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HD2 - Tmobile UK vs US Version Comparisons Thread

Had been following the various happenings related to HD2... among other things ....
- The fact that Microsoft states that WP7 does not run on the machine when it actually has the horsepower to do so ....
- The fact that all HD2's out there had a hidden amount of RAM
- The probability that HD2's HAVE a TV-Out after all (chipset indeed supports it)
- The other not so pleasing fact that i got my Touch HD nicked a couple of weeks ago
All led me to buy another HD .... But I soon realised that I ran into a dilemma ....
I purchased (still on the way) .... an HD2 on T mobile UK but I ran into the assumption that T mobile US and UK supply the same specs on the HD2.....
As far as the Tmobile US is concerned - This HD2 , is:
- 122mm long (unlike the regular HD2 which is 120mm long)
- Has 1GB ROM
- Has 512 MB of RAM
- Has Headset included
- Has 16GB microSD included
- Has Gel Case included
On the other hand ... Tmobile UK has no specs whatsoever on the site ...it says however that
- it is 121mm long (which makes me hope that it is the 122mm version)
- Has limited several video streaming apps (can be easily rectified)
- 1Gb or 512MB ROM size (can it be unlocked on all HD2's like RAM?)
- 448MB or 512MB RAM size (can be rectified thanks to custom ROM)
- Has or has not a headset?
- Has or has not a MicroSD card?
- Has or Has not a leather pouch?
I understand that there might have been bundle upgrades as far as Tmobile UK is concerned but I would like to create this thread (with the help of this great community) to clear out any confusion for people out there seeking an HD2 .....
First of all I was unable to find whether or not the ROM size could unlocked in a similar fashion to how RAM size.... At this point I don't even know whether all T mobile HD2's come with 1GB of ROM ....
What's more is that now I realised that there is a T8585 HD2. I reckon that the T8585 version is the 120mm standard HD2 and a T9193 HD2 is the one which is slightly longer.... but yet again I got to confirm this.
So I am hereby inviting all T mobile US / UK HD2 owners to share their knowledge / experience
Many Thanks

The T-Mobile UK is the same as the euro models... it is a T8585. The T-Mo US model is the only one that's different size and has the 1gb ROM. All other models have 512mb. You cannot unlock more ROM. The T9193 is the australian version with different radio bands... other than that, it is the same size as the euro/UK models and has same RAM/ROM. Also, the T8585 and T9183 are 120.5mm to be exact, while the US model is 122mm.
Alcatrazx said:
Had been following the various happenings related to HD2... among other things ....
- The fact that Microsoft states that WP7 does not run on the machine when it actually has the horsepower to do so ....
- The fact that all HD2's out there had a hidden amount of RAM
- The probability that HD2's HAVE a TV-Out after all (chipset indeed supports it)
- The other not so pleasing fact that i got my Touch HD nicked a couple of weeks ago
All led me to buy another HD .... But I soon realised that I ran into a dilemma ....
I purchased (still on the way) .... an HD2 on T mobile UK but I ran into the assumption that T mobile US and UK supply the same specs on the HD2.....
As far as the Tmobile US is concerned - This HD2 , is:
- 122mm long (unlike the regular HD2 which is 120mm long)
- Has 1GB ROM
- Has 512 MB of RAM
- Has Headset included
- Has 16GB microSD included
- Has Gel Case included
On the other hand ... Tmobile UK has no specs whatsoever on the site ...it says however that
- it is 121mm long (which makes me hope that it is the 122mm version)
- Has limited several video streaming apps (can be easily rectified)
- 1Gb or 512MB ROM size (can it be unlocked on all HD2's like RAM?)
- 448MB or 512MB RAM size (can be rectified thanks to custom ROM)
- Has or has not a headset?
- Has or has not a MicroSD card?
- Has or Has not a leather pouch?
I understand that there might have been bundle upgrades as far as Tmobile UK is concerned but I would like to create this thread (with the help of this great community) to clear out any confusion for people out there seeking an HD2 .....
First of all I was unable to find whether or not the ROM size could unlocked in a similar fashion to how RAM size.... At this point I don't even know whether all T mobile HD2's come with 1GB of ROM ....
What's more is that now I realised that there is a T8585 HD2. I reckon that the T8585 version is the 120mm standard HD2 and a T9193 HD2 is the one which is slightly longer.... but yet again I got to confirm this.
So I am hereby inviting all T mobile US / UK HD2 owners to share their knowledge / experience
Many Thanks
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But...
This would mean that ... if WP7 will use 1GB ROM, it would be impossible to place it on Euro HD2's. Am I correct in stating this?
Besides what proof is there that the ROM cannot be unlocked just like the RAM? What is that extra mm on the US version housing underneath the hood?

