I'm going to be attending one of the biggest blogging conventions next week BlogHer 11 in San Diego. Samsung reached out to me with an offer to test drive the Galaxy Tab.Fedex delivered the Tab a couple hours ago. The Tab will be returned after testing,I purchased my TF on my own so my impressions and review will be objective.Looking forward to comparing the 2 in real life working situations and sharing my findings with you all.
Initial impressions? Galaxy Tab is light,very slim,build quality is excellent,charger goes together easily,cable is long. Screen quality is good but colors are somewhat oversaturated to my eye.
You can get a USB adapter from Samsung website, $20 USD. Interesting to see what can be connected to Samsung 10.1 using this accessory.
Unfortunately, the 7 inch Samsung will never be compatible with the USB adapter accessory. My Verizon Samsung 7 inch tablet is still Android 2.2 and I am very disappointed. Verizon is not doing anything to *encourage* Samsung tablet purchases with a data plan.
ASUS TF101 has the USB feature in the dock, e.g. two USB ports plus SD card slot. ASUS has not started shipping their USB adapter accessory for the tablet only.
Bob Smith42 said:
You can get a USB adapter from Samsung website, $20 USD. Interesting to see what can be connected to Samsung 10.1 using this accessory.
Unfortunately, the 7 inch Samsung will never be compatible with the USB adapter accessory. My Verizon Samsung 7 inch tablet is still Android 2.2 and I am very disappointed. Verizon is not doing anything to *encourage* Samsung tablet purchases with a data plan.
ASUS TF101 has the USB feature in the dock, e.g. two USB ports plus SD card slot. ASUS has not started shipping their USB adapter accessory for the tablet only.
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Evaluating both devices fairly,without fanboyish bias, doing the kinds of real work I normally do will be interesting. I love my TF but must admit my out of the box impression of the new G Tab is pretty favorable in terms of it's looks,weight and build quality.
The difficulty I would have is comparing them as tablets isn't quite right.
The Galaxy looks to have the advantage on the physical side with it's build quality and profile but the TF was always a "hybrid" concept and sacrifices have been made to make it a cheap dockable netbook replacement. So the TF is an incomplete package with out it's dock.
The Galaxy is not intended for the same use cases as the TF and it's seems unfair to compare it with a device that has a whole extra appendage.
So it's not quite comparing apples with apples. As a pure tablet the Galaxy looks to be the better of the two but does that make for a better overall experience or value for money proposition? I can't say.
At least we have choice in the market place
P.S - Cool job! Have fun with your review!
Yes, I am not bothered with looks.... It is how the two operate and run which what I am interested in.
I was going to purchase the 32GB Galaxy 10.1 here in the UK when released (early Aug) but no MicroSD made the decision to try the TF with Keyboard Dock.
Initially I am impressed with the fact the TF has more scope for hardware use and this is where the Galaxy 10.1 will have to come back in the running.
If you can show the Sammy as being the better of the two I will hand the TF over to my Wife and either take the 32GB or 64GB Sammy.
I have both a TF with keyboard dock and a 16gb Tab 10.1. I agree they are different animals, nothing beats the Tab for true portability in a tablet form factor. But if I'm going to be doing a lot of work (i.e. emails/docs/spreadsheets/etc.) the TF with the keyboard is my preference since I can type way faster and be more comfortable with the physical keyboard. The Tab 10.1 is the best pure tablet I've ever used, even like it better than my iPad.
eli.kennedy said:
The difficulty I would have is comparing them as tablets isn't quite right.
The Galaxy looks to have the advantage on the physical side with it's build quality and profile but the TF was always a "hybrid" concept and sacrifices have been made to make it a cheap dockable netbook replacement. So the TF is an incomplete package with out it's dock.
The Galaxy is not intended for the same use cases as the TF and it's seems unfair to compare it with a device that has a whole extra appendage.
