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Anyone who just recently purchased this device debating a return following this news?
http://www.androidcentral.com/nvidia-kal-el-quad-core-tablets-coming-fall-phones-early-2012
Just looking for what people's take is on this. I tend to debate my buying decisions until I can't return the device haha.
BlueGoldAce said:
Anyone who just recently purchased this device debating a return following this news?
http://www.androidcentral.com/nvidia-kal-el-quad-core-tablets-coming-fall-phones-early-2012
Just looking for what people's take is on this. I tend to debate my buying decisions until I can't return the device haha.
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I too read and saw all those kal-el quad core, and was quite excited. But again, the technology changes the moment something new comes in the market.
On side note, I got $100 price match @ BB for 32gb + $60 reward certificate. So no buyers remorse here.
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Nope. There is always something better on the horizon. I'll enjoy my time with the Tab for now, and buy a newer/better one when the time comes.
Zargon335 said:
Nope. There is always something better on the horizon. I'll enjoy my time with the Tab for now, and buy a newer/better one when the time comes.
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Agreed......
Zargon335 said:
Nope. There is always something better on the horizon. I'll enjoy my time with the Tab for now, and buy a newer/better one when the time comes.
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Incorrect. Someone who is on a budget would be foolish to purchase a tegra 2 tablet today as once tegra 3 is released VERY soon they will lose half the value of the tablet before they even have begun to finish learning how to use it.
You are incorrect because even thought there is always something better on the horizon, tegra 3 is coming out NOW so there is no point in wasting money on current tegra 2 units. Very bad form....
5thElement said:
Incorrect. Someone who is on a budget would be foolish to purchase a tegra 2 tablet today as once tegra 3 is released VERY soon they will lose half the value of the tablet before they even have begun to finish learning how to use it.
You are incorrect because even thought there is always something better on the horizon, tegra 3 is coming out NOW so there is no point in wasting money on current tegra 2 units. Very bad form....
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Name one device that will be on store shelves within 30 days that is based on Tegra 3. (If you can't, then it is YOU who are incorrect in saying that "tegra 3 is coming out NOW".)
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Nope. There is always something better on the horizon. I'll enjoy my time with the Tab for now, and buy a newer/better one when the time comes.
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same here. only thing is that i don't see a real use for quad core yet as nothing has taxed 2 cores yet - other than benchmarks and having to software decode some videos. where are the apps that will need this kind of power?
5thElement said:
Incorrect. Someone who is on a budget would be foolish to purchase a tegra 2 tablet today as once tegra 3 is released VERY soon they will lose half the value of the tablet before they even have begun to finish learning how to use it.
You are incorrect because even thought there is always something better on the horizon, tegra 3 is coming out NOW so there is no point in wasting money on current tegra 2 units. Very bad form....
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Every one of your posts are negative. If tegra 3 takes as long as tegra 2 took to come out, we are looking at a possible release of maybe late next year. I doubt NVIDIA would be dumb enough to release it now when their tegra 2 chips are selling like mad.
Tegra 3 may be coming but since not one device has been announced or even leaked I'll bet it's at least another three month till we see a new tegra 3 tablet. I wouldn't hold my breath, it's maybe even more realistic that the device makers wait for the Christmas sale.
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Every one of your posts are negative. If tegra 3 takes as long as tegra 2 took to come out, we are looking at a possible release of maybe late next year. I doubt NVIDIA would be dumb enough to release it now when their tegra 2 chips are selling like mad.
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Whaaaa??? Tegra 2 has been out for over a year now. Yes over a YEAR. It was googles fault for not finishing honeycomb in a timely manner.
Most Mfrs have STOPPED production of tegra 2 units, xoom production for example has ended over a month ago.
Tegra 3 is here, its READY, and Mfr are producing stock of tegra 3 tablets right NOW.
Tegra 3 tablets will be here to purchase in September. Unless you have money to burn it would be very foolish to buy tegra 2 unit now.
Tegra 3 tablets will be here to purchase in September. Unless you have money to burn it would be very foolish to buy tegra 2 unit now.
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I just wish we had solid proof/confirmation that the Kal-El Tabs will be available to consumers as early as that, there's just so much speculation.