Alcatrazx said:
This would mean that ... if WP7 will use 1GB ROM, it would be impossible to place it on Euro HD2's. Am I correct in stating this?
Besides what proof is there that the ROM cannot be unlocked just like the RAM? What is that extra mm on the US version housing underneath the hood?
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Cotulla found out the rom chip models used in the Euro and the US versions and they are different. The US models uses a 1gb chip, the euro/uk/aus models use a 512mb chip. Besides, if it could be unlocked, I'm sure they would have discovered it by now. Other than that, I don't think theres any dfference in the models, so I don't know why they made the US model bigger. Some say it was to fit the T-mobile logo, but that doesn't make much sense. But they are always making phone different sizes for different carriers and countries, even when the insides are the same. I remember there was like 3 different looking touchpros for different carriers.
Also, they are not making an official upgrade to wp7, but I'm sure the unofficial one will work on both the 512mb and 1gb models. I believe most developers on it are using 512mb models, so I wouldn't worry about that. I don't see the extra rom being a big deal. I would gladly trade my US hd2 for an austrlian T9193 model so I could use at&t's 3g service.

Thanks so far....
zarathustrax said:
Cotulla found out the rom chip models used in the Euro and the US versions and they are different. The US models uses a 1gb chip, the euro/uk/aus models use a 512mb chip. Besides, if it could be unlocked, I'm sure they would have discovered it by now. Other than that, I don't think theres any dfference in the models, so I don't know why they made the US model bigger. Some say it was to fit the T-mobile logo, but that doesn't make much sense. But they are always making phone different sizes for different carriers and countries, even when the insides are the same. I remember there was like 3 different looking touchpros for different carriers.
Also, they are not making an official upgrade to wp7, but I'm sure the unofficial one will work on both the 512mb and 1gb models. I believe most developers on it are using 512mb models, so I wouldn't worry about that. I don't see the extra rom being a big deal. I would gladly trade my US hd2 for an austrlian T9193 model so I could use at&t's 3g service.
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So Let me understand you right, just for clarity's sake:
T8585 - EURO Version - 120.5mm long / 512ROM / 576RAM
T9193 - AUSSIE Version - 120.5mm long/ 512ROM / 576RAM/Differing Radio bands
Txxxx - US Version - 122,, long / 1GB ROM / 576RAM / NO 3G?
I reckon that that 1mm extra is nothing but some form of identification to recognise the 1GB model straightaway. Is there a way to put an OS in a some High Speed Micro SD card and boot another OS from it? Cos that would solve the issue of small Rom chips....
I also was in doubt because there were some 'leaked' specs which showed the forthcoming T mobile UK with the 1GB ROM and the 512MB RAM and also the 16GB Sd Card
At this point it would be helpful if the Tmobile UK people, speak up a bit ...Would be helpful if you state whether its UK or US and WHEN you bought this mobile and what was bundled with it. Anyone from UK ?

Alcatrazx said:
At this point it would be helpful if the Tmobile UK people, speak up a bit ...Would be helpful if you state whether its UK or US and WHEN you bought this mobile and what was bundled with it. Anyone from UK ?
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bought mine from a t-mob store, not online.
in the box:
#/ phone (obviously! lol)
#/ wired headset (with seperate foam earpeice covers and clothing grip)
#/ USB data cable
*which combines with*
#/ generic charger supplied with UK plug adapter giving a usb port, so plub in the data cable to charge from the wall.
#/ 2bg microSD and full size SD adapter
aswell as all the bumf of manuals etc.
im abit peeved there was no form of case/screen protector like i got with my TYTN II

quasi_mojo said:
bought mine from a t-mob store, not online.
in the box:
#/ phone (obviously! lol)
#/ wired headset (with seperate foam earpeice covers and clothing grip)
#/ USB data cable
*which combines with*
#/ generic charger supplied with UK plug adapter giving a usb port, so plub in the data cable to charge from the wall.
#/ 2bg microSD and full size SD adapter
aswell as all the bumf of manuals etc.
im abit peeved there was no form of case/screen protector like i got with my TYTN II
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Exactly the same here, bought from a T Mob shop in February 2010

