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Hey everyone - now that many people are getting the HD (through the post, shop, stealing, whatever) I was wondering what programs that people are using.
If possible, please also state what the app does. eg;
Coreplayer - multiple-format video player.
Also, please post in Beards' topic with version numbers, screen resolutions, etc!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2867306#post2867306
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Acelister said:
Hey everyone - now that many people are getting the HD (through the post, shop, stealing, whatever) I was wondering if there's any programs that people have begun to use? Ones that work well with the HD, that is.
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Yes there are. And if you take a little look around the forum you'll even find a thread dedicated to exactly that...
I looked through 3 pages fof topics... Though it's nice to see you post in all duplicated topics...
Acelister said:
I looked through 3 pages fof topics... Though it's nice to see you post in all duplicated topics...
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You can't miss it.... It's on the front page titled:- 'Programs/Utilites & Games ~ working on the Touch HD'
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2867306#post2867306
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Beards said:
You can't miss it.... It's on the front page titled:- 'Programs/Utilites & Games ~ working on the Touch HD'
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2867306#post2867306
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That tells us what programs work, not what the programs do and why people use them.
Different topics IMO. I'm interested in this thread.
Thank you for correcting my error constructivly, Beards. I don't venture out of BLACKSTONE or ELF, really. Will do, now.
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That tells us what programs work, not what the programs do and why people use them.
Different topics IMO. I'm interested in this thread.
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The opening question clearly states:- "Ones that work well with the HD, that is."
What we don't want to end up having is two topics with members posting what works in this topic but not in the other ~ which after all is what the other topic is all about.
Beards.
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Thank you for correcting my error constructivly, Beards. I don't venture out of BLACKSTONE or ELF, really. Will do, now.
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If I can help you in any small way please do let me know.
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Beards said:
The opening question clearly states:- "Ones that work well with the HD, that is."
What we don't want to end up having is two topics with members posting what works in this topic but not in the other ~ which after all is what the other topic is all about.
Beards.
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Your topic, as useful as it is for the elite, is also a big tease.
For example, I don't know what gsen is but I imagine i might want it! I guess I'll have to google.
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Your topic, as useful as it is for the elite, is also a big tease.
For example, I don't know what gsen is but I imagine i might want it! I guess I'll have to google.
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Jon,
All you need do is go to the topic and ask......
Yes, the topic does list software titles working/not working but there's nothing wrong is posting anything specific about a specified program.
In fact I personally would recommend it.... The more information available is so much better.
Beards
This all stems from the fact software is a total mess on windows mobile - even looking at the biggest sites like clickgamer and handandgo none of them have support for the HD yet. As soon as microsoft bring out their software store the better - that's one thing apple got very very right with the iphone.
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This all stems from the fact software is a total mess on windows mobile - even looking at the biggest sites like clickgamer and handandgo none of them have support for the HD yet. As soon as microsoft bring out their software store the better - that's one thing apple got very very right with the iphone.
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Couldn't agree more Jonathan.
At the moment it's a total minefield in ascertaining what does and does not work.
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There, edited the first post. People can post in both topics. I think it would be interesting to see how many people, for example, used LunarTilt or that iPhone GUI - Beards, with your topic, if someone sees Coreplayer 2.5, they may not bother to list any other interesting apps they use.
Thanks for the link Acelister.
If I find anything of interst applicable for this topic I'll pass it back on to you.
Beards
one major problem and handicap windows mobile will have over the iphone.
The mobile osx is only one device (iphone), so it is a lot easier for developers to create and optimise software for the device, as for wm the developers have to think about the many different devices, thus full optimisation isnt really possible, that is why not all programs will run on all devices.
cor blimey - didn't mean to start anything off here, sorry!
The thread of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442663 is fantastic, and very much appreciated.
If I ever catch up with you guys who have been playing with WM for years, and come across an unlisted app that works, please be assured that I will add to it
However - as a noob, short of Googling each and every one of them to find out what they do (ok, some are pretty obvious!), I have no idea which fall into the categories of "kinda vital" through to "dead useful if you want to do something dead specific".
What I was really hoping for in this thread (and I guess supersquash in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446128 and Philo25 in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445543) was a sort of 'starter for 10'.
Looks like between the various posts we're getting there though, so MANY thanks to everyone
Well I've never really gone out of my way to install anything on my Touch Elf, so this was pretty new to me too. I've been getting the hang of it though.
