit Green, mainly Red.
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Why? To increase the brightness without increasing the power consumption
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It would be better if they offered various presets in the settings. This one could be called "Energy efficient superbright" (or some other snazzy marketing name), with the ability to also select a preset called "accurate".
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The vast majority of people don't like oversaturation and distortion.
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Got a study to back that up? In a Leichtman Research Group study a few years ago, 18% of HDTV owners couldn't tell the difference between SD and HD. So I find it hard to believe that more than 50% of smartphone owners have any clue about color accuracy.
Case in point, walk into any big box consumer electronics store and look at the TVs on display. Nearly all of them have the brightness and saturation cranked up ridiculously high. Why? Because it sells TVs. At a glance, everything seems much more "vivid" than the shopper's current TV and that creates incentive to buy.
Apple, Samsung, HTC, LG etc every year aspire to natural and correct color.
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Yes, and that's admirable. I'm not defending Sony's approach. You asked "why?" and I provided the answer. Sony is struggling in the worldwide smartphone market compared to the OEMs you listed, so you have to expect them to try some "different" approaches. Yes, it would be nice if they provided a settings preset to get back to a 6500K calibration. Perhaps we need a thread where people with calibration hardware can post their properly calibrated settings?
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Case in point, walk into any big box consumer electronics store and look at the TVs on display. Nearly all of them have the brightness and saturation cranked up ridiculously high. Why? Because it sells TVs. At a glance, everything seems much more "vivid" than the shopper's current TV and that creates incentive to buy.
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Same with smartphone cameras, often the colors seem to be way off because it looks more vivid and that's what people want.
See Z3C vs S5 here for example.
I spent a lot of money for a crap diaplay....reds never look red..they always look pink...waahedout colours...baaaaad camera pics..they are lifeless...i v sold this crap phone with a loss of 300k...pathetic...i was a die hard fan of sony since sonyericsson t610...i have used just sony phone.never ever used any other brand coz of sony,s camera and outstanding colour caliberation,display and awesome bravia engine....now after a loss of 300k..i am very much disaappointed...why 10K colour temperature...i cant understand this at all...but still i love xperia brandand hoping that z4 compact will b a good one
Shrug. Phone is fine for me, but to each their own I guess.
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Looks good to me with green at 64-65
ffaaiissaall said:
I spent a lot of money for a crap diaplay....reds never look red..they always look pink...waahedout colours...baaaaad camera pics..they are lifeless...i v sold this crap phone with a loss of 300k...pathetic...i was a die hard fan of sony since sonyericsson t610...i have used just sony phone.never ever used any other brand coz of sony,s camera and outstanding colour caliberation,display and awesome bravia engine....now after a loss of 300k..i am very much disaappointed...why 10K colour temperature...i cant understand this at all...but still i love xperia brandand hoping that z4 compact will b a good one
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Is it that bad because I'am really interested in buying this phone. Please give me more details.
It would be bad if you had to root to change white balance, however Sony have thoughtfully provided a way to do it via settings that's fine.
There are other threads with suggested settings, and I've found a moderate change of R 40 G 72 to be perfectly satisfactory.
This is a non issue thread.
techguyone said:
It would be bad if you had to root to change white balance, however Sony have thoughtfully provided a way to do it via settings that's fine.
There are other threads with suggested settings, and I've found a moderate change of R 40 G 72 to be perfectly satisfactory.
This is a non issue thread.
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Except as has been established for a long time now, this option *doesn't* allow you to change the white balance, regardless of what Sony decided to call it for marketing reasons. It just overlays an RGB color filter over your screen - which is why it darkens the screen when you set sliders to max. Setting white point shouldn't have this effect at all. It doesn't even express color temperature options properly. Color accuracy isn't improved.
What you're seeing is only a lazy approximation of white balance adjustment, so yes this is very much a live issue.
As I said, my moderate change of +40 R & + 72 G *fixed* any issues I had, can't say I've noticed my screen going darker. Clearly if you're going to slam all the sliders over to MAX then it'll suffer. The point I'm making is that if you can adjust the white balance effectively for a small adjustment, Sony didn't get it that wrong, and even if they did, they provided a method to adjust it back to *correctiveness* in any case.
