So s4 is in stores now and we saw its features hardware and software. I saw the airview feature by hand for example. My question is that cna we get that working to our notes or is it a hardware issue?
Hardware. We won't get a whole lot of gesture stuff that uses IR sensor either. We'll get eye scroll and smart pause (hopefully) though.
The one that you hover your hand to answer the phone? Isnt that controlled with the front sensors?
No, there is dedicated hardware for that. If you want an S4, you need to buy an S4, not hold out hope that the N2 will get a bunch of magical upgrades.
from what i saw s4 sensor is very sensitive, you need to be very close and you will sometimes missclick(seen in the samsung event shown in youtube videos)
the note 2 gives you at least 1.5-2cm with the spen so it works better
xwonic said:
from what i saw s4 sensor is very sensitive, you need to be very close and you will sometimes missclick(seen in the samsung event shown in youtube videos)
the note 2 gives you at least 1.5-2cm with the spen so it works better
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s4 has feature called something like "improve touch sensitivity" with that ticked you can work on it even with gloves on. yes with that theres some misslicking when airviewing but turn it off and touch/airview works perfect.
also, s4 has noticeably sharper screen
tried s4 last week
S4 screen is clearly better than N2. No blue/green tint and less staturate. I love to use Pro Photo or Movies mode.
S4 screen suffer smearing while Note 2 not! I use some black background apps and it annoy me in late evening
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People who wear glasses love the smart features as half the time they dont work as the camera doesnt detect the white in our eyes :crying:
Damn, I really wanted that answer with gesture.
Misleading title!
Zanr Zij said:
S4 screen is clearly better than N2. No blue/green tint and less staturate. I love to use Pro Photo or Movies mode.
S4 screen suffer smearing while Note 2 not! I use some black background apps and it annoy me in late evening
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I find the screen amazing on N2, but for saturation issues try going to Settings > Display > Screen Mode and select Natural or Standard,, that should sort it.
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I find the screen amazing on N2, but for saturation issues try going to Settings > Display > Screen Mode and select Natural or Standard,, that should sort it.
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Natural and Standard are not enough. Note 2 got blue/green tint.
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Natural and Standard are not enough. Note 2 got blue/green tint.
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That's not blue, that's the green tint, yes. You could get rid of that easily by flashing perseus.
http://youtu.be/x6-a_sQbRSo?t=1m53s - at least to my eyes, whites appear "whiiter" on Note II, even on stock.
Either way, moot point.
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Hi guys!
First off I wanna say I love my Note!! I have the Korea version as well.
Anyway, I still have my Galaxy S I which I ended the contract to get a Note.
I have to say as far as the "blacks" are concerned, the Galaxy S I wins hands down and also the text/color is sharper and even brighter than the Note.
I tried to take side by side photos but this was the best I could do to show the difference. Both phones are at max. brightness
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/img0005ib.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/img0006pq.jpg/
The pics do not do justice. In person there is a real difference. Even the capacitive lights on the bottom are brighter and whiter.
Not a big deal though when my Gaalaxy S isnt being compared to the Note. Just bothers me a bit personally
Thanks!!
Its becoz of the resolution . Galaxy Has 480 x 800 and in Note 1280 x 800, their is a lot of difference in these too models. anyway Supercurio is working on color issues on Note. lets Hope for better result.
Display issue Thread by Supercurio.. here is the link .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430847
After installing Screen Adjuster free from the market ..I just upped the red a fraction [+3] to get rid of the slightest green tinge to my screen.
Then installed Voodoo Screen from the Market and set it to Native Mode... this has fixed 90% of the banding issue on my Note.
Now the screen is beautiful and can hardly fault it.
cybermessiah said:
After installing Screen Adjuster free from the market ..I just upped the red a fraction [+3] to get rid of the slightest green tinge to my screen.
Then installed Voodoo Screen from the Market and set it to Native Mode... this has fixed 90% of the banding issue on my Note.
Now the screen is beautiful and can hardly fault it.
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Was the app called "Voodoo Screen Tuning R/D" ?
I downloaded it from market but get a message saying it doesnt support my model.
I have a Korean Note
What did u turn red upto perhaps a screen shot of your settings if u could pls
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Aaaargh it requires root. Im n00b and dont want to do that i n the first month :/
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You can turn it on and off
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Hi guys!