So it's not quite comparing apples with apples. As a pure tablet the Galaxy looks to be the better of the two but does that make for a better overall experience or value for money proposition? I can't say.
At least we have choice in the market place
P.S - Cool job! Have fun with your review!
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I agree whole heartedly with your thoughts,I would love to get my hands on the dock/keyboard for the Galaxy to make the comparision more of an orange against orange review. I think it will come down to what each user needs the tabletfor.I also think Kal-El being on the horizon should influence a lot of purchasing decisions.
Am enjoying the Galaxy Tab 10.1 as an e-reader, it's really light so holding the tab in one hand is not straining or uncomfortable. Also noticing that the sound quality is surprisingly good
I have the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 which charges and syncs using a USB 3 port. I have an old 1-gen Galaxy Tab 10.1 which use to read documents and sometimes read news like on my Note 3. Then I use these two devices while I travel I have to carry two chargers with me the old Samsung non-USB charger for my GT 10.1 and the USB 3 charger for my Note 3.
Some say that the only thing you get from buying this tablet insteed of Note 10.1 2014 is that the Note Pro 12.2 has the larger screen and the USB 3 port. Is that true? Regards if I buy the Note 10.1 2014, I still have to carry two chargers around with me a mini USB 2.0 an mini USB 3.0. What would you Guys surgest that I buy?
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I have the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 which charges and syncs using a USB 3 port. I have an old 1-gen Galaxy Tab 10.1 which use to read documents and sometimes read news like on my Note 3. Then I use these two devices while I travel I have to carry two chargers with me the old Samsung non-USB charger for my GT 10.1 and the USB 3 charger for my Note 3.
Some say that the only thing you get from buying this tablet insteed of Note 10.1 2014 is that the Note Pro 12.2 has the larger screen and the USB 3 port. Is that true? Regards if I buy the Note 10.1 2014, I still have to carry two chargers around with me a mini USB 2.0 an mini USB 3.0. What would you Guys surgest that I buy?
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I have both the note 3 and note pro, I personally like the extra few inches on screen because it is good for textbook reading and good for note taking. The note 10.1 2014 is a lot cheaper, so if you use cost as a factor, get the note 10.1 2014. I got the note pro 64GB when it was 849, now it is down to 799 for the 64GB, about 9GB is used for system storage on the note pro. The flip board ui is actually nice, but it limits your home screens on the normal TouchWiz UI. The office is really handy as well, but all depends on what you use it for.
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I have the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 which charges and syncs using a USB 3 port. I have an old 1-gen Galaxy Tab 10.1 which use to read documents and sometimes read news like on my Note 3. Then I use these two devices while I travel I have to carry two chargers with me the old Samsung non-USB charger for my GT 10.1 and the USB 3 charger for my Note 3.
Some say that the only thing you get from buying this tablet insteed of Note 10.1 2014 is that the Note Pro 12.2 has the larger screen and the USB 3 port. Is that true? Regards if I buy the Note 10.1 2014, I still have to carry two chargers around with me a mini USB 2.0 an mini USB 3.0. What would you Guys surgest that I buy?
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USB 3.0 doesn't affect charging on either the N3 or the N12. Its only value is faster data transfer times to/from a USB 3.0 Windows PC. The S-800 devices charge faster but it's because of Qualcomm's QuickCharge chip, not USB 3.0.
The Galaxy Note 3 ships with USB 3.0, unfortunately at least in its current state it doesn't seem to get any benefit from the interface. Although the internal eMMC is capable of being read from at ~100MB/s, sustained transfers from the device over adb averaged around 30MB/s regardless of whether or not I connected the Note 3 to a USB 2.0 or 3.0 host.
Update: USB 3.0 does work on the Note 3, but only when connected to a Windows PC with USB 3.0. Doing so brings up a new option in the "USB Computer Connection" picker with USB 3.0 as an option. Ticking this alerts you that using USB 3.0 might interfere with calls and data, but then switches over. Connection transfer speed is indeed faster in this mode as well, like you'd expect.
