Firstly, on the whole, I love my s4. There are just a couple of niggles.
1) Google Music - on the s4 it stores the music on the 'internal sd' ie phone memory. The only way round this seems to be to root. As I have sky go, I would prefer not to have to root this phone.
2) storage space generally - ive vot a 64 gb card on order. Ideally I bad hoped to use some of this for music. The question is, with no apps to sd, no music for google music, what is the point in having an sd card?
If I could just get the music to work, id be happy. It is just unfortunate that I have a phone where I am worried there isnt enough space, and a 64gig card that cannot be used for anything!
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SlyTuk said:
Firstly, on the whole, I love my s4. There are just a couple of niggles.
1) Google Music - on the s4 it stores the music on the 'internal sd' ie phone memory. The only way round this seems to be to root. As I have sky go, I would prefer not to have to root this phone.
2) storage space generally - ive vot a 64 gb card on order. Ideally I bad hoped to use some of this for music. The question is, with no apps to sd, no music for google music, what is the point in having an sd card?
If I could just get the music to work, id be happy. It is just unfortunate that I have a phone where I am worried there isnt enough space, and a 64gig card that cannot be used for anything!
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Just move all the songs from the Music directory (or whatever directory Goggle puts them in) on the internal memory to the Music directory on the SD card. Create the Music directory on the root of the SD card if it does not exist. Then delete them on the internal storage. That's what we do for our Amazon purchased/downloaded music. The music app will automatically find them.
From having a look about it seems the files arent visible without root.
My question therefore still really exists. Unless rooted, what is the point of an sd card in an s4?
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SlyTuk said:
Firstly, on the whole, I love my s4. There are just a couple of niggles.
1) Google Music - on the s4 it stores the music on the 'internal sd' ie phone memory. The only way round this seems to be to root. As I have sky go, I would prefer not to have to root this phone.
2) storage space generally - ive vot a 64 gb card on order. Ideally I bad hoped to use some of this for music. The question is, with no apps to sd, no music for google music, what is the point in having an sd card?
If I could just get the music to work, id be happy. It is just unfortunate that I have a phone where I am worried there isnt enough space, and a 64gig card that cannot be used for anything!
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I currently link the Google Music uploader on my PC to my iTunes library so I can use the Google Music app with the cloud. I've come to really dislike the Google Music app so I'm happy this is forcing me to break free of it. I figured I would just use Samsung Kies and point it to my iTunes music folder and let it sync to the SD card (I ordered the 64GB SDXC one from Sandisk for $25 via Amazon Warehouse Deals). It can sync wirelessly via WiFi so that's a nice plus.
So with this setup I can use whatever music player I want, sync it with iTunes wirelessly, and not have to worry about what is in the cloud or on the device since it's all going on the SD card. I was initially worried about only having the 16GB model of the S4 until I thought through this process.
I read the title wrong.
SlyTuk said:
From having a look about it seems the files arent visible without root.
My question therefore still really exists. Unless rooted, what is the point of an sd card in an s4?
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Even if Google hides its files, you can still load ripped CD's and other downloaded music to the SD card like I mentioned above.
Plug your S4 into your computer and do some searching of the internal memory for the songs Google downloaded. I'm surprised they would be hidden from the user like that. Could be, though.
SlyTuk said:
can someone help me with these niggles about my s4?
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Sounds racist. :silly:
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While waiting for my microSD card to arrive, I want to try getting some music on the device, but apparently I can't do it no matter what I try. Is there an app in the marketplace or something that lets you use internal storage for music or something else? Thanks
zephir365 said:
While waiting for my microSD card to arrive, I want to try getting some music on the device, but apparently I can't do it no matter what I try. Is there an app in the marketplace or something that lets you use internal storage for music or something else? Thanks
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There isn't. Your best bet is to use a streaming music app like Last.fm or pandora.
the phone came with a 4gb card pre installed... why not use that one?
Hello all I am typing this on my new iconia. The tablet seems to always want to use internal memory for everything (pictures videos etc.)and does not offer app2sd or a way to even navigate to the microsd card without a 3rd party app like astro, so what is the SD card intended for?
It is a little odd there's no mention of it in the default file browser, isn't it?
It's not a primary feature; not when the tablet itself sports 32GB of storage, I guess. It was enough that Android supported it, so they bunged it in just because.
If you've filled up your 32GB I can see how it would be a hassle trying to use the external SD card as easily as you do the internal storage.
http://youtu.be/JmvCpR45LKA
You can never have to much storage. I keep my 32gb flash drive and 250gb hard drive close by.
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You can never have to much storage.
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Amen to that!! I've got 2.5Tb storage on my server, 1Tb on this PC, 1Tb on my PS3, about 700 megabytes in removable storage and then some in various gadgets.. and I STILL feel like I'm running out of space all the time!
Well my tablet is a 16gb and is running out of room due to offline maps. I had not really considered that the data would be handled differently than an android phone where the app lives in internal memory and the data was on the SD card.
I've moved all of my video and music to the external SD card; PowerAmp has no issues with the files being there (and has an option to look in any subfolder off /mnt/ to find the files.)
Since most of my music is in WMA format I don't use the default Music player very often and don't know if it's "smart" enough (i.e. been told) to look in a /Music folder on the external card.
I uploaded 457 songs to Google Music. I did not want to stream all the time so I checked off that everysong be downloaded physically to the device. It all went swell but I'd like to move the songs to my SD card and I can't find any folder where the music would be stored at all. The App size grew, so I know the songs are in there. Especially since I can play them without wifi or Mobile Data enabled. But I have NO idea where to look as media, music, etc folders are all empty.