First off I wanna say I love my Note!! I have the Korea version as well.
Anyway, I still have my Galaxy S I which I ended the contract to get a Note.
I have to say as far as the "blacks" are concerned, the Galaxy S I wins hands down and also the text/color is sharper and even brighter than the Note.
I tried to take side by side photos but this was the best I could do to show the difference. Both phones are at max. brightness
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/img0005ib.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/img0006pq.jpg/
The pics do not do justice. In person there is a real difference. Even the capacitive lights on the bottom are brighter and whiter.
Not a big deal though when my Gaalaxy S isnt being compared to the Note. Just bothers me a bit personally
Thanks!!
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Coming from a galaxy s with a perfect screen i have to agree that the black levels on the note is not as good and yes picture quality on the first generation screen is better even if its just plain pentile and non hd resolution.
People who started with the galaxy note are easily blown away but those who started with the first gen need more to be pleased. I also started a thread about this before and got the same results on the black levels.. im hoping that hd samoled plus can redeem the samoled family.
I think it is an amazing screen!!! I love it, about it being less bright, god I think the note is too bright. I never have it on full brightness unless its really bright sunshine, and in the dark I wish it would go darker, but it won't.
And the black levels!!!(I'm sick of hearing about this in the this forum) some people are so anal about this, I mean I can only just about tell that the screen is on, on a full black screen when I'm in a pitch black room, which I did to test the blacks. So 99% of the time you can't tell, and even in a pitch black room as soon as theres a pixel of light on the screen your eyes adjust and the blacks look black again. Secondly how many of you that are bothered about this, actually sit in the cinema or watch tv or when on the computer, say oh my good the blacks aren't quiet black. I can pretty much guarantee that all the screens in your life aren't LED so why bother so much about it on your phone?
I also love the screen. No disappointment at all!
Would you rather have 480x800!?
This is brand new technology! It pushes the limits of what can be done at consumer price.
And people are complaining!? WTF!
edit: I owned a SGS1, but I like the Note's screen way more. Much sharper.
Although I must say I'm not experiencing the issues I read about on the forum.
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Would you rather have 480x800!?
This is brand new technology! It pushes the limits of what can be done at consumer price.
And people are complaining!? WTF!
Although I must say I'm not experiencing the issues I read about on the forum.
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Are you joking???
I worked a few years in an industrial R&D department and designed new products, but we NEVER would have dared to release a product with such massive quality fluctuations (problems) onto a mass market! Especially when the screen is THE major unique selling argument!
Fine that YOUR screen is fine for YOU, but sorry, your arguments are pure ignorance! You do NOT have this issues, fine, then why judge about their seriousness??
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Are you joking???
I worked a few years in an industrial R&D department and designed new products, but we NEVER would have dared to release a product with such massive quality fluctuations (problems) onto a mass market! Especially when the screen is THE major unique selling argument!
Fine that YOUR screen is fine for YOU, but sorry, your arguments are pure ignorance! You do NOT have this issues, fine, then why judge about their seriousness??
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Jeez, dont buy a samsung nexus then because that thing is a mess. Signal fluctuates so badly that its kinda funny. Fake screen size (the android buttons are actually on the bottom of the screen, reducing the screen size to the razr. The sound is a joke, the battery useless. Match that with no sd card slot no hdmi and the headphone jack at the bottom of the phone and youve got a 600$ flop.
I bought it for my 12 year old and even he doesnt want it. He wants me to bring it back and get a razr....
BTW, i have a bad s pen and the trademark samsung pink hue in the middle of my camera but asude from that, i love my note. When i saw it in youtube early 2011 i knew it would become my daily phone web surfer.
I wish for the same phone with S amoled PLUS, volume and sleep buttons not across from each ither, no pink in camera, mute button (like iphone) and the sane type of notification light as on the samsung nexus, micro hdmi out and quad core
try the free wallpaper called "no wallpaper" by simplicity apps. The blacks that you see with that wallpaper are amazing and it is free. i often use my phone at night when my child is sleeping, so lights are off and dark and see pitch black screen.
have 2 htc desires at home with amoled screens and the note screen is way better than that. have seen SGS and SGS2 screens and the note is definetely much better than that.
also try the wallpaper (free and paid versions) of KF Flames or KF Flames Donation by kittehface software. the blacks on that are also awesome with equally awesome flame effects. prefer the stock setting than variations possible with paid version but bought paid version just to support developer as liked free version.
the screen on even the sgs2 is no comparison to the one on the note. is your phone stock version or is having different roms affecting the display?
