Stock Mail App vs. Gmail App - Xoom General

Can anyone specify the differences between the two apps? After first getting my Xoom I was noticing that I was getting multiple alerts for the same emails... after doing some digging i realized that both the Stock Mail app and Gmail were notifying me in separate instances (assuming Gmail app was pushing to the Xoom and the Stock Mail app was fetching every 15 minutes - hence 2 notifications).
I noticed that the Gmail app also allows search, so both search and push are included in the Gmail app. Are there any other true differences between the two?

green94 said:
Can anyone specify the differences between the two apps? After first getting my Xoom I was noticing that I was getting multiple alerts for the same emails... after doing some digging i realized that both the Stock Mail app and Gmail were notifying me in separate instances (assuming Gmail app was pushing to the Xoom and the Stock Mail app was fetching every 15 minutes - hence 2 notifications).
I noticed that the Gmail app also allows search, so both search and push are included in the Gmail app. Are there any other true differences between the two?
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Labels, folders, archives and starring all work in the gmail app. I don't use priority inbox, but I believe that works too.
But...why would you set up the stock email app for your gmail?

lanternca said:
But...why would you set up the stock email app for your gmail?
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I must have done it during the initial set up - I guess my question would be, why wouldn't you set up your Gmail through the Stock Mail App?

green94 said:
I must have done it during the initial set up - I guess my question would be, why wouldn't you set up your Gmail through the Stock Mail App?
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The Stock Mail App only has generic features that would work on most email platforms that you bring to it. If you have a GMail account you would want to use the GMail app because you can take advantage of the Gmail features, Search, Labels, Priority Box, and I'm pretty certain the Push is only for Gmail App which means your Stock Mail app periodically checks to a designated time but the GMail App gets mail pushed to it as it is received.

I import all of my other email accounts into gmail and give each a label which the Xoom handles beautifully. I'm not sure I knew there was a stock email app..lol

The other big difference is that the stock client does not allow you to chose the from address, it wont event reply from the address that was sent to
I use multiple mail address aliases and need to be able to reply from all of them but can't.
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sleeplessninja said:
The Stock Mail App only has generic features that would work on most email platforms that you bring to it. If you have a GMail account you would want to use the GMail app because you can take advantage of the Gmail features, Search, Labels, Priority Box, and I'm pretty certain the Push is only for Gmail App which means your Stock Mail app periodically checks to a designated time but the GMail App gets mail pushed to it as it is received.
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Perfect... I thought it would make more sense to use the stock app, but it appears I'm mistaken! Thanks for the help.