I've installed:
Advanced Config (changes various hidden options),
Capsure (screen capture utility),
Coreplayer (video player),
Klaxon (alarm),
Total commander (better than File Manager),
SPB Mobile Shell (makes the Today screen look completely different),
iFonz (makes the Today screen look like the iPhone).
Those are all easily found using Google.
Nice one Sir - good to see there's a few of us in the same boat!
sounds like a good starter list - now I just need to start Googling where to get these from...
LOL - wife's gonna love me for the next few weeks...
I'd best start earning some brownie points fast before the HD actually arrives
TTDegs said:
LOL - wife's gonna love me for the next few weeks...
I'd best start earning some brownie points fast before the HD actually arrives
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I hear that... "You've not stopped playing with that since you got it!"
I'm supposed to be spending time right now trying to get hold of a Nokia 7510 (yes, I know, but she likes it!) - and instead I'm on here downloading stuff for a handset that hasn't even arrived yet LOL
(shhhhh please )
I have experimented with quite a few different ROM's, and have enjoyed trying them all out.
Just wanted to post a thought out there, and see if this would be worth pursuing or if something like this exists...
A table that compares the ROMs, version, refresh date, developers, features, additional software, bugs, etc, so folks can compare the different ROMs on one page.
Link the name of the ROM to its actual thread.
Just a thought I wanted to throw out there......
Thanks,
-Sf-
The closest thing that we have is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649705
But, it doesn't lay it out all that clearly without having to go to each thread and read through. Also, it is about 5 weeks since it was last updated, and we all know how much has been done in the last few weeks (especially Froyo...).
I think this is a pretty good idea. If you want to do something like this, I'd be willing to lend a hand. I am on vacation this week so have a lot of free time anyway.
I think that we could build on that format -
Add major features, bugs, developer name, etc.
Thanks,
-Sf-
It's easier to just link to all of them... you can take the time to go through the Dev's home page. After all, that leaves it up to the topic creator to update every single ROM's bugs and updates, which you can't expect them to do.
Sure, it would be easier to do that...for the posters. But, I feel that the people wanting to check out the roms would appreciate a nice overview of features and bugs then having to wade through some of the toics which can be dozens of pages, if not more. I'll probably start working on this tomorrow, since I've been spending the day figuring out why my parents computer sucks so bad. Found it - 256MB of RAM. ugh lol
this IS a great idea...would be very hard to keep it up to date and what happens if the one guy that posted the topic falls off the face of the earth? as a lot of people seem to do.
not trying to stop it before it begins. i'm willing to comb a topic or two and submit my findings...gonna need a bunch of volunteers to do the same to get multiple ROMs listed.
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this IS a great idea...would be very hard to keep it up to date and what happens if the one guy that posted the topic falls off the face of the earth? as a lot of people seem to do.
not trying to stop it before it begins. i'm willing to comb a topic or two and submit my findings...gonna need a bunch of volunteers to do the same to get multiple ROMs listed.
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Agreed - I have seen lists on other websites, and they still show evil eris 1.1 as the most up to date. However, that being said, we are the most active android forum out there, especially for the Eris. I think this has the best shot in being the most accurate on the web.
We already have a comparison guide.
Its called xda-developers.com!
Lazy...lazy...lazy....
Just read! Its the best way to fully understand the ROM anyways. Way better than a spreadsheet with checkmarks and whatnot.
But if someone was willing to take the time, which would undoubtedly take A LOT of time, to list pros, cons, features, bugs, versions, updates, and all that jazz, it MAY be worth looking. But we've seen stuff like this before, it gets created, and then never looked at again.
Great idea! Yes people are lazy for not doing their own homework...but there are so many ROMs out there. I have read through almost every page of topics to the 4 or 5 ROMs I have interest in, and often find myself confusing features, bugs, etc of those ROMs simply because there are SO many pages to read through and so much to keep up with(especially when some of these topics are in excess of 200 pages). Among these 200+ pages are maybe 25 pages really worth any knowledge of having about the ROM...the other 175 are filled with redundant information, outdated problems that have been solved, and off topic or unrelated posts.
DO IT!
I was kinda thinking about creating a guide on my website since I can't really think of anything else to do with the domain/server I have lol...
or if someone else wants to, I can give them FTP access to a folder and I'll just host it.
Just an idea.
