[Q] Porting Sense - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey all,
I'm considering trying to go hard in the paint and make a port of sense from the HTC Droid DNA (Butterfly) to the Nexus 4. However, I'm not entirely sure it's possible. I believe the chipset is a match I'm just concerned with a few other hurdles.
I'm not very experienced in the world of Android development, so I ask those of you with much more knowledge. Aside from the sheer amount of work that would need to be done, is this even a reachable goal?

I mean, anything is possible. Ive seen older versions of sense be ported to the Nexus S, and there was a build of sense 4 on the Galaxy Nexus that never really got past just booting. It surely wouldnt be an easy task, or somebody would have done it by now. Good Luck dude.

I have a copy of a 4.2.2 Sense 5 leak that needs heavy development. I'm not concerned with the work needed, I just don't want to go through the trouble only to find that I'm limited by hardware. Which again, I don't believe will be a problem since they both run the same processor and chipset.

Reachable goal? Probably. Worth it? Probably not. Will anyone do it? Probably, but they'll stop halfway.

I would be interested, on my former Desire HD I liked to switch between aosp and sense, to everytime get the feeling I got a new phone when I changed roms
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Anything is possible! Yes there are people who hates Sense but having different choices are always nice.
I think the hardest part is to resize all elements from your copy of Sense 5 rom because screen resolution between n4 and Droid DNA is different. I remembered back in the days when ppl were trying to port Sense 3.5 (qHD) to WVGA screen HTC Phone (Desire HD/Desire Z etc), they had lot of problems...
Nonetheless, good luck! (Well I should've be more positive....)

ohcanada said:
Anything is possible! Yes there are people who hates Sense but having different choices are always nice.
I think the hardest part is to resize all elements from your copy of Sense 5 rom because screen resolution between n4 and Droid DNA is different. I remembered back in the days when ppl were trying to port Sense 3.5 (qHD) to WVGA screen HTC Phone (Desire HD/Desire Z etc), they had lot of problems...
Nonetheless, good luck! (Well I should've be more positive....)
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That and the Radio, Camera, and audio. The Radio will most likely be broken if you port from the HTC DNA due to the CDMA network, while the 4G side might work. The Camera will almost definitely be broken due to HTC's tweaks to it, as well as their Image Sense Chip in the phone. The Audio will most likely be broken due to there being TWO amplifiers in the HTC phone, and some hardware differences in these chipsets due to Beats Audio.
I will say however, that if you managed to get this working, I would definitely run it.
Best of luck,
Connor Baker

Connor Baker said:
That and the Radio, Camera, and audio. The Radio will most likely be broken if you port from the HTC DNA due to the CDMA network, while the 4G side might work. The Camera will almost definitely be broken due to HTC's tweaks to it, as well as their Image Sense Chip in the phone. The Audio will most likely be broken due to there being TWO amplifiers in the HTC phone, and some hardware differences in these chipsets due to Beats Audio.
I will say however, that if you managed to get this working, I would definitely run it.
Best of luck,
Connor Baker
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I expected these, as well as many resize issues to arise. I've already begun work on this, and it's coming along rather nicely to my surprise. Thanks for the input, everyone.

If you did port I would definitely use it
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The reason most ports stop half way is that Sense needs HTC drivers, libs and framework. Without them things like data, camera and others will never work. Many of the greatest Devs here have tried getting it working but they can only get soo far.

zelendel said:
The reason most ports stop half way is that Sense needs HTC drivers, libs and framework. Without them things like data, camera and others will never work. Many of the greatest Devs here have tried getting it working but they can only get soo far.
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This was an issue back when the MyTouch 4g was first getting ICS. There were camera drivers that had to be rewritten as well for that device. I'm fully aware of some driver rewrites that need to happen. I promise nothing other than to be persistent and determined.

I used to be a diehard HTC guy, made the jump to the nexus and love it but I miss having the option of Sense. I hope you have a decent amount of success in this endeavor.

