So, as the title says, i´m thinking in giving a new life to one of my HD2's, I have 3 of them and they are almost stored in a shelf.
The idea is to get this phone as a carputer, we know HD2 is still running strong thanks to the wonderfull devs here, so I think it will be a great to have it having a new life.
The basic needs will be gps, music, fm radio, obd tool ( with torque ) and phone, and if you have more ideas i will appreciate the input.
The car is vw passat 1.8T, so i´m looking for a solution that doesn´t involve using a windshield mount as it is a little far from reach for my taste, also would like to protect it from heat in summer days, so probably i will go for a vent type mounting.
These are the things I need to decide:
What rom to use - needs to work well with navigation, bluetooth calls being able to recieve calls while with navigation on without closing it due to ram starvation;
What mount to use - this one the more important, use one mount or design and build a something to dock it when in car;
what connections to put - use the 3.5 mm jack for audio or use bluetooth ( in the last case I have to buy a bluetooth reciever cause my stereo doesn´t have bluetooth )
usb otg with powered hub - yes or no
To design something specificly for HD2 or something that in the future can be used for other phones/tablets
I will add some pictures later and more stuff coming as the project develops,
Thanks
Hugo
Hi yugoport, I think if you use obd, you will need usb otg with powered hub. Therefore you will need DFT wm6.5 from here unless you can use a ubuntu distro. The android usb otg kernel does not charge.
I am no expert on any of what you are trying to do, but will subscribe and follow with interest. Good luck.
Edit; found http://www.autologicco.com/p_obd.html
this would be really cool
Robbie P said:
Hi yugoport, I think if you use obd, you will need usb otg with powered hub. Therefore you will need DFT wm6.5 from here unless you can use a ubuntu distro. The android usb otg kernel does not charge.
I am no expert on any of what you are trying to do, but will subscribe and follow with interest. Good luck.
Edit; found http://www.autologicco.com/p_obd.html
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Thanks Robbie, actually I didn't know that the android USB otg didn't charge, thank you to point it out.
For OBD I have vagcom for windows PC, so the use in android will be light so I was planning to use a cheap Bluetooth adapter with torque app.
Thank you mate
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Recently I also thought about using my HD2 for car. I am not very experienced in ROM-software, but have some ideas of hardware, esp. car handling. After surfing an Internet I have found out that original car kit price is still space shuttle level. But regular universal holders look not eough safely for me. I guess it is reasonable to buy regular battery lid for HD2( pretty cheap in the Amazon f.e.), than fix it to any PDA-Navigator holder instead of universal clamps by hidden-head screws. If you are good skilful hand maker, you can install in this lid 3 additional contacts for battery charger. But you will need proper manual for cirquit and schematics or charger specs, because this contacts connected bypass of biult in battery controller.
I agree about possibly using those 3 contacts under the battery lid for charging, and therefore using the usb port for communications only, it would be worth researching. But i never did like the idea of the original (space shuttle) car dock replacing the back cover. It did not seem secure enough and the phone could possibly be knocked off. You could strengthen a cheap universal one by putting screws into the ball joint after getting it in the right position.
Now, I am thinking about another idea. If you already used H\2 as a car GPS you definitely got the situation with overheated battery (indicates by blinking red-green LED). This case a battery controller interrupts charging and generally it's not good for the device. Especially because this season is coming. I will try to use regular cheap portable case with charger (see pic.)
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. I am going to remove battery and parts form there and place thin small cooler (from a video card or laptop) to provide good cooling. Also this case is more capable for mounting in the regular holder and can be used for the charging of the phone. It is much better than connect USB cable directly to the device. I will report my progress here.
Nice ideas flowing guys..using the contacts to charging the battery seems a great idea, I can research on this, I have some experience in electronics, also I have here a hd2 for spares that I can use to test, I will do it this week.
Regarding the place I still haven't decided if I should use a car mount or no, I only use vent mounts because I can cool it in summer, also it's closer compared to the windshield mounts.
I can try to build a special cradle for it, but I will think in it later.
I'm using clingo vent mount and its decent ,but for this I think It would be better something like the brodit mount which is a tight solution, but not integrated as I wish, so I think I will have to build a built in cradle with charging + usb otg, the direct charging of battery might be a good solution.
