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The Best Athena! HTC Advantage X7500!!

Place your pre-orders now American customers! I have found one company located in North America. I have already placed my pre-order. The quote was provided as 550 pounds and 600 pounds with all prices inclusive.
Here is the link
link 1
or
link 2 <-- removed due to seller being fake!
link 1 is canadian customers and link 2 (removed)
It is widely available in Europe via many resellers for the same price! Enjoy! They will ship sometime in April. Brand new in box and SIM Free Unlocked and in English with a English Keyboard unlike T-mobile and Dopod!

nuclear said:
Place your pre-orders now American customers! I have found two companies. Both located in North America. I have already placed my pre-order. The quote was provided as 550 pounds and 600 pounds with all prices inclusive.
Here are the links
link 1
or
link 2
link 1 is canadian customers and link 2 is USA customers. Two links to avoid custom fee!
It is widely available in Europe via many resellers for the same price! Enjoy! They will ship sometime in April. Brand new in box and SIM Free Unlocked and in English with a English Keyboard unlike T-mobile and Dopod!
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The second link look quite fake, that company is only selling 1 item which is the Advantage? um.....pls be careful there. And also as i see it's still on pre-order. You sure they have confirm that price already? In uk, we have lots of website pre-ordering Advantage but the price are all soo different. You might end up paying more or less because those price is not final yet.
I can only say this again: If you want the Advantage so bad, wait until April, it will be out by then, no point doing any pre-order, you will get the machine about the same time anyway. By april, lots of company will be offering Advantage, and you can choose the best deal then.
If you really want to place your pre-order, please take some time to phone up HTC and ask them whether the price is right and is it really available now? I have just phone them and the answer is HTC ADVANTAGE IS NOT OUT AND THE PRICE IS NOT FINAL. so please be careful here...........

thanks i figured it out i removed that second link. filtering out my searches. that second seller was a fraud. thanks for revising me. wait isnt the price htcphonestore.com offering is $1500USD! >.> thats around 800 pounds and i believe thats a final price for now. but some resellers in europe offering 600 pounds. i saw it myself. and this canadian seller also offering 600 pounds. i trust the canadian seller.

nuclear said:
thanks i figured it out i removed that second link. filtering out my searches. that second seller was a fraud. thanks for revising me. wait isnt the price htcphonestore.com offering is $1500USD! >.> thats around 800 pounds and i believe thats a final price for now. but some resellers in europe offering 600 pounds. i saw it myself. and this canadian seller also offering 600 pounds. i trust the canadian seller.
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The europe reseller are all on pre-order, that's why the price are all not final yet. The canadian seller might just got the price from those website. Because they are all on pre-order and price not fix, no much people is putting interest in ordering them now, they rather wait until the price is confirm. The 600 pounds might comes from DOPOD U1000 as well, since that's the confirm price. I will be surprise if Advantage is only £600. from 3GSM, the HTC people say it's going be about £700, that's what expansys and mobile planet heard as well.
Usually the machine is cheaper in Asia. So Advantage should be more than £600 (DOPOD U1000).

wu5262 said:
The europe reseller are all on pre-order, that's why the price are all not final yet. The canadian seller might just got the price from those website. Because they are all on pre-order and price not fix, no much people is putting interest in ordering them now, they rather wait until the price is confirm. The 600 pounds might comes from DOPOD U1000 as well, since that's the confirm price. I will be surprise if Advantage is only £600. from 3GSM, the HTC people say it's going be about £700, that's what expansys and mobile planet heard as well.
Usually the machine is cheaper in Asia. So Advantage should be more than £600 (DOPOD U1000).
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Well you will see its going to stick to £600 when it comes out. So you should return your Dopod and pre-order an Advantage X7500. See you have nothing to loose. you will be without a phone for a month latest but thats fine. You will gain a lot of things out of this. Let me brief you on the specs of the Advantage compared to Ameo and Dopod.
Firstly,
Performance wise all of them are equal
Secondly,
Quality/Body wise Advantage tops because it uses carbon fiber/magnesium alloy and ameo uses aluminum alloy with plastic just like dopod which is not a problem at all because they look like ipod but it just gets scratched up pretty easily. Plus HTC is a much better company than T-Mobile and Dopod since you are dealing with the original manufacturer and not a name branded t-mobile or dopod. HTC maintains its originality and you are getting it first hand instead of dopod changing the entire body and name branding it. So I make a wise choice and you are very impatient so you going to regret it. Anyways i am going to wait for 1 month or over 1 month for more people to start selling black one. i want to feel dopod before i make a decision. ameo looks awesome too. but i will wait for a month or two.