ICS should sort out most issues as its 32bit colour .... (or it could be 24 bit not 100 percent) ,,,
no wallpaper works a treat ... also lowering red to 3
still some apps which are lower density look like they have lines on .. but if you take screen shot they are still there when looking on pc so its the app not the phone
this phone rocks ... never ever going back to the half eaten apple ....
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Are you joking???
I worked a few years in an industrial R&D department and designed new products, but we NEVER would have dared to release a product with such massive quality fluctuations (problems) onto a mass market! Especially when the screen is THE major unique selling argument!
Fine that YOUR screen is fine for YOU, but sorry, your arguments are pure ignorance! You do NOT have this issues, fine, then why judge about their seriousness??
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Where in my post am I "judging" about "their" seriousness?
If you find the screen their "major unique selling argument", why did you buy it before doing research on the screen?
If you are so worked up about the screen, why don't you get a replacement or trade it for a different phone?
Why do you point your frustration at someone who bought a phone he likes?
Because you bought a phone that you do not like?
Really, if you are so pissed off that you have to enter a forum discussion this angry. You should return the phone.
If you worked in a research and design department you must be a smart guy. You know getting angry won't get us anywhere.
markmessier8888 said:
Hi guys!
First off I wanna say I love my Note!! I have the Korea version as well.
Anyway, I still have my Galaxy S I which I ended the contract to get a Note.
I have to say as far as the "blacks" are concerned, the Galaxy S I wins hands down and also the text/color is sharper and even brighter than the Note.
I tried to take side by side photos but this was the best I could do to show the difference. Both phones are at max. brightness
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/img0005ib.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/img0006pq.jpg/
The pics do not do justice. In person there is a real difference. Even the capacitive lights on the bottom are brighter and whiter.
Not a big deal though when my Gaalaxy S isnt being compared to the Note. Just bothers me a bit personally
Thanks!!
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The blacks on my old S2 is way deeper than the one in the Note.
Disappointing for sure.
But i'll take sharper screen over deeper blacks any day.
Well I was the proud owner of two notes this week, first one had a screen which used to tint between pink and green, so I got Amazon to send a replacement, which came today.
Alas this one isn't rendering the blacks properly and makes Black & White photos and videos look awful, pity as I'm a photographer and wanted to show client photos on the note (First note rendered Blacks great, just the white balance kept going off every odd second or so).
So two notes being returned, not taking the risk again.
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Well I was the proud owner of two notes this week, first one had a screen which used to tint between pink and green, so I got Amazon to send a replacement, which came today.
Alas this one isn't rendering the blacks properly and makes Black & White photos and videos look awful, pity as I'm a photographer and wanted to show client photos on the note (First note rendered Blacks great, just the white balance kept going off every odd second or so).
So two notes being returned, not taking the risk again.
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3rd times tge charm! Grab it while its the international version! The home button is brilliant.i dont at&ts stink on it.
cybermessiah said:
After installing Screen Adjuster free from the market ..I just upped the red a fraction [+3] to get rid of the slightest green tinge to my screen.
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I adjusted the red to +1 on my Note, and it's worked perfect
Much clearer now, thanks for that tip - I'd never heard of that app before.
Livewings said:
The blacks on my old S2 is way deeper than the one in the Note.
Disappointing for sure.
But i'll take sharper screen over deeper blacks any day.
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I'm not sure how the black levels are perceivably different from one OLED screen to another, whether it's AMOLED, SAMOLED, SAMOLED Plus, or HD SAMOLED.
I mean, think about it...
All OLED displays are actively lit, which means that each pixel is its own source of light as opposed to being, essentially, active colour filters for a backlight, like on an LCD.
