Hi,
I just rooted and installed custom ROM (WanamLite) and entered download mode and i don't see the custom binary download counter.
Samsung removed the flash counter or it's hidden somewhere?
Svid said:
Hi,
I just rooted and installed custom ROM (WanamLite) and entered download mode and i don't see the custom binary download counter.
Samsung removed the flash counter or it's hidden somewhere?
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I noticed this the other day too when I entered Download Mode...
It's there, but it's hidden
It's definitely there. There is no counter on the I9505 download screen either (just 'custom') but Triangle Away picks it up and resets it. It's currently not compatible with the I9500 but I'm sure Chainfire will soon rectify that.
Pagnell said:
It's definitely there. There is no counter on the I9505 download screen either (just 'custom') but Triangle Away picks it up and resets it. It's currently not compatible with the I9500 but I'm sure Chainfire will soon rectify that.
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Well i hope so
Yes, it's there, just not shown in Download Mode anymore. The partition the counter is stored at didn't change on the qualcomm devices since the note2 but it probably did on the Exynos version. That's why TA isn't compatible with your device yet. You will have to wait for an update from Chainfire.
An OTP area also has been added to the Exynos SOC called monotonic counter in order to have an equivalent to qualcomm's QFuses. I haven't seen it used for download counters so far, it can however be used to prevent bootloader downgrades, in case they want to add extra security against Triangle Away.
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mathieulh said:
Yes, it's there, just not shown in Download Mode anymore. The partition the counter is stored at didn't change on the qualcomm devices since the note2 but it probably did on the Exynos version. That's why TA isn't compatible with your device yet. You will have to wait for an update from Chainfire.
An OTP area also has been added to the Exynos SOC called monotonic counter in order to have an equivalent to qualcomm's QFuses. I haven't seen it used for download counters so far, it can however be used to prevent bootloader downgrades, in case they want to add extra security against Triangle Away.
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So we cannot physicly see the amount of flashes right?
Related
Hello everyone,
Today I have root my i9500 today through this topic http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/4...exynos5-root-android422-xxuamde-jellybean.htm
I did this because I want to flash to another country firmware. So I root the phone and I flash it back to an official firmware. When I go to Dowload Mode to check the binary counter status, I see this :
Current binary: samsung official
System status: official
how is it possible? I thought that when we root the device once, the counter is not zero anymore, do I miss something? Is there somewhere else that showing Binary Counter? Could the Current binary be official even if the counter is not zero?
Can we reset the binary counter with Triangle Away for the i9500? People report that it works for i9505, but does someone try if it works for i9500?
Thank you in advance.
I think binary counter increases when we use twrp or cwm
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Hello everyone,
Today I have root my i9500 today through this topic http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/4...exynos5-root-android422-xxuamde-jellybean.htm
I did this because I want to flash to another country firmware. So I root the phone and I flash it back to an official firmware. When I go to Dowload Mode to check the binary counter status, I see this :
Current binary: samsung official
System status: official
how is it possible? I thought that when we root the device once, the counter is not zero anymore, do I miss something? Is there somewhere else that showing Binary Counter? Could the Current binary be official even if the counter is not zero?
Can we reset the binary counter with Triangle Away for the i9500? People report that it works for i9505, but does someone try if it works for i9500?
Thank you in advance.
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Triangle Away only works on the I9505 atm unfortunately.
Zahid Ali said:
I think binary counter increases when we use twrp or cwm
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Thank you for your answer. Sorry for my noobiness, but I don't know what is twrp. So clearly, does my counter increase or not? If i send my phone to samsung, will they notify that I have already root once my phone? Thank you in advance
Zahid Ali said:
I think binary counter increases when we use twrp or cwm
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It will always say 1 after each reboot if you have custom recovery, even if you could reset the counter to 0.
gee2012 said:
It will always say 1 after each reboot if you have custom recovery, even if you could reset the counter to 0.
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So you mean that my counter is zero now, since my binary status is samsung official?
Madawcisrich said:
So you mean that my counter is zero now, since my binary status is samsung official?
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No, it is most probably 1. Most servicecenters however rarely check the counter. I once turned in a rooted S2 with a custom rom on it and it got fixed under warranty. They wipe it and reflash a stock rom after repair.
binary counter is hidden in s4
you do not need to root for flashing official firmware!
samersh72 said:
binary counter is hidden in s4
you do not need to root for flashing official firmware!
