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Maps burning battery (not in use)

If this has already been addressed, please let me know. I couldn't find any relevant threads.
Recently, I've been noticing Maps is showing up in my battery usage screen, using 12-15% of my battery by the end of the day. This would be perfectly acceptable, if I had opened Maps at all on these days. This just started happening to me, not corresponding to any update of maps. Has anyone else noticed this? More importantly, does anyone have a solution? I've dug through the settings a bit but can't seem to find a cause. Strange that it just started happening also, seemed to start after the first time I used the turn by turn nav but could be just a coincidence.
TL;DR: Maps using more battery than it should when not in use. Why?

I've noticed that my maps will start up everytime I reboot. I just kill it before it gets to using any of my battery.
Are you checking this usage under spare parts? I've seen others report spare parts showing this. I don't use that app but I never see any listing of it using my battery at all.

My maps dis this .for a while. It was so annoying that I just wiped my phone and all is good now.
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Yeah, try clearing data for maps in settings/applications
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I was checking usage via the Android battery usage screen, not spare parts. It seems to have stopped ever since I force stopped it from the battery usage screen. Guess I'll just have to keep an eye on it.

It's been doing that with all phones since the new update.
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Does it have anything to do with "use wireless networks" being selected under settings-location? That option sends your location data to Google periodically ("even if no apps are running"); I wonder if they are doing it through the maps app.

I suppose it's possible but I'm not sure it's necessary for them to use an app to send your location data.

Battery usage has to equal 100% so I find if I don't use my phone much maps will have a large percentage. If I use my phone the display and whatever apps I happen to be using take up a larger percent of battery pushing maps off the list. Something has to be listed on there even if it isn't using all that much battery simply because it has to equal 100% and if you aren't using your phone it is going to grab whatever is using battery even if it isn't much. When I look into the maps app I find the usage time is always quite low.

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Battery usage has to equal 100% so I find if I don't use my phone much maps will have a large percentage. If I use my phone the display and whatever apps I happen to be using take up a larger percent of battery pushing maps off the list. Something has to be listed on there even if it isn't using all that much battery simply because it has to equal 100% and if you aren't using your phone it is going to grab whatever is using battery even if it isn't much. When I look into the maps app I find the usage time is always quite low.
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What? Lol
What you just said makes no sense whatsoever.
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adamr240 said:
What? Lol
What you just said makes no sense whatsoever.
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If its not maps taking up battery it'll be something else taking a large percentage
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What he was saying was that the percentages you see in the battery percentages are percentages of the percentage of baattery used. So if your battery is at 50%, and maps says it's used 15% it's used 15% of 50%, not 15% of your total battery. I knew this already, this is not the issue. Maps hasn't been doing it the past few days, but it was definitely beyond normal usage, i watch the usage screen quite closely (call me compulsive lol).

It seems to me that he is saying that the phone will report that maps is using the battery just bec1ause it has to say something is using it.
If that is what you are saying, do some more reading on percentage. If maps was not being used, the other processes would just have larger numbers.

Have you tried to make sure google latitude is disabled? It is a part of google maps that will show your location to your friends.
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NuAngel said:
Have you tried to make sure google latitude is disabled? It is a part of google maps that will show your location to your friends.
-Nu
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Yeah, it doesn't change anything.
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Google services using battery

Hey guys, I just noticed that Google services has been using up a good deal of battery for the past few days... My autosync is off, gps off but still has it using up a fifth of my battery.. Anyone else have similar problems?
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sameer1807 said:
Hey guys, I just noticed that Google services has been using up a good deal of battery for the past few days... My autosync is off, gps off but still has it using up a fifth of my battery.. Anyone else have similar problems?
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Same here. I wonder if it's the new Gmail.

Yep same here
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They better fix it.. I'm losing battery lol.. Dropped 15% in 2 hours standby
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They better fix it.. I'm losing battery lol.. Dropped 15% in 2 hours standby
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I have noticed that even in flight mode and screen off, there is a significant amount of battery drain (i saw 20% less in 6 hrs). With previews phone.. would be 2 to 5 %. I think that the key would be to underclock it in iddle mode

Do you have Google Now and maps location reporting enabled? Those two are major battery hogs.
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This worked for me and a friend. Go to Application manager then Google Play services and click uninstall updates. After uninstalling launch Hangouts. It will tell you that you need to update at which point do so. Hope that helps you out like it did me.