For the phone calls, I searched for an app that would allow to forward the call from my S3 to the HD2 via Bluetooth when I'm in the car,but there isn't such a thing, I don't have Bluetooth in my car stereo,I could buy a Bluetooth reciever and connect it to the aux, but the idea was to be able to use only the HD2 that I will leave in the car sometimes to control everything, the solution for this so far is gmate, I use it in the S3 and it works well with the HD2 also, I could set a tasker profile to disconnect the gmate from S3 and connect it to HD2 using the Bluetooth near function, then HD2 would control the phone calls.. lets see how it goes..
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Has anyone been able to connect HTC to a projector and give a presentation e.g. present a powerpoint deck?
- JoKer
I haven't tried this, but you might need a screen scaler like NYDITOT Virtual Display...
goestoeleven said:
I haven't tried this, but you might need a screen scaler like NYDITOT Virtual Display...
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You da man!! Seems like an awesome software .. However, what kind of cable you would need .. because HTC TyTN is only mini-USB but the projector would need a monitor cable ..
Best guess on the cable at this stage: "Google is your Friend...." :wink:
Ok that google is your friend, but do you know what is the cable. Because here whe are talking about a output image to other device, this is possible using a cable, wich one. I know that is some new projectors that have a bluetooth connection and one sd connector (too expensive) that do this. But i havent head nothing about cable connection.
medicor said:
Ok that google is your friend, but do you know what is the cable. Because here whe are talking about a output image to other device, this is possible using a cable, wich one. I know that is some new projectors that have a bluetooth connection and one sd connector (too expensive) that do this. But i havent head nothing about cable connection.
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Basically, a mini-USB to VGA converter. Also, "NYDITOT Virtual Display" is for connecting to an external display but what's the point of the software really without a cable?
Sorry bud, but I haven't seen any external mini-USB adapters to date.
Frankly, I think you're much better off presenting off of a laptop, but that's my opinion.
I found this old article; maybe it will help point you in the right direction:
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/tips/margi_presenter.htm
The company they refer to nolonger makes hardware...
Sorry bud, but I haven't seen any external video / mini-USB adapters to date.
Frankly, I think you're much better off presenting off of a laptop, but that's my opinion.
I found this old article; maybe it will help point you in the right direction:
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/tips/margi_presenter.htm
The company they refer to nolonger makes hardware...
I found this one, which requires a miniSD (also won't work on the TyTN):
http://www.conduits.com/company_news.asp?pr20060822.html
I'm afraid you're probably ahead of the market in your requirements...
ok follow the condius news and know the sdv product
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http://www.spectec.com.tw/en/sdv-840.htm
not a microsd!
wonder our hermes microsd slot is a sdio slot?
I could be wrong but I don't think MicroSD slots are SDIO... The slot is too small and the cards too flimsy to support any time of external dongle.
yes i think so!
but it could be wrong
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=139433&tab=1
hope it is a sdio
vua777 said:
yes i think so!
but it could be wrong
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=139433&tab=1
hope it is a sdio
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Awesome vua777. Nice find. Can't wait fot it to get released. Then I wouldnt need my laptop anymore.
[edit] WTF .. "The Video-To-Go micro SD Card allows Pocket PC users with micro SD (TransFlash) slots to connect their digital projectors or other displays to the PDA (micro SD to SD adaptor also included in the box). Please note: This product does not convert the screen’s image into a VGA video signal." .. what does that mean?
goestoeleven said:
I'm afraid you're probably ahead of the market in your requirements...
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goestoeleven... Thanks for the compliment. 8) People like me define the future of the technology with their twisted needs .. :twisted:
Well I'm glad somebody is going to be producing one of these... I do hope it's sturdy enough to get through a couple presentations, too!
Best of luck!
PS. I think my initial comment still applies -- you're going to need a screen scaler to work with this device (otherwise, your presentation will be 320x240 resolution!)
PPS. I haven't found any information that says the MicroSD slot is SDIO compatible (and I have no way of testing)... I hope it is though!
Pocket Controller is your solution.. works when connects any PPC to the PC using USB-Activesync...
Sorry for the time to reply...
Nyditot works in you TyTn? i need a Hard Reset every time I tried to change the resolution...
What you can do is buy a usb to vga converter, then buy a cable to can convert the usb to mini usb and your all set. Then you just need the software for the resolution.
Marcello7x said:
What you can do is buy a usb to vga converter, then buy a cable to can convert the usb to mini usb and your all set. Then you just need the software for the resolution.
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You're kidding, right?
This this:
http://www.spectec.com.tw/sdv842.htm
I saw them at CES and they have lots of SDIO products. They were using the a prototype when I was there. It was Micro SD but I did not recognize the phone. It definitely not a states phone.
