I set up the WiFi standby rules to "never", so wifi should be always on even when my device is in standby mode.
This worked very good at the beginning, but since some days WiFi is NOT kept alive. As soon as the device is going into sleep mode i will lose WiFi connection. The WiFi standbye rule is still correctly set to "never".
Thats really lame because i use locale to update my RSS Feeds at home over WiFi on certain time slots. But i get no updates since wifi is not active when the device is sleeping.
Anybody an idea what the problem is? As i said it worked for 2 weeks and suddenly its not working anymore.
Won't that drain the battery to Kingdom Come if you do leave it on on standby? I used to do that on the Tytn II I used to have, and the battery died after 2 hours!
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Won't that drain the battery to Kingdom Come if you do leave it on on standby? I used to do that on the Tytn II I used to have, and the battery died after 2 hours!
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well i wouldn't say 2 hours, should be more than that. But i'm only activating wifi at home, and at nights my device is plugged to ac adaptor. So battery is not an issue in my case, and i want to use the better bandwidth at home. I just dont know why is suddenly stopped working...
Settings > Wireless controls > Wi-Fi Settings > Menu > Advanced > Wi-Fi sleep policy. When finished press Menu and then Save. Done.
The "Menu Button to save" Hint did it! thanks!
I always chose the option, but forgot to save via menu button and pressed the back button.
The strange thing here is: when i was coming back to this menu later it would still show the correct setting (WiFi always on), even though i hadn't saved it via menu button. But it wouldn't work, because wifi would be deactivated.
The back button will save your last selection, but won't activate the option!
This is really one of Androids problems: you just don't have one standard way of interacting with the system on many levels. Sometimes "back" button is enough (or the only way) to store your data, other times you have to press hardware buttons to save...
hmm the problem seems to be elsewhere: today in the morning the connection was lost again when i took the phone out of sleep mode. i could see the wifi icon, but the apps couldnt connect to the net (my rss feeds hadn't been updated).
Seems like each time i deactivate wifi manually (when leaving home) the wifi rules settings will be lost, and i have to change the wifi rules again and save the settings. Otherwise wifi won't be kept alive...that's really annoying.
maybe i have to download the "keep wifi alive" app after all from the market...
What make and model is your AP?
it's a netgear router, i will check the exact model today and post it here.
hmm i forgot to check the model, but i changed my router settings yesterday.
the router was set to disconnect after 60 minutes, when the connected device is not using the connection.
i changed that, so the connection is not reset at all, but still as soon as my device goes to sleep mode the wifi connection is basically dead.
After taking the phone out of sleep mode, i can see the "wifi connected" icon still there, but no app has any internet connection.
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Hi there,
With my BlueAngel I could leave the WiFi on all night as when the phone was switched off it did not eat up the battery - when the phone was switched on it would spend a couple of seconds reconnecting to the wireless point.
The Universal seems to behave in the same way, yet it eats up all the battery overnight even when I have switched the phone off and it is not connected to the WiFi access point.
Is there some setting or registry key I can alter to fix this?
Cheers,
Quilty
@Qulity, if you don't close PIE I have found the battery can be drained. I assume overnight you are using Flight Mode.
Are you closing the flip and presuming that the device gets turned off or have you actually set your device to turn off after a fixed period of inactivity in the power settings?
If it is the former, then the device actually does not turn off if there is any activity in the background like active GPRS or WiFi etc. A simple solution to this would be to press the hard-ware on/off button once you are done irrespective of whether wfi is active or not in the background.
Try it out and post your results here.
My device is set to turn off after 2 mins on battery power, but I made a special point of turning it off with the hardware button before testing last night. As I said before my BlueAngel never behaved like this.
my jasjar was turned off yesterday, and every 5min i heard sound for new wifi network!! same problem, i solved it with turnig wifi off!! any other solutions?
Will Wifi drain my battery even when in sleep mode ?
I charged my phone last night as I always do right up to 100%. Left it in sleep mode and went to bed.
Received a call this morning and when the phone switched on noticed my battery was on 26% and it was trying to connect to wifi.
Is wifi similar to bluetooth in that I believe bluetooth will still be active and receiving in sleep mode and will so drain the battery ? I could have sworn I have left wifi on before in sleep mode and it didnt drain the battery, but maybe I am wrong.
So will wifi in sleep drain my battery to that extent ie from 100% to 26% from about 10.30 last night to 10am this morning ?
The wierd thing is I was playing with it all day yesterday and the battery only got to 39% or something.
