Notification delay for gmail - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

I can understand my notifications not being immediate but 10 minute delay is crazy. I this isn't a S4 issue because it's happpenef on my evo and HTC one x. Anyone else notice this? Will using the Email app reduce lag I get in the gmail app ?
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I temporarily left notifications on for both the android e-mail app and the gmail app, both set to sync every 15 mins. the gmail app notifies much faster every time.
I want to use the stock e-mail app because I can move e-mails from my inbox to folders, where on the gmail app I think you can only apply labels. the notification speed caused me to keep the gmail app on for notifications and I just go into stock e-mail to clean up my inbox.

sixftsix said:
I temporarily left notifications on for both the android e-mail app and the gmail app, both set to sync every 15 mins. the gmail app notifies much faster every time.
I want to use the stock e-mail app because I can move e-mails from my inbox to folders, where on the gmail app I think you can only apply labels. the notification speed caused me to keep the gmail app on for notifications and I just go into stock e-mail to clean up my inbox.
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So sync every 15 minutes doesn't kill battery.?
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yungskeeme said:
So sync every 15 minutes doesn't kill battery.?
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Actually Push email saves battery the most vs Sync every 5, 10 or whatever. In Sync mode the phone pulls data while in push mode the email client is sleep until it gets a ping from the server.

daraj said:
Actually Push email saves battery the most vs Sync every 5, 10 or whatever. In Sync mode the phone pulls data while in push mode the email client is sleep until it gets a ping from the server.
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Ok. Makes sense. Ima give the default email a try. Should I disable gmail and it's notifications to make it effective
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daraj said:
Actually Push email saves battery the most vs Sync every 5, 10 or whatever. In Sync mode the phone pulls data while in push mode the email client is sleep until it gets a ping from the server.
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how do you configure gmail to push?
in both apps the fastest settings I see is to sync every 15 minutes. gmail app usually notifies new mail faster than 15 minutes, and the e-mail app seems to take longer than 15 mins.

sixftsix said:
how do you configure gmail to push?
in both apps the fastest settings I see is to sync every 15 minutes. gmail app usually notifies new mail faster than 15 minutes, and the e-mail app seems to take longer than 15 mins.
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If you mean the native Gmail app then it pushes automatically no configuration needed, but in the Email client when you configure a gmail account account you simply don't have the option of push. I believe the quickest pull(Fetch) is 5 min.
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yungskeeme said:
Ok. Makes sense. Ima give the default email a try. Should I disable gmail and it's notifications to make it effective
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If you need to use the email client over the gmail app then yes disable sync inside gmail and untick notification.
Note: I'm not sure If i was clear but using gmail app saves you more battery(push)
Push=batter battery life (Gmail app)
Pull or Fetch= not so much.(email client)

daraj said:
If you mean the native Gmail app then it pushes automatically no configuration needed, but in the Email client when you configure a gmail account account you simply don't have the option of push. I believe the quickest pull(Fetch) is 5 min.
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If you need to use the email client over the gmail app then yes disable sync inside gmail and untick notification.
Note: I'm not sure If i was clear but using gmail app saves you more battery(push)
Push=batter battery life (Gmail app)
Pull or Fetch= not so much.(email client)
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ok, thanks, that explains it.
the quickest pull I see is 15 minutes.

daraj said:
If you mean the native Gmail app then it pushes automatically no configuration needed, but in the Email client when you configure a gmail account account you simply don't have the option of push. I believe the quickest pull(Fetch) is 5 min.
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If you need to use the email client over the gmail app then yes disable sync inside gmail and untick notification.
Note: I'm not sure If i was clear but using gmail app saves you more battery(push)
Push=batter battery life (Gmail app)
Pull or Fetch= not so much.(email client)
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Ok. I was confused at first. I got it. Sticking with gmail. Gets my notifications quicker. Thanks for the info.
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Stock Mail App vs. Gmail App