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Correct, didn`t know that. First time on a Samsung device
Does the counter show up in Triangle Away on the I9505?
samersh72 said:
binary counter is hidden in s4
you do not need to root for flashing official firmware!
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ha, didn't know that. So according to you, will I have some problem if I return the phone to Samsung?
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ha, didn't know that. So according to you, will I have some problem if I return the phone to Samsung?
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flashing unsigned stuff by samsung (cwm, rom..) via odin only, turn your status to custom and increase binary counter. i see that your status is official. but i think you dont have 0 count since when you rooted your phone you used odin.
if samsung look at your counter, so there is a problem
samersh72 said:
flashing unsigned stuff by samsung (cwm, rom..) via odin only, turn your status to custom and increase binary counter. i see that your status is official. but i think you dont have 0 count since when you rooted your phone you used odin.
if samsung look at your counter, so there is a problem
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So at the moment there is no solution for the i9500 to reset the counter to 0, right?
Madawcisrich said:
So at the moment there is no solution for the i9500 to reset the counter to 0, right?
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not by using triangle away (waiting CF for solution). but i dont know if there is other solution. search
Hello everyone,
I have Galaxy S4 GT-I9505 and using CyanogenMod's installer version a few months now.
CyanogenMod's installer has A LOT of problems and I had enough of it and want to go back to stock.
Before I moved to CM I had 4.3 and also Knox bootloader so it went to 0x1 after CM's installation.
I want to ask can I go to stock 4.3 even that my Knox is 0x1?
Do I need to use TriangleAway? If so, how?
I understood that TriangleAway requires Samsung's official kernel but I have the kernel of CM now.
Anyway, what do I need to do?
Thanks in advance
Meyhemg said:
Hello everyone,
I have Galaxy S4 GT-I9505 and using CyanogenMod's installer version a few months now.
CyanogenMod's installer has A LOT of problems and I had enough of it and want to go back to stock.
Before I moved to CM I had 4.3 and also Knox bootloader so it went to 0x1 after CM's installation.
I want to ask can I go to stock 4.3 even that my Knox is 0x1?
Do I need to use TriangleAway? If so, how?
I understood that TriangleAway requires Samsung's official kernel but I have the kernel of CM now.
Anyway, what do I need to do?
Thanks in advance
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Find your stock rom specifically the one that is your region. If your phone is for example like mine, i9500 XSE which is the first three letters of Indonesia then get that specific stock file.
It's probably around 1.4 gigs. It downloads very slow. After that open Odin flash the stock rom, and your good to go. I've bricked numerous times and all I've done was revert back like this. No problems.
I don't know if you can put the stock rom in your custom recovery and flash it there, I haven't tried it yet just run Odin in administrator mode, insert the stock rom, go into download mode on your phone by pressing - vol and power, then click start.
Wait.
Stock.
Done,
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Drasztic said:
Find your stock rom specifically the one that is your region. If your phone is for example like mine, i9500 XSE which is the first three letters of Indonesia then get that specific stock file.
It's probably around 1.4 gigs. It downloads very slow. After that open Odin flash the stock rom, and your good to go. I've bricked numerous times and all I've done was revert back like this. No problems.
I don't know if you can put the stock rom in your custom recovery and flash it there, I haven't tried it yet just run Odin in administrator mode, insert the stock rom, go into download mode on your phone by pressing - vol and power, then click start.
Wait.
Stock.
Done,
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Thanks, but don't I need to use TriangleAway to reset binary counter so that I'll be able to receive future updates from Samsung?
Meyhemg said:
Thanks, but don't I need to use TriangleAway to reset binary counter so that I'll be able to receive future updates from Samsung?
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I may be wrong on this one but, if you use the auto CF root method I don't think there's a way to use the triangle method.
Therefore you're stuck on Knox. I could be wrong but I'm leaning on 70% being right..
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Meyhemg said:
Thanks, but don't I need to use TriangleAway to reset binary counter so that I'll be able to receive future updates from Samsung?
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I guess the binary counter is hidden somewhere. And for updates you can get OTA kies updates if you are havin stock recovery. One last thing Triangle away doesnt supports I9500.
All the best.
Mandark52 said:
I guess the binary counter is hidden somewhere. And for updates you can get OTA kies updates if you are havin stock recovery. One last thing Triangle away doesnt supports I9500.
All the best.
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Thanks.
I installed stock BTU and now my device status shows "Official" and also in download mode, without using TriangleAway.