nuclear said:
Well you will see its going to stick to £600 when it comes out. So you should return your Dopod and pre-order an Advantage X7500. See you have nothing to loose. you will be without a phone for a month latest but thats fine. You will gain a lot of things out of this. Let me brief you on the specs of the Advantage compared to Ameo and Dopod.
Firstly,
Performance wise all of them are equal
Secondly,
Quality/Body wise Advantage tops because it uses carbon fiber/magnesium alloy and ameo uses aluminum alloy with plastic just like dopod which is not a problem at all because they look like ipod but it just gets scratched up pretty easily. Plus HTC is a much better company than T-Mobile and Dopod since you are dealing with the original manufacturer and not a name branded t-mobile or dopod. HTC maintains its originality and you are getting it first hand instead of dopod changing the entire body and name branding it. So I make a wise choice and you are very impatient so you going to regret it. Anyways i am going to wait for 1 month or over 1 month for more people to start selling black one. i want to feel dopod before i make a decision. ameo looks awesome too. but i will wait for a month or two.
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I am tired of people who don't understand the relationship between DOPOD and HTC, they are basically the same company, DOPOD is the sister company of HTC which is responsible of dealing with customer. Just for those people who have not touch bothe Advantage and Dopod u1000, i have played with both and personally, i think the DOPOD U1000 has a better finish and also better quality. But again, that's my personal view.
For support wise, DOPOD will give so much better support than HTC, HTC has just recently start dealing with customer, they are not very good at it, and they are thinking to hand the US and Europe market to DOPOD since they are doing so much better. If you look at HTC Official website, can you see any update or bug fix? NO!!!!! Nothing there, although they make the machine, but they don't fix the problem, you won't get any update from HTC, instead you will get it from DOPOD and T-mobile, they are their own engineer to fix up the problems. That also explain why the DOPOD machine is running smoother than Advantage, the test unit of Advantage still seems buggy, maybe that's the reason of delay.
Anyway, so which machine should you get?
I say this again: if you want black one, go Advantage, don't think more
If your contract is due to end, go Ameo
Any other people (including people who can't wait) should consider Dopod.
Will i return my Dopod and get Advantage? Sure not!

wu5262 said:
I am tired of people who don't understand the relationship between DOPOD and HTC, they are basically the same company, DOPOD is the sister company of HTC which is responsible of dealing with customer. Just for those people who have not touch bothe Advantage and Dopod u1000, i have played with both and personally, i think the DOPOD U1000 has a better finish and also better quality. But again, that's my personal view.
For support wise, DOPOD will give so much better support than HTC, HTC has just recently start dealing with customer, they are not very good at it, and they are thinking to hand the US and Europe market to DOPOD since they are doing so much better. If you look at HTC Official website, can you see any update or bug fix? NO!!!!! Nothing there, although they make the machine, but they don't fix the problem, you won't get any update from HTC, instead you will get it from DOPOD and T-mobile, they are their own engineer to fix up the problems. That also explain why the DOPOD machine is running smoother than Advantage, the test unit of Advantage still seems buggy, maybe that's the reason of delay.
Anyway, so which machine should you get?
I say this again: if you want black one, go Advantage, don't think more
If your contract is due to end, go Ameo
Any other people (including people who can't wait) should consider Dopod.
Will i return my Dopod and get Advantage? Sure not!
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Alright i contacted the guy in montreal and he gave me a quote. He said its a pre-order. Also i asked him if there are any stores in new york or toronto where i can get this phone around april. Lets see tomorrow when i talk to him more. He said he is selling for £600 which is the same price as the dopod and thats truly amazing. Well sure i would get the dopod... its not like i got something against white.. it just seems stupid to get a keyboard with chinese characters on it and a chinese rom. Also i have never had a HTC phone.. all my phones till now.. branded by O2, Dopod or Orange... so i am really happy to see the HTC logo on my phone ^^