Now.
If the colour was obviously bad out of the box, and there was no way at all to correct it using any method, or you needed to root to fix it, then that WOULD have been an issue and I'd have been butt hurt too, however as this isn't the case I'm not, and it's a non issue.
I hadn't been paying a whole lot of attention since upgrading the other day but then I laid the phone next to my wife's S5 and maybe I'm imagining things but the screen on the Moto X feels a lot less warm than it did a week ago when compared to the much cooler toned Galaxy S5. Am I wrong here?
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I hadn't been paying a whole lot of attention since upgrading the other day but then I laid the phone next to my wife's S5 and maybe I'm imagining things but the screen on the Moto X feels a lot less warm than it did a week ago when compared to the much cooler toned Galaxy S5. Am I wrong here?
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I just saw a display unit at a verizon store and my thoughts were exactly the same as yours !?!? I saw the same display units at the same verizon store a month or so ago with kitkat and the super saturated screen was the first thought that came to my mind - this was the first time I checked it out and that was a deal breaker for me.
But this second visit has gotten me thinking, so much so that I googled it up and came across your post. Have you had a chance to compare/analyze it more ? I had to open the play store on the moto x AND Htc One to reconfirm the saturation ! But definitely looked less saturated as compared to the Nexus 6 I recently saw.
Anybody else - any feedback ?
Sure has. The colors seem a lot more contrasty and punchy! Whites are also slightly better. It closely matches the nexus 6 screen now, looks wonderful!
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Sure has. The colors seem a lot more contrasty and punchy! Whites are also slightly better. It closely matches the nexus 6 screen now, looks wonderful!
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I was actually suggesting the opposite - the Nexus 6 is super saturated ~ poor screen calibration. The Moto X was similar but as @WilliamRBR also suggested it seems the screen calibration may have been tweaked in the lollipop update thus resulting in less of the super saturated unreal colors and more closer to the Note 4 calibration ~ which is quiet good.
Screen calibration is better on lollipop, a lot less saturated.
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Screen calibration is better on lollipop, a lot less saturated.
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Fantastic ! So its just not me then Hopefully more users can chime in
It's so good I'm just loving it
Glad to hear this!
I didn't notice any difference.
Serious? It's more than noticeable! Just open the play store and look at the red, green etc... No more flashy.
For me it's still oversaturated and incorrectly calibrated, especially when comparing to Nexus 5.
I have owned this device for about two months now. To be honest, I did notice that, a few days before the Lollipop update (wich happened last week to me), the colors seemed more satured than the usual. I concluded (wrongly?) it had to do with the ageing of the screen.
But even after the update I feel the colors are still as satured as they were in KK (wich I find pretty nice).
Or maybe my eyes are not so great anymore.
Quiet a mixed bag here, maybe M8 is the way to go given the comparable cameras but with extra battery and nicer screen. Thank you all for sharing your inputs here though.
I actually really like the "oversaturated" colors, and would prefer it to at least be an option to set the saturation/calibration level. The main reason I love OLED so much is because of this, and I hope they wouldn't force a change like that in the update. Something like the Samsung calibration menu would be nice.
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I actually really like the "oversaturated" colors, and would prefer it to at least be an option to set the saturation/calibration level. The main reason I love OLED so much is because of this, and I hope they wouldn't force a change like that in the update. Something like the Samsung calibration menu would be nice.
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oh yeah if motorola had display options like samsung provides - essentially different levels of saturation - THAT WOULD BE AWESOME !!! Everyone of us can have their desired levels of oomph and punch or the lack of
It looks exactly the same, but is a beautiful screen regardless.
Mine is too warm... That is the only issue that I have with it and have to use calibration app to make it cooler
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Which app?
Does the camera autofocus correctly during video capture in the Lollipop?
My Moto X 2 has Kitkat and doesn't autofocus during video captures. It acts same like fixed focus came of Moto E, though autofocus works perfectly fine during photo capture. I have tried lot of third party camera apps, cleared cache as suggested by moto care but still no solution
Now I am badly missing my old and gold Atrix 2 badly, thankfully that is still at home but no more mine.