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Sure, it would be easier to do that...for the posters. But, I feel that the people wanting to check out the roms would appreciate a nice overview of features and bugs then having to wade through some of the toics which can be dozens of pages, if not more. I'll probably start working on this tomorrow, since I've been spending the day figuring out why my parents computer sucks so bad. Found it - 256MB of RAM. ugh lol
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Yeah... but what happens if you stop updating? And how will you determine whether bugs are just one persons or all of theirs? And almost every ROM page I've seen has the bugs listed on the first post. I'm just saying the current system isn't just "ok" it's the best way to do it. You don't have to read through the entire thread to know the bugs, you can read the first post.
Well, it looks like interest in this idea is underwhelming at best. I'd be all about putting some time into this, but not for 3 people...
Sounds good to me!
This sounds like a great idea to me. I'll admit it would probably take a great about of effort and time to create and maintain but I'd be more than willing to lend my efforts to put something like this together and help keep it up to date. For all of you who are happy with the current system, it will still be there so keep using it. I don't think this is meant to be a complete list of everything there is to know about a ROM, more of an overview (correct me if im wrong). Plus, this would be GREAT for people who've just rooted and are trying to figure out what to try first. We all know its important to read a thread in its entirety before you flash
Just my $0.02
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TheFzong said:
This sounds like a great idea to me. I'll admit it would probably take a great about of effort and time to create and maintain but I'd be more than willing to lend my efforts to put something like this together and help keep it up to date. For all of you who are happy with the current system, it will still be there so keep using it. I don't think this is meant to be a complete list of everything there is to know about a ROM, more of an overview (correct me if im wrong). Plus, this would be GREAT for people who've just rooted and are trying to figure out what to try first. We all know its important to read a thread in its entirety before you flash
Just my $0.02
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I agree - this list should be an "easy" way to glance over the different ROMs, and do a high level comparison. So if someone prefer's hero ports for example, they can go to the developer's page to determine if that ROM is right for them.
Just like when you research out a new computer, I usually do a high level comparison at first before I start digging into the "nuts and bolts"
I don't think it's a bad idea necessarily, I don't mean to crap all over it but here is what would need to happen:
The poster of the thread would need to understand bugs and things that have to do with the ROM's. They would need to be able to differentiate between one person's bug and a bug that multiple people are having and one that everyone is having.
The poster would need to stay updating this... what happens when they get a new phone? What happens if their computer breaks? Blah blah blah there are a thousand ways you can stop.
Really what you need is a Wiki, that way multiple people could update the information. Developers could submit their own ROM updates if they wanted and users could add reviews, comments etc.
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I don't think it's a bad idea necessarily, I don't mean to crap all over it but here is what would need to happen:
The poster of the thread would need to understand bugs and things that have to do with the ROM's. They would need to be able to differentiate between one person's bug and a bug that multiple people are having and one that everyone is having.
The poster would need to stay updating this... what happens when they get a new phone? What happens if their computer breaks? Blah blah blah there are a thousand ways you can stop.
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for example. . . . what happens when your girlfriend kicks you out and you leave in a rage and forget your computer and storage drives. . . . (was working under the radar on something of the sort but low and behold victim of circumstance.
http://code.google.com/p/erisromtracker/
I'm primarily a web designer but know Rails as well, and a bit of PHP. I'd be willing to put some work into this, but I don't have time to do the whole thing on my own.
I'm thinking of a community-powered web app. Any registered user can edit anything. Edits can be "dugg" by other members to represent validity...I dunno, just some first thoughts.
I made the project page so that people could add ideas/etc and there would be an organized, sane place for figuring out how the whole thing would work, as well as a central repository for any work that actually gets done. It also just doesn't make a lot of sense to use a thread to do this, especially when we're trying to get around people using threads to do this.
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Really what you need is a Wiki, that way multiple people could update the information. Developers could submit their own ROM updates if they wanted and users could add reviews, comments etc.
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And this
Much better ideas because it's not just one person's job.
Man, I guess I'm one of the lazy ones! Actually, I've been looking through all the ROMs in lust (because I can't root - yet) and I need an easy way to figure out what the main differences are. I'd be in large favor of this!
Hey all,
Little late in the game, but I want to start doing my own theming. I searched around many places and found several really good guides on creating and dev'ing themes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3175518
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4438978
seem to be a couple of the really comprehensive ones.
Got them from the OP in one of our own Hero Themes and Apps sticky post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588351 which also has some great stuff in it.
My question is....both of those I linked above seem like older posts. Is there anything more current, and perhaps specifically for our Hero, that I should use or be aware of? Or are these still good guides that will work well even now?