It worked well though.
Ever heard about that?
Yesterday I received my ShowMate (http://www.impatica.com/showmate/). It is a bluetooth/vga adapter. So far it is working pretty good, but didn't had enough time for hardcore-testing.
But you have to know that you need a software on your pc to convert your ppt's. And you also need a software to project (and resize) your converted presentations.
There is also another bluetooth adapter
http://www.infrablue.co.uk/index.php?a=irmabluetooth
I think, you also need software to convert your presentations for this adapter.
Impatica is currently working on a solution to show your hole ppc-screen as you can only show the presentations with the current releases.
Hi, I'm looking for a car mount for my kaiser, could some one give me their opinion? I need one that I can plug my usb/audio y cable, but also one that allows me to slide into mount and to usb.
thanks!
I am most definately interested in getting some opinions as well. I have googled "kaiser car mount" and found a few kits for around 30$ but I wanted to know if anyone had any better options. Some of the ones I found seem very clunky and I want something as minimally intrusive as possible
Thanks!
tak.japan said:
Hi, I'm looking for a car mount for my kaiser, could some one give me their opinion? I need one that I can plug my usb/audio y cable, but also one that allows me to slide into mount and to usb.
thanks!
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Just a few threads down is one with what you're looking for...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339263
hey i got the following from best buy. so far its been great, i can plug in my car charger/headset no problem. the only thing is that u cant slide out the keyboard while using this mount (which i've never had to do). the nice thing is that its got a long arm, so its pretty close to you
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...etron&lp=7&type=product&cp=1&id=1138084373352
let me know if u have any more questions
omar
URPREY said:
Just a few threads down is one with what you're looking for...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339263
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I really don't want to modd it though... I want it to work right out of the box...
omaralt said:
hey i got the following from best buy. so far its been great, i can plug in my car charger/headset no problem. the only thing is that u cant slide out the keyboard while using this mount (which i've never had to do). the nice thing is that its got a long arm, so its pretty close to you
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...etron&lp=7&type=product&cp=1&id=1138084373352
let me know if u have any more questions
omar
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thanks for the opinion, but it's not slide-in one is it? Also, I don't see usb plug, but am I supposed to plug it in manually?
I'm looking for a one that I could slide in to both mount and to usb....
thanks
no its not a slide in one; it leaves the area where you plug in the charger free though
tak.japan said:
I really don't want to modd it though... I want it to work right out of the box...
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Thats the ACTIVE version of that hardware, with its own charger.
If you get the Passive version of the hardware theres no charger block on the bottom, leaving the USB slot free and open for Data/Charger/Audio slotting in,
That mod, I believe was only for people with the ACTIVE, who wanted to use not just charge, but also audio and data too.
So look for the passive, and you wont need to mod it.
tak.japan said:
I really don't want to modd it though... I want it to work right out of the box...
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There is no mount available right now to do this without some modification...
Best Car Mount
Haven't looked at other models but I've been pretty happy with a PDA universal unit from http://www.arkon.com/ ...
I personally liked the seat mounted flexible gooseneck model. Go to AutoZone or chief and get the special star socket wrench accessory made specifically for the size of your seat bolt. (An Allen wrench will probably strip the bolt if you beast on it...)
It holds my AT&T Tile / HTC Kaiser and also came with a surface mount adapter that I was able to adapt to my old Magellan GPS unit. Also will hold my I-pod and my old Treo 600. So it's a pretty versatile unit all around...
Took about 5 minutes to install. Put in passenger seat and doesn't get in way of passenger at all. No complaints from passengers...
I use these guys mount for my iPod and will be getting one of these for my Tilt....
http://www.proclipusa.com/default.asp
Proclip mount
dgduris said:
I use these guys mount for my iPod and will be getting one of these for my Tilt....
http://www.proclipusa.com/default.asp
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What a nice website - looks like they can fit almost any item specifically onto your exact vehicle - they know what they're doing!
windshield mount
I'm looking for a car mount that i can use on my windshield. i was looking at these when i had an 8125, will this still work for an 8925?
http://cgi.ebay.com/CAR-MOUNT-HOLDE...ryZ75447QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
dgduris said:
I use these guys mount for my iPod and will be getting one of these for my Tilt....
http://www.proclipusa.com/default.asp
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I've used a few different holders over the years...winshield type, vent type, cup holder type...and the ProClip (Brodit) is by far the best one. I've used this one for 2 years with my JasJar and have now bought the device holder portion for the TyTN II (still using the same car mount.)