Also, Kies works with my device again and recognizes it.
Meyhemg said:
Thanks.
I installed stock BTU and now my device status shows "Official" and also in download mode, without using TriangleAway.
Also, Kies works with my device again and recognizes it.
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Yes it says official but your knox counter might be already 0x01. If so, you won't be able to update your device via Kies anymore. You can always download the updates anyway.
cheers ~
deandoi said:
Yes it says official but your knox counter might be already 0x01. If so, you won't be able to update your device via Kies anymore. You can always download the updates anyway.
cheers ~
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But when I connect my phone to Kies it does recognize my phone and says I have the latest firmware and it doesn't shoe any sign that I won't be able to update through it.
I think you're mistaken with the binary counter. If the binary counter wasn't 0 and showed custom in download mode and settings only then I couldn't update via Kies.
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Yes it says official but your knox counter might be already 0x01. If so, you won't be able to update your device via Kies anymore. You can always download the updates anyway.
cheers ~
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If you have a custom recovery then you wont be able to update via Kies or OTA.
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Meyhemg said:
But when I connect my phone to Kies it does recognize my phone and says I have the latest firmware and it doesn't shoe any sign that I won't be able to update through it.
I think you're mistaken with the binary counter. If the binary counter wasn't 0 and showed custom in download mode and settings only then I couldn't update via Kies.
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Oh yeah. My mistake.
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deandoi said:
Oh yeah. My mistake.
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PHEW. I thought it's the end of updates for my device.
What I did understand is that I won't be able to use Knox app on the phone. right?
Meyhemg said:
PHEW. I thought it's the end of updates for my device.
What I did understand is that I won't be able to use Knox app on the phone. right?
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Yep. You won't be able to use them. I disable them anyway.
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Hi guys
I have a i337m from Tigo Colombia and I were looking for a way to install CM11 in it no matter if warranty was voided
In the process I found out that after installing CM11 my knox warranty void still is 0x0. I don't know if this is true for all i337m or I was lucky somehow, anyway here are the steps I made for having CM11:
1. Root with towel root
- Go to www.towelroot.com
- Click the lambda symbol
- Install the apk
- Click "Make it ra1n"
- Now you're rooted. Check looking for SuperSU app and update it
2. Install Recovery: I tried to install CWM from .img with heimdall in Linux and with proper file in Odin in Windows, both cases failed as you can see here [1], looking for answers I end up installing ROM Manager app.
- Install ROM Manager app from Google Play
- Run the app / give root permissions
- Click on install new recovery and select jfltecan (I first installed normal recovery, after donate for get the touch one and support the devs). I selected ClockWorkMod 3.x (the version of CWM installed is 6.0.4.7)
- Reboot to recovery from app and made a Nandroid to starting to mess with the device
Entering to recovery I see: RECOVERY IS NOT SEANDROID ENFORCING
After reboot I see a message in red that says: KERNERL IS NOT SEANDROID ENFORCING
And when I went to download mode I see this:
Code:
Product name: SGH-I227M
Current Binary: Samsung Official
System Status: Official
Knox Kernel Lock: 0x0
Knox Warranty Void: 0x0
CSB-Config-LSB: 0x30
Write Protection: Enable
eMMC Burst Mode: enabled
And attached you can find the pictures that probe it
I hope this can help anyone that wants to get custom ROMs on his/her i337M
[1] http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/help/s4-i337m-help-installing-custom-recovery-t2887774
Good guide.
I must admit I didn't read the m after your i337 and got slightly excited.
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kirbee213 said:
Good guide.
I must admit I didn't read the m after your i337 and got slightly excited.
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Sorry for the false alarm, maybe this works for AT&T variation as well but I need more info from i337M owners to see if this can be considered as a guide or just my particular experience
Will this method work on a Candian Model? Our S4 model is also i337m, anyone from canada tried this? I don't want to trip my know counter cause i just got my phone
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Will this method work on a Candian Model? Our S4 model is also i337m, anyone from canada tried this? I don't want to trip my know counter cause i just got my phone
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I think we import Canadian models so this should work. Anyway I'm wondering if I just have luck or really is a way to achieve flashing custom ROM's without trip the warranty void counter or if our model just don't trigger the counter at all
You can trigger it. I have i337m and my Knox flag is tripped. Custom Roms now tho
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Psykologikal said:
You can trigger it. I have i337m and my Knox flag is tripped. Custom Roms now tho
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Then I was lucky or this can be a method to avoid trigger the counter. As you see in the pictures of OP, I have CWM, CM11 flashed and 0x0 (Official Samsung software appears there on download mode too).