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GMail V. Email App Question

So, the 'GMail' app is fast and efficient. However, I dislike the look and layout of it. Also, I cannot sync my secondary account with the default GMail app.
I like the Samsung 'Email' application, however, I find that it is too slow in pulling email from Google's servers. When I am sent an email, the default GMail app pings me before my desktop computer. Mail is instantly pushed to the phone, in a delightful way. Then, five minutes later, 'Email' notifies me of the same message.
Is there any way to make the Samsung Email application behave in this way (instant email notifications)? If so, awesome. I have the phone set to check for new emails every thirty minutes. If I lower this time, it still isn't as quick as the 'GMail' app.
If it is possible to somehow push emails to the 'EMail' app in a speedy fashion, then my second question would be: "Is there an easy way - besides deleting the GMail account from the 'GMail' app - to have only one Email program active at a time? Or, perhaps, is there a way to set priority between the two programs? :/
I don't think there is man. Google has developed a hybrid type active sync for pushing email to the Gmail app. This is one of the benefits of using a Android phone if you use Gmail. When it comes to other email apps/clients, Gmail will push using IMAP. My buddy who has a iPhone uses Google Sync and is jealous of how fast I receive my email. He actually got mad at Google for not using the same technology in Google Sync. That's just one of the benefits of using Android with the Gmail app. It gets you the fastest email outside of using Exchange or Active Sync.
Can't you just continue to use the Gmail app for your primary account and the Samsung email app for your secondary account? I have both of my Gmail accounts paired with the Gmail app and my Verizon and Work email synced with the Samsung app. I don't really need instant email on my secondary accounts. If you need yours to be instant then why don't you just forward all of your mail from your secondary account to your Gmail account.
Jon C said:
So, the 'GMail' app is fast and efficient. However, I dislike the look and layout of it. Also, I cannot sync my secondary account with the default GMail app.
I like the Samsung 'Email' application, however, I find that it is too slow in pulling email from Google's servers. When I am sent an email, the default GMail app pings me before my desktop computer. Mail is instantly pushed to the phone, in a delightful way. Then, five minutes later, 'Email' notifies me of the same message.
Is there any way to make the Samsung Email application behave in this way (instant email notifications)? If so, awesome. I have the phone set to check for new emails every thirty minutes. If I lower this time, it still isn't as quick as the 'GMail' app.
If it is possible to somehow push emails to the 'EMail' app in a speedy fashion, then my second question would be: "Is there an easy way - besides deleting the GMail account from the 'GMail' app - to have only one Email program active at a time? Or, perhaps, is there a way to set priority between the two programs? :/
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No its not possible, exchange and Gmail (through Gmail client) are Push, other are not.
Well, my secondary account technically is a GMail account. My school has edu accounts through GMail, so the address ends in 'go.schoolname.edu'. Because of this, GMail has issues syncing that account (even though it is a Google Mail account).
Lame. :/
Oh well. Thanks, guys.
Download K9-Mail from the market. I have 2 outlook work emails & gmail all in K-9.
Best of all it's free.
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You can have two accounts linked on the Gmail app. Press menu and then add accounts.
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K-9 mail was able to do "instant" push via IMAP for me, but it really slowed my phone down. Try K-9 and if you find it slows your phone down too, try out MailDroid.
MailDroid doesn't slow my phone down at all and seems to do IMAP push well, but its a but light on features and polish.
You can import up to five other email accounts into your main gmail account. That way you only have to use the gmail servers for all your mail. I have all my pop mail linked to my gmail account and I get all my mail instantly. You can then label each account with a different color and filter them.
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I've setup all my gmail accounts in my phone(3 gmail). And if you have other email accounts such as aol, hotmail etc you can add those account on one of your gmail (login to the web) and have gmail fetch all those emails that way you have push email on those account

Mail or gmail ????

People, i want to know what do u use for Gmail account emails???
Do you use "mail" or "gmail" ???
Well,in mail you can set the synchronosation and retrival timings and frequency.
While using the "gmail" , u cannot set frequency of sync of mails.
Do suggest what is best for Gmail???
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Guess it's personal taste, but I myself prefer the Gmail app, since mail notifications appear pretty much the second the mail arrives, and not on the next sync
I prefer gmail app too. There is no synch time, because gmail app have push notification.
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I peter the Gmail app as well. Main reason is push notification and send as feature.
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I had the same dilemma, HTC mail or gmail....
The gmail app has at least 2 important features missing:
1. There is no pinch to zoom (you can't zoom, this can be very frustrating at times).
2. There is no notification for incoming mail in labels (you only get notified for the main inbox).
For these reasons I finally decided to use k9 mail. It has much more features than the gmail app, supports push as fast if not faster than the gmail app including for labels, and zoom works as well as with HTC mail.
Mail can of course push gmail as well. When setting up an account don't choose googlemail (POP3/IMAP), but set it as Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync using details as described on http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
I know it shows how to set it up on Windows Mobile, but you just need to use the same domain etc.
It will then push email just as it arrives to your mailbox. On my DHD it always beeps earlier than notification addon installed on Google Chrome on my PC when email arrives.
I'm using Gmail with all my other emails imported into it, so I only have to check one inbox to read mail from my AOL, MSN, Hotmail, Roadrunner, and of course, Gmail itself. Very nice mail app.
I use Gmail.
Gmail. If only because I can't be bothered setting up anything else.
Gmail. It's painless.
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mail
Mail (gmail push). just because i use widgets .
mean-machine said:
Mail can of course push gmail as well. When setting up an account don't choose googlemail (POP3/IMAP), but set it as Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync using details as described on http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
I know it shows how to set it up on Windows Mobile, but you just need to use the same domain etc.
It will then push email just as it arrives to your mailbox. On my DHD it always beeps earlier than notification addon installed on Google Chrome on my PC when email arrives.
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The problem with HTC mail is the same as with the gmail app : it doesn't push the labels; so any new mail you have set to go to a label will not get notified (for instance, I get no notification for my alias email that goes to a sub folder aka gmail label).
K9 Mail has solved this problem. It's the only free mail app so complete and it just "works" where the 2 others above fail.
Tbh, I do prefer Gmail but when I got a reply from co pilot I had to reply within their email and I couldn't because it did not allow me to edit via my phone, its a shame really as I needed to send the email whilst I was on the move, but comparing the two, I do prefer the Gmail overall. The normal email has problems syncing and sometimes brings up emails from ages ago which I had forgotten about
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I use Mail to sync with my my company's exchange server, mostly for calender and contacts so I know what im meant to be doing, I wont sync my mail unless there is something specific i need.
I still use gmail app for my gmail personal account.
I have found that HTC's exchange sync app really good, other people in the company have samsung androids or stock androids and have difficulties.
I haven't found a way of getting hold of attachments in the Gmail app... You can only view attachments if it's a document type that Gmail can handle.