I'm very close to ordering a 32 Gig Tab 10.1 after waiting ... and waiting .... for it to be released over here. I'm now fed up with waiting but I'd be very pissed if I were to shell out almost £500 only to find that the Quad core version was to be launched a few weeks later.
Its like buying a new car and loosing thousands just by driving it off the lot.
You sit there and wait for the next best thing....you will be waiting a long time!!
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Its like buying a new car and loosing thousands just by driving it off the lot.
You sit there and wait for the next best thing....you will be waiting a long time!!
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Again you are simply wrong. You're not going to have to wait long because tegra 3 tablets are being released in September. They are being Mfred right now and its a MASSIVE upgrade from tegra 2 which is over a year old now.
You cant win this debate with "You sit there and wait for the next best thing....you will be waiting a long time!!" because it is simply not true in this case.
I dont understand how others dont understand this....
As far as I know the only quad-core mobile device that will be available to consumers this fall/winter is the PS Vita. If quad-core tablets are arriving this fall you'd think we would have seen announcements, leaks or previews by now yeah?
Either way, I purchased my tab fully aware that quad-core devices would be likely be arriving within 6 to 8 months. I don't regret the purchase as I've been happy with the performance of the tab and I make use of it every day. As of right now I expect to keep the device until software is released that the tab isn't powerful enough to run.
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As far as I know the only quad-core mobile device that will be available to consumers this fall/winter is the PS Vita. If quad-core tablets are arriving this fall you'd think we would have seen announcements, leaks or previews by now yeah?
Either way, I purchased my tab fully aware that quad-core devices would be likely be arriving within 6 to 8 months. I don't regret the purchase as I've been happy with the performance of the tab and I make use of it every day. As of right now I expect to keep the device until software is released that the tab isn't powerful enough to run.
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At this point Mfrs are keeping a VERY hush hush attitude about the new Tegra 3 unit they are producing right now. Why? Because they dont want tegra 2 sales to suffer. They know tegra 2 is OLD despite what consumers think and releasing information about such a massive upgrade to Tegra 3 would only hinder old tegra 2 unit sales.
I can tell you for sure Tegra 3 units from ALL mfrs are being kept HIGHLY secretive until launch date. The only way we will get any info about them is when they hit the FCC. After they hit the FCC they are usually out on the floor for sale the following week.
You have to understand that my knowledge flows far beyond computers, and tablets all the way to economics which is why its easy for me to understand what is going on.
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Incorrect. Someone who is on a budget would be foolish to purchase a tegra 2 tablet today as once tegra 3 is released VERY soon they will lose half the value of the tablet before they even have begun to finish learning how to use it.
You are incorrect because even thought there is always something better on the horizon, tegra 3 is coming out NOW so there is no point in wasting money on current tegra 2 units. Very bad form....
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So you agree with me?
Also, where are all the Tegra 3 devices that are out now?
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So you agree with me?
Also, where all the Tegra 3 devices that are out now?
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Yes I do agree, but it is not relevant in this case since tegra 3 is so ridiculously close that it would be foolish to buy tegra 2 now unless you have money to literally throw out the window.
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Yes I do agree, but it is not relevant in this case since tegra 3 is so ridiculously close that it would be foolish to buy tegra 2 now unless you have money to literally throw out the window.
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Any further insight on the Tegra 3 devices you stated are out now? Or was that just BS as well?
It's amazing, if you look around these forums long enough you start to realize that 5thElement's only role is to troll the hell out of everyone. Every other thread he contradicts himself, sometimes saying the exact opposite of what he's posted before.
It's really sad that people who might be new to XDA or a new Tab owner will be misled by this character, probably because this person is extremely bored and screwing around with others is their hobby.
No wonder people have sworn off XDA.
MMcCraryNJ said:
It's amazing, if you look around these forums long enough you start to realize that 5thElement's only role is to troll the hell out of everyone. Every other thread he contradicts himself, sometimes saying the exact opposite of what he's posted before.
It's really sad that people who might be new to XDA or a new Tab owner will be misled by this character, probably because this person is extremely bored and screwing around with others is their hobby.
No wonder people have sworn off XDA.