Let's go ahead an use 24-bit colour for the following example:
Basically, each pixel is able to register 256 levels of intensity per colour, which is represented by 8 bits per colour. And since you have three colours (Red, Green, and Blue), that's 8 bits times 3, hence 24-bit.
In the case of an LCD, where each pixel is essentially a filter, blocking or allowing backlight through, a bit value of 0 for any particular colour would mean fully blocking light, and a bit value of 255 would mean fully allowing as much light through as possible.
However, since the backlight in an LCD is always on, regardless of the image, the front panel isn't always able to completely block all the light, even on a completely black image. That's why you're still able to see a little bit of bleed-through, even on the best LCD's.
With any kind of OLED display technology, this is not the case however. On an OLED display, each pixel is essentially a microscopic cluster of light emitting diodes, and since each pixel produces its own light, there is no backlight whatsoever. Thus, on an OLED display, a 255 bit value for a given colour means full intensity, and a bit value of 0 simply means "off."
Q.E.D. on any kind of OLED display, true black is truly black in the same sense that when a light bulb is turned off, it's completely off.
So, if you're perceiving a difference in the black levels between respective OLED devices, it could be simply that you're not viewing a truly black image. The image might contain pixel bit values close to 0, but not actually 0.
Hello all! I'm still using my Galaxy Nexus (Toro) and I'm due to upgrade next month, I'm now seriously considering the Galaxy S4, but the one thing that has me concerned is the screen quality.
As some of you may already know, the Galaxy Nexus has some odd color reproduction (especially in the greys) when the screen is anything below maximum brightness. It looks like there is almost a texture to the greys, and whites when scrolling. (See photos here)
I understand that this is the nature of the display on the GNex and I've learned to just tolerate it.
I really just want to know if the S4 suffers from the same issue at all?
Thanks in advance!
Liskrig said:
Hello all! I'm still using my Galaxy Nexus (Toro) and I'm due to upgrade next month, I'm now seriously considering the Galaxy S4, but the one thing that has me concerned is the screen quality.
As some of you may already know, the Galaxy Nexus has some odd color reproduction (especially in the greys) when the screen is anything below maximum brightness. It looks like there is almost a texture to the greys, and whites when scrolling. (See photos here)
I understand that this is the nature of the display on the GNex and I've learned to just tolerate it.
I really just want to know if the S4 suffers from the same issue at all?
Thanks in advance!
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I personally notice the same thing for the greys in my S4, but I think is less evident than on the Nexus (my sister has one and I compared the 2 displays). In any case I think that it is a "feature" of AMOLED displays! The white instead is perfect and believe me is the best white I've ever seen on an AMOLED display!
Screen issues on the Galaxy S4? Where do I start!
*Pink tint
*Light Banding across the screen on low brightness
*Purple smearing
*Hue changing when keyboard is toggled
*Screen flickering when using data on white Web pages
*Purple greys on low brightness
I'm sure there's more!
The S4 is the worst of the Galaxy devices for quality control.
It was rushed to market to compete with HTC and Sony and so suffers a lot of issues.
Don't get me wrong, I love my S4 but definitely check the screen as soon as you get it.
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Obagleyfreer said:
Screen issues on the Galaxy S4? Where do I start!
*Pink tint
*Light Banding across the screen on low brightness
*Purple smearing
*Hue changing when keyboard is toggled
*Screen flickering when using data on white Web pages
*Purple greys on low brightness
I'm sure there's more!
The S4 is the worst of the Galaxy devices for quality control.
It was rushed to market to compete with HTC and Sony and so suffers a lot of issues.
Don't get me wrong, I love my S4 but definitely check the screen as soon as you get it.
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Dont know about i9505 but the only "issue" i have on my i9500 is purple smearing that too on some 3rd party apps and barely noticable(after the update)...
And s4 has currently the best screen that u cn get in the market apart from iphone5 or note 2..but the latter phones are not full hd so s4 somewhat wins the round.
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Obagleyfreer said:
Screen issues on the Galaxy S4? Where do I start!
*Pink tint
*Light Banding across the screen on low brightness
*Purple smearing
*Hue changing when keyboard is toggled
*Screen flickering when using data on white Web pages
*Purple greys on low brightness
I'm sure there's more!
The S4 is the worst of the Galaxy devices for quality control.