Is something wrong ?
yes, leaving your wifi on will cause battery drain. If there's any traffic, this gets worse
Also activesync may have been running and trying to connect every 10 minutes or so. The activesync problem has been mentioned in another thread.
Just hope its just battery drain and not a fault.
Yes, I second the observation... 2 hours powered off drains 40% battery power...
That sucks, the blueangel didn't do that. It automatically turned wireless off on shutdown and turned it on again on wakeup.
Now I'll have to get used to doing that manually... :?
If you still have the BA, or if somebody else could check, look for this key in the registry:
HKLM\System\CurrentontrolSet\Control\Power\State\Suspend
There will be various values there. Default = 3, means state D3, which is the suspend state.
If there are any other values there, please note the value name, and the value of it.
If there aren't, check whether there are any subkeys.
For example, the Qtek 9100 has subkey {98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-ADE5367E5006} which, if you look under HKLM\System\CurrentontrolSet\Control\Power\State\Interfaces\, you'll see is "Power-manageable NDIS miniports". Its default value is 4 for state D4, which is the -off- state.
Basically, I suspect, or rather expect, that the BA will have another value or subkey there which will refer to the wireless connection, and set its state to 4 as well. If that's not the case, then it's being handled more directly by whatever power manager adjustments they have made - rather than letting Windows CE's power management handle it as above.
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Yes, I second the observation... 2 hours powered off drains 40% battery power...
That sucks, the blueangel didn't do that. It automatically turned wireless off on shutdown and turned it on again on wakeup.
Now I'll have to get used to doing that manually... :?
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The daft thing is when you switch your device back on, you arnt connected to the wireless network and it has to find a signal again. So its like its keeping the wifi switched on but for no reason whatsoever !
What would be cool is if on putting the device into sleep mode it would automatically put the wifi into low power mode so you could leave it on without it whacking your battery and you could possibly receive msn alerts.
That was sort of what the BA did.. :?
I still have it but with a broken screen
So unfortunately can't check, maybe someone else?
I think I've found the way to deactivate wifi again when the manager doesn't want to. Tap on the OS's connectivity icon at the top of the screen. It may say Enable wifi or disable wifi. If it says activate, tap once to activate and once again to deactivate. If it says deactivate just tap once. Then go into the wireless manager again, it should now be off. Works for mine at least
Hi Guys,
I got my HD2 today and i have to say i am impressed!
I only have one problem which i am not able to resolve.
When i turn on WiFi, it wont turn off during sleep mode (when i turn off the screen). i need to manually turn it on or off. this is how it came out of the box.
I wonder if other HD2 users are having the same problem / found a solution?
I tried advanced config tool, and i unchecked the "wifi during sleepmode" setting, but after each reboot the settings just come back.
Any help would be appreciated.
Hi mate, you should look this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582108
I thought that guy just want to keep WIFI on but you did.
thanks man but it does not help me with my problem. I cant seem to be able to get WiFi to auto turn off when in standby. the reg tweak will work until you reboot the device. after reboot the WiFi again won't turn off when in sleep mode unless I manually turn it off.
Bump.
Can any other HD2 owner please confirm if this is happening on his device too?
Same problem.
HDtweak and AdvanConfig does not work. After soft reset, wifi-on-standby is back ON (checked).
Been trying to find a Auto-Disconnect for GPRS(HSDPA) but the above 2 apps does not work too.
have you tried to change wifi power settings to high? I think it does work then. I guess the medium setting is something special...it keeps the wifi connection alive in standby, but also doesn't consume much power. I have an exchange connection active, so i always need an internet connection. The moment i turn on wifi at home, it stays on, even in standby, and my data connection over 3G disconnects. My exchange still works perfectly...and no huge power drain! My wifi power setting is on the medium setting...
Yes, I can confirm I'm encountering this issue too - on my HD2.
Strange, 'cos I wasn't at first, I'm sure - I remember the wi-fi notification icon flashing when resuming from sleep.
glenner05, can you confirm that you can get wi-fi to sleep please?
Hmm.. thought it might be connected to the htckeepwifionwhenunattended registry value but mine's set already to 0.
There're others trying to do the opposite!
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524490)
Anyone else found a solution?
I think HTC made this by design. If you turn GPRS data off and leave Wifi on while in standby you will be surprised how low the power utilization is.
I tested and with GPRS data off and Wifi ON, in standby you lose about 2% battery per hour...that's nothing.
It seems that on the HD2 the Wifi power consumption is really optimized so no real need to turn
I think HTC made this by design. If you turn GPRS data off and leave Wifi on while in standby you will be surprised how low the power utilization is.