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Haha i havent been on these forums long, but its common knowledge that 5thElement hasno idea what hes talking about. Its funny really. I just sit back and laugh
Btw posting this from my outdated tab 10.1 lol
REALLY??!!! SERIOUSLY????!!! How many tablets does Sammy think they need to through out at the public to get that they aren't going to sell until they lower prices, not specs! End rant.
Lower prices? The 10.1 is $50 cheaper than the iPad and the 8.9 is $100 cheaper...
I think they are currently priced just about right...
Wish they lowered the prices on the older tabs significantly.
Means we can root em and flash our own builds for a reasonable price
they are just making fools of the peoples who took tabs recently ....i got my first tab SGT p1000 first then few months later this 10.1 came up i took that traded for my p1000 now this 7.7 got infrared and can do calls too..god they gonna make me trade my 10.1 too
i agree, i think this is the only problem with android, we are being flooded with devices at them moment, hopefully it will slow down and we can see some more quality devices come out... pricing for samsungs tabs though are great i think, leave the lower market to other companies, I want a powerful device in my hands.
Yeah but they just need to take a break for a moment
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yogeshmha said:
they are just making fools of the peoples who took tabs recently ....i got my first tab SGT p1000 first then few months later this 10.1 came up i took that traded for my p1000 now this 7.7 got infrared and can do calls too..god they gonna make me trade my 10.1 too
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Hold up though... The Galaxy Tab 2 is 7.7", dual core, 1ghz ram etc etc... right?
I bought mine a few weeks ago and did so because I read the new Galaxy Tab would be 7.7". I definitely wanted the 10" form factor. I love my Tab but don't want to be a fool (not that kind anyway)! Now I'm second guessing purchase
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they are just making fools of the peoples who took tabs recently ....i got my first tab SGT p1000 first then few months later this 10.1 came up i took that traded for my p1000 now this 7.7 got infrared and can do calls too..god they gonna make me trade my 10.1 too
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This is exactly what I mean! Sammy has now released like 5 new tablets with same basic hardware of their old tablets.. Tegra 3 is ready and being used by Asus already! I like Samsung's hardware the best, but I'm just sick of seeing *New tablets with underwhelming, old hardware in them.. I know that price is def a factor, but manufacturing 20 different tablets is expensive.. if they had 3 form factors/models it would save money for them, and then us!
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Tegra 3 is ready and being used by Asus already!
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Nvidia's on record saying they've lost Samsung as a customer and now consider them a competitor. So, don't hold your breath for Teg3. Teg3 is actually two old-gen A9 chips glommed together. Samsung's Exynos 5250 is in sampling making it the first A15 chip on the market when it’s supposed to release in Q2. Raw HP isn't the real issue with mobile devices. It's GPU bandwidth. A15 chips will be more powerful than Teg3 and have 5x the graphics b/w. I think a lot of manufacturers are intentionally skipping Teg3 and moving directly to A15 chips (from Samsung, TI, and Qualcomm) which are easier to fabricate and potentially less expensive. The Prime’s having a ton of issues where different devices behave differently when updates are rolled out. It’s too early to say its Teg3 but it’s a potential candidate for the problems.
Meh, I like choice. I don't see the point of complaining about it; unless you're an early adopter, you'll always be a step behind. Here' my suggestion for you: stop worrying about having the newest snazziest gear and enjoy what you do have. It's not a race.
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Meh, I like choice. I don't see the point of complaining about it; unless you're an early adopter, you'll always be a step behind. Here' my suggestion for you: stop worrying about having the newest snazziest gear and enjoy what you do have. It's not a race.
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It's not abt race its just we buy a thing today and tomorrow they come up with the improvised one unfair u know
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It's not abt race its just we buy a thing today and tomorrow they come up with the improvised one unfair u know
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"Unfair" would suggest they owe you some duty of not producing new models. Have you really thought this through? "We buy a thing today, and tomorrow they come up with the improv[ed] one." If this is unfair, how long do they have to wait? Do you realize that they released this tablet in May of 2011, 9 months ago, right? You also realize that the successor does not yet exist, right? This is the same complaint I've heard about technology for the last 20 years. I still don't get it.