It was rushed to market to compete with HTC and Sony and so suffers a lot of issues.
Don't get me wrong, I love my S4 but definitely check the screen as soon as you get it.
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Those were all the issues I was afraid of...
I may risk it though, I believe Verizon has a pretty painless return/exchange policy.
Thanks for all the continued replies, I really appreciate it!
Obagleyfreer said:
Screen issues on the Galaxy S4? Where do I start!
*Pink tint
*Light Banding across the screen on low brightness
*Purple smearing
*Hue changing when keyboard is toggled
*Screen flickering when using data on white Web pages
*Purple greys on low brightness
I'm sure there's more!
The S4 is the worst of the Galaxy devices for quality control.
It was rushed to market to compete with HTC and Sony and so suffers a lot of issues.
Don't get me wrong, I love my S4 but definitely check the screen as soon as you get it.
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I have none of these issues, except the smearing, which with the update is fixed. Anything else is just perfect. I would say that this is the best mobile display put on a phone so far, and by faaaar the best SAMOLED out there.
Obagleyfreer said:
Screen issues on the Galaxy S4? Where do I start!
*Pink tint
*Light Banding across the screen on low brightness
*Purple smearing
*Hue changing when keyboard is toggled
*Screen flickering when using data on white Web pages
*Purple greys on low brightness
I'm sure there's more!
The S4 is the worst of the Galaxy devices for quality control.
It was rushed to market to compete with HTC and Sony and so suffers a lot of issues.
Don't get me wrong, I love my S4 but definitely check the screen as soon as you get it.
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I can confirm that I have all these issues aswell...
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derWolf_ said:
I have none of these issues, except the smearing, which with the update is fixed. Anything else is just perfect. I would say that this is the best mobile display put on a phone so far, and by faaaar the best SAMOLED out there.
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The latest update did NOT fix the smearing.
It is just no longer as noticeable in the settings of TW.
All 3rd party apps and even other parts of TW still have the purple smearing, even the stock gallery.
It is simply a drawback of the AMOLED display showing pure black by turning off the pixels.
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Liskrig said:
Those were all the issues I was afraid of...
I may risk it though, I believe Verizon has a pretty painless return/exchange policy.
Thanks for all the continued replies, I really appreciate it!
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It's worth the risk mate. The S4 is still one hell of a phone!
It's just a shame Samsung were blinded by the $$$ and didn't put the S4 through proper quality control.
If you bought it I don't think you'd regret it
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The latest update did NOT fix the smearing.
It is just no longer as noticeable in the settings of TW.
All 3rd party apps and even other parts of TW still have the purple smearing, even the stock gallery.
It is simply a drawback of the AMOLED display showing pure black by turning off the pixels.
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True, however for most of us it was most obvious in the settings menu, and it is gone from there, which is fine by me
However, you said it is a drawback of the AMOLED technology. I don't remember my old S2 having smearing issues? Or did it..
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True, however for most of us it was most obvious in the settings menu, and it is gone from there, which is fine by me
However, you said it is a drawback of the AMOLED technology. I don't remember my old S2 having smearing issues? Or did it..
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It's not a drawback of AMOLED it's a draw back of this display turning off pixels to make black.
The S, S2 and S3 did not shut down pixels for blacks.
You get better battery life and purer blacks on the S4 but the downside is the smearing effect.
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It's not a drawback of AMOLED it's a draw back of this display turning off pixels to make black.
The S, S2 and S3 did not shut down pixels for blacks.
You get better battery life and purer blacks on the S4 but the downside is the smearing effect.
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Your right...we have to live with it...the pixel are going from off to on when scrolling through black menus..thats why this happens. ..older galaxies never actually cut off...if wanna fix this you can use screen adjuster and slightly adjust the rgb, this will stop the smearing but also stop the pixels from turning off when displaying black
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Well i just noticed the dreaded screen smearing/purple haze on my new note 3 when i had the brightness turned all the way down, so i decided to check my new S5 and guess what its there too!
FU samsung how can they not pick up on this???
Yes there are fixes but it shouldn't be happening in the first place if you want to test yours out download the pic below, set brightness to 0 and zoom in on the pic and you will notice pink/purple smearing between the black and grey colours when moving the pic around.
