Was thinking about buying a third party backup app like Helium or some other, but I was wondering if it is really necessary. In System Settings/Accounts/Backup and reset, I have the "Backup my data" and the "Automatic Restore" boxes enabled. If I do a factory data reset, is this sufficient to restore my phone to the state it was in, with all data, apps & app settings, and system settings restored, or do I need a third party app in order to get a complete restore? If I do install a third party app, is it advisable to uncheck the backup/restore boxes in system settings, or leave them checked? Thanks.
Related
My typical app library is not all that extensive. However, since I find myself constantly jumping ROM's (damn you Dungphp! ), it's becoming a pain to reinstall all the apps. So I installed Titanium Backup, and ran the batch – “Backup all user apps + system data”. Is the system data only the data for the apps Titanium backs-up? Any recommendations on how to best utilize this app, as all I need to do is backup and then restore my apps – preferably with the settings intact?
Thx
Don't backup system data, you are inviting trouble ! Only backup user apps+data, then once you are on a new ROM just restore them. Restoring system apps causes conflicts and all kinds of timewasting fiddling with settings.
danm200 said:
Don't backup system data, you are inviting trouble ! Only backup user apps+data, then once you are on a new ROM just restore them. Restoring system apps causes conflicts and all kinds of timewasting fiddling with settings.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the reply. Although Apps+Data is not an option. And I am only talking about User Apps - not System apps. My options are: Backup all user apps; Back all system data; Backup all user apps + system data; Forced redo of you backups; Redo your old; Redo backs for modified data…
So then should I just select Backup all user apps? Will that keep my settings intact within those apps?
cmajewsk said:
Thanks for the reply. Although Apps+Data is not an option. And I am only talking about User Apps - not System apps. My options are: Backup all user apps; Back all system data; Backup all user apps + system data; Forced redo of you backups; Redo your old; Redo backs for modified data…
So then should I just select Backup all user apps? Will that keep my settings intact within those apps?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
You are fine to backup "ALL USER APPS",and then you can restore these in new ROMS.
On the backup/restore page,use the "batch" backup.
DO NOT restore "SYSTEM DATA" on new ROMS,as danm200 mentioned.This will cause problems and conflicts!
Is there a settings that will only back up the apps + data that only you have backed up?
When going to an updated version of a ROM and needing to do a full wipe, what should i and shouldn't i be backing up and restoring? Can somebody give a run down of what options to select when doing the backup? And is there a way to have everything auto restore instead of having to select install for every app and then done?
Titanium Backup does everything good by default. You simply select Batch Backup/Restore, press "Backup all user apps" and wait till it ends. When you need to restore, you go there again but choose "restore all missing apps with data". If you don't want to select every app you need to buy Titanium Backup key in the market. After that it will not ask you to press install button everytime. And about what you should or shouldn't backup: if you really need to do a full wipe it's better to backup only your apps and forget about system data cause you can get a lot of headache after restoring everything.
Backup only user apps, not system apps.
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium
Some roms require a full wipe/factory reset before installing. Of course that will delete all apps including the one that I bought. Do I need to buy them again?
Also, will the 'titanium backup' backups the homescreen settings (i.e., the app shortcuts created on main screen)?
Your apps are attached to your gmail account, as long as you sign in on your device with the same account after flashing/wiping, you can redownload the paid apps.
Titanium backup by default will not backup homescreen settings, but if you manually backup the launcher and its data then it can restore the settings.
Sent from Sheogorath with cheese.
Yeap once you buy your apps, they're yours for good. You can sign in a whole different device and your apps in the play store still belong to you, you just open the playstore and click on the lil arrow thing up at the top for the "My Apps" page. It will open to your installed apps and if you swipe to view the page to the right it shows all apps, which includes any app you previously downloaded but isn't installed.
And also when you wipe data and install a new rom, It will have you sign into your google account in the setup process right after the wifi connection screen. Once setup is complete and you're all booted up, if you just leave the tablet alone and let it settle a few minutes, it's going to automatically install all the apps you had installed on your last rom from the play store, unless you've changed the default backup/restore settings.
Make sure with titanium backup, you NEVER install system apps, which are the red ones. You can set the filter to User apps only before backing up your apps. Then you'll load the rom and complete the setup and let it settle while it installs all the apps it's going to from the play store. Then you can just batch restore any missing apps. I would batch restore the apps only, and then go back and restore only the app data that you actually need. For instance you may want to restore a game with a thousand levels of progress, but don't restore app data just to keep from typing a username and password into an app one time which takes about four seconds.
I help a lot of new guys get started wiping, installing roms, and setting up and try to teach them along the way. I let them learn instead of doing it for them. Here's what I've found to be the best way to learn.
Make a nandroid backup of current setup. Then wipe data, cache, dalvic cache, and system, install the rom and gapps, and reboot and setup. Once it's setup let it settle in and sync and all that good stuff. You want the boxes asking if you want to back up the tablet and restore to the tablet in the setup process both checked.
After you've booted, set up, and let all the apps install that it's going to install, then reboot into recovery and make another nandroid backup, if using TWRP you can name it like "ExampleRom_B4Titanium." Now you've got a clean nandroid backup of the rom setup, and you can start playing with titanium backup and if you accidentally do something that causes problems, you can just wipe everything and restore that clean nandroid backup you made prior to Titanium.
I've been searching around, but can't really find clear information that I understand about all the steps involved in upgrading paranoidandroid to the newer version with Android 4.3.