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Nvidia's on record saying they've lost Samsung as a customer and now consider them a competitor. So, don't hold your breath for Teg3. Teg3 is actually two old-gen A9 chips glommed together. Samsung's Exynos 5250 is in sampling making it the first A15 chip on the market when it’s supposed to release in Q2. Raw HP isn't the real issue with mobile devices. It's GPU bandwidth. A15 chips will be more powerful than Teg3 and have 5x the graphics b/w. I think a lot of manufacturers are intentionally skipping Teg3 and moving directly to A15 chips (from Samsung, TI, and Qualcomm) which are easier to fabricate and potentially less expensive. The Prime’s having a ton of issues where different devices behave differently when updates are rolled out. It’s too early to say its Teg3 but it’s a potential candidate for the problems.
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BUT there is ALWAYS something better around the corner. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Nuff said. I agree Samsungs SOC will be better, but will it be too late? Look at Windows Phone 7, its great, but 3-4 years too late..
My main point..
Is Samsung going to seriously produce 20 different models of tablets? I understand it being nice to have 'choices', but Samsung has enough work keeping past models firmware relevant, let alone producing 20 new version/sizes every few months, there is no way they can properly support that many.. I wouldn't think twice is they made actually changes to new models like vastly improved batteries, or more memory etc.
I've been saying for many years that if you buy an electronic device, it will be obsolete BEFORE you make it out of the front door of the store. You might make it back home if you buy the most expensive model of whatever. It's just the way of high tech devices these days. We consumers have only helped them by replacing perfectly functional devices just for the lasted and greatest one. Even if the new one has twice the speed or memory, do you need it?
Probably not. Yet we continue to demand, and purchase, which is just encouragement for them to continue. I honestly think its only gonna get worse. It's really our fault as consumers always wanting more and better; NOW.
When I was growing up electronics were durable goods. You bought a TV and you kept it until it quit working. Now we buy a new one because of widget xyz is better on the new model. I'm guilty of this myself also, just not as much as I used to be. Even though I have more money to spend these days.
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"Unfair" would suggest they owe you some duty of not producing new models. Have you really thought this through? "We buy a thing today, and tomorrow they come up with the improv[ed] one." If this is unfair, how long do they have to wait? Do you realize that they released this tablet in May of 2011, 9 months ago, right? You also realize that the successor does not yet exist, right? This is the same complaint I've heard about technology for the last 20 years. I still don't get it.
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It seems u got loads of money in ur bank! If it's overloading send me i will bug new tab every day
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yogeshmha said:
It seems u got loads of money in ur bank! If it's overloading send me i will bug new tab every day
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So you can encourage the manufacturers to do more of what you're b!tching about more? :what:
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yogeshmha said:
It seems u got loads of money in ur bank! If it's overloading send me i will bug new tab every day
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That's ridiculous. If you knew me you'd know what a silly thing to say that is. But beyond that, my statement is exactly the opposite: I'm saying "be happy with what you have, not unhappy about what you don't have." See if you can figure out the difference between gadget lust and gadget envy.
Didn't mean any offense if it was taken that way. Just good natured hard time I was intending.
Sometimes hard to relay sarcasm in a post.
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OP puts Galaxy Tab 2 in the title, then complains about how many tablets are coming out from Samsung? I mean, if you put Galaxy Note 10.1 in the title, that would make some sense, but the Galaxy Tab 2 is apparently the direct successor of the original Galaxy Tab that came out in 2010 and it's not even out yet. Who knows when it comes out.
So, I assume everyone browsing this forum has the G2. I really am still in love with this device. The main reason is the physical keyboard. I also know though that there are a lot of phones coming out that will probably blow the phone away.
So what are you guys doing with the releases of HTC One series? Also, what about phones from other carriers?
I thought it would be good to hear some opinions because I am carefully considering the HTC One S with TMobile.
The HTC One S looks like a nice device- the S4 seems to have mostly better specs than the quad core international version.
For me, however, it is missing a few things: microSD card and NFC. If it had more internal memory, then the microSD card would be a non-issue. If I am going get a new phone, then I would rather get a phone with newer features (NFC), rather than a slightly better phone than I have now. It would be like getting a phone that didn't have a front facing camera or bluetooth.