As I know it is impossible to revert a tripped knox on an i9500 ...
But Today I switched to Note Edge, and I will hand over S4 i9500 to one of my family members so I just flashed I9500UBUGNJ1_I9500UUBGNJ1_I9500UBUGNJ1_HOME.tar.md 5 via odin..
And what i see now on the download mode is Knox Warranty Void : 0
I have rooted and installed unlimited number of custom roms. Is it really what I am thinking? My knox counter really reset itself?
If yes, how is it possible?
Are you sure that it says knox 0x0? otherwise i'll call an exorcist because it's impossible.
Rare.
If this attachment tells it is knox 0x0...
After the firmware flash which I have mentioned in the first post, my phone is back in warranty again...
weird.. exorcism...
is it reality or just time pass?
this is real.
I couldn't beleive that's why I have posted it...
I bought the phone when it was famous.. there were like tens of roms weekly.. I have started with Wanam and a lot of others.. perseus kernel etc.. basically there is no way that the knox was not tripped...
before last flash, I had one of omega roms with omega kernel (SELinux = permissive).. then I have flashed the rom in the first thread without any special action.
and magically it is knox = 0 again
gurc4n said:
As I know it is impossible to revert a tripped knox on an i9500 ...
But Today I switched to Note Edge, and I will hand over S4 i9500 to one of my family members so I just flashed I9500UBUGNJ1_I9500UUBGNJ1_I9500UBUGNJ1_HOME.tar.md 5 via odin..
And what i see now on the download mode is Knox Warranty Void : 0
I have rooted and installed unlimited number of custom roms. Is it really what I am thinking? My knox counter really reset itself?
If yes, how is it possible?
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The rom you flashed it's kitkat. Maybe it has updated the bootloader and... voila. Who knows?!
After flashing official lollipop via ODIN from sammobile knox warranty changed from 0x1 -> 0
And rooting again changed knox from 0 -> 1
Reflashing again via odin knox remained 1 only.
Wierd...
May someone of you try downgrading and then upgrading and see if it untripps?
Excuse me for my horrible English.
I read 2 weeks ago,that is possible to reset the knox counter on the s4 exynox processor model because the KNOX Flag is on the emmc (Flash card) Maybe this on its possible to reset it.
By flash a new rom most files get erased and new one get rewriting.
On the Snapdragon S4 the Knox Flag is standing in a area of the processor.
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There is a .TAR file reportedly on XDA in the Note 3 forums that when flashed through Odin resets the bit for the Note 3. However, whether that actually is the case is a matter of speculation. I saw a video showing it in action, but take the video with a grain of salt.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
There is a .TAR file reportedly on XDA in the Note 3 forums that when flashed through Odin resets the bit for the Note 3. However, whether that actually is the case is a matter of speculation. I saw a video showing it in action, but take the video with a grain of salt.
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Are you talking about the Exynos Note 3?, this S4 version that this man was talking has a Exynos processor too. It seems that it is writiable.
gurc4n said:
If this attachment tells it is knox 0x0...
After the firmware flash which I have mentioned in the first post, my phone is back in warranty again...
weird.. exorcism...
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Can't see anywhere that you had 0x1 before. You only show what state is after flash NJ1.
Custom ROM, kernel or recovery don't update/downgrade bootloader where Knox is based and should not trip anything but possible flash counter.
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Are you talking about the Exynos Note 3?, this S4 version that this man was talking has a Exynos processor too. It seems that it is writiable.
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Yeah, I was talking about the Exynos version. There's people who dispute whether it works or not, despite a YouTube video showing it in action.
Shouldn't knox be '0x0' instead of '0'?
SuperThomasLab said:
Shouldn't knox be '0x0' instead of '0'?
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Certainly a 0 or a 1 on Lollipop now, so it changed over at some point.
Hawke84 said:
Lots of work went I to finding a solution on S4 when knox first came out including by chainfire with no luck. Also since october people have been trying to root note 4 without tripping knox with no luck.
There is no difference in the system of tripped and not tripped. Soon as anything unsigned or insecure is flashed the bootloader burns the efuse
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As you can see my idea was a bust but here is the original op
Okay, Lets try this here because nobody seems interested in helping in the T-Mobile section.