I tested and with GPRS data off and Wifi ON, in standby you lose about 2% battery per hour...that's nothing.
It seems that on the HD2 the Wifi power consumption is really optimized so no real need to turn
Mine is on default Wi-Fi settings and when it goes into standby, wi-fi goes off.
Paul
Yeah goes of in sleep mode, if you get wifi toggle, you can choose to keep it on or turn it off when you like .
Shame the grps is still a problem....
pgamble and jrvenge: you really mean wifi switches off on the device when it goes to sleep? Ie. you see it disconnect from your router or something?
jrvenge: what did you mean by, "if you get wifi toggle"?
clubtech: when I read your post I agreed with you, maybe. I can't now be certain I remembered correctly that I'd seen wifi reconnect. And yes, the power consumption does seem low
There is a cab floating about here that enables you to force the wifi on always or turn it off.
If you forc on it stays on, if you turn of it goes off.
Return to normal and the hd2 does its power saving thing, so im all sorted there, just need a timeout on the gprs now.
If you cant find it let me know. It works a treat.
can youplease post the cab ? I have been looking for something like this .
Sure pm me your mail and i will send it
GPRS Disconnecting software here fella's, tested and working on my HD2 100%
May also turn off wifi but i've not loked yet, just about to leave for work so will check later!! lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587018
Ok just tried and it does not do what we want with WiFi
Yes ... if device goes to standby, when it comes out .. you see wi-fi searching to connect again ... so it definitely disconnects and the reconnects when it comes on again.
Paul.
Yup your right!
If it's in balanced or best battery mode then it turns off in standby and reconnects/searches again when you press a button to bring up the lock screen.
Was wondering if its possible to keep the wireless still turned on when the phone goes to standby. As in 3G is always on, thus always giving me new emails
Hmm #33 may be able to help you?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
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Was wondering if its possible to keep the wireless still turned on when the phone goes to standby. As in 3G is always on, thus always giving me new emails
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Easy....
Download Shap's Advanced Config Tool. There is an option to keep the Wifi on even when the phone goes on standby.
Once Advanced Config Tool installed, launch it, go to Menu/More settings/connections/Enable Wifi on Standby.
also I would recommand you to download a basic freeware named ScreenOff (by Applied PDA software), and use it to turn off the backlight without turning off the Wifi.
I've always having trouble to maintain the WiFi connection whether it's using battery or AC.
I've installed the Advanced Config Tool, the "Enable WiFi on Standby" indicated already enabled. Then I used the ScreenOff. After about 10 seconds, the WiFi connection was lost as I verified it by pinging the HD2 from a PC. It's plug into AC all the time.
However if leave the HD2 just "dim the screen", that seems to be the only way to maintain the WiFi. Obviously set it not to go into standby after 30mins (the default value).
Are you able to maintain the WiFi on HD2?
Yes. No problem here.
when you go into wifi advanced settings you can select power mode. when you set power mode in the medium setting, wifi keeps connected even in standby! and it also doesn't drain your battery while in standby. just try it. first select high power mode and turn phone in standby. wifi connection is lost. when you turn it back in, you will see wifi connecting.
with power in the middle setting, turning phone in standby keeps wifi alive, with very low power consumption. and when you turn phone back on, you will see that wifi is already connected.
i use wifi all the time when at home. my data connection is turned off. and still my push mails are recei ing through wifi!
Not that easy, I tried all power modes and in all occations it whent of after 1 minute (ping timeout). Weird that all roms behave so differently
Speaking of pinging your HD2... when your wifi is enabled and IDLE, what ping results do you get?
My HD2 acts very strange. when my wifi connectivity is on & IDLE (no data activity, device is not in standby mode), my ping results vary from 50ms in average to 200+ and sometimes I'm experiencing even higher spikes of 500ms+.
I have tried to change the wifi's adapter power scheme to "best performance", but it doesn't seem to change something.
However, as long as there is an activity, my ping replies from the HD2 seem to be fine (less than 15/10ms).
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Speaking of pinging your HD2... when your wifi is enabled and IDLE, what ping results do you get?
My HD2 acts very strange. when my wifi connectivity is on & IDLE (no data activity, device is not in standby mode), my ping results vary from 50ms in average to 200+ and sometimes I'm experiencing even higher spikes of 500ms+.
I have tried to change the wifi's adapter power scheme to "best performance", but it doesn't seem to change something.
However, as long as there is an activity, my ping replies from the HD2 seem to be fine (less than 15/10ms).
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seems like some powersaving feature... when idle, why should the wifi chip work at top speed.. just like cpu scaling....
my power saving slider is in the middle and still when the screen goes off and I switch it back on the wifi is reconnecting.