Chomanator said:
This was an issue back when the MyTouch 4g was first getting ICS. There were camera drivers that had to be rewritten as well for that device. I'm fully aware of some driver rewrites that need to happen. I promise nothing other than to be persistent and determined.
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wow! I wish you the best! :good::good::good:

Choice is always good.
-Sent from Marino's Maxx-

I have to say Sense 5 is beautiful, and I hated just about every other version of it. If you get it working decently I would definitely run it.
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Well, I hate to resurrect a semi-dead thread but just to give you guys an update I have gotten Sense to boot. As expected nothing works exactly right but perhaps if my ambition keeps up, we'll have a Sense ROM to play with in the next few weeks. :good:

Chomanator said:
Well, I hate to resurrect a semi-dead thread but just to give you guys an update I have gotten Sense to boot. As expected nothing works exactly right but perhaps if my ambition keeps up, we'll have a Sense ROM to play with in the next few weeks. :good:
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Getting it to boot is a big deal though, but there's plenty to go.
I suggest a thread soon so people can chime in and help.
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Glad to hear that your project is going ok! By the way I just came across this thread and these ppl are doing the same thing right now so if you are interested you can send them a PM!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2285637

Honestly if you get it booting I'd use it just because I can
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I do have the ROM booting and mobile data mostly working. I'm having some computer issues currently so work has ground to a halt.
Also the prospect of being able to snag a copy of MIUI v5 with a 4.2 base within the next week may distract me.
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NEXUS S System Dump Leak!

Here is it the Nexus S system dump leak, would be awesome to have a port to HD2 of gingerbread 2.3 as soon as possible.
http://www.multiupload.com/EXBB1089TP
The nexus s probably won't be able to be ported to the hd2. It has completely different hardware and processor than the hd2. We can port nexus one and desire ports because they have similar hardware.
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zarathustrax said:
The nexus s probably won't be able to be ported to the hd2. It has completely different hardware and processor than the hd2. We can port nexus one and desire ports because they have similar hardware.
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incorrect my friend.
The Nexus S is AOSP and since source is released we will easily get a port, it's just a matter of re-writing drivers.
The Nexus S is just vanilla Gingerbread.
How did we get a Desire HD port, it's different from the HD2, Desire, or Nexus.
How about the MT4G ports? It runs an MSM and not a QSD. The only real difference is that the Nexus S runs on a hummingbird.
We're getting a freaking WP7 port and you're trying to tell me we won't get an AOSP 2.3 port?
Why do you guys argue with obvious newbs? Looking forward to a real port the sdk was garbage. Just sucks our phones are unable to display full 32 bit
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you can port any android build to this baby if devs put there mind to it
ax0r said:
Why do you guys argue with obvious newbs?
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good point. I had a free 10 second period so figured what the hell
zarathustrax said:
The nexus s probably won't be able to be ported to the hd2. It has completely different hardware and processor than the hd2. We can port nexus one and desire ports because they have similar hardware.
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The hardware software interface is managed by the kernel, which includes all of the drivers needed for our hardware. We already have a working kernel, the gingerbread build sits on top of the kernel. What hardware the galaxy S is not relevant. This will easily be ported to the HD2.
The only thing I want from gingerbread is that sick CRT-style wake and sleep animation. I'd even be happy with just that cooked onto a froyo build.
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Why do you guys argue with obvious newbs? Looking forward to a real port the sdk was garbage. Just sucks our phones are unable to display full 32 bit
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That's pretty ignorant to call me an obvious newb. You're right, I may have made an incorrect statement, but I think they still will probably wait for the nexus one to be updated with gingerbread, as it will be much simpler to port to our hd2s, and the n1 should be updated any day now.
I've been using pocket PC's and smartphones for almost 10 years. I've been using this site since 2006.... been flashing my phone's since early 2007. Just because I make a mistake does not make me a noob. And who is arguing? I made a statement. Thank you for correcting me, orangekid, even though you seemed to agree its a waste of time to correct a "obvious newb" like me. This site used to be a great, friendly site...
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That's pretty ignorant to call me an obvious newb. You're right, I may have made an incorrect statement, but I think they still will probably wait for the nexus one to be updated with gingerbread, as it will be much simpler to port to our hd2s, and the n1 should be updated any day now.
I've been using pocket PC's and smartphones for almost 10 years. I've been using this site since 2006.... been flashing my phone's since early 2007. Just because I make a mistake does not make me a noob. And who is arguing? I made a statement. Thank you for correcting me, orangekid, even though you seemed to agree its a waste of time to correct a "obvious newb" like me. This site used to be a great, friendly site...
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Agree, everyone makes mistakes every now and then, that's no biggie.