Hmm wonder why they made all the menu bars green? now you know.
Don't see any problem in mine.
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Don't see any problem in mine.
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You need to have the screen brightness all the way down and make sure your looking real closely.
Out of the S4, note 3 and the s5 Samsung has seemed to make it the less noticeable on the S5.
What you could be seeing is the after image of the screen. You're seeing pink shade because of the way RGB is showing the color grey. You're seeing smearing because you could be moving the image around quite fast and the display is not fast enough to trail your fingers.
I followed your instructions and could see nothing that you are speaking of.
I have also previously owned a Note 3 and did not experience any "purple smearing" either.
In my opinion you are grossly overreacting.
mediumsteak said:
I followed your instructions and could see nothing that you are speaking of.
I have also previously owned a Note 3 and did not experience any "purple smearing" either.
In my opinion you are grossly overreacting.
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Have you read through THIS THREAD on it happening on the Note 3?
This is true exaxtly the same and really annoing when i want to use the phone at night how can i fix it
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I started the "infamous" thread over a year ago http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252445
Despite some thinking it was a software issue, it's simply a hardware issue with the panel.
The smearing occurs due to the native refresh times of the panel when going from completely off to dark shades, I.e black to greys etc.
The reason it wasn't an issue on older amoled screens was that the pixels were not completely off when displaying black, which is why in a dark room you could see a glow to blacks and also the "infamous streaks and blobs".
On the newer samsung amoled screens black is completely black, the pixels are not illuminated.
Samsung are just using cheap panels.
I spent a lot of money on an oled samsung tv there was the same issue. Putting a film on like sin city would highlight it. I returned the tv.
^S5 is the latest, so it's definitely new. So, was it really the panel?
What application requires one to view a dark grey image at 0 brightness zoomed in at 100%?
Come now, this thread is surely to attract the likes of trolls, or have I missed something?
I have no smearing, probably its all in your shorts lol.
homer285 said:
What application requires one to view a dark grey image at 0 brightness zoomed in at 100%?
Come now, this thread is surely to attract the likes of trolls, or have I missed something?
I have no smearing, probably its all in your shorts lol.
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Or you have bad vison. Just put ur brightnes to lowest and enter a dark roon and you will see it
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Ok lets be realistic, the people saying their S5's are not doing it are ether one of 2 things,....
1. Plain stupid and don't know how to adjust their phones display to reproduce the smearing, example: "homer285 What application requires one to view a dark grey image at 0 brightness zoomed in at 100%?"
2. or in denial and don't want to believe their perfect s5's could have such a flaw.
Because all S5s and note 3s for that matter are all shipped with the same display hardware tech, and no you don't have some super special s5 that has different hardware from everyone else cause your awesome .
Now saying that there are fixes for the problem, one can use a screen colour adjuster to keep the "off black pixils" turned slightly on witch helps big time but kills ur battery dead.
homer285 said:
What application requires one to view a dark grey image at 0 brightness zoomed in at 100%?
Come now, this thread is surely to attract the likes of trolls, or have I missed something?
I have no smearing, probably its all in your shorts lol.
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Not black on whole screen, but you may see pure black parts when you watch videos that are not on HD scale. Also, around 95% of movies have at least one dark or low-light scene.
Xanode said:
Ok lets be realistic, the people saying their S5's are not doing it are ether one of 2 things,....
1. Plain stupid and don't know how to adjust their phones display to reproduce the smearing, example: "homer285 What application requires one to view a dark grey image at 0 brightness zoomed in at 100%?"
2. or in denial and don't want to believe their perfect s5's could have such a flaw.
Because all S5s and note 3s for that matter are all shipped with the same display hardware tech, and no you don't have some super special s5 that has different hardware from everyone else cause your awesome .
Now saying that there are fixes for the problem, one can use a screen colour adjuster to keep the "off black pixils" turned slightly on witch helps big time but kills ur battery dead.