nuclear said:
Alright i contacted the guy in montreal and he gave me a quote. He said its a pre-order. Also i asked him if there are any stores in new york or toronto where i can get this phone around april. Lets see tomorrow when i talk to him more. He said he is selling for £600 which is the same price as the dopod and thats truly amazing. Well sure i would get the dopod... its not like i got something against white.. it just seems stupid to get a keyboard with chinese characters on it and a chinese rom. Also i have never had a HTC phone.. all my phones till now.. branded by O2, Dopod or Orange... so i am really happy to see the HTC logo on my phone ^^
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Nice to hear that We will wait for your info tomorrow, keep us inform.

Big difference between HTC Advantage and Dopod U1000
I have been reading this forum, but I have to say there is a big difference in specifications between HTC Advantage and Dopod U1000. If you type www.htc.com you will see under specs the HSDPA/UMTS (2100 MHz for Europe, 850/1900 MHz for USA) this means that if you buy the Europe version it only has 2100 MHZ. However if you type www.dopodasia.com you will find that under specs it comes with 2100MHZ AND 850/1900 MHZ. As such both models are very different. In addition, If you look at the weight, Dopod U1000 is much heavier than the HTC advantage. I was wondering how come nobody noticed this.. As such based on those 2 official websites. These 2 models are different not just the colour. I hope this helps.

In my personal opinion I think that the weight published on the HTC site includes: HTC Advantage + Battery as it clearly says: 359g (with battery)
On the Dopod site, the weight includes: Dopod U1000 + Battery + Keyboard as it says: 375g(With battery and Magnetic Qwerty keypad)
So I think the weight difference is only what is being weighted.
And for the HSDPA/UMTS frequencies I understand that the band of 2100 MHz is the one European Carriers are using, and in the USA the carriers are using 850/1900 MHz band. I don't think HTC will release a version for USA and one for Europe, what about Asia and the rest of America? I think they are just pointing out which band you have to use if you will use it in USA or in Europe.
Please someone correct me if I am wrong.
Regards!
greatestkelvin said:
I have been reading this forum, but I have to say there is a big difference in specifications between HTC Advantage and Dopod U1000. If you type www.htc.com you will see under specs the HSDPA/UMTS (2100 MHz for Europe, 850/1900 MHz for USA) this means that if you buy the Europe version it only has 2100 MHZ. However if you type www.dopodasia.com you will find that under specs it comes with 2100MHZ AND 850/1900 MHZ. As such both models are very different. In addition, If you look at the weight, Dopod U1000 is much heavier than the HTC advantage. I was wondering how come nobody noticed this.. As such based on those 2 official websites. These 2 models are different not just the colour. I hope this helps.
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greatestkelvin said:
I have been reading this forum, but I have to say there is a big difference in specifications between HTC Advantage and Dopod U1000. If you type www.htc.com you will see under specs the HSDPA/UMTS (2100 MHz for Europe, 850/1900 MHz for USA) this means that if you buy the Europe version it only has 2100 MHZ. However if you type www.dopodasia.com you will find that under specs it comes with 2100MHZ AND 850/1900 MHZ. As such both models are very different. In addition, If you look at the weight, Dopod U1000 is much heavier than the HTC advantage. I was wondering how come nobody noticed this.. As such based on those 2 official websites. These 2 models are different not just the colour. I hope this helps.
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I think when they say "2100 MHz for Europe, 850/1900 MHz for USA" means those are the frequency for these country, it should support both.
The weight difference can be cause by many reason. i have weighted my Dopod and i got 372 which is with battery, and keyboard.
Not sure the advantage weight is including keyboard or not, it doesn't say.
But i think it make kind of sense that DOPOD is heavier (not that much anyway, don't think you will notice it) because the good material it use.
by the way, the keyboard itself weight about 80