[Q] Slow development! Users switching to better booties.

Its sad.
Development section is super slow. Not much traffic. user base is getting smaller and smaller.
Are you going to ditch your myTouch 4g soon?
If u don't like it trade it. Most here enjoy it and I see work on it
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ROM development has definitely slowed. The latest example is with Sense 3.5. I can list 6 models of HTC phones that already have a working ROM, yet I bet the MT4G won't get one for several months, if ever. Compare the MT4G dev section to the DHD dev section. Almost identical phones, yet there is no comparison in the quality and number of ROMs between the two phones. I hate to complain, since ROMs are generally free and done in developer's spare time, but I do wish the MT4G was more like other more popular phones when it comes to ROM development.
I recently picked up a mytouch 4g and while it does seem like development isn't moving at a real fast pace, it looks like there's still plenty of a selection of roms to choose from.
Btw, LOVING my mt4g so far! Much better than my vibrant, g2, sgs4g or hd2. It's just an all around great phone!
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ROM development has definitely slowed. The latest example is with Sense 3.5. I can list 6 models of HTC phones that already have a working ROM, yet I bet the MT4G won't get one for several months, if ever. Compare the MT4G dev section to the DHD dev section. Almost identical phones, yet there is no comparison in the quality and number of ROMs between the two phones. I hate to complain, since ROMs are generally free and done in developer's spare time, but I do wish the MT4G was more like other more popular phones when it comes to ROM development.
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The MT4G has a 3.5 Sense ROM, Raffyv posted it on Rootzwiki. But it's true about the development, this phone just doesn't have that fan base as other Htc phones, compare the MT4GS development to the Sensation, it's practically night and day over there. MT4GS is so far behind the Sensation and Evo3D that's it's not even funny. I've recently sold my MT4G, and will most likely get another Android phone when Quads are made, I've been looking at WP7 devices lately. Tbh WP7 is rather quick on the aging hardware it's used on, but it's rather simplistic compared to Android, offering no visible widgets, but instead a tile UI.
Ace42 said:
The MT4G has a 3.5 Sense ROM, Raffyv posted it on Rootzwiki.
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I know, and call me cynical, but I don't take anything too seriously until it's posted on XDA.
TeeJay3800 said:
I know, and call me cynical, but I don't take anything too seriously until it's posted on XDA.
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You won't find it here, might be some time like you said-till unity team ports Sense 3.5. Evil has DS and VU, but Gazaian said he was working on it currently
It's actually a damn good rom.. does need alil work tho..bt and WiFi don't work at present, but other than that, sense 3.5 just takes the cake
You have to see a life span for device is 6months and MT4G came out on Q4 of 2010 and is almost close to years old to general public and for us who gets it 3-6months before its even older. Now it does not mean its abandoned but the user base for MT4G was never big as its not HD2(Leo). Far as AOSP is there some of us can careless about Sense based even the hybrids, as CM7 all th way.
Far as kernel and other hack goes its usually not device specific as its usually OS revision implementation which are minor tweaks for the version. On top of that we have major app base that is rich if one know how to search and find what the looking for via XDA or other forums and sites. I am not worried remotely about dev for our device as ill stick to it even if all stops until quad core based superphones are in market or forced to go CDMA based carrier due to recent at&tmobile merge fiasco.
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AggNA said:
You have to see a life span for device is 6months and MT4G came out on Q4 of 2010 and is almost close to years old to general public and for us who gets it 3-6months before its even older.
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I'm one of those people who ends up getting the phone 3-6months after, sometimes development is more secured or the quality is better once the device has been in the open. If you get it right away it's not gonna offer a wide range of hacks and such.
Ace42 said:
I'm one of those people who ends up getting the phone 3-6months after, sometimes development is more secured or the quality is better once the device has been in the open. If you get it right away it's not gonna offer a wide range of hacks and such.
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True as it matures you have more option but at the cost of bragging right. I paid $750 USD for HD2-US (Leo1024) not the HD2-EU (Leo512) and got it like 4-5months before it came in USA. I was one of the only few folks in USA who had 4.3" screen and this was 9-10months before the Evo came out on Sprint. Same goes for MT4G got it like 2months before it was out on TMoUS at cost of $590. Keep in mind then it was the fastest single core device as Qualcomm 2GS proc with highest ram offering 768mb. This was before US-AT&T Inspire and after DHD-EU model as I refuse to go with inferior SamSUX device such as Nexsus S or another BS-SGS. The development for hack are usually OS dependent as its not device specific. But most of the tweaks are usually device specific due to the thread subsection its posted thus it reflects more based on that, I am sure you know what I am saying as I am already ready to go home.
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Well I don't mind the smaller dev base here ... I have a handful of different devices, and there seems to be less drama here with the glacier! More development means more ppl arguing over who is better or you took this from me, blah blah blah...
Also, just cause its not posted on xda doesn't mean its not legit... Raft was bringing us ports when no one else wad really doing things for this phone! Just happens that he was ban from here for reasons I don't know...