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davemazo said:
Exactly the same here, bought from a T Mob shop in February 2010
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Let me guess .... Colour of box was Green on the inside with a white sliding cover on the outside?
Also just for kicks ... could you tell us if they are T8585's and also specify the ROM and RAM size?
As I said earlier T mobile uk seems to be bundling the improved HD2 with the 1GB Rom and the 16GB SD Card ... clearly this isn't your version ... cos of the SD CARD that came with it ....
Some time before there were bundles coming out of T Mobile with no pocket / no stylus and no Sd Card as well... but this dates back to November 09 if I am not mistaken.

if thats the case then im taking mine back!

im having a problem determining which model i have? any ideas? been searching the last 10 mins with no luck

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quasi_mojo said:
if thats the case then im taking mine back!
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It needs to be confirmed as yet ... You'll have to wait for an official package description on T mob UK site before taking yours back....!
But if you take a quick look at T mobile uk's site ... you will instantly realise that as far as specs are concerned .... there is no ram or rom mentioned.....
This is because they "quietly but brilliantly" changing onto the 1GB Rom model ?
Mine is still in the mail so I cannot confirm with you as yet.... but will let you know as soon as I get it unlocked ....

Alcatrazx said:
Let me guess .... Colour of box was Green on the inside with a white sliding cover on the outside?
some time before there were bundles coming out of T Mobile with no pocket / no stylus and no Sd Card as well... but this dates back to November 09 if I am not mistaken.
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Hi,
I've never heard of any service provider who has ever provided a stylus with the HD2. All the news we were hearing about the T-Mobile US release led me to believe that T-Mobile UK were delivering the standard european device and the US model was just for the US. T-Mobile UK don't seem to go into specification details on their web site but the device has the normal white european buttons so if there was additional internal storage that would mean yet another model (and T-Mobile make no reference to this fact). They certainly don't appear to state anything about "bundling the improved HD2..." They don't appear to me offering an SD card according to their UK site either.

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quasi_mojo said:
im having a problem determining which model i have? any ideas? been searching the last 10 mins with no luck
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Simple ... you got to go into the system information ... check how much ROM and how much RAM you have ....
Also if you tell us what came with it, and when you bought it, it would help as well....
Most probably its a T8585 as someone else kindly pointed out earlier on....

cMMY69 said:
Hi,
I've never heard of any service provider who has ever provided a stylus with the HD2. All the news we were hearing about the T-Mobile US release led me to believe that T-Mobile UK were delivering the standard european device and the US model was just for the US. T-Mobile UK don't seem to go into specification details on their web site but the device has the normal white european buttons so if there was additional internal storage that would mean yet another model (and T-Mobile make no reference to this fact). They certainly don't appear to state anything about "bundling the improved HD2..." They don't appear to me offering an SD card according to their UK site either.
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Erm if you see a previous post which I had up there .... I said exactly what you said ...
- T mobile specifications are very vague....
- They would not tell you if its improved or not because it would cause havoc for those customers who just acquired the phone ....
- Thirdly it is clear that the initial bundle came with NO Sd card, then they started putting in a 2 GB MicroSd .... now there is talk about this 16Gb version hitting the streets in due course...
Just wanted to confirm if this is true maybe through somebody who just got one .....
As far as the stylus is concerned you are right ... but it is available as an option from HTC ...

I haven't heard of T-mobile UK offering updated hd2s. The US T-mo does offer 3g, by the way, but on the 1700/2100 band, which isn't used by many other carriers except t-mo US. I mentioned the australian T9193 because it uses the same 850 band that at&t uses in the US, which has much better coverage than t-mobile US. Thats why I would prefer that model and at&t as a carrier... but it costs $800 to import one, compared to the $200 I paid for the T-Mo US HD2 with contract.
Anyways, for T-Mo UK to offer the 1gb rom hd2s, it would mean a completely new model for htc to make with the UK bands, so I see it unlikely they would do this for a phone thats been out for almost 6 months already. I think you will get a 512mb rom phone with T-Mo UK if they haven't stated otherwise. They would probably make a big deal if they were upgrading it and we would have heard about it.