I got the passive one so I can use the headphone/ExtUSB Y-splitter to allow me to charge and use the headphone jack together.
dgduris said:
I use these guys mount for my iPod and will be getting one of these for my Tilt....
http://www.proclipusa.com/default.asp
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Yep, I just got this mount for my Evo and it holds very well no matter how fast I go.
Every button on the Tilt is accessible (except camera) while it's in place. I also chose to get the passive mount so I can run my own car charger I already had.
see here for an easy, non-destructive way to mod the brodit passive holder into an active one with audio out. Basically you just use some modelling clay type stuff to hold the plug of the audio splitter in the place it needs to be so that when you slide your phone into the holder, the audio splitter plugs in.
Here's a new option:
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=881
I've used Seidio cradles in the past and they were decent, but fairly large. It has everything you'd need including speakerphone and audio out. It's not yet available.
I just ordered 2 of these for my cars.
http://cgi.ebay.com/CAR-MOUNT-FOR-H...eZWD1VQQtrksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem
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I like it because it's pretty long and it comes with a charger. Not bad for $9.00 shipped.
-haze- said:
I like it because it's pretty long and it comes with a charger. Not bad for $9.00 shipped.
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Too bad the Car Charger is for Motorola Razr V3 and not for Kaiser.
nl0pat said:
Too bad the Car Charger is for Motorola Razr V3 and not for Kaiser.
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Nope, it works for the Kaiser.
Guyz, need ur honest opinion/idea here :help:
i'm thinking to install this 7" monitor in my car (USD110), and plug it with my Touch Pro via TV-Out cable .. so the video appears on the screen and the audio comes out from my car speakers..
The purpose is, so i can use my TP in-car with larger screen and better view
- Garmin Mobile XT GPS navigation (actually this is my main purpose)
- Google Maps Satellite Image n Street navigation
- internet surfing
- watch video
- listen to mp3
- play games (for my kids)
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actually i'm stealing this guy's idea.. looks cool and useful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjnABOFkJZw
So what do guyz think? is it not worth..? i can see more pro's than cons.. here are some cons that i've thought about:
- TP battery will suffer especially if long distance traveling (even we can charge battery while using the TV-out cable)
- internet surfing only when my car is idling ... how to surf if driving 60mph?! :shock:
There might be more +ve or -ve consequences, so i need ur honest opinions especially those who have tried and used it before.. Thanks in advance
Should work only problem is your Touch Pro is 4:3 and that's a 16:9 screen so you will either have a stretched image or black bars at the sides....
Infact now I see it says only 234 pixes high that's rubbish!
i use my Fuze on my iva-w505 all the time for gps, but i always want to touch the w505's screen to make changes.... then i have to grab the fuze to do it.
for gps... i say get something dedicated, for everything else... the touch pro should be perfect.
jwhitham said:
Should work only problem is your Touch Pro is 4:3 and that's a 16:9 screen so you will either have a stretched image or black bars at the sides....
Infact now I see it says only 234 pixes high that's rubbish!
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i'm noob in pixel resolution etc.. whats the best pixel for 7" screen?
I haven't checked if the TV out image goes off when you hit the power button to turn off the screen on the touch pro, but in my setup in my car i have my TP on a mount with some audio/power cable from ebay going into my center console. From there i wired an extra cig lighter off the cig lighter feed wires and plugged in a car charger to the audio/power cable as well as the audio to my aux on my stereo.
When I'm using it to listen to music if i need to charge it i just turn the screen off and it actually charges while still playing, so maybe it'll work the same way for the set up you're trying to do? This is all assuming the TV out doesn't shut off when you put the phone into standby.
According to that screen its 960x234 whereas the native resolution for TP is 640x480, so you would get a stretched screen, i tried it on my 46" lcd in the living room and it wasn't pretty.
I like using my Fuze connected to my Pioneer AVIC F700bt. Like someone else mentioned you have to tap the small screen on the Fuze to navigate it. There is a thread I found on mp3car.com that linked back to XDA talking about making the Fuze a usb host. If that becomes successful then we might be able to use an external touchscreen to contol our devices.
Until then, I'm gonna order a bluetooth mouse to control the Fuze easily with one hand instead of trying to tap small buttons on its screen with my fat fingers.
ewww
While I like the idea you got going on... you're really not benefiting at all except maybe for GPS use.
The lack of a touch screen on the 7" sucks. If i have to hold the phone in my hand and look AT the phone to maneuver around... I might as well just use the phone with a windshield mount.