Charging is an interesting story on the Note 3, but primarily because of what doesn’t change. The Note 3 continues to use Samsung’s tablet charging specification and charger, which has 2 amps of maximum output. The Note 3 draws 2 amps over a considerable amount of the charging curve, like other Samsung devices (in the linear part of the charge curve). USB 3.0 doesn’t change things up here quite yet with the new supported charge voltages that are coming eventually with the power delivery specification.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7376/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review/4
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USB 3.0 doesn't affect charging on either the N3 or the N12. Its only value is faster data transfer times to/from a USB 3.0 Windows PC. The S-800 devices charge faster but it's because of Qualcomm's QuickCharge chip, not USB 3.0.
The Galaxy Note 3 ships with USB 3.0, unfortunately at least in its current state it doesn't seem to get any benefit from the interface. Although the internal eMMC is capable of being read from at ~100MB/s, sustained transfers from the device over adb averaged around 30MB/s regardless of whether or not I connected the Note 3 to a USB 2.0 or 3.0 host.
Update: USB 3.0 does work on the Note 3, but only when connected to a Windows PC with USB 3.0. Doing so brings up a new option in the "USB Computer Connection" picker with USB 3.0 as an option. Ticking this alerts you that using USB 3.0 might interfere with calls and data, but then switches over. Connection transfer speed is indeed faster in this mode as well, like you'd expect.
Charging is an interesting story on the Note 3, but primarily because of what doesn’t change. The Note 3 continues to use Samsung’s tablet charging specification and charger, which has 2 amps of maximum output. The Note 3 draws 2 amps over a considerable amount of the charging curve, like other Samsung devices (in the linear part of the charge curve). USB 3.0 doesn’t change things up here quite yet with the new supported charge voltages that are coming eventually with the power delivery specification.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7376/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review/4
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Well I have tested a mini USB 2.0 cable on my Note 3 for charging, and my exprience is that it took almost and hour extra to charge my Note 3 using a Micro USB 2 cable than the Micro USB 3 cable which came with the phone.
Doesnt the quick charge need usb 3.0 to work? I would get the 12.2 the 10.1 feels so miniscule now and the 12.2 is miles ahead in usability
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Well I have tested a mini USB 2.0 cable on my Note 3 for charging, and my exprience is that it took almost and hour extra to charge my Note 3 using a Micro USB 2 cable than the Micro USB 3 cable which came with the phone.
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And I bet it's a non-Samsung cable you're using. Someone posted charging times with Apple and HTC cables/chargers and they were longer because the device was pulling less amperage. My N3 charges just as fast using Samsung 2.0 cables as it does with the 3.0 cable included.
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Doesnt the quick charge need usb 3.0 to work?
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No. It's S-800 related, not USB related.
I Know its the S-800 but I haven't seen anything but the Note 3 and galaxy tabs with 3.0 AND S-800 Claiming to use the feature. None of the others using the chip claim to support quick charge AFAIK . Maybe reviewers just overlook it?
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I Know its the S-800 but I haven't seen anything but the Note 3 and galaxy tabs with 3.0 AND S-800 Claiming to use the feature. None of the others using the chip claim to support quick charge AFAIK . Maybe reviewers just overlook it?