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when you go into wifi advanced settings you can select power mode. when you set power mode in the medium setting, wifi keeps connected even in standby! and it also doesn't drain your battery while in standby. just try it. first select high power mode and turn phone in standby. wifi connection is lost. when you turn it back in, you will see wifi connecting.
with power in the middle setting, turning phone in standby keeps wifi alive, with very low power consumption. and when you turn phone back on, you will see that wifi is already connected.
i use wifi all the time when at home. my data connection is turned off. and still my push mails are recei ing through wifi!
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Have you done the ping test from another PC/laptop on your network? Wait for about 1 minute after the screen is off and if you still can ping your HD2, I think it's probably your push mail somehow manage to maintain the wifi connection. I might try that if that's the case as I've tried absolutely everything else and so far abosolutely nothing can keep the wifi constantly on if the screen goes off.
i can still ping it after a few minutes... what you say about push mail and keeping wifi on makes sense... first thing i do when configuring my phone after fresh install is setting up my push mail... maybe that's why my wifi is always on.
You could set up a free gmail push account?
I'm not sure if my problem is related at all but my wifi only seems to connect to my router when it's diconnected from my PC. I'm sure before I upgraded to 1.48 ROM it stayed connected. Any idea guys?
oh, and I've only ever had it in the middle power saving mode and it looks like it does disconnect when it goes into standy.
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i can still ping it after a few minutes... what you say about push mail and keeping wifi on makes sense... first thing i do when configuring my phone after fresh install is setting up my push mail... maybe that's why my wifi is always on.
You could set up a free gmail push account?
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I've set up gmail account as well nut as far as I know it's just IMAP or correct meif I'm wrong. if It's not push mail, it'll still kinda polling isn't it? what's your view?
glenner05 said:
i can still ping it after a few minutes... what you say about push mail and keeping wifi on makes sense... first thing i do when configuring my phone after fresh install is setting up my push mail... maybe that's why my wifi is always on.
You could set up a free gmail push account?
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Good news guys, I've finally managed to get the WiFi to stay on even after the screen is off. Yes the trick is the "push mail". I deleted my original gmail imap account and set up a Microsoft Push Mail based Gmail account. Then did the ping test and it's staying on for sure now. But I did notice that it'll have 1 packet drop occasionally.
wifi disconnecting in standby
my hd2 stayed connected to wifi in standby, then i applied a few tweaks and .cabs, i had a few little issues like the screen freexing and not refreshing so i did a hard reset, since then wifi wont stay connacted when the phone is on standby, it is confusing
Hi I found a solution. Just install this cab. No soft reset needed
Nilee said:
Hi I found a solution. Just install this cab. No soft reset needed
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Sorry, this does not work.. Goes away after a soft reset
So I posted this in a different thread but figured I would post it here to see if anyone could duplicate my findings. I have a Note3 from T-Mobile and for whatever reason leaving the Wi-Fi on will not allow the phone to go into deep sleep mode. I noticed when I was down to 40% battery after 10 hours with only one hour of screen on time. After running some tests I had only 2 minutes of deep sleep those entire 10 hours (tested using BetterBatteryStats) I tried setting "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" to Never and unchecking "Always allow scanning" under advanced network settings but neither of them fix the issue. In fact, after several tests I concluded that setting never for "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" wasn't even functioning as my access points still showed the client connected while the phone was asleep.
Can anyone else confirm this issue is actually a bug and not just my phone being defective?
Here's my original post on the topic regarding how I found the problem and what I have tested so far:
OK so after only 2 days of owning this phone (got it late Monday night, the T-Mobile variant) I finally figured out why I'm getting such bad battery, and I suspect the same thing may be happening for the other people in this thread. Hopefully this information helps at least one person.
My battery stats was almost identical to all the other users in this thread that had bad battery, I would get barely around 10-12 hours on the phone with less than 2 hours of screen on time. After using multiple apps to track down the issue I finally got what it was.
Wireless. Yes, wireless was my cause. But the thing is Wi-Fi didn't show up at all in any of the battery apps so I assumed it was a non issue. I've had other phones and have always kept the wireless turned on the entire time without problems. The basic problem is not that Wi-Fi is using power itself but it's that by default the phone cannot enter deep sleep while connected to Wi-Fi. This is why trying to use apps like BetterBatteryStats will lead you nowhere initially (though they were useful in finding out what was causing the issue) You can discover this by turning on Wi-Fi and connecting the phone to a charger, then disconnecting it so your BBS information will reset. Then power off the screen and power it back on after 10 minutes. You'll notice in the other section that deep sleep will have less than a minute time while awake probably has close to 9 minutes, if not more. This is with everything else turned off, almost no apps, and no special Samsung stuff enabled.