Don't they make a 7" touchscreen monitor that you can actually use to control the phone entirely? I remember some guy doing this for the Axim x51v.
Anyone made any progress with this sort of idea?
thedocrn said:
I like using my Fuze connected to my Pioneer AVIC F700bt. Like someone else mentioned you have to tap the small screen on the Fuze to navigate it. There is a thread I found on mp3car.com that linked back to XDA talking about making the Fuze a usb host. If that becomes successful then we might be able to use an external touchscreen to contol our devices.
Until then, I'm gonna order a bluetooth mouse to control the Fuze easily with one hand instead of trying to tap small buttons on its screen with my fat fingers.
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i just picked up a Fuze to do this exact same thing with my f700bt. Was thinking of pairing the bluetooth mouse(Logitech v270 seems to work with WM phones) and keyboard(think outside stowaway) as well. My main purpose was really to escape the hassle of installing an external carpc. I do a lot of school and business on the road so this fulfills my needs with the mouse and keyboard added. Also, SLINGBOX
I just installed an AVH-P3100DVD with A/V input in my car today. I'd also like to run the TV-Out cable to use GPS on my screen.
I'm actually searching for the thread now on how to make it and I came across this thread.
just hook up the tv out cable to the fuze multi-adapter and the rca's on the other end to the a/v inputs of the headunit
i have a Pioneer AVH-P4000DVD which i then plug my HTC Fuze into. I use the adapter that came with the phone, and then plug a regular av cable into it. In order for the regular AV cable to work you have to plug the Red cable into the Yellow input, the Yellow Cable into the White input, and the White cable into the Red input.
The video quality is fair, the audio is so so. I use it mainly for my GPS and YouTube videos. Its pretty cool. When using the GPS on my Fuze I can have the sound from my phone come out through the speakers, at this point i cant play music though, but my stereo has a set up which i can use my AV input as my background (no audio just video), which then while allow me to play my ipod/radio/cd whatever with my GPS on the background. check ur manual many of Pioneer come with that option.
the sound that comes from the Fuze has a little static and can be quite annoying if the volume is high i dont know if this is because i am using the adapter and a regular cable.
anyone who has the actual Fuze Tv Out cable hear static?
well i hope this helps.
i would recommend it. it looks really cool and it is very useful when traveling.
Nathalie
well you could wait until the touch pro 2 comes out as that has 16:9 800x480 resolution.
for the external touch screen to work you would need 2 things
1st USB touchscreen kit, these are made for netbooks but most of them have Windows CE drivers on them...
2nd is your phone would require USB host mode but currently few of HTC phones have that.
eghoti1 said:
just hook up the tv out cable to the fuze multi-adapter and the rca's on the other end to the a/v inputs of the headunit
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I know how, I just thought I remembered someone making their own cable a while ago. I have 2 boxes full of A/V cables here but none of them have the correct jacks on both ends.
I have the TP from verizon, and i have slingbox at home, my kids are able to watch Disney in the van while driving around, not a bad picture, very little lag.
...
pcboyy said:
Guyz, need ur honest opinion/idea here :help:
i'm thinking to install this 7" monitor in my car (USD110), and plug it with my Touch Pro via TV-Out cable .. so the video appears on the screen and the audio comes out from my car speakers..
The purpose is, so i can use my TP in-car with larger screen and better view
- Garmin Mobile XT GPS navigation (actually this is my main purpose)
- Google Maps Satellite Image n Street navigation
- internet surfing
- watch video
- listen to mp3
- play games (for my kids)
actually i'm stealing this guy's idea.. looks cool and useful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjnABOFkJZw
So what do guyz think? is it not worth..? i can see more pro's than cons.. here are some cons that i've thought about:
- TP battery will suffer especially if long distance traveling (even we can charge battery while using the TV-out cable)
- internet surfing only when my car is idling ... how to surf if driving 60mph?! :shock:
There might be more +ve or -ve consequences, so i need ur honest opinions especially those who have tried and used it before.. Thanks in advance
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Yo... That'z Brilliant... I Never Even Thought About Doin That... Might Have To Make Some Stereo Changes In My Car Too!!! Lol I'm Already Blind As A Bat... The Bigger Screen The Better...
It works grate man
I have a Ford Ranger with a kenwood 7in in dash almost just like the one u are looking at and let me tell u garmin works grate. OOOOO by the way all the music u have is gonna sound like u have the band in the back seat with u fliping rocks go for it. P.S. u need to go look at ebay for the av cable that has a charging port u will need it with the gps running. (About 8 bucks U.S.)