quasi_mojo said:
bought mine from a t-mob store, not online.
in the box:
#/ phone (obviously! lol)
#/ wired headset (with seperate foam earpeice covers and clothing grip)
#/ USB data cable
*which combines with*
#/ generic charger supplied with UK plug adapter giving a usb port, so plub in the data cable to charge from the wall.
#/ 2bg microSD and full size SD adapter
aswell as all the bumf of manuals etc.
im abit peeved there was no form of case/screen protector like i got with my TYTN II
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^ i refer you to post 6 mr alcatrazx
ROM: 1.43.110.2 (70315)WWE
RAM: 448mb (flash 512mb)

zarathustrax said:
I haven't heard of T-mobile UK offering updated hd2s. The US T-mo does offer 3g, by the way, but on the 1700/2100 band, which isn't used by many other carriers except t-mo US. I mentioned the australian T9193 because it uses the same 850 band that at&t uses in the US, which has much better coverage than t-mobile US. Thats why I would prefer that model and at&t as a carrier... but it costs $800 to import one, compared to the $200 I paid for the T-Mo US HD2 with contract.
Anyways, for T-Mo UK to offer the 1gb rom hd2s, it would mean a completely new model for htc to make with the UK bands, so I see it unlikely they would do this for a phone thats been out for almost 6 months already. I think you will get a 512mb rom phone with T-Mo UK if they haven't stated otherwise. They would probably make a big deal if they were upgrading it and we would have heard about it.
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Well that would be still good to know ... As long as WP7 still will run on 512MB I will be more than glad with the HD2
Anyways if anyone can recommend me a company which provides a factory unlock code via IMEI for T-Mo Uk HD2 it would be great if you p.m me. I've heard that I could do it for free through some existing T mobile client but I don't know anyone So thanks for clarifications

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quasi_mojo said:
^ i refer you to post 6 mr alcatrazx
ROM: 1.43.110.2 (70315)WWE
RAM: 448mb (flash 512mb)
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It's a T8585 then

ta da!
we got there in the end lol
now to decide which rom to go for... :s

Alcatrazx said:
Well that would be still good to know ... As long as WP7 still will run on 512MB I will be more than glad with the HD2
Anyways if anyone can recommend me a company which provides a factory unlock code via IMEI for T-Mo Uk HD2 it would be great if you p.m me. I've heard that I could do it for free through some existing T mobile client but I don't know anyone So thanks for clarifications
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When they get a WP7 port working, I'm sure it will work with all the hd2s, as most of the good developers who would work on it will have the 512mb rom ones. The 1gb rom hd2s are limited to one country, while the rest of the world use 512mb roms.

No SAMSUNG logo above the screen on Swedish retail version

No SAMSUNG logo above the screen on Swedish retail version as I saw it today in Media Market store in Norrkoping. dealer said package contains MHL converter.

Btw are wich price u found it?
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Seriously? That rises more questions than answers lol

The pre-order special price is 4990 Sek (Swedish Krona) and delivery date is 12th of May.

El Salvador said:
Seriously? That rises more questions than answers lol
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I Know!!! I asked lots of different questions and also lots of same questions about non existing Samsung logo and MHL converter in the box!! The guy almost cried!! )))

samini said:
I Know!!! I asked lots of different questions and also lots of same questions about non existing Samsung logo and MHL converter in the box!! The guy almost cried!! )))
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Was this an official outlet? Sounds more likely he's got his hands on prototypes or review models...
I'd stay away from a device without Samsung Branding, as when have you known Samsung not to stick their logo on the phone?
hmm...

If I am not mistaken, the Korean models have no Samsung logo on the front.

risq said:
Was this an official outlet? Sounds more likely he's got his hands on prototypes or review models...
I'd stay away from a device without Samsung Branding, as when have you known Samsung not to stick their logo on the phone?
hmm...
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Samsung not having a Bright White logo on GS II is strange!! I can not agree more but I made the guy call his boss and ask!! and I made sure that what I saw was retail version with 1.2GHZ CPU.

Now I have more ....
As you know, from one certain date Samsung replaced pictures with ones with logo. from then almost every online store and mobile reviewer changed their pictures too. Recently I realized Telenor and Tele2 (bigest phone companies in sweden) changed back pictures to ones without Samsung logo.
You can chek it yourself.( As I am sure you know! web sites are .se rather than .com or ...)

risq said:
as when have you known Samsung not to stick their logo on the phone?
hmm...
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Nexus S. It has the Samsung in the back cover.
But I don't believe it would come to sweden without Samsung text in front, when it does in Finland.