Thanks for the link for Sense 3.5. I agree with every one of you. Also, I head that devs were able to access the primary bootloader like in HD2 completely gaining control of the hardware. Which would be cool. Think Wp7 on SGSII.
Although Microsoft would sue the heck out of it, so its a NOGO.
wait I FORGOT MEEGOOOOOOO on SGSII that would be EPIC!!
I don't really care how many roms there are or how often they get updated, as long as they're good. The quality of the roms seems top-notch for the MyTouch 4G.
I'm a little confused about what the problem is. Coming from an hd2, that forum is great and very alive, true. But what's the point of having four different takes on cm7? Or sense? Or sense 3.0? If that's what you mean, then I'll pass. Now if you're taking about a guy like tytung making kernels, figuring out a way to add aGPS support, etc then yeah he's great, but it took so long to do (not his fault though. That guy is a genius). Frankly, I'm happier with less selection of ROMS to choose from because overall, each mt4g rom rocks nearly every other "this is my take on cm7 I added colors" rom out there. The mt4g is 100% functional. Development has slowed because honestly, what more is there to do short of hardwiring another core into this phone? No disrespect intended for any dev.
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As some before me, I honestly prefer MT4G ROMs selection to the others.
Funny that HD2 comes up here. I was trying to find a decent fully functional ROM for HD2 and found nothing. The only fully functional Sense ROMs over there are Froyo - not a single Gingerbread Sense ROM that has hotspot/tethering or camcorder. Yes, I know, kernel source needed. But it isn't the question - look for how long we already have fully functional Sense 2.1 / 3.0, and they still don't! But there are at least 5-6, if not 10, different (half-functional) Sense 3.0 ROMs. Personally, I prefer quality over quantity.
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True as it matures you have more option but at the cost of bragging right. I paid $750 USD for HD2-US (Leo1024) not the HD2-EU (Leo512) and got it like 4-5months before it came in USA. I was one of the only few folks in USA who had 4.3" screen and this was 9-10months before the Evo came out on Sprint. Same goes for MT4G got it like 2months before it was out on TMoUS at cost of $590. Keep in mind then it was the fastest single core device as Qualcomm 2GS proc with highest ram offering 768mb. This was before US-AT&T Inspire and after DHD-EU model as I refuse to go with inferior SamSUX device such as Nexsus S or another BS-SGS. The development for hack are usually OS dependent as its not device specific. But most of the tweaks are usually device specific due to the thread subsection its posted thus it reflects more based on that, I am sure you know what I am saying as I am already ready to go home.
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Keep in mind that the other galaxy S were better than the vibrant I blame Tmobile for that failure. The original galaxy S was far superior to the USA versions. I for one of am going to samsung Galaxy 2 for tmobile when it arrives. I will miss htc but I can always try something new.
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Jack_R1 said:
As some before me, I honestly prefer MT4G ROMs selection to the others.
Funny that HD2 comes up here. I was trying to find a decent fully functional ROM for HD2 and found nothing. The only fully functional Sense ROMs over there are Froyo - not a single Gingerbread Sense ROM that has hotspot/tethering or camcorder. Yes, I know, kernel source needed. But it isn't the question - look for how long we already have fully functional Sense 2.1 / 3.0, and they still don't! But there are at least 5-6, if not 10, different (half-functional) Sense 3.0 ROMs. Personally, I prefer quality over quantity.
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Bingo. Right on the spot there.
Plus it's HTC and supported by Zinx and Kmobs. Means we'll be amongst the first to receive ICS. I'll take that.
And as well as supported by the VU team as well. We'll be in good shape for quite some time. We have the hardware to be relevant for a long time.
Screw Sense period. I run MIUI and there is an updated Rom every Friday. If you call weekly updates slow then you will never be happy.
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You won't find it here, might be some time like you said-till unity team ports Sense 3.5. Evil has DS and VU, but Gazaian said he was working on it currently
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The crazy part is z3freak got it out just moments after I figured it out. I waited too long.
On the bright side, I do have HoneySense 8 Reboot edition waiting here. I broke WiFi and I wanna fix it before I send it out. Just not sure what use level files control WiFi (its a user level problem, not a kernel one).
Reboot edition is just Sense 2.1 with even more Honey, and sexy battery life (somehow manages to last 7 hours with 100 percent, followed by about 20 - 30 hours from 99 to 0 percent, and that's on the stock kernel.) Honeysense v9 will be the return of Sense 3.0.
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Bingo. Right on the spot there.
Plus it's HTC and supported by Zinx and Kmobs. Means we'll be amongst the first to receive ICS. I'll take that.
And as well as supported by the VU team as well. We'll be in good shape for quite some time. We have the hardware to be relevant for a long time.
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I say we got about 18 months of strength before this phone dies. the problem is that this is more of a US only phone, while phones like the DHD are international.
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CBConsultation said:
Screw Sense period. I run MIUI and there is an updated Rom every Friday. If you call weekly updates slow then you will never be happy.
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This will probably be my final ROM... it's always awesome and always recieving support.