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Most of us are neither of those two. Just because you experienced it, it doesn't mean that everyone has. Phones are not made in a single batch/production date. It's impossible to produce millions of S5 in a single day anyway. All products sold internationally have the so-called batch date/number to trace possible problems. My previous S3 have the black blotches when screen is dark and viewed under very low light, but my friend's has none. Now, my S5 doesn't have any screen problems.
ramsenn said:
Or you have bad vison. Just put ur brightnes to lowest and enter a dark roon and you will see it
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Have fun with your "smearing" lol
I can confirm this too on my SM-G900F 16GB model... The Note 2 and S3 i owned didn't have this, but the S4 does and now the S5 also....
When having a black background (and lowered brightness) you'll notice it when swiping through the homescreen pages.
I don't know what causes this but i doubt it can't be fixed, yet Samsung continuous playing it their own way by ignoring the problem (the 'anti-smearing' update they once released was a joke)
This should only be a problem at night or in low light environments(typically when screen brightness is very low). I'm pretty sure it's a hardware limitation of Pentile AMOLED screens with the diamond sub pixel matrix, and thus affects all GS5's at low/very low brightness levels.
I've suggested this a couple of times on here, I'll say it again: 1.Change the screen mode to Cinema or Pro Photo.
2. (More importantly) Download Lux(free) and change the White Balance to Fluorescent. This slightly tints the blacks, and greatly reduces the smearing effect.
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denski101 said:
I'm pretty sure it's a hardware limitation of Pentile AMOLED screens, and thus affects all GS5's at low/very low brightness levels.
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The S3 had a PenTile AMOLED screen and it wasn't affected by this. AFAIK it's due to the Diamond Pixel layout Samsung uses on the latter Galaxy series.
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The S3 had a PenTile AMOLED screen and it wasn't affected by this. AFAIK it's due to the Diamond Pixel layout Samsung uses on the latter Galaxy series.
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Your right. I had that in mind, but was confusing Pentile and the Diamond pixel layout as one and the same. My mistake.
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Xanode said:
You need to have the screen brightness all the way down and make sure your looking real closely.
Out of the S4, note 3 and the s5 Samsung has seemed to make it the less noticeable on the S5.
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ramsenn said:
Or you have bad vison. Just put ur brightnes to lowest and enter a dark roon and you will see it
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wow, pathetic. I hate all the BS threads about how samsung screwed us on the screen. Basically, by saying to turn down the screen all the way down and looking closely, in a dark room, you are asking somebody to look for a problem that never happens in a real world scenario anyways? WTF is up with all the people looking for problems in technology? Honestly, why in tha hell do people always try to find the tiniest this and the smallest that in every piece of tech they own and then bash the constructor for it, things that in the first place only appear in VERY SPECIFIC SCENARIOS THAT YOU NEVER ENCOUNTER IN REAL LIFE?
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wow, pathetic. I hate all the BS threads about how samsung screwed us on the screen. Basically, by saying to turn down the screen all the way down and looking closely, in a dark room, you are asking somebody to look for a problem that never happens in a real world scenario anyways? WTF is up with all the people looking for problems in technology? Honestly, why in tha hell do people always try to find the tiniest this and the smallest that in every piece of tech they own and then bash the constructor for it, things that in the first place only appear in VERY SPECIFIC SCENARIOS THAT YOU NEVER ENCOUNTER IN REAL LIFE?
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Or you are just a kurwa who use full brightness at night to fuc up your eyes.
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By that i mean like, well i am coming from an S5 and the Screen and Picture/Display/Color quality of the S5 looked better in my eyes ...
the full hd of the S5 looked way better than the QHD of the N4 that i have now, and no its not fake it isnt damaged etc.
what bothers me about the N4 screen is how sharp it is, kind of harsh on my eyes to read text off it and not looking like HD..?
has yellow tones on whites.. so i use an app to add blue tint to whiten it abit.. hm..
my main issue is the screen not looking HD enough for me .. is it my eyes that play with me ?
do i need a week or two until i get used to the screen and will that make the screen look more HD for me .. i wonder -_- .
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By that i mean like, well i am coming from an S5 and the Screen and Picture/Display/Color quality of the S5 looked better in my eyes ...
the full hd of the S5 looked way better than the QHD of the N4 that i have now, and no its not fake it isnt damaged etc.
what bothers me about the N4 screen is how sharp it is, kind of harsh on my eyes to read text off it and not looking like HD..?
has yellow tones on whites.. so i use an app to add blue tint to whiten it abit.. hm..
my main issue is the screen not looking HD enough for me .. is it my eyes that play with me ?
do i need a week or two until i get used to the screen and will that make the screen look more HD for me .. i wonder -_- .