Under Apps > Settings > Wi-Fi > Menu > Advanced there are two options that should help this: "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" and "Always allow scanning" I set the "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" to Never and unchecked Always allow scanning and rebooted the phone. And low and behold...nothing. Yes, these options don't work (at least not to fix this problem) The phone still won't enter deep sleep mode while the wireless is enabled. Based on my company's wireless devices I can see that even with the screen off for well over 10 minutes it still shows connected as a client meaning the wireless is not turning off properly while it's in sleep mode. Or perhaps it can't go into sleep mode because the wireless is on which stops it from going into sleep mode and turning off the wireless. My guess is that it's a Samsung bug.
The reason why there's so many people here to get good battery usage is because they're either used to turning Wi-Fi on only when needed and keeping it off. You'll also not notice it if you have more than 6 hours of screen on time because you could easily assume that it would make sense that you phone would only last 10 hours total with that much screen on time, even though it should have technically lasted 20+ hours with only 6 hours of screen on time if the phone could have entered deep sleep.
So what's the real fix for this? Unless it's by design my belief is that it's a bug and won't be fixed until Samsung/T-mobile notices. I can't test to see if the same thing happens on other carriers so if someone feels like testing this theory out it would help.
For now, I guess we're just left to manually turning Wi-Fi on only when needed and leaving it off in all other cases. For those that have the T-mobile variant, make sure you also go into Settings > General > Backup and reset > Collect diagnostics and uncheck the "Allow Diagnostics" as that will probably be the highest offender of Partial Wakelocks (it'll show up as com.carrieriq.tmobile.wakelock or System Manager Application)
If anyone wants more information on my testing let me know!
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That's because the 'Keep WiFi during sleep: Never" setting only disconnects, it doesn't shut down the WiFi radio.
You're going to have to use a manager (Like Deep Sleep Battery Saver).
Or just hit the toggle yourself... If you're going to keep it disconnected in sleep anyway, just swipe down the notification bar and hit the bloody toggle.
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That's because the 'Keep WiFi during sleep: Never" setting only disconnects, it doesn't shut down the WiFi radio.
You're going to have to use a manager (Like Deep Sleep Battery Saver).
Or just hit the toggle yourself... If you're going to keep it disconnected in sleep anyway, just swipe down the notification bar and hit the bloody toggle.
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The problem is that it doesn't disconnect, the access point 100% shows it is connected and transferring data every now and then. But the real issue isn't weather it disconnects or not but it's the fact that Wi-Fi will not allow the phone to go into deep sleep mode. For now I am fine with switching Wi-Fi off and on as needed, but with no other phone have I needed to do this before and definitely seems like a bug.
But regardless, what I'm trying to figure out if this is a legit bug that I should submit to Samsung/T-mobile or if it's just my phone and I should ask for a replacement. If anyone has BetterBatteryStats and could test this with their Note3 that would help.
My stupid phone has just started this same issue!!!! Freaking annoying, after only 8 hrs from 100% charged state, the battery is at 46% with only 26 mins screen ontime, I checked out that the phone never goes into deep sleep. What is going on and what can be causing this? Did you manage to resolve your issue?
PS I checked out wakelock detector but doesn't tell me a thing, as what program is keeping the phone awake all the time. Starting to hate this phone and miss my S3
What is your GPS accuracy setting set to? GPS, Wifi or Networks? Try setting it to GPS only.
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So I posted this in a different thread but figured I would post it here to see if anyone could duplicate my findings. I have a Note3 from T-Mobile and for whatever reason leaving the Wi-Fi on will not allow the phone to go into deep sleep mode. I noticed when I was down to 40% battery after 10 hours with only one hour of screen on time. After running some tests I had only 2 minutes of deep sleep those entire 10 hours (tested using BetterBatteryStats) I tried setting "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" to Never and unchecking "Always allow scanning" under advanced network settings but neither of them fix the issue. In fact, after several tests I concluded that setting never for "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" wasn't even functioning as my access points still showed the client connected while the phone was asleep.
Can anyone else confirm this issue is actually a bug and not just my phone being defective?
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Well, your issue looks pretty similar to mine, which I solved with this Xposed mod (you could give it a try if you're on KitKat): http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-wi-fi-deep-sleep-t2752947. I was experiencing that even when "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" is set to Never, Wi-Fi still was awake most of the time according to battery stats.