HTC Rezound thoughts?

So I see that the HTC Rezound dropped down to $50 today, and I've been looking for a cheap 4g phone that isn't the stratosphere. This "looks" like a good deal, except I know absolutely nothing about HTC phones.
The beats audio thing looks pointless to me, but does anyone have any thoughts on the rest of the phone? I am entirely clueless about this so any insight is appreciated.
Thanks
sendan said:
So I see that the HTC Rezound dropped down to $50 today, and I've been looking for a cheap 4g phone that isn't the stratosphere. This "looks" like a good deal, except I know absolutely nothing about HTC phones.
The beats audio thing looks pointless to me, but does anyone have any thoughts on the rest of the phone? I am entirely clueless about this so any insight is appreciated.
Thanks
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the rezound is a good phone. with an unlocked bootloader, 4g, hd screen and htc, its a good upgrade. plus you could even sell the earbuds and make all your money back id say go for it if you dont mind a phone on the thicker side lol
it's a nice phone, especially at that price. good specs, nice HD screen (though not amoled so not quite as vibrant) and fast data. I'd recommend it, especially with the ics upgrade coming in a few days.
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Coming from someone who really doesn't enjoy touchwiz at all, is sense enjoyable to use? It doesn't look like the Rezound has any ICS source which worries me, but maybe I'm more worried than I should be because Samsung destroyed my confidence in custom skins?
I might just have to get my AOSP fix from my Gtab, but I'm also just realizing how awesome the Fascinate is.
Thanks again!
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Coming from someone who really doesn't enjoy touchwiz at all, is sense enjoyable to use? It doesn't look like the Rezound has any ICS source which worries me, but maybe I'm more worried than I should be because Samsung destroyed my confidence in custom skins?
I might just have to get my AOSP fix from my Gtab, but I'm also just realizing how awesome the Fascinate is.
Thanks again!
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being that i came from an htc eris, i can say sense is nice but laggy...and samsungs are still about the easiest to mod. unfortnately ICS source would have to be out before i would make the switch...gingerbread blowz!
Hardware wise, it's a pretty good phone for $50. I personally wouldn't be interested in it since (sorry to be harsh) but AOSP development looks... less than promising. Wouldn't be terribly interested in sense. There will be official ICS soon, but it's with sense 3.6, not version 4, which looks like the only decent iteration of sense in ages.
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Hardware wise, it's a pretty good phone for $50. I personally wouldn't be interested in it since (sorry to be harsh) but AOSP development looks... less than promising. Wouldn't be terribly interested in sense. There will be official ICS soon, but it's with sense 3.6, not version 4, which looks like the only decent iteration of sense in ages.
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It looks like all they need is s-off (which from what I can see is very close to being completed) to gain access to the nand partition, and ICS kernel source.
So I guess I need to find out if HTC is good about releasing kernel source, if they are I might just pick this up.
4G tethering to my tablet is just so tempting...om nom nom!
if you like sense (or think you might), its probably worth getting
i wouldnt your breath for aosp though as they dont have any experienced aosp guys who own the phone or are working on it
really though being tied to that phone for 2 years might be kinda rough imo...id soldier on and wait for any news on either a better htc (hopefully a one series) or the sgs3 and try and pick up a charge on the cheap on craiglist ebay (cant be more than 125 these days) if you need lte
sendan said:
So I see that the HTC Rezound dropped down to $50 today, and I've been looking for a cheap 4g phone that isn't the stratosphere. This "looks" like a good deal, except I know absolutely nothing about HTC phones.
The beats audio thing looks pointless to me, but does anyone have any thoughts on the rest of the phone? I am entirely clueless about this so any insight is appreciated.
Thanks
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Yo dude just to update, I ordered the rezound today. Pretty pumped
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antp121 said:
Yo dude just to update, I ordered the rezound today. Pretty pumped
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It's tempting! Especially since my most non-techy friend just bought a gnexus and waved it in my face all day, lol.
sendan said:
It's tempting! Especially since my most non-techy friend just bought a gnexus and waved it in my face all day, lol.
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Get it then! It's arguably the best phone on Verizon. Dual core. Hd screen. Unlockable bootloader. One of the best cameras. You really can't go wrong. You can wait it out for a better phone (gs3 or HTC one series), but don't get your hopes up. Good luck and choose well because you only have 24 hours. Plus try to use amazon wireless. Free shipping no tax some extra free apps and I got a free car charger!
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Honestly I've been using aosp on my phone ever since I got my inc2. sense is too ugly and boring for me but it's just my opinion. Also, they aren't much faster at updating phones than Samsung. I would wait for Galaxy Note variant if there's one ever or sgs3.
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xHoLyx said:
Honestly I've been using aosp on my phone ever since I got my inc2. sense is too ugly and boring for me but it's just my opinion. Also, they aren't much faster at updating phones than Samsung. I would wait for Galaxy Note variant if there's one ever or sgs3.
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Ya you pretty much nailed the two reason I haven't bought it yet.
1.) No AOSP, and they're getting ICS delayed over and over.
2.) Tegra 3...om nom nom...it's worth the wait.
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if you like sense (or think you might), its probably worth getting
i wouldnt your breath for aosp though as they dont have any experienced aosp guys who own the phone or are working on it
really though being tied to that phone for 2 years might be kinda rough imo...id soldier on and wait for any news on either a better htc (hopefully a one series) or the sgs3 and try and pick up a charge on the cheap on craiglist ebay (cant be more than 125 these days) if you need lte
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They are working on RIL for CM9. Once that gets worked out (and they do have experienced AOSP guys working it), and ICS kernel source drops it'll be done. From what I understand, there are quite a few devs that are ready to start working on the Rezound when the s-off method is released.
For everyone bagging on sense, it really is a matter of opinion and taste. I'm running a Sense 4.0 Rom that was just released today and it is really nice. Still needs some work and polish, but it is running very well. It's funny, a lot of people complain about Sense being ugly, but it is amazing how many people want to run an AOSP Rom but also have a lot of the Sense widgets like the flip/weather clock and animations, and Friend Stream (which I personally can't stand), and the app drawer. Personally, I like both and think they both have their strengths and weaknesses.
What AOSP devs do they have and what's the status of S-OFF?
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What AOSP devs do they have and what's the status of S-OFF?
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dmeadows3,synisterwolf, and droidvicious (MIUI) are two that I know of. Plus two awesome devs that usually work on Sense Rom's (Joelz and newtoroot) I believe said that they are going to contribute to the RIL issues too.
As for S-Off, last week globatron and his team did a very short closed beta on a method for S-off and successfully attained s-off on several peoples rezounds. We are just waiting for them to get it ready for prime-time and then we're golden.
I can't wait for CM9 and Miui v4 on this phone to be honest.
Nice, hopefully things speed up from this point and they can get some good AOSP development. Without solid AOSP rom support, it'll be hard for me to upgrade.
I suppose I just thought it was funny how a bunch of rezound people were talking about how much greater the rezound is than the nexus, "wait until we have CM9, this thing will spank the nexus!". This was like 5 months ago when the phones were coming out (and still no AOSP), but I still see comments like that. I don't really care since I don't have either device, just thought it was mildly amusing. Not saying AOSP roms won't happen, but most of the people you mentioned port sense roms, which as I understand, is a different animal then building from source.
Hopefully they can get the RIL figured out.