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took me:
5 minutes to root.
5 minutes to install CM10.
3 hours to mount it to the dashboard cause i had to cut a lot of holes in my car
But the project isn't over yet. I still need to fine tune the position of the tablet to it's sits against the frame.
Make a USB(OTG) y-cable so i can charge while mounting external storage.
Fine some more awesome applications for the car
But now to some question
Will it even be possible to charge while using USB host through a y-cable without hacking the kernel?
Sweeeeeet! Keep us posted, also would love to know how your best connectivity is. WiFi, 3 g, Bluetooth, etc.
Thank you!
I cant answer your question... but try it, it may already work. What car is that btw, was thinking on later putting my tab in my mustang, but tthe shaker audio system is wayy too good to screw up if i messed it up somehow, ill stick to that aux for now lol.
Sent either from my p113 (gtab 2 7.0) or i997 (Infuse)
P3110 does not have 3G. Just Wifi.
Sent from my GT-P3110 using xda premium
Sorry, I wasn't clear I meant 3g from teather (or 4g) Thank you anyway. keeping these numbers straight
P 3113
Hey Guys, thanks for the feedback.
Status is i got 3 things left to do now.
1: wait for my OTG cable to arrive and then install that, and hopefully i will be able to charge while using usb as host.
2: lift tablet 2 millimeters in the left side.
3: give my tablet black bezel, think solution will be electricity tape (i know it's kind of crazy to tape my brand new tablet). But after i placed the tablet where it's ought to be, the white bezel isn't as visible as on the picture above.
wowmail said:
Sweeeeeet! Keep us posted, also would love to know how your best connectivity is. WiFi, 3 g, Bluetooth, etc.
Thank you!
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I live i Thailand where the 3g kind of suck, but i made speed and ping test on both tablet and mobile while using tethering, and there wasn't any notable difference between the tablet and the mobile. The GPS in Galaxy tab 2 is very good when comparing with other mobiles and tablets i tried, it connects to a lot of satellites right away. Bluetooth and microphone also works fine, so seems like i havent blocked for any connectivity
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I cant answer your question... but try it, it may already work. What car is that btw, was thinking on later putting my tab in my mustang, but tthe shaker audio system is wayy too good to screw up if i messed it up somehow, ill stick to that aux for now lol.
Sent either from my p113 (gtab 2 7.0) or i997 (Infuse)
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It's a Mitsubishi Triton GLS 2011 (aka L200), nothing special but a damn good truck for it's engine class (won the award for best high-lifted pickup).
One of the reasons i went for Tab 2 instead of Nexus beside the hassle i would have to order it from abroad, and all the problems i read people have with the tablet, is the DAC in this tablet (Wolfson). I might look into a digital audio solution later on, but for now it's analog audio transferred to the stereo. I love good audio, but not quite audiophile, but being in a vehicle i don't find it that important for now
I'll let people know if i find a solution for the charging while using USB as host!
Just a little image update after i taped the bezel black
Next up, OTG, USB hub and sd-card reader!
OMG this is really awesome. I want also want it in my car .
Really great, fantastic idea! :good:
Any news on this project ?
some pictures ?
and did you manege to made Y cable to charge TAB and have storage at sime time ?
If, is it posibile to have external USB DAC and charging at the sime time ?
(I heard thet there will be option to conect external USB dac to TAB 2 (3100,3110...)
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Any news on this project ?
some pictures ?
and did you manege to made Y cable to charge TAB and have storage at sime time ?
If, is it posibile to have external USB DAC and charging at the sime time ?
(I heard thet there will be option to conect external USB dac to TAB 2 (3100,3110...)
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Sorry about my late reply, i changed the Galaxy tab 2 out with a Nexus 7 instead which didn't solve the problem though, even with Timur kernel that doesn't really charge enough using OTG/charge.
With Nexus 7 it is possible to have USB DAC, but i think it is a little overkill to be audiophile when it comes to car sound unless you have a disco on wheels.
Anyway, my solution ended up being wireless storage and i can highly recommend this: http://www.amazon.com/RAVPower®-Wireless-External-Streaming-RP-WD01/dp/B00AQUMZRA which will also work fine with the Galaxy tab 2.
To make it a better experience then make sure you have a kernel that support cifs, or at least the module and then use app like CifsManager from play store to mount the storage as local storage, that way you can access the files within any application you wish.