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Note 4 had the best display in 2014 and still is one of the best in the market, I don't know how you are noticing otherwise. I had a Galaxy S5 Prime (QHD display) and I prefer the larger display of the Note 4.
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Note 4 had the best display in 2014 and still is one of the best in the market, I don't know how you are noticing otherwise. I had a Galaxy S5 Prime (QHD display) and I prefer the larger display of the Note 4.
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i really think that, i have to get used to the 5.7" .. this phone is a friggin beast, the best phone the fastest phone i have had...
my only one issue is the picture quality density color etc. i need to get used to the QHD of it i believe.. mmh.
and the camera is exceptional, i will try getting used to the huge screen, thanks for the feedback bro ! i think its just my eyes that need to adapt to the screen XD .
Well i kinda had the same experience, i came from a note 3 and noticed a diffrence in how the image was displayed on the screen, things seemed harder to see, not that things were smaller but just harder to see.
in my case i have sensitive eyes and the PWM effect on this screen is what i saw.
N4 has much more agressive PWM so the screen flickers more to conserve power.
In theory you should not be able to see it as it flickers at a rate of 240Hz i believe but still i see it, so in fact you have lesser information reaching your eyes as a solid picture.
After using the device for almost a year now i got used to it, i still see it but it does not bother me that much anymore.
"The Galaxy Note 7 provides many major and important state-of-the-art display enhancements, with mobile OLED display technology now advancing faster than ever," Soneira said. "The Galaxy Note 7 is the most innovative and high-performance smartphone display that we have ever tested."
CNET: http://bit.ly/2bczClL
Displaymate :http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note7_ShootOut_1.htm
I thought it was the exact same screen as the S7 Edge. Am I wrong? Also, Sony came out with a 4K screen; that's better than the N7 screen, right? Not arguing, just trying to understand.
rile1564 said:
I thought it was the exact same screen as the S7 Edge. Am I wrong? Also, Sony came out with a 4K screen; that's better than the N7 screen, right? Not arguing, just trying to understand.
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No, it isn't the same screen at all.
Resolution isn't everything. No human is able to discern the difference between 4K and 1440p on a display of this size at the distance we use phones from, so that's just marketing fluff. Subpixel rendering (as found on the N7) is also a pretty big improvement over most (but not all) competitors' screens.
Read through the article - I know it's long, but it'll make things very clear as to why some screens are better than others, and specifically why the N7's screen is better than the S7E's.
All you need to do is look at the two together in direct sunlight and you can see they are not the same screen. My son has my old GS6, and he was struggling in Pokemon Go yesterday, but my Note 7 may as well have been indoors it was so bright. Comparing the GS7E to the Note 7, just from a laymans view, the GN7 is clearly brighter as well in direct light, goes dimmer in the dark while maintaining readability, and the new dual ambient sensors change the brightness nearly instantaneously. The blue light filter is a nice touch as well, although I am not sure I will keep using it.
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I thought it was the exact same screen as the S7 Edge. Am I wrong? Also, Sony came out with a 4K screen; that's better than the N7 screen, right? Not arguing, just trying to understand.
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nope not the same as the s7 edge screen.
I got both phone and as soon as i tunr on the note 7 i could tell.
The screen is very nice. Clear and bright. I am sure its the best samsung cellphone screen that is out todate.
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All you need to do is look at the two together in direct sunlight and you can see they are not the same screen. My son has my old GS6, and he was struggling in Pokemon Go yesterday, but my Note 7 may as well have been indoors it was so bright. Comparing the GS7E to the Note 7, just from a laymans view, the GN7 is clearly brighter as well in direct light, goes dimmer in the dark while maintaining readability, and the new dual ambient sensors change the brightness nearly instantaneously. The blue light filter is a nice touch as well, although I am not sure I will keep using it.
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I've noticed that the dual ambient light sensor makes for very accurate and fast brightness changes, too. On every other phone I've owned I've had to install Lux... but Samsung duplicated most of its functionality, and upgraded the hardware to make it even more accurate.