Yes. the device support all frequency. they want to say it support2100 in Europe and 850/1900 in USA
many of phone is like it and support all of this.
Don't think HTC made 2 version of Advantage.one for Europe and one for America and ...
it is not true
tanX

in DPADB.net write all 3 device are 375 gr!!!!(include battey)

If me i'll write down tha things that fit for my costumer,and the other not to important, that what dey did i think. Give their consumer a specifict informations.

cornelius said:
If me i'll write down tha things that fit for my costumer,and the other not to important, that what dey did i think. Give their consumer a specifict informations.
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your reply is for who?
I can't underestand it
sorry

Arya said:
Yes. the device support all frequency. they want to say it support2100 in Europe and 850/1900 in USA
many of phone is like it and support all of this.
Don't think HTC made 2 version of Advantage.one for Europe and one for America and ...
it is not true
tanX
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Indeed, the HTC X7500/T-Mobile Ameo/Dopod U1000 have Quadband GSM support and Triband UMTS/3G support.
NOT many phones have this feature, to my knowledge only the HTC TyTN and the Palm Treo 750 currently have the same Quadband GSM / Triband UMTS features. Most other UMTS/3G phones on the market have market/UMTS frequency specific setups.
The Nokia N80 for example has a Quadband GSM capability but the UMTS/3G capability is limited to one region only (UMTS 2100 or 1900).
Guys...stop this gossip regarding a difference between the HTC X7500 and the Dopod/T-Mobile units: they are technically identical, there are only differences in the material/colours of the exterior casing used and some ROM differences which have been implemented by HTC too at Dopod/T-Mobile request. Not to forget that Dopod is owned by HTC, just in case some people don't know.

P996 said:
Indeed, the HTC X7500/T-Mobile Ameo/Dopod U1000 have Quadband GSM support and Triband UMTS/3G support.
NOT many phones have this feature, to my knowledge only the HTC TyTN and the Palm Treo 750 currently have the same Quadband GSM / Triband UMTS features. Most other UMTS/3G phones on the market have market/UMTS frequency specific setups.
The Nokia N80 for example has a Quadband GSM capability but the UMTS/3G capability is limited to one region only (UMTS 2100 or 1900).
Guys...stop this gossip regarding a difference between the HTC X7500 and the Dopod/T-Mobile units: they are technically identical, there are only differences in the material/colours of the exterior casing used and some ROM differences which have been implemented by HTC too at Dopod/T-Mobile request. Not to forget that Dopod is owned by HTC, just in case some people don't know.
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You are wrong there, The rom wasn't done by HTC, DOPOD one is done by Dopod, and T-mobile one is done by T-mobile. HTC are in charge of the hardware design.

wu5262 said:
You are wrong there, The rom wasn't done by HTC, DOPOD one is done by Dopod, and T-mobile one is done by T-mobile. HTC are in charge of the hardware design.
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Would you please name a source for this "information"? Just curious.

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Would you please name a source for this "information"? Just curious.
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I was one of the tester of Advantage, and my brother is one of the most senior engineer in HTC. I am not saying they don't do software, i am talking about the ROM. The base software wasn't even done by HTC , it's done by Microsoft !

wu5262 said:
I was one of the tester of Advantage, and my brother is one of the most senior engineer in HTC. I am not saying they don't do software, i am talking about the ROM. The base software wasn't even done by HTC , it's done by Microsoft !
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Again curious: if you were a tester of the "Advantage", why couldn't you keep it further, why did you go for a Dopod? If your brother is a senior engineer at HTC, why didn't he get you a X7500 since beta testers have already "final" hardware versions in their hands? Because the Dopod is "better"?
I'm also curious why you asked in a post how the quality of the Advantage is...if you were a beta tester, you should know it better than anybody else.
Sorry if my questions are too straight forward, I'm just trying to understand why your information is completely opposed to what I know.