1) The upgrade requires a factory reset. It I do this from TWRP am I going to lose my nandroids and titanium backups on the sdcard partition? Do I need to backup everything externally first?
2) When I used Titanium to restore my apps and data, what option do I select? Won't "restore all apps with data" include system data that might not be compatible with 4.3? On the other hand won't "restore missing apps with data" not include some data (like text messages) that I want?
3) It seems like, from reading around, that Titanium backup is having mixed results for restoring apps in 4.3. Is there a better method for backing up and restoring apps and data after the upgrade to paranoidandroid with 4.3?
Thanks for any help.
Just wipe data, cache and dalvik cache. Upgrade your radio and bootloader and you're ready to go. You wont lose data on your internal storage.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Thibaultvw said:
Just wipe data, cache and dalvik cache. Upgrade your radio and bootloader and you're ready to go. You wont lose data on your internal storage.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks.
What about restoring my apps and data? Any suggestions about my questions in the op regarding Titanium or another method?
You can safely restore all user apps including data.
As for the system data you should only restore the special TiBu backups like call logs, messages, WiFi access points etc. (Those with the TiBu icon).
Some system apps may work with data restored from an older/other version, but it's a gamble.
Holer Togni said:
You can safely restore all user apps including data.
As for the system data you should only restore the special TiBu backups like call logs, messages, WiFi access points etc. (Those with the TiBu icon).
Some system apps may work with data restored from an older/other version, but it's a gamble.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks.
I guess part of what seems like it should be obvious, but is confusing to me is that I don't see an option in Titanium to restore only user apps. The closest seems like the option to restore "all missing apps." Is there some other option that I'm not seeing? Do I have to do it restore each app manually, to avoid restoring system apps?
cb474 said:
Thanks.
I guess part of what seems like it should be obvious, but is confusing to me is that I don't see an option in Titanium to restore only user apps. The closest seems like the option to restore "all missing apps." Is there some other option that I'm not seeing? Do I have to do it restore each app manually, to avoid restoring system apps?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When you backup choose "backup all user apps" and when you restore choose "restore missing apps with data". That will only restore user apps since you didn't backup the system apps in the first place.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Chromium_ said:
When you backup choose "backup all user apps" and when you restore choose "restore missing apps with data". That will only restore user apps since you didn't backup the system apps in the first place.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's a good idea. I already backed up my system apps and data, some of which I want, like messages, etc. Is there any other way to only restore user apps, given I have the system apps backed up already? Or do I just have to move my backups somewhere (to save the system stuff) and then do it the way you suggest?
cb474 said:
That's a good idea. I already backed up my system apps and data, some of which I want, like messages, etc. Is there any other way to only restore user apps, given I have the system apps backed up already? Or do I just have to move my backups somewhere (to save the system stuff) and then do it the way you suggest?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well when you select "restore all missing apps", it'll bring up another screen where you can deselect what you don't want restored. On that screen you also have an option to "Exclude system apks".
Edit: I'm 95% sure that the "Restore all missing apps" only restores user apps/data. So you don't have to worry about system stuff being restored when you choose this.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Chromium_ said:
Well when you select "restore all missing apps", it'll bring up another screen where you can deselect what you don't want restored. On that screen you also have an option to "Exclude system apks".
Edit: I'm 95% sure that the "Restore all missing apps" only restores user apps/data. So you don't have to worry about system stuff being restored when you choose this.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Okay, thanks. I'll take a look at that and try to make my way forward.
Holer Togni said:
As for the system data you should only restore the special TiBu backups like call logs, messages, WiFi access points etc. (Those with the TiBu icon).
Some system apps may work with data restored from an older/other version, but it's a gamble.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you know, when restoring system data from the 4.2 version of Paranoidandroid to the 4.3 version, should I used the snapshot or xml option in Titanium? Thanks.
I used the XML data and didn't have any problems.
Holer Togni said:
I used the XML data and didn't have any problems.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks. It worked for me too.
*
For anyone else interested in the topic of this thread, per some of the other above discussion, I found that using "restore missing apps and data" in Titanium doesn't just restore user dowloaded apps, but also some leftover apps that I guess were part of Android 4.2, but don't exist in 4.3. So you have to go through the list and be careful to uncheck things that are no longer part of 4.3 or would replace an newer version of some system related thing, with an older version.
I also found when restoring system data, that it wasn't good enough to only restore items labeled with the Titanium icon. There were some things like contacts storage and calendar storage that I wanted the data from and were not labeled this way. So you have to be careful to get those things but only restore data and not the old version of the app.
In the end, it was relatively easy, but a little tricky and I felt like I was guessing at times about what would give me what I wanted and would be safe to restore.
*
I didn't do this, but I wondered if it would be safe to restore paranoid preferences with Titanium? Also is there anything that would restore things like how I had the quick settings panel set up and some of my general system settings like that? Or am I stuck just redoing those things manually?
what happens when you uncheck backup from android settings under "backup & reset"? (r
i've grown tired of the backup wakelock from occurring and from what i've read that by unchecking this option, it'll stop it from happening. i just want to know what data will i lose if any? will i lose contact syncs for new ones saved or added? it states by unchecking the box, it will "stop backing up your wifi passwords, bookmarks, other settings, and app data, plus erase all copies on google servers." what the hell is the other settings? i do have my tibu and nandroid backup so am i at risk of losing anything at all?