Can anyone specify the differences between the two apps? After first getting my Xoom I was noticing that I was getting multiple alerts for the same emails... after doing some digging i realized that both the Stock Mail app and Gmail were notifying me in separate instances (assuming Gmail app was pushing to the Xoom and the Stock Mail app was fetching every 15 minutes - hence 2 notifications).
I noticed that the Gmail app also allows search, so both search and push are included in the Gmail app. Are there any other true differences between the two?
green94 said:
Can anyone specify the differences between the two apps? After first getting my Xoom I was noticing that I was getting multiple alerts for the same emails... after doing some digging i realized that both the Stock Mail app and Gmail were notifying me in separate instances (assuming Gmail app was pushing to the Xoom and the Stock Mail app was fetching every 15 minutes - hence 2 notifications).
I noticed that the Gmail app also allows search, so both search and push are included in the Gmail app. Are there any other true differences between the two?
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Labels, folders, archives and starring all work in the gmail app. I don't use priority inbox, but I believe that works too.
But...why would you set up the stock email app for your gmail?
lanternca said:
But...why would you set up the stock email app for your gmail?
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I must have done it during the initial set up - I guess my question would be, why wouldn't you set up your Gmail through the Stock Mail App?
green94 said:
I must have done it during the initial set up - I guess my question would be, why wouldn't you set up your Gmail through the Stock Mail App?
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The Stock Mail App only has generic features that would work on most email platforms that you bring to it. If you have a GMail account you would want to use the GMail app because you can take advantage of the Gmail features, Search, Labels, Priority Box, and I'm pretty certain the Push is only for Gmail App which means your Stock Mail app periodically checks to a designated time but the GMail App gets mail pushed to it as it is received.
I import all of my other email accounts into gmail and give each a label which the Xoom handles beautifully. I'm not sure I knew there was a stock email app..lol
The other big difference is that the stock client does not allow you to chose the from address, it wont event reply from the address that was sent to
I use multiple mail address aliases and need to be able to reply from all of them but can't.
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sleeplessninja said:
The Stock Mail App only has generic features that would work on most email platforms that you bring to it. If you have a GMail account you would want to use the GMail app because you can take advantage of the Gmail features, Search, Labels, Priority Box, and I'm pretty certain the Push is only for Gmail App which means your Stock Mail app periodically checks to a designated time but the GMail App gets mail pushed to it as it is received.
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Perfect... I thought it would make more sense to use the stock app, but it appears I'm mistaken! Thanks for the help.

Yahoo mail working from stock email app

Ok, so I just wanted to share little-something with you guys here at XDA
As you probably know adding Yahoo mail from stock EMail app will not get you anywhere... BUT what I found working is next:
1) Go to Social hub app;
2) Add account type "other";
3) fill in your yahoo mail settings;
4) and yep, it will pass verification
5) yahoo mail will be automatically added to EMail app;
6) use your Yahoo mail without need for installing other email client
Greetings!
I setup using stock Email app itself without any problem. Did you tried the stock first?
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Of course I did I saw other people had this problem...
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Yahoo mail not giving push service when you add in stock email app.(b'coz yahoo doesn't support idle IMAP)
there is separate yahoo mail app on market by yahoo inc. Working fine for me with push mail support
Another third party client supports yahoo push service is seven mail.
I had no issue setting Yahoo up. If you use the default app auto setup it uses pop email. Don't use this use the manual option and setup as an imap email account. The settings are available with a quick google.
i tried adding yahoo in def mail client using auto and it didnt work. when added in described way auto gives samsung.imap.mail.yahoo.com for incoming mail client. so, this is quick way of adding yahoo without need for manual settings. i use yahoo as secondary email so this does the job.
When you mean default , I meant Samsung default email app. I used settings as Imap.mail.yahoo.com and smtp.mail.yahoo.com.
I then setup gmail and hotmail manually using the Microsoft exchange options and also had push email too if wanted.
So default Samsung email app works really well without using Google email app.
Stock email app only asked for my email address and configured my yahoo account automatically. Has worked fine since day 1.
kable said:
Stock email app only asked for my email address and configured my yahoo account automatically. Has worked fine since day 1.
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Exactly!
kable said:
Stock email app only asked for my email address and configured my yahoo account automatically. Has worked fine since day 1.
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Same as me, except mine is BT Yahoo but never had any issues with it getting the account settings
kable said:
Stock email app only asked for my email address and configured my yahoo account automatically. Has worked fine since day 1.
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+1, same for me. Worked since day 1
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I use the yahoo mail app for my note, I would love to use the stock email app but it does not support push notifications and I don't think its on yahoo's part for the push notifications as on my ipod I use the mail app and its push notifications work fine with my yahoo account so I'm thinking its the stock app that doesn't support push notifications and hopefully the email app has push notifications on ICS
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fabu09 said:
I use the yahoo mail app for my note, I would love to use the stock email app but it does not support push notifications and I don't think its on yahoo's part for the push notifications as on my ipod I use the mail app and its push notifications work fine with my yahoo account so I'm thinking its the stock app that doesn't support push notifications and hopefully the email app has push notifications on ICS
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Yup, hoping the same, i like the layout of the stock app, would like the same.
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Look how long ago my last post was, based on my old signature.