I have my doubts about this information. I don't doubt the veracity of what you're saying, but of the information you were given.
First, I wouldn't put it past the regional marketing branch of Samsung to hand out some of the former prototype devices to retailers to look at and Media Markt may have mistook it for a display model. Second, the very fact that Samsung doesn't include an MHI adapter cable is strange, especially when they're rare to come by and other manufacturers like Nokia have set the standard (my N8 came with an HDMI cable, USB-to-Go cable, you name it), so I think the local MM manager is just going on logic without really checking things up.
Yesterday I was in an ElGiganten in Stockholm and the whole front of the store was decked out in huge display boards. They expected to be ready for release on May 6, and kind of miffed about having to wait until May 12. Won't they look rediculous when they realize all their expensive marketing material doesn't even look like the device to be sold - with a Samsung logo on it.
I would be very surprised if the hardware versions delivered to the various EU countries have any significant differences (and I prefer the Samsung lable on the front). But then again, stranger things have happened.

The samsung brand is on the back... Strangely like the iPhone?!
And its not just Sweden. If you visit the Samsung page (swedish, finnish, whatever), only the front page and top images have it - the rest in the actual specification/advertisment of the phone doesnt have it. Three UK shows it without the name. Etc and so on.

You're right about the local Samsung page, it's a mixed bag.
The retailer pictures vary, but the OP is right in saying that a surprising number of retailers now or still have the photos without the logo on the front.
If this is true, it makes me worry that there might be other less benign differences from the units that we've seen from the UK, like cheaper camera sensors or the like.

Let's hope that there is no hardware difference in EU. I really hate it when they do that.
The worst case scenario is Samsung having many first production devices that we know as test devices mostly with 1 GHZ CPU and then they realized that they want to go with 1.2 GHZ and the Samsung LOGO and rest is not so hard to guess since CPU speed is just the matter of over clocking old devices and ..... OH just find a cold place in north to get rid of them ))))

I really hope that I am wrong ..... we will know in less than 5 days.

Danish version...
.... seems to be just like the Swedish version - or rather the version i bought.
No logo on front - also no NFC, and only 16 Gb version without memorycard in the box. BUT... also no HDMI-converter. This version actually comes from warehouses in Sweden, where Telia stores it.
But the specs on the phone shows 1,2 Ghz dual-core, and the rest of the specs fully complies with the specs from Samsung on this phone.

otacon888 said:
If I am not mistaken, the Korean models have no Samsung logo on the front.
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This is because usually carriers force their logos on the front. This was partially the reason why iPhone arrived so late in Korea. Apple wouldn't let anyone touch'em.

Eddiedk said:
.... seems to be just like the Swedish version - or rather the version i bought.
No logo on front - also no NFC, and only 16 Gb version without memorycard in the box. BUT... also no HDMI-converter. This version actually comes from warehouses in Sweden, where Telia stores it.
But the specs on the phone shows 1,2 Ghz dual-core, and the rest of the specs fully complies with the specs from Samsung on this phone.
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The Nordic countries always share the same version (at least in my experience of Samsung).
Has it already been released in Denmark???
Could you use Android System Info and see if it looks the same as Swedroid's UK device shown in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt7mdInSWqk&feature=relmfu
At 3:26 it shows some CPU info (although not entirely accurate, it does show the use of the CPU going up to 1.2 GHz).

I Saw CONVERTER WITH MY EYES!!!
People ! I saw the converter that comes with GSII in box in Sweden @ least from Media Market it is a Charger/HDMI converter you use it to charge cell phone or plug HDMI cable. You can see it in the post here for Infuse4G "http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Infuse-4G-HDMI-out-Adapter-Demonstration_id18667"
So now you can charge and use HDMI @ same time.

Eddiedk said:
.... seems to be just like the Swedish version - or rather the version i bought.
No logo on front - also no NFC, and only 16 Gb version without memorycard in the box. BUT... also no HDMI-converter. This version actually comes from warehouses in Sweden, where Telia stores it.
But the specs on the phone shows 1,2 Ghz dual-core, and the rest of the specs fully complies with the specs from Samsung on this phone.
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Is it the Exynos 1.2?

