Hey yall i'm using a nexus 4 running cyanogenmod RC with setcpu on and franco Kernel.
Does my phone still throttle its cpu speeds when it gets to a certain temperature? Like on stock nexus 4.
I have done alot of research but i cant find an answer to this question. Also i am asking this question because i dont want to overheat my phone and kill its battery.
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Franco kernel throttle CPU when it reaches 70c by default
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Just flash rasbeanjelly + Trinity all heating issue just go away for sure.
In Trinity I find colour are faded so you can try different kernel .
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Ok and ok but I think I'm through flashing stuff lol except for an update.
Anyway what temp does the stock nexus 4 throttle? Because 70 degrees Celsius is to hot for a phone, even most laptops cant handle that temp.
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Not sure what temp stock kernel starts to throttle but if it reaches 80c it will power off to protect it. It is very hard for you to reach that temp though
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K, you have an recommendation of what is a good temp to throttle my nexus 4 at that wont allow the heat to damage the battery or phone?
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70c is hot but not too hot, 90c is a bit closer. I believe the auto power down is somewhere between 90-100c. The chances of your phone but ing damaged by the cpu or battery being too hot is pretty much nil. Don't worry about it and just use your phone. If it's actually in danger of frying the chip or the battery, it'll shut itself down.
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JayMix said:
K, you have an recommendation of what is a good temp to throttle my nexus 4 at that wont allow the heat to damage the battery or phone?
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If it really bothers you, set the throttle at whatever temp makes you paranoid. There's nothing to freak out about.
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I'm running smoothrom 4.0 with bricked kernel.
My nexus 7 goes to 100° when I play subway surfers.
Is this normal?
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mk92595 said:
I'm running smoothrom 4.0 with bricked kernel.
My nexus 7 goes to 100° when I play subway surfers.
Is this normal?
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Sounds like you can boil water with your Nexus 7. IDK about the N7, but for laptops, you don't want it that high. 80C is the hottest my laptop gets when I overclock it.
Mine is in 100°F. It is about 40-45°C
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I'm running smoothrom 4.0 with bricked kernel.
My nexus 7 goes to 100° when I play subway surfers.
Is this normal?
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you are looking at the battery temperature(100F). the human body averages 98.6 degrees, higher with a fever. do you really think its too hot, lol. if your cpu temp hits 100C, your devices safety would kick in and shutdown/reboot the device. and there arent many cpu temp apps . most likely yourre looking at your battery temp. btw, 100C is 212F(the boiling point of water).
Being a tech nerd has the great side effect of teaching you the metric system by proxy. :laugh:
System tuner will give you the CPU temp
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icytrey said:
System tuner will give you the CPU temp
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as will tkt(trinity kernel toolbox) and anfo.
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I'm running smoothrom 4.0 with bricked kernel.
My nexus 7 goes to 100° when I play subway surfers.
Is this normal?
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Where is the units?
Will the next nexus have a longer screen?
The CPU temperatures usually reach 130°F on my GS3. I'm sure your N7 will be ok
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You have to do something to reduce the temperature. For me its quite over temperature
My nexus 7 gets too about 50°C (122F) while gaming on a regular basis.
That's way too hot... Your chip shouldn't be able to boil water. Lol. Depending on what kernel you use there may or may not be thermal throttling. But in any case, I would caution to say that's not good for your device.
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necropuppy said:
That's way too hot... Your chip shouldn't be able to boil water. Lol. Depending on what kernel you use there may or may not be thermal throttling. But in any case, I would caution to say that's not good for your device.
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the op was talking about 100F, not 100C. at 100C is the nexus 7 automatic shutdown temp. 100F is slightly warmer than body temp(98.6F).
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the op was talking about 100F, not 100C. at 100C is the nexus 7 automatic shutdown temp. 100F is slightly warmer than body temp(98.6F).
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Yikes. I see that now. My bad. That's definitely fine then.
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Hello so I bought my N4 on the Dec 3 batch and got it around Feb, the works fine and all but I have 2 main questions
1. The phone gets hot doing simple tasks like browsing the web or watching a youtube video. I am running the CM 10.1 Nightlies and Franco's Kernel r110. Sometimes the phone can get really hot which I then stop using it to prevent any damage. Does this have anything to do with the Custom ROM or kernel because my friend's N4 is stock and unrooted and hes doesn't have any heat issues.
2. The battery on the phone is not what I expected. I hear people who get 4-5 hours on screen time, but I get around 2-2.5. Also I am on a Canadian provider which is Mobilicity if that has anything to do with it. I leave 3G on mostly and just surf the web when the screen is on.
Thanks for any input you guys leave.
If you can take it back to stock and don't root because that is why your friend's N4 is normal besides what more do you want that the N4 doesn't have?
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I like the root features and also cm 10.1 if its the ROM that's making it overheat then I know to change or find a better one
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Hi,
As always "overheating" is very subjective, it depends on how you feel the heat.
CPU / battery temperature?
In any case there is a protection, a thermal throttling. At certain CPU / battery temperatures the CPU frequence is automatically lowered to help reduce the temperature. In extreme temperature the phone shutdown to avoid damages so no worries.
In 3G the phone heated a little more, no problem here that the phone heats up when you re browsing or you're watching a video on Youtube.
You can try to undervolt a little to see if that helps.
As for battery life it depends on too many factors... CPU settings, screen brightness, signal quality, etc...
Search about your questions in this section or in the General section, there are lots of threads about it.