I like HTC phones, but I think the One S is a little too lean on features. I expect that there will be better phones later this year that have all the features I want.
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The HTC One S looks like a nice device- the S4 seems to have mostly better specs than the quad core international version.
For me, however, it is missing a few things: microSD card and NFC. If it had more internal memory, then the microSD card would be a non-issue. If I am going get a new phone, then I would rather get a phone with newer features (NFC), rather than a slightly better phone than I have now. It would be like getting a phone that didn't have a front facing camera or bluetooth.
I like HTC phones, but I think the One S is a little too lean on features. I expect that there will be better phones later this year that have all the features I want.
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Yeah, what do you think about the Nexus?
The Galaxy Nexus? That seems OK, but since the dual core S4 phones are announced, it seems a little dated. If I had to chose, I think I would wait for a better phone. If I was still running a donut rom on my G1, then the galaxy nexus or the One S would be an easy choice. But since I'm rocking my G2 with Audacity, I would rather wait for a phone that has all the features I'm looking for. Hopefully, T-mo will come out with a worthy phone in the G series.
Do you know what phones are supporting the Snapdragon S4? I thought that was a long time away? I haven't been in the mobile phone circle for some time now.
That makes 2 of us.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
There are only a handful of phones and tablets that have been announced for the S4 - One s and XL, and EVO 4G LTE. At this point, my dream phone will be released late 2012. The S5 platform is a 28 nm process, so waiting for the S4 will have a lot of added value compared to the current state of the art 45 nm process.
For comparison, our beloved G2/DZ is a 45 nm SoC, while the Tegra 2 and 3 series are 40 nm processes. So 28 nm is the next milestone. Of course, process size is not the only measure of a phone, but I would use it as a benchmark to see how much of an upgrade you'll be getting.
I was pretty set on getting a One S, but the more I look into it, the more I want to wait for a bigger upgrade across the board. The one exception is size- the G2 is a great size and I don't won't to drift towards the phablet area. I want a cool phone, not a half-shrunken laptop.
Im wonder why the G2 is still the last worthy qwerty phone tmo has had. It sucks because when i needed a phone the G2x had just come out and i was upgrading from mytouch slide. I love my G2x but i miss having a keyboard. Now i am due for a full upgrade and still tmo has no worthy qwerty phones.
Yeah I am in love with the form factor of the G2. I also love the physical keyboard. I think a lot of users prefer that option, so I wish they would make more of these options available.
I do wish the G2 was a little bigger though. I don't think that phones like the Nexus or One X are too big, they are not the Galaxy Note after all.
I think I am going to hold off for the end of 2012 for multiple reasons. I will be more willing to upgrade then.
edit: I am actually waiting on TMobile to send me a replacement phone. Mine only boots in to the HTC screen and then never goes past. They offered me a Sidekick for free instead, but I don't know why that would be much better. I guess I research the ICS roms available and move that way until the end of the year. Thanks for the link, and the input.
@gee_one the architecture doesn't really increase performance, at least not directly. It does lower operating temperature and power consumption, which may or may not allow for even more overclocking, and thus more performance.
@joe333x have you tried the htc doubleshot (branded as mytouch4g slide). It's a fast phone and perhaps a decent upgrade from the g2/dz. Although I think it'd be better to wait for a phone with the newer s4/tegra soc's.
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@gee_one the architecture doesn't really increase performance, at least not directly. It does lower operating temperature and power consumption, which may or may not allow for even more overclocking, and thus more performance.
@joe333x have you tried the htc doubleshot (branded as mytouch4g slide). It's a fast phone and perhaps a decent upgrade from the g2/dz. Although I think it'd be better to wait for a phone with the newer s4/tegra soc's.
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So if I read tech specs correctly, you want see much difference from the cpu the HTC One S offers and the phones in the next year or so?
Correct me if I'm wrong but the One S is going to offer the Qualcomm S
4 Krait SoC, right? That's definitely going to last long enough till you upgrade.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the One S is going to offer the Qualcomm S
4 Krait SoC, right? That's definitely going to last long enough till you upgrade.
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You mean an additional 2 years?
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Do you know what phones are supporting the Snapdragon S4? I thought that was a long time away? I haven't been in the mobile phone circle for some time now.