Telus HTC P4000 = CDMA Hermes?

Hey everyone,
I've decided to start a post on this cuz i haven't been about to find much on this recently released phone from telus (a canadian carrier). I currently have an HTC TyTN. However, the touchscreen is completely dead. Since this phone isn't sold by any canadian carriers, it's virtually impossible to get it repaired let alone replaced.
I've recently come across the Telus HTC P4000 which was officially launced by telus in april. I noticed the specs are very similar to that of the TyTN except for the following:
-A CDMA phone without a sim card slot.
-256 mb rom vs 128 mb rom
-64 mb sdram vs 64 mb ram? (**i dunno if the hermes ram is SD)
-a QUALCOMM MSM7500, 384 MHz CPU vs a Samsung 400 MHz CPU.
I'm thinking of selling my X01HT and signing up with telus and grabbing that phone. I could really use some feedback on this idea from my fellow Hermes owners. And could use some help measuring the pros and cons.
So far the major CON of going to this phone would be that it's slightly slower and looks to have ZERO upgradability in terms of OS, RADIO, or any type of rom flashing. Meaning no sweet WM6 upgrades from custel or jasjamming or any of the other cool chefs...
Here are some links:
http://www.telusmobility.com/content/clientcare/pcs_east/guides/htc_p4000/htc_p4000.pdf
-user manual (specs can be found here as well)
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/04/17/the-htc-p4000-for-telus-in-the-flesh/
-engadgetmobile article on this phone
Any feedback or thoughts would be great. Thanks guys...

I din't know how much money you want to spend, but expansys do a good range of phones - including the dopod 838 pro (http://www.expansys.ca/)
I think most of these are phone only, without contract etc but I'm sure you can shop around for something with a contract.
Personally for my style of useage I'd spend out on one of the Hermes varieties.
You could also try ebay - maybe pick up a bargain 8525 or an old hermes to repair yours with.
Good luck

I just bought 2 HTC P4000 for some of our work phones. One has been activated so far, and it is working great. It is allot slimmer than the PPC-6700, which I had last year. I am a newbie when it comes to upgrading these things or doing hacks etc, but I am quite happy with the phone so far. If you have any specific questions please feel free to ask me and I will try to answer them for you.

thanks guys,
I passed by a telus store today to check it out. The lady was nice enough to take a brand new phone out of its box and run it for me. I got to play around with it for a while and here are my impressions which are mostly positive:
-the slid out keyboard seems to have some kind of power assist feature (not exactly but you know what i mean, think hiptop) which makes it pretty cool and easier to slid out as oppose to having to manually push up the screen till you hear it lock into place (X01HT)
-The HTC P4000 is virtually the same size except just as twelveca stated, it is slightly thinner.
-same white default htc bootscreen + a telus logo screen and wm5 setup. I doubt the possibility of any kind of upgrade unless there are some crazy chefs out there that get their hands on this phone.
-has FN and CAPS lights just like a computer keyboard!
-black keyboard, dark gray screen housing, and a bumpy pattern on the back for added grip.
-I checked out the device info screen and to my surprise, it said it has a !400! MHz CPU as oppose to the 384 MHz stated in the specs. 64 MB RAM, 256 MB Onboard Flash memory confirmed.
-From the few minutes playing with it, it seems to perform at the same level (if not better) as the HERMES.
-Doesn't show any signs of screen alignment problems.
-EVDO High speed wireless capable.
There ya have it, looks like i'm leaning towards buying it. Just have to get over the idea that i won't be able to upgrade roms (for now at least) or use sim cards...But other than that, it seems like a great phone.