Feel free to flame/bash me if I've missed anything obvious out there. Thanks for your input.
chromiumleaf said:
Hey all,
Little late in the game, but I want to start doing my own theming. I searched around many places and found several really good guides on creating and dev'ing themes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3175518
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4438978
seem to be a couple of the really comprehensive ones.
Got them from the OP in one of our own Hero Themes and Apps sticky post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588351 which also has some great stuff in it.
My question is....both of those I linked above seem like older posts. Is there anything more current, and perhaps specifically for our Hero, that I should use or be aware of? Or are these still good guides that will work well even now?
Feel free to flame/bash me if I've missed anything obvious out there. Thanks for your input.
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Check out my everything android thread in dev section. It has all the tools ull need plus links on how to use them
I know the tab isn't widely availiable to the English speaking population yet, but nevertheless there must already be a place to find things like flashing instructions, tips, development.
Does anyone know where this stuff can be found?
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I know the tab isn't widely availiable to the English speaking population yet, but nevertheless there must already be a place to find things like flashing instructions, tips, development.
Does anyone know where this stuff can be found?
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regular developers on XDA didn't get their hand on the tab yet and thats why you dont see the usual dev stuff yet on the fourm
the traffic to this section is also very low and moderators has replied me that this traffic is not sufficient to create the dev sections for the tab
Yes, i understand that about xda... im looking forward to traffic rising, and ill be here when it does.
However, i want to experiment now! So what im asking is whether it can be found elsewhere (at least temporarily).
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Yes, i understand that about xda... im looking forward to traffic rising, and ill be here when it does.
However, i want to experiment now! So what im asking is whether it can be found elsewhere (at least temporarily).
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if you are looking to experiment you can look here
i have already tried all the firmwares but none worked.....be safe in trying things which are not yet tested....
Looking in to it now, thanks. Any forums with lively discussions?
I think the pixel devices are a haven for android development. like a tree has a trunk and then branches , lol the pixels are like the trunk and other manufactures other than google are branches. not exactly but in someways, yes
THIS THREAD IS FOR CENTRALIZING DISSCUSSION
What android features are developers working on? What features do enthusiasts what to see?
Ideas, requests, reminders. Hopefully you'll be heard here
I would like phone theme-ing to be more compartmentalized.
Still wanna see a bootloader unlock for Verizon variant.
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I think the pixel devices are a haven for android development. like a tree has a truck and then branches , lol the pixels are like the truck and other manufactures other than google are branches. not exactly but in someways, yes
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that's not really true. AOSP may be the trunk, but the pixel line is just a branch or two - Google just showcases their stuff on pixel devices first...
alladinscastle said:
THIS THREAD IS FOR CENTRALIZING DISSCUSSION
What android features are developers working on? What features do enthusiasts what to see?
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doesn't it make more sense to encourage users to visit the dedicated thread of a given piece of software that developers already have created VS. trying to have a centralized thread?. ... I mean the pixel forum IS centralized and leads to all of the development, software and support threads already...I'm confused, i don't understand the point....?
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I would like phone theme-ing to be more compartmentalized.
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how so?. ... I mean, as is theming is very compartmentalized, at least in terms of it being granular, on a per-app or overlay basis... therevarevstill a few annoyances with Theming, but it's not too bad...
Part1, first come first serve.
Part2 if we where to use this thread, there would be a better spread of knowledge and less harrassing OPs with cluttered responses, expectations, the usual
Part3 I would like to customize my device without using substratum theme. A more of a layer by layer or mix and match custom options that would be possible with coding approach. Bold- maybe, impossible- nothing. Using one's own choices or prereadied themes
https://www.xda-developers.com/otgs...stratum-themes-directly-on-a-phone-or-tablet/
Linking article for OTGSubs. Looks cool
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Still wanna see a bootloader unlock for Verizon variant.
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I'm Verizon, I got in early when the getting was hood
I thought of a few things like replacing stock boot image with modified signed one, but had an androidinfo.txt error, and if we can't get temp root to bypass, for now, maybe I can find a way to change my imei?
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Part1, first come first serve.
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it doesn't change the fact that all of the OEMS/vendors are building roms using AOSP, not the pixel line... so not really first come first serve.