Will take some new photos of the setup again soon, since the old ones have been removed.
So I'm thinking I'm going to tether via wifi my phone's GPS with the NST. Has anyone done this? Is there a good offline map pack for eink devices?
Let me know your thoughts...
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So I did it last weekend and it works great. Downloaded some Topos from Rmaps after rooting and turning on mock locations via SQLite on the NST. Installed GPS Tether on phone and NST. Turned on phone hotspot, then tethered the NST to the phone and blamo! GPS. I already have a solar panel I wired up and will attach to the backpack to charge both the NST and the external battery for the phone.
Meet Earl was my inspiration.
I have not tried that, but I did just order an Earl for the same purpose. Maybe you could use whatever they use for maps.
I cant post links, but google meetearl.
One of the problems with USB is that it is a bit power intensive.
Also, running things off USB you need to convert 3.3 V to 5 V to 3.3 V
If I were trying to turn the Nook into a hiking map I would...
Get a GPS module that runs off 3.3V, maybe this: http://www.adafruit.com/products/790
Connect it directly into the internal 3.3 V serial port on the Nook.
I don't know what you'd have to do for the antenna.
You'd probably need an external antenna, but external to the case or not is the question.
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So I'm thinking I'm going to tether via wifi my phone's GPS with the NST. Has anyone done this? Is there a good offline map pack for eink devices?
Let me know your thoughts...
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Feeding GPS data from one device to another - there is no much need for such an app, shouldn't be a problem to write one using Mock Locations provider.
I was wondering, what uses more power: external USB GPS or WiFi tethering?
iGo Primo claims it works with 1.6 and up
Sygic: GPS Navigation & Maps - 2.0.1
TomTom: 2.2 and up
Update
See OP.
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I already have a solar panel I wired up and will attach to the backpack to charge both the NST and the external battery for the phone.
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Sounds really cool!
Could you post a picture of you setup, please?
BTW: If you are Eco Friendly person, check this out Bicycle Generator Kit with 5 LED headlight and 3 LED red flashing taillight and Charger Port for MP3 and Mobile Devices
Or if you prefer DIY (like RenateNST) - this is for you USB-Bike-Generator
BTW2: Did you try Google Maps too?
Look at tophatsoaring.wikispaces.com/Top+Hat+on+Nook+Simple+Touch
It's using external gps on NST
Renate NST said:
One of the problems with USB is that it is a bit power intensive.
Also, running things off USB you need to convert 3.3 V to 5 V to 3.3 V
If I were trying to turn the Nook into a hiking map I would...
Get a USB module that runs off 3.3V, maybe this:
Connect it directly into the internal 3.3 V serial port on the Nook.
I don't know what you'd have to do for the antenna.
You'd probably need an external antenna, but external to the case or not is the question.
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Hey Renate NST, do you have any more detail about how you'd go about this? I bought a Nook ST last week for exactly this purpose (though I also want to install a solar panel on the back of it and weatherproof the whole system), and actually have one of those GPS chips you listed (on a breakout board though) from an old project with an RPi.
So in terms of the next steps... (apologies for the dumb questions, this is the first time I've properly played with something not intended to be played with)
- How do I find the serial port? I've spent about ten minutes looking at the board and haven't found it.
- How do I then get a maps program (I'm using rmaps at present) to take the serial input as GPS input? Will I need to parse the NMEA?
Thanks in advance,
Jake
The UART for /dev/ttyS1 is detailed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1702734
I haven't looked too closely into serial NMEA-0183 working on the Android.
I have gotten the USB version to ouput via a cat.
It seems that most folks who do that just read and parse it themselves then use the Android "mock location" interface.
The "mock location" is so that you can playback a trip from Boston to San Francisco without driving anywhere.
It seems that it would be cleaner to not go through the "mock location" interface.
Now you've used this for a while how long does the WiFi last on your phone and how long on the Nook?
Even if not saving battery at least we can read the screen this way
GPS on USB
I'm using the following:
- NST glow
- OTG cable (micro USB male, regular USB female)
- reduction (regular USB male, mini USB male (and an extra USB for external power, but haven't tried that so far))
- GPS unit (QStarz BT-Q1000XT)
- USB mode utility app
- UsbGps4Droid app
Works perfectly. I haven't noticed any substantial power drain, but I switch the GPS off after a few minutes every time...
I use it mostly with Osmand, but it seems to work with any other app.