No deep sleep with Hotmail

Guys after installing the 21.02 update of the official hotmail app My N4 don't go in deep sleep if I have push notification active in it. Do you have the same problem?
Anyone with the apk of previous version?
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I had that issue with the hotmail app and ended up doing some research on this a little while ago. Now I have the stock Android email app configured to Hotmail's active exchange server for push mail. 2 weeks in, no issues.
Michelechele said:
Guys after installing the 21.02 update of the official hotmail app My N4 don't go in deep sleep if I have push notification active in it. Do you have the same problem?
Anyone with the apk of previous version?
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Download this app and you're good to go!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5vYXNpc2ZlbmcuZ3JlZW5pZnkiXQ..
Push Hotmail
If you want push Hotmail, I highly recommend you use the stock android email app. Open the stock email app, start a new account, enter your Hot mail account and password, but instead clicking next, click Manual Setup. Click exchange. In the Domain/username tap there and put your full email a dress it it. Make sure to retain the slash before it. Keep the password section the same. For the server, delete the whole thing and enter "m.hotmail.com" scroll all the way down and click next. TADA!! Push hotmail without any third party app.
Note, this works with Hotmail, Live, and Outlook. The email address in the Domain/username accepts @Hot mail, @Live, or @Outlook! The server stays the same though. Google knows how to write their apps properly.
Sure Hotmail app has been update but thanks to Microsoft after this problem I have setted up the default email app and is great for hotmail.
I was going to configure it even on gmail but i don't understand why on hotmail it has push notification and with gmail only check in X min.
Btw deleted hotmail app.
weinerschnitzelboy said:
If you want push Hotmail, I highly recommend you use the stock android email app. Open the stock email app, start a new account, enter your Hot mail account and password, but instead clicking next, click Manual Setup. Click exchange. In the Domain/username tap there and put your full email a dress it it. Make sure to retain the slash before it. Keep the password section the same. For the server, delete the whole thing and enter "m.hotmail.com" scroll all the way down and click next. TADA!! Push hotmail without any third party app.
Note, this works with Hotmail, Live, and Outlook. The email address in the Domain/username accepts @Hot mail, @Live, or @Outlook! The server stays the same though. Google knows how to write their apps properly.
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I'm just using the default configuration that as server has dub-m.hotmail.com. ATM I don's see any problem using dub server. Why do you suggest the manual setup? Is it there any problem that i haven't seen yet?
Michelechele said:
Sure Hotmail app has been update but thanks to Microsoft after this problem I have setted up the default email app and is great for hotmail.
I was going to configure it even on gmail but i don't understand why on hotmail it has push notification and with gmail only check in X min.
Btw deleted hotmail app.
I'm just using the default configuration that as server has dub-m.hotmail.com. ATM I don's see any problem using dub server. Why do you suggest the manual setup? Is it there any problem that i haven't seen yet?
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Gmail does not allow push mail with apps anymore. They removed it as of Janurary 30, 2013 - first announced in December 2012. The only app that can do push mail is the Android gmail app, and not even outlook can do it.