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Part2 if we where to use this thread, there would be a better spread of knowledge and less harrassing OPs with cluttered responses, expectations, the usual
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you are talking about lumping the entire forum into one thread. meanwhile the forum is nicely divided into categories /sections and is easy to navigate.... furthermore, as a developer; I would prefer any discourse regarding any development that I do, happen in the thread that I created, rather than some mega thread with 100 different topics all overlapping with replies. that's super ineffective, would mean I would have an additional, very disorganized thread to follow and email notifications would be useless..... I can appreciate your intentions, but I can monitor my thread, no need for a third party to intervene.
I do think this is a great idea, for people to point out new articles, features or stuff elsewhere as a newsfeed or something and general discussion... but I think developers can manage their threads better than letting another party do it for them... or putting them in a position where they will have to monitor an additional thread...
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Part3 I would like to customize my device without using substratum theme. A more of a layer by layer custom options that would be possible with coding approach. Bold- maybe, impossible- nothing
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substratum is a layer by layer approach. you can mix and match all that you like, changrle the priority / ordering of layers, etc, etc...
coding approach how? explain in detail, without being vague. do you have any code i can look at? .... I'm not sure that i see how you would accomplish any theming engine without direct ROM support, like the old cm theme engine or OMS/RRO support in AOSP.
Good to know on the AOSP. Maybe their ports will land on pixel soon?
It is unreasonable to see developers updating there's thread here. Very unreasonable. I thought I might see developers like yourself, thanks for the kernel, post here like say... I might start a new project, is their community support for this? That sort of thing. And the community post here with ideas, requests. That sort of thing. Could lead to more participation, and less threads being created that are simply comments that belong here.
The OTGSubs I found sounds like exactly what I was meaning. Just something to get more freedom from prereadied themes. The build your own theme engine. Holla, I do love ya'lls themes usually. I'm gonna go play with OTGSubs.
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Good to know on the AOSP. Maybe their ports will land on pixel soon?
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youbare already running lots of code on your pixel that was committed upstream by Google's partners.
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It is unreasonable to see developers updating there's thread here. Very unreasonable. I thought I might see developers like yourself, thanks for the kernel, post here like say... I might start a new project, is their community support for this? That sort of thing. And the community post here with ideas, requests. That sort of thing. Could lead to more participation, and less threads being created that are simply comments that belong here.
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I getcha. on a new project, I might do that, but for myself anyway; if I release a peice of software, then I'm still going to startba dedicated thread... so like a newsfeed; I could mention / link to it from here but that's about it.
but I can see what ur driving at now.
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The OTGSubs I found sounds like exactly what I was meaning. Just something to get more freedom from prereadied themes. The build your own theme engine. Holla, I do love ya'lls themes usually. I'm gonna go play with OTGSubs.
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otgsubs is for substratum though. you said you didn't want substratum...I'm confused. lol.... iirc, there are several apps like this for modding or creating themes that make use of substratum / OMS.... nice to see more of that around though.
I'd love to see an exploit for vzw Pixel to root/unlock my bootloader.
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I'd love to see an exploit for vzw Pixel to root/unlock my bootloader.
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Wouldn't we all
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The January security update is now allowing deodex. I myself cannot bring myself to update yet. The work done on my phone now cannot be undone. Some where else in the forum it was said that themes (Subs) should be reset before flashing .
What else is locked or waiting to be found within pixel? Today I was hoping WiFi calling would be simple. I failed. Does someone know more about this topic or WiFi calling's ties to HD video calling? Also a screenshot. Yeah
I need too amend my prior post to say "HD voice"
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What else is locked or waiting to be found within pixel? Today I was hoping WiFi calling would be simple. I failed. Does someone know more about this topic or WiFi calling's ties to HD video calling? Also a screenshot. Yeah
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I haven't taken/received the Jan update yet, but then again I'm not going to sideload it on my phone. I'm still hoping for an unlock like the pixel 2/XL2, but my hope is dwindling.
Here is something I found via Google about a bootloader exploit https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjARegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw2mjG3yppFcxSunZI9TGsvi
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Here is something I found via Google about a bootloader exploit https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjARegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw2mjG3yppFcxSunZI9TGsvi
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honestly that looks old. it's talking about the oneplus 3/3T
edit: looking at it it may be feasible, but if it was then why has no one else taken it upon themselves to try to exploit? i would but i don't know the first thing about this stuff (exploiting exploits)
Talks about the pixel too some form of exploit. I just did a random search and found that PDF.
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Talks about the pixel too some form of exploit. I just did a random search and found that PDF.
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yeah quick reading that's what i saw. I'd personally love to try to exploit the meltdown/spectre exploits, but idk if it's feasible.