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I'm using the following:
- NST glow
- OTG cable (micro USB male, regular USB female)
- reduction (regular USB male, mini USB male (and an extra USB for external power, but haven't tried that so far))
- GPS unit (QStarz BT-Q1000XT)
- USB mode utility app
- UsbGps4Droid app
Works perfectly. I haven't noticed any substantial power drain, but I switch the GPS off after a few minutes every time...
I use it mostly with Osmand, but it seems to work with any other app.
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I tested almost that exact setup (QStarz 818X) but the extra cables were a ***** so I hacked apart my nook and got this:
(currently being refined further)
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I can't tell at all what you are doing.
Is that small thing a Bluetooth serial module? What model?
Is it going directly into a Nook hardware serial port or the USB?
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I can't tell at all what you are doing.
Is that small thing a Bluetooth serial module? What model?
Is it going directly into a Nook hardware serial port or the USB?
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Its a really small GPS module (SparkFun) going directly into the Nook UART. Currently looking to drop the battery voltage to 3.3 for V_BAT of the GPS Here is the current state:
Black - GND
Orange - VCC 3.3 (goes off with screen saver)
Blue - RX
Green - TX
The switch is for putting GPS to sleep mode.
Yup, direct to the UART is the way to go.
I guess the ceramic antenna is too big to fit inside the Nook between the aluminum plate and the top case?
I think that I'd cut a rectangle out of the Nook top case at the top for clearance,
run the wires inside the Nook and glue a tiny box on top.
I haven't checked that connector to see if there were any UART control lines or GPIO on it.
That would be the nice way to control the power mode of the GPS.
Just a quick one to say watch out on Sygic. It's a great and slick program and downloading new maps is easy. But it's made plenty of my phones run hot; it's CPU intensive probably and a battery drainer. Q: What's a battery efficient mapping app?
RMaps: Very probably light. I don't think it's very slick.
There's an app for OS maps in the UK offline: You can then preload the >8gb of maps to get full UK, very nice maps. Probably the best option. I think you have to pay for the Android app though... don't know how that would work... don't know if it's supported on Nook
iGO, TomTom: Also sounding CPU intensive. It seems vector and nav capabilities are what make these things battery draining. Stick to raster maps? (images rather than route calculable vectors)
It's been a long while but no news on this for ages.
The earl is still not out. It's also expensive.
This hack is pretty cool. The USB option is the easiest... but we can't have a USB cable hanging out the bottom, ready to rip off the mainboard rendering the whole thing useless.
So I prefer the option of soldering directly onto that UART with the GPS module.
yegoshin, what did you use to get the voltage right?
There's lots of info in the comments here:
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11571
But while I understand a lot of this I'm not used to this level of project. If someone has already figured it out though with that voltage adapter, I can give that a go.
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yegoshin, what did you use to get the voltage right?
There's lots of info in the comments here:
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11571
But while I understand a lot of this I'm not used to this level of project. If someone has already figured it out though with that voltage adapter, I can give that a go.
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So you can use the direct battery voltage from the nook for the VCC, you can also use pin 1 off U2713 (however I have recently run into what seems a lack of current through that - GPS doesn't lock until I plug in a USB power really weird, no problems off the Battery though pink wire is the VCC)
Now for the V_BAT I was able to wire up this board to the nook battery https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10995 and pull 1.8Volts off that. However that board has ALOT of excess parts (its meant to be used with this GPS, which I think may work even better for the nook since the on-off can be done via that breakout board) I may look into getting a custom board stuffed.
If you happen to be near Bay Area CA, I can help you out.
Woah, I didn't know about this tiny 1.8V logic GP-2106: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10890
You don't need any level conversion, ttyS0 (UART1) is all 1.8V logic.
(You'd need to make sure that you aren't using ttyS0 for the console.)
You can grab one of the JTAG signals (also 1.8V) for the on/off control.
See the pinout here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49931617#post49931617
You could 3D print a tiny housing and mount it on top of the bezel right over the "nook" at the top.
Something to look out for is that 5 second, 50 mA anomaly that we haven't chased down yet.
The power consumption will kill you.
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Hi guys,
Just come back off a hiking holiday, and have been looking into using the NST as a low power, eink gps for UK OS maps etc.
Your prototype here looks spot on!
How far did you get with this - any guides etc?
Also, if someone felt like making these, 3d printing a new, deeper back case for all the extra electronics - i'm sure you'd have a nice lot of customers !
(NB looked at your pics of soldering direct onto the serial connectors internally... Woah! Bit beyond my soldering skills there!)
Good luck, would love to hear updates...