DZ Successor - my experience

Hello guys. I was using DZ for a long time (jul 2011 - dec 2012) and got it replaced by a "standard" phone without keyboard - Xperia Ion. After almost a year of suffering without hardware keyboard I recently imported Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G (SGH-T699) from USA.
My experience:
1) you can import Galaxy S Relay 4G to Europe without no problem, it runs on GSM/HSDPA networks and has a SIM card slot (Important!)
2) I bought it via ebay.com, in used state but with real pictures of the device and in perfect state. The costs were $125 for the phone + $39 international priority shipping + cca $35 import charges (customs and VAT - 20% in Slovakia).
3) The import charges were charged with the payment and I didn't even know about the customs process, the courier just brought me the phone. That's a plus for ebay when importing from outside EU.
4) The phone was unfortunately locked (even if the seller stated it as unlocked). But after downgrade to ICS it can be unlocked in few minutes.
5) The US charger is no use in Europe, but you can charge it with any other charger, I'm using 1500mA charger from Sony now or 1000mA from HTC. Or you can even use the original charger with travel adapter, but it's uncomfortable, your choice however.
6) The stock firmware is bloated, half of the apps installed are called "T-mobile something" If you like Samsung android environment, you can debloat it manually after rooting, but I suppose most of xda guys will flash CM11 - it's now pretty stable even in experimental state. Honestly, I've been using much more unstable roms as dd...
7) The stock rom has only few languages (en, de, es, fr), but custom roms have full list of languages.
I was considering also Moto Photon Q, but it lacks sim card slot. It can be done, there's a step by step guide on xda to solder a sim card slot. Even the guy from Prague (author of the guide) could do it personally. But I chose the easier way and got the Samsung S Relay. There are no other GSM qwerty android phones usable in Europe.
To moderators: I saw a similar thread that was closed as not related to Desire Z. I must disagree, a DZ successor is a DZ related thread, as the device is pretty old and most of owners are looking for a decent successor. Just wanted to share my personal experience. If you wish, you can move this post to the closed thread, I wouldn't mind But please, don't delete it, in my opinion it contains useful information that definitely has to be found in DZ section. thanks

I also imported one. 180 $ + import tax (new one).
The default rom is pretty decent compared to htc sense, cm10 is much faster than on the desire Z (multitask 10-15 apps: no problem).
The keyboard isn't that good as the one from the desire Z, but you have to get used to it. I have 22Mb as max speed at home (10Mb desire Z) on 3G+.

Looks good and price is good. Was this the only keyboarded Android you looked at or are there other comparable?

brainless00 said:
Looks good and price is good. Was this the only keyboarded Android you looked at or are there other comparable?
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I was considering Motorola Photon Q (without SIM card slot, count plus 50 euro and 2x postage to CZ). This model is the only one suitable with SIM card and support for European networks.
In the meantime LG F3Q was announced. Look at the specs http://www.phonearena.com/phones/LG-Optimus-F3Q_id8243
Maybe it's also worth considering, but I don't like it very much at first look, but it has 2460mAh battery. I'm not sure about the SIM card slot, but as it's on TM USA, it should have defnitely one.

sorgo said:
I was considering Motorola Photon Q (without SIM card slot, count plus 50 euro and 2x postage to CZ). This model is the only one suitable with SIM card and support for European networks.
In the meantime LG F3Q was announced. Look at the specs http://www.phonearena.com/phones/LG-Optimus-F3Q_id8243
Maybe it's also worth considering, but I don't like it very much at first look, but it has 2460mAh battery. I'm not sure about the SIM card slot, but as it's on TM USA, it should have defnitely one.
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thx for link... the blue keyboard looks strange... the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G looks better

brainless00 said:
thx for link... the blue keyboard looks strange... the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G looks better
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I went to a T-Mobile store and look at the actual phone today.
It looks better in hands than on the photo.

brainless00 said:
thx for link... the blue keyboard looks strange... the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G looks better
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there are versions with silver and black keyboard too...