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The One XL (US AT&T version of the One X) has the S4, and that phone is speculated to be released in the next few weeks. Some folks on XDA are even hoping for an announcement this week, and a release date next week (4/22?). An early test device has already been benchmarked by an AT&T employee, and it smokes every other Android device around, including tablets:
http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-xl-benchmark-snapdragon-s4-tegra-3-67678/
if they come up whit One Z, and if it will look cool, might get.
I never thought I would say this, but I think I'll be able to live without the hardware keyboard. I won't qualify for the full upgrade subsidy until the end of September, and while the One S looks like a pretty nice phone, I'm much more interested in what Samsung is going to announce at the beginning of May. Then again, by the end of September, there may be something even better.
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I never thought I would say this, but I think I'll be able to live without the hardware keyboard. I won't qualify for the full upgrade subsidy until the end of September, and while the One S looks like a pretty nice phone, I'm much more interested in what Samsung is going to announce at the beginning of May. Then again, by the end of September, there may be something even better.
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Yeah, I have full upgrade as of now, so I am trying to read up on the One S and the SGS3 for now. I think the lack of hardware keyboard will not be too much of a big deal, even though I will miss it. I do like that the SGS3 should be bigger, but overall I am interested in processing power and what will last the longest.
There is no information on who will receive the SGS3 is there? I have started to just live with the fact that there will be new, better technology in the mobile world every few months, so I may just be going with the One S. But Samsung will release more only a week or so after the One S release, so I may wait it out all the same.
Decisions, decisions.
At bare minimum, the krait will definitely last 2 years before it ends up in a DZ esque situation, performance wise, that is. Right now, it seems that it's the fastest chip around, and I really don't see a how android is going to need faster performing devices for the forseeable future.
The One S would personally last me 2 and a half, maybe 3 years. I'm guessing 2 years for the average joe. The krait is a very promising soc and will last for a while. Although, I'd still wait to see what else HTC is going to offer. Still hoping for a keyboard device, heh...
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Yeah, I am awaiting a keyboard phone also, but with my current financial situation I might need to hold off until the end of the year to see what they release and what the SGS3 looks like.
That is in fact the better course of action. Right now it's a really bad time to buy a smartphone..
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I think the biggest draw for me will be stock ICS- when there is a new T-mo phone that has stock ICS, I'll be there. I can flex on the small things like sd card and physical keyboard, but Sense is a no-go.
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I dont know about anyone else but I am feeling just a bit ripped off that not even 6 months after the I9300 (SGSIII) was released that there is NOW a FULL Samsung Quad Core device WITH LTE AND 2G of RAM.
I live in Canada and we do have LTE networks here and the only options we really had were either to buy the International Version from an importer to get the QuadCore device (which I did) OR to get a DualCore Qualcomm device with the LTE and the 2G of RAM from one of our carriers.
Anyone else feeling just a bit put out?
You are right, lets convince Samsung to wait for five years to release a better device. They are not a company and don't have to profit anyway.
Enjoy what you have man. Your phone is not worse now, it is the same.
I'll only be pissed if they release a version without the wake-up lag and physical home button. Other than that, a few small inconsequential improvements don't matter to me.
Cool.. someone pissed off by the wake-up lag.
Likewise. It's actually worse than the SGSII!
Btw, you can disable S-voice launching for home button and that removes the home button lag. Check out the S-voice settings..
I don´t need LTE, because in Germany 3G is not perfect yet and they talk about LTE hahaha -.-
juliano_q said:
You are right, lets convince Samsung to wait for five years to release a better device. They are not a company and don't have to profit anyway.
Enjoy what you have man. Your phone is not worse now, it is the same.
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It would be different if they were releasing a completely new device but it begs the question as to why they couldnt have just released a QuadCore LTE device in the first place instead of LESS than 6 months after the original devices had been released.
I understand that Sammy is a company looking to make money and I am quite a loyal Sammy user but this just seems silly to me. And trust me... I LOVE my phone but that extra Gig of RAM sure would be nice to have... :silly:
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I'll only be pissed if they release a version without the wake-up lag and physical home button. Other than that, a few small inconsequential improvements don't matter to me.
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Lol... