Google services using battery - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

Hey guys, I just noticed that Google services has been using up a good deal of battery for the past few days... My autosync is off, gps off but still has it using up a fifth of my battery.. Anyone else have similar problems?
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sameer1807 said:
Hey guys, I just noticed that Google services has been using up a good deal of battery for the past few days... My autosync is off, gps off but still has it using up a fifth of my battery.. Anyone else have similar problems?
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Same here. I wonder if it's the new Gmail.

Yep same here
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They better fix it.. I'm losing battery lol.. Dropped 15% in 2 hours standby
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They better fix it.. I'm losing battery lol.. Dropped 15% in 2 hours standby
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I have noticed that even in flight mode and screen off, there is a significant amount of battery drain (i saw 20% less in 6 hrs). With previews phone.. would be 2 to 5 %. I think that the key would be to underclock it in iddle mode

Do you have Google Now and maps location reporting enabled? Those two are major battery hogs.
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This worked for me and a friend. Go to Application manager then Google Play services and click uninstall updates. After uninstalling launch Hangouts. It will tell you that you need to update at which point do so. Hope that helps you out like it did me.

I am willing to bet these drains all occur after Google app updates? It seems that most Google apps want to eat battery the first cycle after they were updated. What I have noticed though, is that even though the "battery" stats report Google services as using a lot of percentage, the actually time the phone takes before it needs charged is about the same as when battery stats doesn't report Google services as eating battery.
So, see if "Google services" or Maps or any other Google app doesn't settle down after a cycle and also check to see if it really is shortening the time your phone needs between charges. I suspect it might just be temporary or maybe reported to the phone wrong.
Except for Google Music, freeze it, it will eat your data.

i uninstalled the play services update, and i disabled location services..seems to be fine now. ill turn it back on after a while to see if problem is caused by updates.

sameer1807 said:
They better fix it.. I'm losing battery lol.. Dropped 15% in 2 hours standby
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I've had this standby battery issue with three s4s now. Really annoying. My nexus four with a smaller battery lasts way longer
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Google Services Battery Drain

Today I noticed that Google Services is draining battery by using some services but unlike before it is using it a lot.
Did any one experience this strange issue?
Turn off GPS and auto sync.
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Turn off GPS and auto sync.
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I'm pretty sure that's one of the ways we can take in order to save a bit more battery, but then again, why are we buying high-end devices with GPS tracking for whatever apps or security as I have (cerberus app) or real-time mails of work, social feed, etc.
Someone will say that they don't need instant mails on the device or don't want the GPS; point is, having GPS/push notifications should not be an issue for any user since those are the features we can, want, could use..
Only thing I really miss on blackberry devices...
This did not happen before which makes it strange, well at least not having that much percentage.
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andyabc said:
This did not happen before which makes it strange, well at least not having that much percentage.
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X2. I agree, google services wasn't that bad for me before. But the last week or 2 its been quite bad. Im running rootmax v4 and am struggling to make my phone last 24 hours on one charge now, whereas before I could do it. GTALK_ASYNC_CONN.... is the bugger thats causing wakelocks for me!
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X2. I agree, google services wasn't that bad for me before. But the last week or 2 its been quite bad. Im running rootmax v4 and am struggling to make my phone last 24 hours on one charge now, whereas before I could do it. GTALK_ASYNC_CONN.... is the bugger thats causing wakelocks for me!
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Just to update on this. I done some reading online and found a few people mentioned that it was the latest play store update causing the battery drain. I went ino the app manager and deleted the update an went back to the original playstore apk that came with the rom.THis seems to have reduced my google services drain and my phone is lasting longer now
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Just to update on this. I done some reading online and found a few people mentioned that it was the latest play store update causing the battery drain. I went ino the app manager and deleted the update an went back to the original playstore apk that came with the rom.THis seems to have reduced my google services drain and my phone is lasting longer now
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Awesome, thanks for the update.
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My battery life has been terrible today...

As the title states, my battery life has struggled mightily today. Check out my pics, what do you think could be causing this?
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dude 3 hours awake time out of 5...thats an issue. you've got a wake lock somewhere. download wake lock detector
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the 1positive with mine so far is the battery. i go all day (12-14hrs) with moderate use and still have 30% charge when i plug it in.
That's terrible. You got an app freaking out. I noticed a huge drop in battery life when I put on a different sms app.
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Thanks guys, I installed the wakelock app. I will see what's going on.
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What was the issue?
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Install better battery stats.....maps and partial wakelocks seems to be killing you battery. BBS would give u a better indication of whats eating your battery
WizeGuyDezignz said:
As the title states, my battery life has struggled mightily today. Check out my pics, what do you think could be causing this?
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akong702 said:
What was the issue?
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Not sure what the issue is yet, I was charging my phone. Now I took it off the charger and have better battery stats installed. I will monitor it and let you know.
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Held awake for 3 hours because your screen was on for almost that long. Right?
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one thing that really kills this battery is the setting under location access "wifi and mobile network location" if you have that enabled google services keep the phone awake and drain the battery. I disabled that and my battery last so much longer now.
Well guys, something is still eating my battery alive. I went to bed with over 40% battery and I woke up with 7% left.
Here are my screenshots from better battery stats. Can anyone figure out what's eating me alive?
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
As the title states, my battery life has struggled mightily today. Check out my pics, what do you think could be causing this?
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Use greenify....you will see improvements right away.
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Well guys, something is still eating my battery alive. I went to bed with over 40% battery and I woke up with 7% left.
Here are my screenshots from better battery stats. Can anyone figure out what's eating me alive?
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NLP-Network Location Process-seems to be your biggest issue. My best bet would be settings>accounts>Google>google+>location
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one thing that really kills this battery is the setting under location access "wifi and mobile network location" if you have that enabled google services keep the phone awake and drain the battery. I disabled that and my battery last so much longer now.
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Thanks, I turned it off and will let you know if that was it.
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NLP-Network Location Process-seems to be your biggest issue. My best bet would be settings>accounts>Google>google+>location
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I wasn't signed into Google+, so hopefully turning off the setting above will help. Thanks!
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lastdeadmouse said:
NLP-Network Location Process-seems to be your biggest issue. My best bet would be settings>accounts>Google>google+>location
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Yeah, good tip. If that doesnt work, go to Maps and disable history and location reporting as well. Might want to disable Wifi and mobile network location under the global location settings as well. This prevents other programs from eating up battery trying to access location when GPS is off. Restart your phone after diasbling any of these, then check battery life
Ok guys, here is how my battery has been doing since I made the changes that everyone suggested. Am I in good shape?
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seems good. here was mine earlier though lol
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seems good. here was mine earlier though lol
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Lol nice. The only complaint that I have about this is that I had to turn off every single location based setting in the phone. I've never had to do that on my previous phones. It never drained like this on my S4 with those settings on.
The root of my complaint is that I can't even get weather updates on my widget because it is all turned off. And I always like to have the weather widget on my main screen. Which single setting can I turn on to get weather updates? I will leave the other ones off.
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Getting eaten alive again. What are these top two things?
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Power management wakelocks in the kernel is a placeholder for partial wakelocks. Look at the partial wakelock list for details. I had a terrible *backup* partial wakelock that had a start count of 3000 within 8 hrs!!! It was killing my bat. Check yours, it might be that same if its not the location wakelocks acting up again

Less than 5 hours on a full charge?!

I know I'm a heavy phone user, but how are people saying they get 9+ hours of constant use, like watching videos, and I'm getting half that from texting, using Hangouts, and a couple social networking apps? My screen uses between 45-50% of that and the rest is apps, primarily the ones I use most.
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cowboyaryk said:
I know I'm a heavy phone user, but how are people saying they get 9+ hours of constant use, like watching videos, and I'm getting half that from texting, using Hangouts, and a couple social networking apps? My screen uses between 45-50% of that and the rest is apps, primarily the ones I use most.
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Mind posting battery stats?
cowboyaryk said:
I know I'm a heavy phone user, but how are people saying they get 9+ hours of constant use, like watching videos, and I'm getting half that from texting, using Hangouts, and a couple social networking apps? My screen uses between 45-50% of that and the rest is apps, primarily the ones I use most.
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And how much screen time are you showing?
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I unplugged from a charger about 330pm, it's now almost 8 with the following stats. This is driving me crazy, I feel like I can't unplug it. So today I get almost 6 hours to almost 10%
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What launcher were you using? I unplugged at 7-8 am this morning and attached are my stats. Sometimes it drains more than others but overall the battery life is pretty amazing.
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I unplugged from a charger about 330pm, it's now almost 8 with the following stats. This is driving me crazy, I feel like I can't unplug it. So today I get almost 6 hours to almost 10%
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Well, for starters wifi is at 0% which means ur constantly using 4G which can suck ur battery dry especially if you're in an area with bad reception.
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Well, for starters wifi is at 0% which means ur constantly using 4G which can suck ur battery dry especially if you're in an area with bad reception.
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My wifi always shows it's connected as a solid blue line, but I've been on LTE all day.
Might be a rogue app running in the background or something? I use the Active Apps widget and randomly end programs from time to time while clearing up the RAM as well. Hopefully it's just a rogue app or bad battery?
cowboyaryk said:
I unplugged from a charger about 330pm, it's now almost 8 with the following stats. This is driving me crazy, I feel like I can't unplug it. So today I get almost 6 hours to almost 10%
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You're definitely not getting what you should. Look at my stats, a lot of wifi but also not as much held awake time on my phone considering what I have as Battery time. Take a look around there's things you can disable like bloatware that may be holding your phone from sleeping. Also see if you can reconfigure that one app, maybe it updates to often. I don't usually have any app drain more then kernel and the android system.
Or its your battery if you've done all that.
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Are you rooted?
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Are you rooted?
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If you are asking me, no.
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I was having that same problem when first got my phone. I'm pretty sure it was the new themer application it, worked fine until I uninstalled it, then my battery constantly needed to be charged. To originally fix it I backed up and factory reset it then it seemed to be working fine but now that I'm rooted I have been using greenify and it works like a dream. It tells you in better detail what's draining your battery and what wakes it up in your background as it tries to sleep. Now I get about 22 hours with pretty regular usage
With 56 minutes on screen time, I should get close to ten hours... you must have an app that is killing your battery or that uses data alot
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Here is how mine is looking today so far, I would say my Note 3 outlasts my other phones no problem.. biggest offenders I noticed that wrecked mine was Google Settings>Location Reporting turned that off, and when I dont need it turn everything off in Settings>Location Reporting.. when I go out or want to use Google Now I turn it on .. I greenified a lot of the stupid apps like My Magazine or disabled them outright
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Here is how mine is looking today so far, I would say my Note 3 outlasts my other phones no problem.. biggest offenders I noticed that wrecked mine was Google Settings>Location Reporting turned that off, and when I dont need it turn everything off in Settings>Location Reporting.. when I go out or want to use Google Now I turn it on .. I greenified a lot of the stupid apps like My Magazine or disabled them outright
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Three things, one are you rooted. Two if not, is the beginning of it while you are sleeping or using it? If using it, what other things have you tweaked If not rooted.
And third but completely unrelated, I see you have a sense clock, if you want a great one that is pretty much a perfect copy of sense, take a look at "sense v2 flip click and weather". I use that and love it
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Three things, one are you rooted. Two if not, is the beginning of it while you are sleeping or using it? If using it, what other things have you tweaked If not rooted.
And third but completely unrelated, I see you have a sense clock, if you want a great one that is pretty much a perfect copy of sense, take a look at "sense v2 flip click and weather". I use that and love it
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I can't speak for Neo but I'm rooted, but before then I still had amazing battery life because I disabled most if not all the bloatware.
I've disabled most of the bloat ware, I think. I'm it rooted. I'm just always plugging this thing in
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I do want to root though
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Battery tips

Alright. I'm getting horrible battery life. Do you guys have any tips? Even after a data wipe its still bad. And tips specifics to this phone or general ones? Thanks
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Are you in an area with poor reception?
You can try turning GPS and WiFi off when not in use.
You can also root your phone and feeeze/remove bloatware.
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Get wake lock detector and you can find what is draining your battery
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Well I had good service but had to wipe it and now it seems like my service is terrible and it drops all the time
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XzxBATTxzX said:
Well I had good service but had to wipe it and now it seems like my service is terrible and it drops all the time
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I had the same issues after my update. I then went and froze mobeam, all Knox services, enterprise.knox, knoxs.eventmanager, and a Security wipe apk. Let my note drain all the way until it powered down. Let it charge full cycle while turned off. So far work 1hr and 45 mins of on screen on time I'm down 15%. I feel like that's decent. Been on xda app pretty heavy and 2 different games straight with no screen timeouts
XzxBATTxzX said:
Alright. I'm getting horrible battery life. Do you guys have any tips? Even after a data wipe its still bad. And tips specifics to this phone or general ones? Thanks
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Best tip I can give in general, whether you're experiencing bad battery life or not, is to learn how to bring down the Google based wakelocks across play store, youtube, account sync, maps, hangouts/talk etc
So how does one do this? First, do the obvious by going into each Google app - Menu key - settings - and untick things such as annoymous usage data, google mob ads etc. Delete apps you don't use if you're rooted too.
Disable Account Sync altogether if you can, location services in gps settings, bluetooth, nfc
More advanced things you can do is learn about "wakelocks" here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827676
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I had the same issues after my update. I then went and froze mobeam, all Knox services, enterprise.knox, knoxs.eventmanager, and a Security wipe apk. Let my note drain all the way until it powered down. Let it charge full cycle while turned off. So far work 1hr and 45 mins of on screen on time I'm down 15%. I feel like that's decent. Been on xda app pretty heavy and 2 different games straight with no screen timeouts
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thanks, i have 30min of screen time and down 15%

What's up with my Battery life?

Is this bad, Seems like its way worse than it used to be. Wondering if I need to get a new battery.
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kickenwing13 said:
Is this bad, Seems like its way worse than it used to be. Wondering if I need to get a new battery.
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Same thing here.
As of like 4 days ago the battery life went from "pretty good" to "absolute garbage".
I'm thinking SOMETHING updated and is causing this massive drain.
After the second day on the room of my choice my battery life tanked. I found the issue to be a few apps which begin to sync in the background for location. Go to location services and check it out. Some you will have to disable in location services and some in the apps themselves. Happy hunting.
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sdglenn said:
After the second day on the room of my choice my battery life tanked. I found the issue to be a few apps which begin to sync in the background for location. Go to location services and check it out. Some you will have to disable in location services and some in the apps themselves. Happy hunting.
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Whats odd is i've been running 4.4.2 day it hit OTA, and it was okay, was not till the last 4-5 days that "Android System" is eating up more then screen-on time.
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Glad I'm not the only one. I'll turn location services off
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