To order one from Canada to Europe: http://www.canadagsm.ca/products-LG-Optimus-F3Q-Penta-Band-LTE. 2G and 3G should work; 4G not.
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Could this be real: http://442kitkat.senuke.info/mp3-0/lg-optimus-f3q-5998.html?

brainless00 said:
there are versions with silver and black keyboard too...
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Are you sure about that ? I thought that was only an early concept.

santimaster2000 said:
Are you sure about that ? I thought that was only an early concept.
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I went to T-Mobile store the other day and I don't think they have that version, at least not for the US market.

santimaster2000 said:
Are you sure about that ? I thought that was only an early concept.
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I only saw pictures... so you could be right

I am still dreaming of a flagship android with hardware keyboard... the LG looks fine, but 1Gb of ram in 2014 is too little. The biggest limitation of the DZ is by far its ~360Mb of ram...

for me,i have imported Huawei U8730,better CPU/GPU,better RAM and bigger screen than HTC DZ

nebu_06 said:
I am still dreaming of a flagship android with hardware keyboard... the LG looks fine, but 1Gb of ram in 2014 is too little. The biggest limitation of the DZ is by far its ~360Mb of ram...
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me too

IMEI Number does not match

Hi there!
I'm planing to buy a Note 4 from a guy. The phone is brand new with box which is brought from Germany, N910F.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sxhc33kso5bv32h/AvWBiQgaFQVK8DPIV5n3VHnWkMLkG9SqNZDb2GSbvyKX.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xchdjqawcq9hu8j/AmZm0k0myYgHCqJt1giHj9-KI4x59W6Fv3W1VsjxfEuo.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lv46p1ymv63pf2h/AhnMYhQ3GbaEnhSa3gXAjIdBnaKKkMj4dnN2416P4kXZ.jpg?dl=0
The thing is when I check it's imei (the seller sent me a clear picture showing imei on the box), it says that the imei is a old nokia phone. (imei.info) I tried couple of different phones, 5 different android phones, and I only got one phone which does not match, LG G3. ı know that it's a legal phone, my friend bought it from a samsung store. So the thing is, do you guys think that that Note 4 is fake? Or is there a problem about website since it shows LG G3 as a old phone?
I want to make sure everything is ok about this phone before paying alot!
Thank you!

Can you call Samsung? They may be able to confirm whether this the IMEI of a legit Note 4. The website could be wrong, surely. But before purchasing, it's worth investigating. Good luck!

that site has outdated info. my genuine 910U comes up as :
Model: C6712 Star II DUOS
Brand: SAMSUNG
Device type:
Phone
Design:
Classic
Released:
2011 r.
SIM card size:
Mini Sim - Regular
GSM:
850 900 1800 1900
Dimensions (H/L/W):
109.5 x 56 x 12.2 mm, vol. 74 cm³
Display:
TFT Color (256K) 240x400px (3.2")
Touch screen:
Weight:
96 g
Battery:
Li-Ion 1200 mAh
Built-in memory:
30 MB
Memory card:
MicroSD max. 16 GB
OS:
Vendor

zurkx said:
that site has outdated info. my genuine 910U comes up as :
Model: C6712 Star II DUOS
Brand: SAMSUNG
Device type:
Phone
Design:
Classic
Released:
2011 r.
SIM card size:
Mini Sim - Regular
GSM:
850 900 1800 1900
Dimensions (H/L/W):
109.5 x 56 x 12.2 mm, vol. 74 cm³
Display:
TFT Color (256K) 240x400px (3.2")
Touch screen:
Weight:
96 g
Battery:
Li-Ion 1200 mAh
Built-in memory:
30 MB
Memory card:
MicroSD max. 16 GB
OS:
Vendor
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iridaki said:
Can you call Samsung? They may be able to confirm whether this the IMEI of a legit Note 4. The website could be wrong, surely. But before purchasing, it's worth investigating. Good luck!
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Ok thank you guys! That helped alot and I will surely investigate...

Just checked my IMEI as well, and it shows up as an old nokia. I have bought my phone through carrier contract, and i highly doubt they are selling fake and/or stolen phones.

catolh said:
Just checked my IMEI as well, and it shows up as an old nokia. I have bought my phone through carrier contract, and i highly doubt they are selling fake and/or stolen phones.
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So now I'm sure that the problem is website related.

