Turn off display without going to sleep - Windows 8 General

Device : Samsung ativ smart pc (or any clover trail tablet)
I can't get the tablet to just to turn off the display without going to sleep which i noticed will kill any active data connection (downloads, video buffering, updates, data logging)
I noticed that the value of "turn display after" in the power options must be the same value as "put computer to sleep after"
After some search on the internet about the "connected standby" and disabling the "desktop activity moderator" by using " sc config dam start=disabled "
But i couldn't get it to work
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...t/3849b335-67c6-4606-a443-9dacf4040ace?page=2
Any ideas

DynamicRam said:
Device : Samsung ativ smart pc (or any clover trail tablet)
I can't get the tablet to just to turn off the display without going to sleep which i noticed will kill any active data connection (downloads, video buffering, updates, data logging)
I noticed that the value of "turn display after" in the power options must be the same value as "put computer to sleep after"
After some search on the internet about the "connected standby" and disabling the "desktop activity moderator" by using " sc config dam start=disabled "
But i couldn't get it to work
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...t/3849b335-67c6-4606-a443-9dacf4040ace?page=2
Any ideas
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All I do is, I create a new power plan named "download mode", set the setting to 'never sleep' and change the close lid action to just 'turn off display', and for the power consumption I set it exactly like the power saving mode to conserve battery. So whenever I want to leave my laptop alone while downloading, I just have to switched my power plan to 'download mode' and simply close my lid.

nikctsh said:
All I do is, I create a new power plan named "download mode", set the setting to 'never sleep' and change the close lid action to just 'turn off display', and for the power consumption I set it exactly like the power saving mode to conserve battery. So whenever I want to leave my laptop alone while downloading, I just have to switched my power plan to 'download mode' and simply close my lid.
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Did you do it on a laptop or a tablet ?, I Will try and see
Edit : it doesn't work on tablets, there are only 3 selections "do nothing, shutdown, sleep"

DynamicRam said:
Did you do it on a laptop or a tablet ?, I Will try and see
Edit : it doesn't work on tablets, there are only 3 selections "do nothing, shutdown, sleep"
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I do it on my win8 laptop, but I think there should be much difference in term of power plan for both tablet and laptop? You might need to change the setting to 'do nothing' then, does this still cut off your data connection? In my case, under sleep setting there is one option for 'never' .

If it is set to do nothing you can't turn off the display with the power button
This is a known issue with clover trail processors which goes into sleep mode when the display turns off
According to this i may assume that all legacy desktop apps will not be able to take advantage of the connected stand by mode present in the new clover trail soc
To confirm this the downloads in metro IE won't stop when entering sleep mode unlike desktop IE

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Keeping wifi from turning off?

quite possibly a silly question
Is there a way to keep it from disconnecting when the phone goes to sleep?
Because if i want to keep bejive on, when i wake up the phone it tries to connect through 3G...
oh and.. in a related matter, is there something i can do so it asks me if i want to connect to 3G, instead of just connecting automatically?
mesaboogie said:
Is there a way to keep it from disconnecting when the phone goes to sleep?
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get schaps advanced configuration tool link
in the tool click menu>more settings>connections>Enable wifi on standby mode.
click ok > done. reboot the device. that's it.
wifi remains active when the phone goes in standby.
(when the phone is set to blank screen mode wifi turns off anyway. this seems not to be configurable.)
I think is easier to unthick to turn off screen....Or to dimm light after few second unthick both battery proprties advanced,....
Hope you get it

Keeping WiFi alive doesn't work anymore!

I set up the WiFi standby rules to "never", so wifi should be always on even when my device is in standby mode.
This worked very good at the beginning, but since some days WiFi is NOT kept alive. As soon as the device is going into sleep mode i will lose WiFi connection. The WiFi standbye rule is still correctly set to "never".
Thats really lame because i use locale to update my RSS Feeds at home over WiFi on certain time slots. But i get no updates since wifi is not active when the device is sleeping.
Anybody an idea what the problem is? As i said it worked for 2 weeks and suddenly its not working anymore.
Won't that drain the battery to Kingdom Come if you do leave it on on standby? I used to do that on the Tytn II I used to have, and the battery died after 2 hours!
samo.chan said:
Won't that drain the battery to Kingdom Come if you do leave it on on standby? I used to do that on the Tytn II I used to have, and the battery died after 2 hours!
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well i wouldn't say 2 hours, should be more than that. But i'm only activating wifi at home, and at nights my device is plugged to ac adaptor. So battery is not an issue in my case, and i want to use the better bandwidth at home. I just dont know why is suddenly stopped working...
Settings > Wireless controls > Wi-Fi Settings > Menu > Advanced > Wi-Fi sleep policy. When finished press Menu and then Save. Done.
The "Menu Button to save" Hint did it! thanks!
I always chose the option, but forgot to save via menu button and pressed the back button.
The strange thing here is: when i was coming back to this menu later it would still show the correct setting (WiFi always on), even though i hadn't saved it via menu button. But it wouldn't work, because wifi would be deactivated.
The back button will save your last selection, but won't activate the option!
This is really one of Androids problems: you just don't have one standard way of interacting with the system on many levels. Sometimes "back" button is enough (or the only way) to store your data, other times you have to press hardware buttons to save...
hmm the problem seems to be elsewhere: today in the morning the connection was lost again when i took the phone out of sleep mode. i could see the wifi icon, but the apps couldnt connect to the net (my rss feeds hadn't been updated).
Seems like each time i deactivate wifi manually (when leaving home) the wifi rules settings will be lost, and i have to change the wifi rules again and save the settings. Otherwise wifi won't be kept alive...that's really annoying.
maybe i have to download the "keep wifi alive" app after all from the market...
What make and model is your AP?
it's a netgear router, i will check the exact model today and post it here.
hmm i forgot to check the model, but i changed my router settings yesterday.
the router was set to disconnect after 60 minutes, when the connected device is not using the connection.
i changed that, so the connection is not reset at all, but still as soon as my device goes to sleep mode the wifi connection is basically dead.
After taking the phone out of sleep mode, i can see the "wifi connected" icon still there, but no app has any internet connection.