Oh i just found a link to a "Complete" review of the P4000 on HF
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1153541
It includes points i forgot to mention as well as ones i didn't even know of...
Here are some of them (note these are compared to the ut starcom 6700):
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-dual core processor??
- REV A compatible (with software upgrade which Telus has officially announce they will do)
-more buttons on face and sides
-better one-handedoperation
-bigger battery
-better battery life
-better brighter screen
-better 2mp camera with improved software and settings
-AKU 3.3 which brings with it A2DP among other things
"

P4000
Just recently picked one of these up and have had a couple of days to play with it. I upgraded from an Imate PPC (original 2003 edition) and could not be happier.
This is a rock solid PPC, only wish my GPS hardware was compatable, sigh.
I was a little unsure of Telus but after my fiascos with Rogers, i dont expect them to give me half the grief.

cool, i'll be picking one up probably some time next week...just gotta figure out how i'm gunna cancel my plan with fido and transfer the number over...
...maybe we can start a new forum for this phone when more people have it...

Who that knows as to unlock Telus or P4000 ?

HTC TYTN
ji1386, how much do you want for your broken TYTN?

TYTN
ji1386, if you want to sell your broken TYTN, I could use it for parts if unable to fix it. Send me a PM with your offer. Thanks

I have this phone basically since it came out from Telus, and I must say I am quite enjoyikng it. Best Pocket PC phone out, IMO.
This phone is upgradeable to Windows Mobile 6.....however, there is no confirmed release date on when this will be. Also, checking the HTC site will most likely get you nowhere as Telus will need to configure this upgrade to have Telus aspects on there, for instance, The Telsus bootscreen, the today themes, etc.

GPS in HTC P4000
The GPS in this phone someone post what u gotta do to get GPS working on this phone in Stand Alone GPS Mode with No A-GPS.

what am i getting ?

http://www.fastcardtech.com/goods.php?id=1231#ask
^ the item description says that its an OEM limited white HTC Touch . soo am i getting the elf or elfin ? i says 64mb RAM and 128mb ROM , meaning the elf , but i thought only the elfin came in white ?
can anyone clarify ?
thanks ,
vapour

It is neither - It is actually a clone - they confirmed that it is a clone in the questions and answers as you scrole down the page. Before buying this make sure you know fully what you are getting and that you are OK with a clone. Some people have had difficulty flashing new ROMS on clones or even running certain apps.

ohh . so is it a clone or OEM ? some of the answers says OEM version while other says clone ?
does anyone know where i can get an htc touch or htc touch enhanced for under $200 ?
thanks ,
vapour

The one in the picture is definately a clone - Look at one of the pictures with the battery out and back open. Says made in China - True HTC such as mine says HTC inovations made in Taiwan. Also notice that the external antenna conection is not in the place it should be. I would doubt that they are selling any realy HTC devices - Likely all clones. I have not heard many people complaining too much about clone devices besides what I mentioned above plus depending on who you buy it from - you might have some difficulty with customer support

ohh ohhkay thanks !
do you know where to buy an htc touch enhanced for below $250 if possible ?
what`s the cheapest price ?
thanks ,
vapour

Vapourstreak said:
ohh ohhkay thanks !
do you know where to buy an htc touch enhanced for below $250 if possible ?
what`s the cheapest price ?
thanks ,
vapour
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You want an Elfin? What contry are you in. You can search EBAY, However, watch out for clones still if you definately don't want a clone. If you are in Canada you can get one through ROGERS for as cheap as free with a contract and data plan (rather expensive their data plans are) I just bought mine straight up so that I wouldn't have to take their rediculous data plan (WIFI is good enough for me as there are tons of open WIFI hotspots in my neck of the woods) I don't really know much about package deals with other countries and other carriers. In Canada ROGERS is the only carrier that carried the ELFIN as far as I know. Bell, Northern Mobility, Telus all CDMA touch AKA Vogue

i`m from canada like you LOL . i don`t want a contract or anything , cause i`m planning on using my old ROGERS sim card . i`m from vancouver .
how can i tell if the listings on ebay are the elf or elfin ?
thanks ,
vapour