ThePagel said:
Correct me if I am wrong here, the reason knox is being tripped by cf auto root is because of the way it acquirers root not because it is rooted. With that in mind I would Like to make a tar ball with a pre rooted system.img. To make sure it will have the best possibility to not trip knox and not cause a soft brick I want to use a system dump from a running phone that has only been rooted. I am pretty sure this has worked on every galaxy phone before the s6 and the only reason you don't hear more about it recently is because of the success of towelroot. I am getting this phone on the 1st (so excited) and would like root but want to try samsung pay more.
If you are willing to help I need the following:
Be on a 100% stock samsung bloated system with root (absolutely no tweaked systems I need pure stock with root)
Install supersu into /system (supersu settings)
Make a system.img dump with adb or terminal emulator and upload it for me (as long as you do not dump the data partition no personal data will be dumped)
At this point I will make the tarball and upload it and have the person who made the system dump flash the tarball. If he/she boots up fine I will the need a volunteer who has not rooted and verified that knox has not been tripped on his/her phone to flash it and see if knox still has its warranty. Obviously the volunteer should go into this not caring if knox gets tripped.
To make things completely clear I need the following:
Somebody who knows how to dump with adb/terminal emulator and already rooted
Somebody without a tripped knox warranty who doesn't care if it gets tripped
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As soon as you flash an unsigned image Knox is going to be tripped.
Lots of work went I to finding a solution on S4 when knox first came out including by chainfire with no luck. Also since october people have been trying to root note 4 without tripping knox with no luck.
There is no difference in the system of tripped and not tripped. Soon as anything unsigned or insecure is flashed the bootloader burns the efuse
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Drumrocker said:
As soon as you flash an unsigned image Knox is going to be tripped.
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^^^ This, unfortunately, ends the discussion altogether.
Drumrocker said:
As soon as you flash an unsigned image Knox is going to be tripped.
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Hawke84 said:
Lots of work went I to finding a solution on S4 when knox first came out including by chainfire with no luck. Also since october people have been trying to root note 4 without tripping knox with no luck.
There is no difference in the system of tripped and not tripped. Soon as anything unsigned or insecure is flashed the bootloader burns the efuse
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^^^ This, unfortunately, ends the discussion altogether.
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Indeed now I get closure, thank you.
So how does safestrap work?
lowspeed said:
So how does safestrap work?
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Doesn't matter in this instance because you need root to use safestrap. He is pretty open on how safestrap works if you look at his threads and website.
Sorry guys, which signature needs to be applied? I found a guide to sign Windows modded drivers, I don't know if this can be applied here, too...
The real trick is getting it signed. There might be no easy way to do that unless the key method can be replicated to make signed binaries. This could be a samsung proprietery tool. That said I did find an interesting nugget of info hxxp://galaxys4root.com/what-is-binary-counter/ in the comments section.
HI,
I flashed pre rooted firmware 4.2.2 using ODIN on my Samsung I-9500 4.2.2. Then the status is remain same
Binary : Samsung Official
System : Official.
Then I installed Wanam apk to modify the UI, It asked me to download Xposed framework I grant Super user permission. Once It completed I checked the status
Binary : Samsung Official
System : Custom.
I flashed stock firmware 4.2.2 and did the reset factory reset. Then it changed to
Binary : Samsung Official
System : Official.
My question, Is the hidden binary count or knox counter triggered or not ?
If I updated to stock 4.3 Is the Knox Warranty bit 0×0 or 0×1 ?
Please help me.
The rooted aspect only seems to be possible provided nothing in the UI itself is changed? There is a trigger file in the rom. Something that obviously a Wanam install triggers. All that seems to indicate that it might actually be possible to have a pre-rooted rom and install via recovery. But considering the phone model referenced, its possible this particular workaround has been plugged. On the off chance that it has not. It might be the only viable way to do root without tripping knox. I imagine the existing stock roms with root preloaded however trip knox (I saw no indication of that in posts but I did not dig that deep).
If anyone can answer that in the affirmative or negative it might be worth noting. Will knox get tripped on a stock (but pre-rooted) rom?
The point of this thread is to point out something we already know and have known for some time? WTF
shollywood said:
The point of this thread is to point out something we already know and have known for some time? WTF
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I don't think the OP was aware of all the information when he started the thread. I think the thread title has since been changed.
But yeah, i guess the thread could be closed.