Am I missing something? It is a stock rom S4 rooted with some stuff frozen but I don't believe anything frozen is related since Google Play operates perfectly short of the fact that I can not locate the physical files.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ge...es-android-store-google-play-music-files.html
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Thanks. Since I have the S4, I assume there is something SLIGHTLY different. I tried everything I could find and while all processes finished correctly, the end result wasn't he same. The music would not store anywhere different.
I also got Google music + v 1.1 and when I type the alternative save location, all the music that JUST worked, loses all artwork and say "storage full" when attempting to play on a COMPLETELY empty SD card. I only have 4 free GB and about 10GB of music and this is driving me crazy.
I'll just have to physically add music to the device and I assume GMusic will just play from it?
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Internal memory only. Hence why a 16gb S4 is too small a memory size.
Sorta going off topic a tad, but here's how to store Google Music tracks on your SD card: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYFw9bEAzM8
I'm not sure if it'll work on the S4, as I don't have one to try out just yet, but hopefully it does!
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I uploaded 457 songs to Google Music. I did not want to stream all the time so I checked off that everysong be downloaded physically to the device. It all went swell but I'd like to move the songs to my SD card and I can't find any folder where the music would be stored at all. The App size grew, so I know the songs are in there. Especially since I can play them without wifi or Mobile Data enabled. But I have NO idea where to look as media, music, etc folders are all empty.
Am I missing something? It is a stock rom S4 rooted with some stuff frozen but I don't believe anything frozen is related since Google Play operates perfectly short of the fact that I can not locate the physical files.
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My advice Google Music + S4 is a really mess we don't have enough storage space to install more than 3 large games let along our music collection when Google insist on internal storage only.
Your best and quickest option without rooting is to download your music via Google Music webapp then place the files on your SD card. Not ideal i know but a workaround till Google fixes the music app.
About to jump ship from Iphone4s for an s4 because I fell in love with my new google all access subscription. My only concern is if there is a way to pin all access music to an external SD. This is really the deciding factor for which I would pick up this phone.
Supposedly it would save it to an ext sd card for offline use. I could sign up for a trial and let you know.
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Supposedly it would save it to an ext sd card for offline use. I could sign up for a trial and let you know.
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i was able to trick google music by creating a "music" folder on the sd card, and then creating a shortcut to this folder in place of the folder where google music usually stores stuff.
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i was able to trick google music by creating a "music" folder on the sd card, and then creating a shortcut to this folder in place of the folder where google music usually stores stuff.
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Where does google music usually store stuff? and im guessing you have to root the device to replace the specific folder? Also have you\ confirmed this to work with all access music and not just purchased songs?
Just bought a 64gb Samsung evo Micro Sd card for my Stock unrooted 32gb Pure on MM.Just wondering are most of you guys running your Sd cards as internal or external????If I'm correctI heard Google play music has trouble reading music that's on the external. I currently have about 10gb available of my 32gb after using it for a month.
I'm using a 128GB card as external storage because I need to move large files between multiple apps. Internal storage is probably better if you're running multi-gigabyte games.
If this is your first microSD card: Google hates microSD cards because they compete with their online apps that provide continuous marketing data. Google crippled microSD cards in KitKat 4.4, forcing users to root or return their new phones. Lollipop introduced an ugly-as hell file browser that can, in a very obscure and unreliable way, grant an application permission to access the microSD card. Marshmallow allows you to semi-merge a microSD card, with warnings that you're slowing down your phone, or stay with the Lollipop permission method. Also in Marshmallow, microSD storage has a new file path that changes whenever the card is reformatted or replaced.
Yeah, I've replaced the ****ty Google apps with offline apps. Thank you Moto!
"If I'm correct I heard Google play music has trouble reading music that's on the external."
If this is the case I'm curious if this also is the same with Rhapsody, Spotify, etc., . . .?
opti1 said:
"If I'm correct I heard Google play music has trouble reading music that's on the external."
If this is the case I'm curious if this also is the same with Rhapsody, Spotify, etc., . . .?
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Google play music will at random delete your downloaded play music on an external card. Happened a few times to me.
Thanks just trying to figure out if I should use card as internal or just keep it external, since my phone is 32gb and I don't use to many large apps
Do not convert to Adaptive Storage. That feature is so full of bugs. Just look at the threads on this forum.
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Just bought a 64gb Samsung evo Micro Sd card for my Stock unrooted 32gb Pure on MM.Just wondering are most of you guys running your Sd cards as internal or external????If I'm correctI heard Google play music has trouble reading music that's on the external. I currently have about 10gb available of my 32gb after using it for a month.
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opti1 said:
"If I'm correct I heard Google play music has trouble reading music that's on the external."
If this is the case I'm curious if this also is the same with Rhapsody, Spotify, etc., . . .?
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Answering my own question . . . on my phone, with the SD card set to external, under Advanced Settings \ 'Choose music download location' , Rhapsody gives me two recommended options. The first option, /storage/emulated/0/Android/data/com.rhapsody.files didn't work. The second option, /storage/0000-0000/Android/data/com.rhapsody.files does work. The downloaded music files show up there and play in Rhapsody on the phone without issues. If this continues as I add more and more music I'll be a really happy camper . . . up to 128GB of downloaded music at 320kbps . . .