I am willing to bet these drains all occur after Google app updates? It seems that most Google apps want to eat battery the first cycle after they were updated. What I have noticed though, is that even though the "battery" stats report Google services as using a lot of percentage, the actually time the phone takes before it needs charged is about the same as when battery stats doesn't report Google services as eating battery.
So, see if "Google services" or Maps or any other Google app doesn't settle down after a cycle and also check to see if it really is shortening the time your phone needs between charges. I suspect it might just be temporary or maybe reported to the phone wrong.
Except for Google Music, freeze it, it will eat your data.

i uninstalled the play services update, and i disabled location services..seems to be fine now. ill turn it back on after a while to see if problem is caused by updates.

sameer1807 said:
They better fix it.. I'm losing battery lol.. Dropped 15% in 2 hours standby
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I've had this standby battery issue with three s4s now. Really annoying. My nexus four with a smaller battery lasts way longer
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{Q} Google Services chewing up my battery life

I've noticed the past few days google services is taking a chunk out of the battery life. I have BetterbatteryStats and Wakelock Defender and i cant identify the specific app causing it. If i do a battery pull the usage goes down but it eventually comes back up even on a voice call the percentage drops but then raises again to a really high percentage im at a loss here need some guidance. I have taken some screen shots
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I have found the solution to this issue:
1) System settings
2) More tab
3) Location Services
4) Uncheck Use wireless networks
This will eliminate the excessive use of Google Services battery life. And you will still have location based access app wise.
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lordandroid said:
I have found the solution to this issue:
1) System settings
2) More tab
3) Location Services
4) Uncheck Use wireless networks
This will eliminate the excessive use of Google Services battery life. And you will still have location based access app wise.
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Thank you for this. I am on Rogers and we just got the new update. Since then, google services is destroying my battery life. It's using about 90% and my battery is lasting half of its normal length.
Trying your solution tomorrow after a full charge.:good:

skydirt said:
Thank you for this. I am on Rogers and we just got the new update. Since then, google services is destroying my battery life. It's using about 90% and my battery is lasting half of its normal length.
Trying your solution tomorrow after a full charge.:good:
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I've been running this method since i discovered it and this is the battery performance i have gotten thus far as of today
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Found same/similar results after turning off location services. One of the worst culprits of power consumption!

lordandroid said:
I've been running this method since i discovered it and this is the battery performance i have gotten thus far as of today
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This didn't work for me.
Today, I woke up, unplugged my phone and drove to work (50 min drive). I listen to internet radio in the car via TuneInRadio, and didn't touch the phone all day while at work. Drove home and again streamed internet radio.
Here are the results. As you can see, I still have an issue :crying:

skydirt said:
This didn't work for me.
Today, I woke up, unplugged my phone and drove to work (50 min drive). I listen to internet radio in the car via TuneInRadio, and didn't touch the phone all day while at work. Drove home and again streamed internet radio.
Here are the results. As you can see, I still have an issue :crying:
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This screen shot incorporates the above method? If not what have you done?
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lordandroid said:
This screen shot incorporates the above method? If not what have you done?
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Yup. I did as you suggested.
I have looked more into this issues and Google services boards are flooded with users having this same issue in 4.2.2. It seems that it's actually the the new Google maps that came with it as indicated by a few users here. http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/mobile/U0MjxOQl3w0
Users have discovered that the v7 of Google maps is constantly trying to find location, even if a user has disabled it under the phones settings. It's not allowing the phone to go to sleep. As you can see is this screen capture, Google services ran 10hrs43mins out of the 14 hours my phone was off the charger.

skydirt said:
Yup. I did as you suggested.
I have looked more into this issues and Google services boards are flooded with users having this same issue in 4.2.2. It seems that it's actually the the new Google maps that came with it as indicated by a few users here. http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/mobile/U0MjxOQl3w0
Users have discovered that the v7 of Google maps is constantly trying to find location, even if a user has disabled it under the phones settings. It's not allowing the phone to go to sleep. As you can see is this screen capture, Google services ran 10hrs43mins out of the 14 hours my phone was off the charger.
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Try this uninstall the newest version of Gmaps afterwards your left with the previous version of Gmaps then open the Google Play app and you'll see an update to Gmaps and install it then restart your S4. Monitor it from there for a day or two.
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lordandroid said:
Try this uninstall the newest version of Gmaps afterwards your left with the previous version of Gmaps then open the Google Play app and you'll see an update to Gmaps and install it then restart your S4. Monitor it from there for a day or two.
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Okay, so here it is. This is a confirmed bug with Google Play services v 4.1.6. Google has a new version, 4.1.10 that fixes the location issue and batter drain.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/05/29/download-latest-google-play-store-4-1-10/

skydirt said:
Okay, so here it is. This is a confirmed bug with Google Play services v 4.1.6. Google has a new version, 4.1.10 that fixes the location issue and batter drain.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/05/29/download-latest-google-play-store-4-1-10/
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I've heard of this personally i have not tried it since my battery life has returned. But some users after trying it out reported no change.
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Just noticed this issue. I wonder if this has anything to do with the new Maps update? I never had this issue on my S3.. then again I was on a custom stock rom.. As now I'm on the MF3 update...

I'm not so sure why Google doesn't push those updated too all the devices. Therefore, I am asking myself if it's normal or if it can do any harm if we update it ourselves?

I have Google Play services 4.1.6 and do not experience that issue.So it is not consistent. But there are so many individual tweaks we do that it may be difficult to track down.

Go to the google browser, then settings, find "location" and uncheck the locations settings there and see if this works. Or do a factory reset and then just uncheck every features that comes with the fresh reset on my GT-I9505. Then go to Google play app store and turn off "automatic updates".
My battery record is ~ 3 days and 1h watching Youtube, twitch surfing internet in 100% screen contrast an hour or so on, playing games but this includes the GPS, Wi-Fi and Mobile data, sync when not used. Not joking. I'll be uploading screenshot soon enough.

Same problem for me on S III using JB 4.1.2.
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skydirt said:
Okay, so here it is. This is a confirmed bug with Google Play services v 4.1.6. Google has a new version, 4.1.10 that fixes the location issue and batter drain.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/05/29/download-latest-google-play-store-4-1-10/
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Actually Android Devices posted version 4.3.1 earlier today.
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lordandroid said:
I have found the solution to this issue:
1) System settings
2) More tab
3) Location Services
4) Uncheck Use wireless networks
This will eliminate the excessive use of Google Services battery life. And you will still have location based access app wise.
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Question for you. I'm running JB 4.1.2. As you can see by the screenshot, the selection you're suggesting is "and/or". Apples to apples?
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Figured out whats causing my google services to use crazy amounts of battery... the culprit was samsung push service.. removing the latest update and going back to the factory version fixed the problem for me... the update was released the aug 8th tho so if u had the problem before there might be something else going on as well idk removing the push service worked for me tho main battery consumer is screen and android now
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randun said:
Question for you. I'm running JB 4.1.2. As you can see by the screenshot, the selection you're suggesting is "and/or". Apples to apples?
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Ucheck "Use Wireless Networks"
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There may be unintended consequences for unchecking use wireless networks. If I understand correctly, this may interfere with the ability of device locating apps to locate a lost or stolen device. Can anyone confirm?

Google Services battery drain.

I realize it's not a lot of actual CPU time that Google Services uses but it does keep the Note 3 awake, not the screen but the device itself. It's using 20% of my battery and keeps it awake about 16% of the time. One app or another has to be causing this as other devices I've used Google Services only accounted for about 2%. How's everyone else doing?
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MichaelMcC said:
I realize it's not a lot of actual CPU time that Google Services uses but it does keep the Note 3 awake, not the screen but the device itself. It's using 20% of my battery and keeps it awake about 16% of the time. One app or another has to be causing this as other devices I've used Google Services only accounted for about 2%. How's everyone else doing?
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should put this in Q&A
i have no problem with it my self

Go to location services in settings and then location sources and turn off use wireless network option.
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Remove g+ sync.

I turned off both wifi location and g+ sync but I have a feeling it's g+ sync because I hadn't noticed it was on and I usually leave wifi location on. I'll try to narrow it down. Thanks for the tips.
Edit: wifi location was the culprit. Not sure why it uses so much CPU time and wakelock on the Note3 and not on other devices. Actually I think it's all Samsung devices. My galaxy tab is the same way but not our Motorola phones. Same version of Android.
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Battery tips

Alright. I'm getting horrible battery life. Do you guys have any tips? Even after a data wipe its still bad. And tips specifics to this phone or general ones? Thanks
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Are you in an area with poor reception?
You can try turning GPS and WiFi off when not in use.
You can also root your phone and feeeze/remove bloatware.
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Get wake lock detector and you can find what is draining your battery
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Well I had good service but had to wipe it and now it seems like my service is terrible and it drops all the time
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XzxBATTxzX said:
Well I had good service but had to wipe it and now it seems like my service is terrible and it drops all the time
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I had the same issues after my update. I then went and froze mobeam, all Knox services, enterprise.knox, knoxs.eventmanager, and a Security wipe apk. Let my note drain all the way until it powered down. Let it charge full cycle while turned off. So far work 1hr and 45 mins of on screen on time I'm down 15%. I feel like that's decent. Been on xda app pretty heavy and 2 different games straight with no screen timeouts

XzxBATTxzX said:
Alright. I'm getting horrible battery life. Do you guys have any tips? Even after a data wipe its still bad. And tips specifics to this phone or general ones? Thanks
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Best tip I can give in general, whether you're experiencing bad battery life or not, is to learn how to bring down the Google based wakelocks across play store, youtube, account sync, maps, hangouts/talk etc
So how does one do this? First, do the obvious by going into each Google app - Menu key - settings - and untick things such as annoymous usage data, google mob ads etc. Delete apps you don't use if you're rooted too.
Disable Account Sync altogether if you can, location services in gps settings, bluetooth, nfc
More advanced things you can do is learn about "wakelocks" here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827676

MicheleJ said:
I had the same issues after my update. I then went and froze mobeam, all Knox services, enterprise.knox, knoxs.eventmanager, and a Security wipe apk. Let my note drain all the way until it powered down. Let it charge full cycle while turned off. So far work 1hr and 45 mins of on screen on time I'm down 15%. I feel like that's decent. Been on xda app pretty heavy and 2 different games straight with no screen timeouts
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thanks, i have 30min of screen time and down 15%