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Qualcomm Quick Charge 1.0 is available today in more than 70 Snapdragon-based devices including the*Droid DNA by HTC,*Samsung Galaxy S III,*Nokia Lumia 920, Asus Padfone and*LG Nexus 4. Below is a list of some of the commercial Snapdragon devices that feature Quick Charge 1.0. Check out the*Snapdragon device finder*to view the full breadth of devices and features powered by Snapdragon and come back next week for exciting news on the newest advancement in fast charging technology. Qualcomm Quick Charge is a product of Qualcomm Technologies, Inc.
http://www.qualcomm.com/media/blog/...-charge-10-less-time-charging-more-time-doing
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Qualcomm Quick Charge 1.0 is available today in more than 70 Snapdragon-based devices including the*Droid DNA by HTC,*Samsung Galaxy S III,*Nokia Lumia 920, Asus Padfone and*LG Nexus 4. Below is a list of some of the commercial Snapdragon devices that feature Quick Charge 1.0. Check out the*Snapdragon device finder*to view the full breadth of devices and features powered by Snapdragon and come back next week for exciting news on the newest advancement in fast charging technology. Qualcomm Quick Charge is a product of Qualcomm Technologies, Inc.
http://www.qualcomm.com/media/blog/...-charge-10-less-time-charging-more-time-doing
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Oh my bad. I thought the s800 was quivk charge 2.0. I hadnt ever seen it talked about before the note 3. nice info Barry
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@Euroman28 I have both and will be putting the Note 10.1 2014 with a boatload of accessories up for sale. That should tell you which I prefer.
When I first got the Pro, it was so much bigger and heavier than my 10.1. I decided to make the 10.1 my couch tablet and the Pro my work tablet.
Two weeks later, and my 10.1 sits untouched for the past three days. The only use it's gotten in the past week is my daughter using Sketchbook.
The 10.1 has its advantages - it's much lighter, easier to hold in one hand, and for games with on screen thumb controls, the 10.1 is light enough for extended gaming.
Everything else? The Pro owns. Remote Desktop, comics, magazines, video, browsing - you name it, and it's better on the Pro. Sketchbook is much better too because there's more area to rest your hand.
I had been saying I'd get the 10.1 if I had to choose because it's a better all around package. But in the past week I've done a 180.
Been there done that, moving on with my 12.2 Note .
Peace and blessings,
Azeke
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I have both the note 3 and note pro, I personally like the extra few inches on screen because it is good for textbook reading and good for note taking. The note 10.1 2014 is a lot cheaper, so if you use cost as a factor, get the note 10.1 2014. I got the note pro 64GB when it was 849, now it is down to 799 for the 64GB, about 9GB is used for system storage on the note pro. The flip board ui is actually nice, but it limits your home screens on the normal TouchWiz UI. The office is really handy as well, but all depends on what you use it for.
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You can actually pick up the note pro 12.2 for 599(32 GB)/699(64 GB) from Costco.
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I think it really depends upon what you value more. Portability or sheer capability, the Note 10.1 is a highly capable tablet which is also fairly portable, the 12.2 on the other hand benefits from an even larger screen and is even more capable than the 10.1 but it suffers with portability.
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I've considered the 10.1". But it simply feels too small for me. I'm one of those people who prefers usability over portability (As evidenced by my 17.3" laptop and my 5.7" Note 3), and the 12.2" is absolutely perfect. (Well no, I would've prefered an AMOLED screen, but alas, those don't exist in that size. So perfect by what's available.).
The 12.2" simply offers more. Bigger screen, more screensize (which really matters when you're multitaksing, typing, reading, watching a film, browsing or gaming.) and more usability. I can now read a magazine in full size, or use a full-sized A4 notepad (well, minus a cm or so) for my sketching and note taking. With films I no longer have to squint at the screen to see what's going on. I watched LOTR3 Extended Bluray on this thing last night. Brilliant, it's a portable TV!
Not to mention using it for navigation (When someone else is driving. We have a shared hatred for TomTom and other speaking navigation systems. I can read a bloody map, ta.). To have that much screen space is a true delight!
I don't get why people say it's not portable though. I use it during my extensive commute (7.5h a day), and I've not once had a moment where it felt too big to handle. The only times I couldn't use it was when changing trains, and I wouldn't even use my phone during that time for risk of theft or damage. (Am I the only one who's always afraid it'll fall onto the tracks when boarding the train?).