Does The Default Mail App Push Email?

Hey Guys, just wondering if the default mail app pushes email. I didn't see the push option in the settings, all i saw was a check frequency option of every 15,30,60 minutes etc.... am i missing something? I don't want to use the gmail app.
No it doesn't. It only will if you use it with exchange. Only the gmail app uses push. There are a couple apps in Play Store that uses pushes service like K-9 Mail
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Yahoo mail app gives you notifications
97prelude said:
Hey Guys, just wondering if the default mail app pushes email. I didn't see the push option in the settings, all i saw was a check frequency option of every 15,30,60 minutes etc.... am i missing something? I don't want to use the gmail app.
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First time I try setting my Hotmail account in years due to the lack of exchange support, for my surprise it works now, and it pushes all messages, so in a summary, I assume that it will Push all Exchange Email accounts. regular Imap and POP just schedules to check Emails.

Email Client, don't want to use Gmail

Hey all,
So, I guess there was an update where Gmail takes over the native email client. Thing is, I don't want to use Gmail to manage the mail, I want to use the regular one. In the instructions on how to get Gmail out, is says to go to accounts, then select the POP/IMAP accounts you don't want managed by Gmail. I don't have that option, for me, Gmail is everywhere. When I try to add an account, it's Gmail.
Any idea on the Moto how I can go back? Uninstall Gmail? And any idea why the Moto Mail app is incompatible with the Moto X Pure?
Thanks
Apparently Moto came up with another one, but it shows as incompatible so far.......another waiting game i suppose.
http://m.androidcentral.com/motorola-brings-its-stock-email-app-google-play-tweaks-and-improvements
Gmail app somehow borked up my yahoo email in gmail app, when yahoo email forced a password change. Couldn't get it to work anymore and couldn't remove the instance of yahoo email from the app/accounts either. Sometimes I think Google intentionally sets things up to not work very well with competitors' stuff like this.
I'm using K-9 mail app for yahoo email now, works well enough for me.
Not seeing the moto email client on play...
I just gave up on pre installed mail apps altogether and have been using CloudMagic client as my default. Odd name I know, but its easily one of the best email clients I've used on android.
I just started using blue mail and really like the looks and feel. I used kaiten forever but it started giving me problems with this phone.
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I actually prefer to keep my emails separate. I use yahoo app for Yahoo mail. Gmail for my gmail accounts. Outlook for exchange and my Hotmail account.
I like it organized and separated better that way. Especially since I have two business accounts it helps to keep it organized and my exchange accounts always sync perfect via outlook
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I never use pre-installed email or Gmail client. Big fan of K-9 app. Give K-9 and other apps mentioned here a try, you may find one to your liking.
Gr8man001 said:
I never use pre-installed email or Gmail client. Big fan of K-9 app. Give K-9 and other apps mentioned here a try, you may find one to your liking.
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Always used k9 myself. TypeMail as show some promise lately for me as well.
I use inbox on phone gmail on computer.
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Another vote for K-9 Mail.
My issue with CloudMagic (if I remember correctly), they store your emails on their servers. They also spam you with ads unless you specifically opt-out.
You have to have an outside link to view the Moto email client on the play store. I wonder why it's not compatible with their flagship phone? I also would like to use this app.
For my work exchange account, Outlook is doing OK so far. But I'd sure like to find a way to force the new Moto mail app onto our devices.
I use Nine for exchange.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3&hl=en
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I use Nine for exchange.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3&hl=en
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This is the best.
Nine works great for exchange
jscat1 said:
I use Nine for exchange.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3&hl=en
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The best.
Does nine or k9 allow you to bypass exchange security like mailwise?
Thanks for all the suggestions, but has anyone found an answer to the original question? how do I default back to the stock email client on the Moto? The instructions Google provides don't match with what I see on my screen...
Thanks
the moto email client used to be the AOSP email client, until google made gmail app handle all mail types from what i understand. You would have to root and unlock to get the old AOSP mail app.
Theres a new moto mail app that is supposed to be on the new droid coming out but it shows incompatible for our pure, maybe in the future that will be available.

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