What temperature does your phone actually get? When running stock it would be impossible to see my phone get other 43c and that was only under very heavy gaming but would usually be at 32-36c ive noticed my phone does get hotter when using mobile data instead of wifi. Now running rasbean with franco m1 and temps abit lower gaming has improved greatly but i dont think there is any difference in battery life compared to stock but your 2-2.5 screen time does seem abit low as i get with just web browsing maybe few youtube vids and few minutes of games around 4 hours screen time but i also envy those who are getting 5+ hours
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Forgot to mention thats 4 hours on wifi on mobile internet i should be able 2 get over 3 hours
The phone gets hot very easily in my opinion idk the exact temp but I have the ringke slim on it and its definitely noticeable from the top of the phone to the bottom. Also does my carrier have anything to do with it because brightness on my phone is pretty low and simple stuff tends to drain my battery.
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The phone gets hot very easily in my opinion idk the exact temp but I have the ringke slim on it and its definitely noticeable from the top of the phone to the bottom. Also does my carrier have anything to do with it because brightness on my phone is pretty low and simple stuff tends to drain my battery.
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When i was using a case on my phone it was getting hot from top to bottom but now i don't use case it doesn't get as hot and usually stays cooler at bottom half. I have found most accurate way to check your battery temp is by going on call and dialling *#*#4636#*#* and a hidden menu will come up and tap battery information you will see temp, there was an app that had same info but cant remember name so when you think its hot dial that code and let me know what temp it shows. Also are you using mobile internet or wifi when its getting hot?
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I think it usually gets hot when using 3G so I'm assuming mobilicity isn't that good for this phone? Also I can clearly tell its the top part that is hot when the case is on
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Yep mine also gets noticeably hotter on 3g and yeah it gets hot at the top but after a while will spread to bottom to thats normal. I am currently running rasbean rom with franco milestone 1 and also downloaded pimp my rom from play it has various tweaks and mods so i just flashed battery saving which supposed to help with battery not sure what it does though lol but i managed to get 3 hours 40 mins screen time half of time it was on minimum brightness and other half on 40% was just internet browsing and im sure you will agree that is very good considering i was using 3g the whole time
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Just an update you should try undervolting on franco as i have now done it and it definitely helps with heating and i am pretty sure it has vastly improved my battery life if your interested i will post the values i have used which seems to be perfectly stable so far
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Yes please, do I need any app for this or can I just do it in the settings?
do you have the franco app? As that was what i used to change my setting if yes just go on frequencies/voltages go down to voltages and change from there i have attached screenshot of my setting and make you do not set voltages on boot as if it is unstable your phone is not going to boot up if that is ticked, you will have to change that everytime you reboot until you are sure its stable then u can set on boot
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Do you have a bad signal? Because if so then that will drain your battery a lot more quickly and also possibly make the phone heat up more.
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Do you have a bad signal? Because if so then that will drain your battery a lot more quickly and also possibly make the phone heat up more.
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Mine idles at 55 degree Celsius and throttles at 60 so there isn't much room to go. I can increase the throttle temp but was wondering if that's safe and how much heat can nexus 4 handle
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The CPU will run fine up to 100°C at which point the phone will shut down to prevent damage.
The battery will run fine up to 60°C at which point the phone will shut down to prevent damage.
The CPU will throttle default at 60°C which to me is a little low.
The battery will run fine up to 48°C at which point it will report it's status as overheated and throttle.
I have my CPU throttle at 75 and have been fine for months. I would advise not raising the bar too high because I'd say you up it to 90. All that you will accomplish is raising the battery temp quicker and thus still end up throttling.
The battery temp is generally the heat that you feel coming through the phone. So by making the battery heat up quicker by upping the CPU throttle threshold. Your device will become hotter to the touch quicker.
There is a balance between the 2 which I feel Google got wrong by setting the CPU threshold at 60. I would advise 70-75 but that Is purely my preference.
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So the phone will run fun until battery is 48 or 60? I think 48, 60 seems too hot
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It will throttle at 48. It will shut down at 60
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Sorry I'm slow. Free Thanks for all
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I can't hold it its too hot srsly last version was better now it worse 39.0°
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Typo? 39 degrees is only just above body temp?
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Typo? 39 degrees is only just above body temp?
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Well now its 41° , the touch screen is hot
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Well now its 41° , the touch screen is hot
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? Dude you have problems lol my battery gets to be around 45c and CPU much higher.
Not even hot. Get a case.
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You must be looking at the battery temperature.
Use system tuner or something to check the actual CPU temp.
If it's hot when phone is supposed to be idling or doing simple tasks you must have a run away app or something causing it.
Also check you haven't left the governor set to performance or anything like that.
Hello
It seems to me that the temperature of my nexus 4 is way too hot.
80 ° C + as CPU temperature and over 45°C on Batterytemp is not normal right?
I have also tried different kernels and also re-flashed the whole System different times but no change.
What to do now?
Apps that ran when it was so hot:
-GMD Autohide Softkeys
-Google Chrome
-Facebook Messenger
Nexus 4 Stock 4.4.2 rooted
If its staying permanently at them temperatures then that's not good.
The phone should shut down when it gets to 50°c.
Using the phone whilst charging will increase the temp significantly.
Most kernels have thermal throttling which will reduce the CPU usage to help bring the temp down when it reaches a certain temp and increase as the temp rises.
If its always hitting them temperatures whilst in use it's a problem. If its only occasional then that probably normal.
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If its staying permanently at them temperatures then that's not good.
The phone should shut down when it gets to 50°c.
Using the phone whilst charging will increase the temp significantly.
Most kernels have thermal throttling which will reduce the CPU usage to help bring the temp down when it reaches a certain temp and increase as the temp rises.
If its always hitting them temperatures whilst in use it's a problem. If its only occasional then that probably normal.
Mine usually sits between 27°c and 37°c if that helps.
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