Can anyone expect any HTC Sense based ROMS available for Nexus 4 sooner or later?

tiitle is self explanatory, just curious coming from a HTC wether (because im hell bent on buying nexus 4 due to spec for the price plus google update support) we will see any HTC Sense UI based roms?
Short answer: No. Sense is an HTC skin job, this is an LG.
Second: Why the hell would you do that?
Highly doubt it. People usually get nexus devices for the pure stock Android experience and having skins like HTC sense just ruins it. That's why we didn't see any FULL port for Galaxy nexus. Just unfinished ports that nobody used as daily driver
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel
It's possible, I remember there being a project to try and get sense on the GNex, but it would probably take a long time since there aren't many people who want it so the number of developers and testers would be small.
Here's a video of a pre beta that came out - video
No. Its horrible and worse. You will like stock.
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if you really want htc skin then get the htc one x+
After all the time I spent to make my s3 work and look like aosp on the nexus, including the on screen button with the hardware ones disabled, now that I've sold it for the nexus, it seems just mental to apply sense or whatever else interface ...to me at least
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People have been trying for a long time now to port Sense to various phones (Sense4All etc). Though there has been progress, it can't even be considered beta yet. So if getting Sense is a concern to you, don't buy the N4. Safe to say, its not gonna happen.
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if you really want htc skin then get the htc one x+
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This. One X is a much better looking phone anyway. And it may not be quite as powerful, but it's easily in the same league.
I really hope so. While stock Android is nice, it would be great to have options. Sense 4 would freaking fly on this phone.
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Antebios said:
Short answer: No. Sense is an HTC skin job, this is an LG.
Second: Why the hell would you do that?
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What Antebios said. Don't even dream of it happening because it won't.
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Lootes said:
What Antebios said. Don't even dream of it happening because it won't.
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There's no reason why it couldn't, if there was a few developers that really really wanted to do it, it's possible. It's just extremely unlikely.
Would love to see a port of the Sense 4+ keyboard though. IMHO, it's better than stock (even stock 4.2).
I think Sense5 would be fun to play with. Sure most Google fan-boys don't like it, but it's still nice; just needs refinement (specifically for battery use).
i would definitely flash a sense rom on the nexus... plain AOSP looks a bit dud after a while.
If you like HTC crap (I own an HTC, and personally hate them for their policies, but that's another story..) so much, go for the OX+, which is fine.
There is a lot of personal opinion based guestimation here. I thought google flagships released all the device information to the public so that it would be easy to make roms. I remember the good ol days of the nexus 1 when if you got bored of plain jane you could toss sense on it. Get bored with that toss cyan on it. Get bored with that, here is a port for a different phone, and so on. Sense has GREAT photography features but it does use up a LOT of memory. Looks are a matter of taste though. If you love clean and simple and no bells and whistles then light weight roms are where its at. Sense comes with plenty of spaces filled in though. It truly is a Skin job looking modern and sleek. That's my 2 cents I guess.
so the short and most conclusive answer is: Its possible.
No it is not possible. Sense requires HTC drivers and frameworks. Many great devs have tried over the years and they all end up mostly not working for things like data, camera and things like that.
Sense is not a skin on top of android it is a whole different version of android like a different linux distro with closed sourced files that will only run on HTC devices.
Wanna switch phones man, sense sucks and stick with what you got.. I have HTC and 95% of the time I'm on a CM10 rom
Highly doubt it'll ever happen.
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Request: Sense 4+ port to HTC One from Droid DNA