I don't think it's too big. My hands are fairly small (women glove size 6) but I can hold this comfortably on the train or sofa without it becoming too heavy.
I tried using my 10.1" TF700 yesterday as well. God no, I am never using anything that small again!
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I've considered the 10.1". But it simply feels too small for me. I'm one of those people who prefers usability over portability (As evidenced by my 17.3" laptop and my 5.7" Note 3), and the 12.2" is absolutely perfect. (Well no, I would've prefered an AMOLED screen, but alas, those don't exist in that size. So perfect by what's available.).
The 12.2" simply offers more. Bigger screen, more screensize (which really matters when you're multitaksing, typing, reading, watching a film, browsing or gaming.) and more usability. I can now read a magazine in full size, or use a full-sized A4 notepad (well, minus a cm or so) for my sketching and note taking. With films I no longer have to squint at the screen to see what's going on. I watched LOTR3 Extended Bluray on this thing last night. Brilliant, it's a portable TV! !
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I have an alternate opinion. I have a note 8 already , and got a note 10.1 2014 recently from Costco. They’ve also dropped the price on the 12.2 lately, it’s only about 80$ more than the note 10.1, so I purchased it with the intention of possibly replacing the note 10. (Still within the 90 day window)
I use my note in an office, for taking meeting minutes and random surfing when I have a min. The note 12.2 is big. It looks almost as big as a 14’ Laptop screen, so in effect I look ridiculous carrying it around. It looks like I have an extra personal laptop at my desk. Plus with that size factor I’m seriously inclined to look at a Windows 8 tablet which I can use as a proper PC. (Yes, I know it is more expensive)
If I were planning to use this only at home and use only the note 8 at the office, I would keep it in a heartbeat. However, I’m planning to retire the note 8, so the 10.1 is a compromise that works in both places.
My 12.2 also has the screen flickering issue, so it would need to go back anyway. I don’t see myself getting a replacement...
Just goes to show that samsung is right to flood the market with choices.
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I have an alternate opinion. I have a note 8 already , and got a note 10.1 2014 recently from Costco. They’ve also dropped the price on the 12.2 lately, it’s only about 80$ more than the note 10.1, so I purchased it with the intention of possibly replacing the note 10. (Still within the 90 day window)
I use my note in an office, for taking meeting minutes and random surfing when I have a min. The note 12.2 is big. It looks almost as big as a 14’ Laptop screen, so in effect I look ridiculous carrying it around. It looks like I have an extra personal laptop at my desk. Plus with that size factor I’m seriously inclined to look at a Windows 8 tablet which I can use as a proper PC. (Yes, I know it is more expensive)
If I were planning to use this only at home and use only the note 8 at the office, I would keep it in a heartbeat. However, I’m planning to retire the note 8, so the 10.1 is a compromise that works in both places.
My 12.2 also has the screen flickering issue, so it would need to go back anyway. I don’t see myself getting a replacement...
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Understandably so. It is, after all, a matter of personal preference. You have to use your tablet, not anyone else. So you should buy the one you prefer, not what someone else prefers.
It also matter what you do at the office and at home as to wether it is useful. Whilst I find a thousand uses for it as a designer, I can easily imagine someone with a less creative occupation would not find as much use for a tablet of this size, and would prefer something more portable. I need the extra screen landscape, but others do not per se.
I often use it as a fourth screen. My laptop's and two 22" monitors are the main setup, with the tablet as a secondary system. One screen for Photoshop, one for Indesign/Illustrator, one for Bridge(the laptop) and my tablet serves as my internet/sketching system. The advantage of that is that with two split systems, the impact on the hardware is less severe. (because Photoshop + Indesign + Bridge is a VERY big resource hog. It makes Skyrim at Ultra look like notepad.)
I do often get reactions that I look ridiculous with a tablet this big, yes. I honestly can't be bothered to care. It's MY tablet, not theirs. I have to use it, not them. What they think is so unimportant it's an entirely different planet. I did not buy the tablet for them. Then again, I also get a lot of reactions from people who really like the size of it.