No push email for Yahoo, Corporate accounts using Exchange.

Hi,
While my iphone picks up email as and when they arrive, the gs3 doesnt have a Premium account service like the s2 had and one has to set the email frequency for it to check email manually.
The built in email app does not offer push on yahoo mail and corporate email on exchange.
It also doesn't set up corporate exchange accounts using google apps.
It only supports push for @gmail.com (not corporate gmail accounts using @ whatever.com using m.google.com as the server) and @hotmail.com accounts supports push on the native email app
This should happen automatically for each account like it does on the iphone, windows mobile and HTC.
cool story...now what?
Can anybody else confirm the OP? I'm waiting on a blue S3 to show up, I haven't yet taken the plunge. No Push-mail is a big bummer...
Of course it doesn't check your email if you set it to "never" - that is what never means...
And for push you need to use exchange not IMAP...
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AndroidZ28 said:
Of course it doesn't check your email if you set it to "never" - that is what never means...
And for push you need to use exchange not IMAP...
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I disagree, the s3 should have a feature called push or fetch, when u ask it to check email every 5 minutes that means it is being done manually not automatically this is not how the iphone or windows phone works, on imap on an iphone it downlads the email once the server receives it that is called push on. Windows phone it downloads it as and when email arrives. What you re talking about it a setting where u ask it to check the email every 5 or 10 minutes that is not push. This eats battery like hell. On the sg2 u could set a permium account and it had push email but sadly the s3 doesnt have push email, yes i know about exchange but without exchange also it should push email which it doesnt so thats ane pic fail for the s3.
What mail service are you all using? Push works fine for gmail, hotmail and any other corporate account.
Wait a bit for the next update, maybe it's included there.
Also pls change the thread name, because no push isn't true, it should be no push at imap.
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Im using gmail and yahoo and corporate all set to imap.
K-9 is my preferred email client, solves the problem.
dehaani said:
K-9 is my preferred email client, solves the problem.
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K9 keeps crashing on me. Any better alternatives?
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Samsung added the premium email service on the s2 which had true push email on imap. Thye havent added that on the s3 I wonder why.
I am going to have to sell this phone as it is useless for me.
The first few days i missed receiving some important emails on time and I had to manually refresh the emails and got them 6 hours late.
Epic fail Samsung, you have gone backwards!
viniturb0 said:
I disagree, the s3 should have a feature called push or fetch, when u ask it to check email every 5 minutes that means it is being done manually not automatically this is not how the iphone or windows phone works, on imap on an iphone it downlads the email once the server receives it that is called push on. Windows phone it downloads it as and when email arrives. What you re talking about it a setting where u ask it to check the email every 5 or 10 minutes that is not push. This eats battery like hell. On the sg2 u could set a permium account and it had push email but sadly the s3 doesnt have push email, yes i know about exchange but without exchange also it should push email which it doesnt so thats ane pic fail for the s3.
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I'm using Hotmail exchange and have peak and off peak set to push. Works fine.
So no fail
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viniturb0 said:
Im using gmail and yahoo and corporate all set to imap.
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Gmail, and ur corporate account should be set using active sync instead of IMAP. Or just use the native gmail app, coz that allows for labels and the all important bacon filter priority inbox.
Yahoo mail has its own app so u can download that
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K9 keeps crashing on me. Any better alternatives?
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maildroid
exchange works with gmail app right ?
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exchange works with gmail app right ?
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I can tell you gmail push service works with gmail app, and Hotmail works well with email app (exchange and set to push)
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Get yourself onto google apps and you will never think about crap like this again.
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viniturb0 said:
Hi,
While my iphone picks up email as and when they arrive, the gs3 doesnt have a Premium account service like the s2 had and have to set the email frequency for it to check email manually.
I have set up all accounts as imap and it still doesnt automatically pick up email if u set it to never check for emails but keep the email notifications on
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which account are u using??? push works perfectly for gmail/hotmial/corporate accounts for me..incase u see issues with gmail, configure it as exchange server with domain as 'm.google.com'. push gets enabled
Let me get this straight...
OP sets email refresh to "never", complains when no emails arrive.
Do i need to say anything else?
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No No No... iPhone doesn't have the "real" push mail like BBs do. And in my case, my S3 notifies me about the mail as soon as it arrives

No deep sleep with Hotmail

Guys after installing the 21.02 update of the official hotmail app My N4 don't go in deep sleep if I have push notification active in it. Do you have the same problem?
Anyone with the apk of previous version?
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I had that issue with the hotmail app and ended up doing some research on this a little while ago. Now I have the stock Android email app configured to Hotmail's active exchange server for push mail. 2 weeks in, no issues.
Michelechele said:
Guys after installing the 21.02 update of the official hotmail app My N4 don't go in deep sleep if I have push notification active in it. Do you have the same problem?
Anyone with the apk of previous version?
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Download this app and you're good to go!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5vYXNpc2ZlbmcuZ3JlZW5pZnkiXQ..
Push Hotmail
If you want push Hotmail, I highly recommend you use the stock android email app. Open the stock email app, start a new account, enter your Hot mail account and password, but instead clicking next, click Manual Setup. Click exchange. In the Domain/username tap there and put your full email a dress it it. Make sure to retain the slash before it. Keep the password section the same. For the server, delete the whole thing and enter "m.hotmail.com" scroll all the way down and click next. TADA!! Push hotmail without any third party app.
Note, this works with Hotmail, Live, and Outlook. The email address in the Domain/username accepts @Hot mail, @Live, or @Outlook! The server stays the same though. Google knows how to write their apps properly.
Sure Hotmail app has been update but thanks to Microsoft after this problem I have setted up the default email app and is great for hotmail.
I was going to configure it even on gmail but i don't understand why on hotmail it has push notification and with gmail only check in X min.
Btw deleted hotmail app.
weinerschnitzelboy said:
If you want push Hotmail, I highly recommend you use the stock android email app. Open the stock email app, start a new account, enter your Hot mail account and password, but instead clicking next, click Manual Setup. Click exchange. In the Domain/username tap there and put your full email a dress it it. Make sure to retain the slash before it. Keep the password section the same. For the server, delete the whole thing and enter "m.hotmail.com" scroll all the way down and click next. TADA!! Push hotmail without any third party app.
Note, this works with Hotmail, Live, and Outlook. The email address in the Domain/username accepts @Hot mail, @Live, or @Outlook! The server stays the same though. Google knows how to write their apps properly.
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I'm just using the default configuration that as server has dub-m.hotmail.com. ATM I don's see any problem using dub server. Why do you suggest the manual setup? Is it there any problem that i haven't seen yet?
Michelechele said:
Sure Hotmail app has been update but thanks to Microsoft after this problem I have setted up the default email app and is great for hotmail.
I was going to configure it even on gmail but i don't understand why on hotmail it has push notification and with gmail only check in X min.
Btw deleted hotmail app.
I'm just using the default configuration that as server has dub-m.hotmail.com. ATM I don's see any problem using dub server. Why do you suggest the manual setup? Is it there any problem that i haven't seen yet?
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Gmail does not allow push mail with apps anymore. They removed it as of Janurary 30, 2013 - first announced in December 2012. The only app that can do push mail is the Android gmail app, and not even outlook can do it.

Does The Default Mail App Push Email?

Hey Guys, just wondering if the default mail app pushes email. I didn't see the push option in the settings, all i saw was a check frequency option of every 15,30,60 minutes etc.... am i missing something? I don't want to use the gmail app.
No it doesn't. It only will if you use it with exchange. Only the gmail app uses push. There are a couple apps in Play Store that uses pushes service like K-9 Mail
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Yahoo mail app gives you notifications
97prelude said:
Hey Guys, just wondering if the default mail app pushes email. I didn't see the push option in the settings, all i saw was a check frequency option of every 15,30,60 minutes etc.... am i missing something? I don't want to use the gmail app.
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First time I try setting my Hotmail account in years due to the lack of exchange support, for my surprise it works now, and it pushes all messages, so in a summary, I assume that it will Push all Exchange Email accounts. regular Imap and POP just schedules to check Emails.

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