Elf information in wiki here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Elf
Elfin in WIKI here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Elfin
Still with EBAY you never know- Seller may claim that device is genuine HTC Elfin and when you get it you find that it is a clone or even just the plain Elf or even maybe a vogue and not Elf or Elfin because they just didn't know the difference. Just be careful and be sure before you buy. I don't know what other sites you can get one at that would be cheap enough but honorable / trustworthy. Maybe someone else can provide you with some links to some trusted sites. You can search through this forum to see if anyone is selling their elfin (used for cheap)

http://surprisinggift.com/p1447/HTC...-6.0--phone,-wifi,Touch-FLO/product_info.html
^
do you know if that`s real or not ?

I could not tell if this was genuine or not but either way it is not elfin or enhanced elf\
Elf has 128M FLASHROM +64M RAM which this device has
Elfin has Memory ROM: 256 MB SDRAM: 128 MB DDR

ohh ohhkay .
do you know any stores that sell the elfin cheaply ?
thanks

I just searched all the sites that I know I trust and they either are not carrying the Elfin or are selling it at full price 399.00 Canadian or higher even still. Sorry, I dont' want to recomend any other sites that might be cheaper, because I personally don't know them, never dealt with them myself and don't want to see you get screwed because of something I recomended. Hopefully someone else here might be able to point you to some trusted sites.

ohhkay thanks a lot for your help !
does anyone else know a site ?
thanks !

Question about US vs. European HD2

A colleague of mine told me that the hardware in the two versions (including RAM and ROM sizes) are the same, it is just that on the European version portions are not enabled (in order to save power, since Windows Mobile cannot yet access it). Is this true?
Thanks in advance!

the ram is the same but only when the regular leo uses a tmous rom and radio
the rom is not.

IUnknown8525 said:
A colleague of mine told me that the hardware in the two versions (including RAM and ROM sizes) are the same, it is just that on the European version portions are not enabled (in order to save power, since Windows Mobile cannot yet access it). Is this true?
Thanks in advance!
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I think your colleague doesn't know what he thinks he knows lol.
In short, the amount of physical memory on the phone is different between the two, and it's not just "locked" on the euro version...WM can most certainly access a full 1GB of ROM memory.
As sam mentioned above, the exact amount of space on the ROM memory that is occupied by the ROM/Radio itself varies a little bit between the Euro and US versions, so maybe that's where your friend was conufsed...?
Also, you'll notice the tmo (US) model is just a tiny bit taller than the euro version (1.5mm), just enough room to squeeze in the extra silicon.

T-Mobile or HD2

which is best for hacks I want to triple boot Android,wm6xx and Linux ubuntu.
maybe even win98 and dosbox
I have much love wm and dislike wp
with should I buy T-Mobile ver or normal 512

suavelyphe said:
which is best for hacks I want to triple boot Android,wm6xx and Linux ubuntu.
maybe even win98 and dosbox
I have much love wm and dislike wp
with should I buy T-Mobile ver or normal 512
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Android and WM see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33988958
Cheers
Klaus
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda app-developers app

extra storage is nice on the US t-mobile version but at end of the day most important thing is buying a good condition one & that means looking at all available & picking the best regardless of what version.
Take care as digitizer issue is present on all models & revision digitizer seems just as prone to ribbon join issue early ones.
CPU BGA issues is also well known & many digitizer repairs are done to very poor standard or left device with no wifi or working volume button so buyer be ware ...

European HD2 versions seems to be a bit better when comes to quality:
-Hynix NAND, faster and more reliable(more write cycles)
-slightly better Li-Poly
-better digitizer(thickier ribbon?)

We have international & US t-mobile models & all have Li-ion cells of same rating.
When it comes to quality there is not a lot to choose between the 2.
We have had more Digi replacements on International & only 2 remaining devices from our company handsets on original digitizer are both TMOUS.
Problem is ribbon join to digi panel becomes poor & this happens on both types of digi & all versions of HD2 from US, Europe & Australia.