For entertainment and artistic purposes, it's a perfect size. For non-artistic and non-media use, not so much. For corporate use, it would depend on the kind of job.
Although one does look quite retarded taking pictures with it. :laugh: :silly:
I really do like the idea of the Surface with full Windows 8. The thing about it that puts me off faster than a pair of crocks is the Intel HD 4400.
I refuse to pay 2000 euro for rubbish that should've been banned from the market a decade ago. (I would want the best one as a laptop replacement for my Gaming needs as well. And Skyrim, Dragon Age, Mirror's Edge or Mass Effect on an Intel HD GPU = Nope.)
If they bring us the Surface 4 one with a serious Nvidia, I'd be willing to give up the Wacom pen. That would be one hell of a powerhouse! I would so buy that...
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Just goes to show that samsung is right to flood the market with choices.
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Very much so. There are 7 billion people and potential customers on the planet, it is corporate suicide to assume everyone is identical and wants the same thing for the same reasons and use it the same. It's a mistake that's going to bite Apple in the arse soon enough.
You catch more fish with a wide net than with a single hook.
USB 3 works better than expected.
Note 10.1
I did a couple experiments with the Note 10.1 2014, trying to get it to work correctly before giving up entirely. Using either the Samsung charger/cable or the aftermarket one, the tablet would always discharge when the screen was on. Slowly, albeit, but i need a device that can work and charge at the same time. I tried turning down the brightness and switching off the wi-fi, but it had the same results: the battery would keep draining.
Note Pro
I returned the 10.1 2014 and, with some trepidation, got the Note Pro as a replacement. I was pleasantly surprised: with USB 3 and a half-decent charger, it charges during use. I tried using a generic Amazon USB cable with equally beneficial results. The charger should be 2.1A, but most high-powered, tablet-based ones should do. That's pretty cool, considering I can get a 6-foot USB 3 cable for about $8.
There is something about USB 3 that lets the Note Pro charge faster. I'd recommend it for any "power" users.
I own the note 10.1 2014 - its a great tablet easy to carry around due to the size - it is my go to tablet and very quick once you install the xkat rom and xluco kernel - I also own the 8.4 pro also a great tablet - this one is running cm11 - and much more portable then even the note 10.1, I am picking up a note 12.2 tomorrow - bought a used one at a great price and while I don't need all 3 tablets I will probably keep 2 of them, just not sure which 2 yet - I am thinking it will be the 12.2 and 8.4 but you never know :laugh: my only concern right now is that there are no custom roms for the note pro 12.2 and I really don't like running stock
Hey guys, I'm finally thinking about upgrading from my Galaxy nexus to a Samsung Galaxy Note 3. I'm not seeing that much of a difference between the note 3 and 4 other than obvious hardware upgrades. I use my phone mainly for games and will likely be using it for alot of record keeping for work and blue tooth features. Is Bluetooth good on the note 3?
Very good my friend saying that, if I didn't have my Note 3, I'd most certainly have the LG G3
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20phileagles said:
Hey guys, I'm finally thinking about upgrading from my Galaxy nexus to a Samsung Galaxy Note 3. I'm not seeing that much of a difference between the note 3 and 4 other than obvious hardware upgrades. I use my phone mainly for games and will likely be using it for alot of record keeping for work and blue tooth features. Is Bluetooth good on the note 3?
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when u say gaming heads will turn to nvidia shield tablet But about bluetooth, yes i didn't have any issue with bluetooth on my N3
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for gaming maybe u like to know Samsung Gear VR that pair with Note4 is awesome gaming accessory
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Or the Nvidia shield as mentioned above but most, if not all of the android Samsung, Sony, LG etc phones that have come out within the last year have the adreno 330 GPU so the graphics is only going to appear different on a higher resolution display