[Q] Data does not sync while hd2 is on stand by

I have setup the phone to sync weather for example every half an hour. If the phone is on stand by it does not sync. It is as if it turns off the data connection. Any help would be appreciated.
Any ideas? It will only sync when the phone is awake and unlocked? If the phone is locked it doesn't sync
Im surpriesed nobody can help with this!
You are certain it is only the weather that is not auto updating?
sharkie405 said:
You are certain it is only the weather that is not auto updating?
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That is the only thing I have noticed so far.
No help at all? Basicily data does not sync at all when the phone is on stand by. It is as if the data connection disconnects. I cant seem to work out how to "keep it alive" Any help would be appreciated.
GhostXSeries, what activity do you expect from your phone in stand by (sleep) mode?
Sleep mode also called "standby mode" is an inactive state of the device that is quickly brought back into action by touching any keyboard key or pressing the on/off switch. It is used to save battery power.
In sleep mode the screen is turned off, all system processes are suspended (including data transfer), and the CPU is throttled down to its lowest power state - no activity. However, all instructions and data still reside in memory, and dynamic RAM memory chips require power to hold their content.
So what kinda sync do you want to have?
AndrewSh said:
GhostXSeries, what activity do you expect from your phone in stand by (sleep) mode?
Sleep mode also called "standby mode" is an inactive state of the device that is quickly brought back into action by touching any keyboard key or pressing the on/off switch. It is used to save battery power.
In sleep mode the screen is turned off, all system processes are suspended (including data transfer), and the CPU is throttled down to its lowest power state - no activity. However, all instructions and data still reside in memory, and dynamic RAM memory chips require power to hold their content.
So what kinda sync do you want to have?
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The main one I would like to have updated is the weather. I do not see the point of being able to set the weather to automticly update every half an hour if the phone does not do it while in stand by mode. If I turn the phone on and update maually it works fine. Is there any way to sort this?
My phone will automatically update itself if the set amount of time as passed while it was in standby mode. Meaning, if I set it to autoupdate every hour and I've had my phone in standby mode for 2 hours, when I wake it up, it will automatically sync the weather and any other data that should have been syncing during it's standby phase. Does your phone not do this as well?
There is also an app called "Screen Off" which will ONLY turn off the screen and not put your phone in stand by mode which means that all data and such will continue to function while your screen is off.
Oh and I was waiting on a definitive repsonse to the "only weather" question I asked. Obviously, just your weather not updating properly and ALL your data not updating properly are two very different problems.
I did not read the first post carefully. So you mean - the system timers do not work properly - they don't wake up your phone from standby for weather update?
I have mine set to do the same, but fo example for again the weather, I have it set to update every 1 hours, when I leave the phone on overnight and check it in the morning it does not update untill I press the manual update button.
Say I had the phone updated at 11pm and put it on stand by, check the phone at 8am the last update time was 11pm. It will stay at 11pm and only when I press the update button does it then update. It is not an overly big thing but I am under the impression that If I set the phone to update every hour even if it is on stand by or not the latest it should be behind is 59 minutes!

Turning off the LCD without triggering the Sleep Mode is not possible in CloverTrails

Hi everyone,
I have a ThinkPad Tablet 2. Last night I wanted to download a file, but I had a problem. I started my download through Internet Download Manager, but I couldn't turn off the display without stopping the download progress. This means Windows 8 translates "Turn off Monitor" to "Sleep Mode" so every background task stops.
I don't want to see the bright light of the screen ( even at lowest ) when I go to sleep, and more important, the health of display is a concern so I dont want it to be always on.
So I asked. And so far every app that has written for turning the display off, is somehow faulty, and it seems its just because Clover Trail which has Connected Standby thing.
I've tested NirCMD, RefreshLock, AutoHotKey and TurnOffLCD. NirCMD, RefreshLock and AutoHotKey trigger sleep mode right away. But TurnOffLCD turns of the display and download continues, but only for a time. After an unpredictable amount of time, device does not interact any more.
So what's the catch ?
Thanks in advance.
Did you find any work around for this issue ?

[Q] Dell Venue Pro 8 - Set "Sleep" to Never?

Hi All,
I recently purchased a DVP8 and I love this thing. Problem is, it suffers from wifi issues in that once it goes to sleep, the wifi automatically goes to "limited" and I need to retoggle the wifi setting to get it connected. I've tried all kinds of fixes - uninstall windows updates and reinstalling drivers, but to no avail.
So I basically said screw it, and set "sleep mode" to never on the power management option, and no more wifi issues. Seems like the wifi doesn't reactive properly when coming out to sleep mode. My question is - will this damage the tablet in the long run? In terms of battery life, I would think the main factor is the screen on time. I can just turn the screen off with a tap of the power button. Is there really that big of a difference?
Thanks!
Pretty sure on tablets like the DVP8, tapping Power is the same as letting it go into Sleep through inactivity (called "Connected Standby"). Most Atom tablets don't have a different sleep mode than that, not even just turning the screen off. I haven't checked on the DVP8 specifically, though; maybe it's different from the others...
It won't damage the tablet to stay on all the time, so long as you aren't running the battery all the way down. That does damage it, a bit.

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