I am formally requesting a port of Sense 4+ from the Droid DNA to the HTC One. I came from the HTC One S(which had Sense 4+)to the HTC One(Sense 5) and am extremely disappointed by what HTC did as far as removed functionality. That and I hate Blinkfeed.
I would be willing to pay decent money to a developer for a perfect, 100% fully functional port.
I have a feeling I'm not alone here too so if you feel the same way, chime in.
You can donate all you want but it's not like you can "buy" a custom rom. You hate Sense 5, a million people love it. HTC did a great job with Sense 5, everything before Sense 5 eventually made the phone lag. I don't see this happening with Sense 5.
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I'm not denying that HTC did a great job on Sense 5. I'm saying it would be nice to have options. Or at least get back the functionality that HTC removed.
I also don't want to "buy" a ROM but I would happily make it worth a developer's while to take on the project
Interesting request ...it would take quite a while to get it ported and Idk how kernel would be since it's a different version of android I believe on sense 4+
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Interesting request ...it would take quite a while to get it ported and Idk how kernel would be since it's a different version of android I believe on sense 4+
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On the HTC One S, we had Sense 4+ on top of Android 4.12. Should be doable.
Can anyone post a some apk's like home or widgets from sense 4 so we can try if they can be installed?
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Also I'm thinking the original Butterfly might be something to look at as well as that is basically the Droid DNA as well.
I for one loved Sense 4 on Android 4.1.2.
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Good luck as I don't think anyone will want to spend the extra time trying to do it.
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Nope, I used sense4+ for a year .. there was absolutely nothing better as compared to sense 5.
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Lol thats like the people that continue to use Windows XP instead of upgrading to 7 or 8. Do you want a port of ICS too? Technology changes - if you don't like the latest Sense then use a different phone or ROM. I think porting Sense 4 would be a huge waste of time since almost nobody would want to take a step backwards and that time would be better spent on something we could all use...
I have an idea, if you don't want the port, or think it would be a waste of time, how about we just don't say anything?
I'm trying to promote development and give users new options but it seems some people feel the need to try and stop that from happening.
Sense 4+ as a complete port would be ideal however I did also say that I would be content with regaining the functionality lost in the transition from Sense 4+ to Sense 5.
hey dharvey nice seeing you here
as far as a back-port goes in theory should be doable but the problem is that the HTC One relies on sense 5 for various things
for example the speakers and camera are will lose significant performence, not to mention it will be an older version of android aswell so overall performance will decrease aswell
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Good luck getting a port. I too had the one s, it was a fantastic device and still is but I personally love sense 5. I couldn't imagine sense 4 on the HTC one, it would be so ugly and old. I didn't realise how rubbish sense 4 performed and looked after using my mums one x+ straight after getting my one. Sense 5 is in another league, it's so light weight it's close to stock android which is why I love it.

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