ZTE Blade S6 All You Need To Know

Hello,
today I want to introduce the new smartphone from ZTE.
It's the ZTE Blade S6.
The main specs are a 5inch 720p Display, 2gb Ram and 16gb Rom and the storage is expandable. It is a DualSim phone (Nano simcard) with DualStandby and supports 4G LTE, too.
It comes with the brand new Snapdragon 615 (MSM8939) octacore processor clocked at 1,5GHz and the 64bit technology.
As you can see on the pictures below it is very thin with only 7,7mm and has small bezels around the screen. The back of the phone looks similar to the iPhone 6 with a 13mpx shooter from Sony (IMX214), a led flash, the ZTE branding and the loudspeaker. On the right side there is the volume rocker and the power button. On the other side are the sim trays and the place where you can put the micro SD-card inside. The USB-charging port is on the bottom and the 3,5mm headphone jack on top of the phone.
The overall look is very clean with round edges and handy sizes.
On the front of the phone you can see the 5inch HD Display and a blue homebutton you maybe already know from other ZTE devices like the Nubia Z5S, Z7 or ZTE V5. The front camera has 5mpx and should be perfect for some selfies.
The phone also supports some Smart Sense, which lets you launch apps like the music player or flashlight with gestures like flicking your wrist.
Very special is that the ZTE Blade S6 comes with Android 5.0 Lollipop and ZTE's own MiFavor 3.0 UI. The Google PlayStore is pre installed and it supports multilanguage. You can order the phone in two colors (silver, matte pink).
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ZTE Blade S6 Specification Overview:
Network:GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz WCDMA 900/2100MHz FDD-LTE 800/900/1800/2600MHz​Platform:Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 615 octa-core chipset (MSM8939)​Operating System:Android 5.0 Lollipop​Size:144 x 70.7 x 7.7mm​Display:5.0inch 720p HD with In-Cell Technology​Camera:Back: Sony IMX214 13mpx, Front: 5mpx​Battery:2400mAh​Interface:3.5mm Earphone Port, Dual Nano SIM, 5pin Micro USB, Micro SD​Memory:16GB eMMC + 2GB RAM DDR3​
Please check out the attached pictures of the ZTE Blade S6 in both colors silver and matte pink.
I will get one phone in the next 1-2 weeks and then I will write a full review of this phone, so stay tuned.
Update: Gearbest has sent me a new coupon code that I would like to share with you.
Code: ZTES6JY
-> Blade S6 costs 214,99$ with shipping from Germany. So it is very interesting for the customers from Europe because they don't have to pay taxes.

Iphone Look Alike
Looks Like iPhone.Well, after sales support is my only concern .

I really like the design, too and the specs look very nice. The Snapdragon 615 should have enough power and an HD screen is enough for 5inch. I hope that the battery will last a whole day or even a bit more.
I don't have any experience with after sale support, so I can't tell you something about it but ZTE is a nig brand and so I think there won't be any production issues.

looking at the frequency this phone should work on the rogers network in canada right? Is it unlocked from the factory?

Yes, it comes definately unlocked but please check the network used by rogers by your own. I'm not an expert and don't want to say something wrong.

I have updated Post 1#.
From today on the phone will be sent out and I hope that I will receive my phone next week.

I'm also waiting for Blade S6...I payed it 263usd but today you can get it for 249 on AliExpress... if there is any root guide, please share...

As posted above you can get it with an coupon code from gearbest for 234$, which I think is a good price for a Snapdragon phone from a big brand.

They dont sell to north america in this sale..

I thought they would sell worldwide.

Jaglicic said:
I'm also waiting for Blade S6...I payed it 263usd but today you can get it for 249 on AliExpress... if there is any root guide, please share...
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My phonr is on its way. Have you already received yours?

@IceTea7 no... Max 10 days more...

I think I will receive my phone this week. The tracking looks good

IceTea7 said:
I think I will receive my phone this week. The tracking looks good
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hello
could you please PM me the seller you choose for your order please? because i m also in the first one of order and there was only two sellers and no update from my seller about the shipping.
thanks in advance

naruto42 said:
hello
could you please PM me the seller you choose for your order please? because i m also in the first one of order and there was only two sellers and no update from my seller about the shipping.
thanks in advance
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Now is Chinese New Year and probably they will ship after New Year, I am still waiting for shipment details also

@naruto42 I get my phone from gearbest. The shop link is in post 1. My Blade S6 is at the moment stuck at the customer center in Germany. I hope that I will receive it this week.

I already got mine here in germany! Any ideas for gaining root?

Have you tried Framaroot?

yes, unfortunately its not working.
Tried: Framaroot, SRSRoot, Saferoot, iRoot, OneClickRoot, Eroot, Root Kit.
OneClickRoot submitted some data, maybe they can work something out?!

I will try to root it if I receive my phone. I have googled for ZTE Blade S6 root and the result was an instruction to Eroot.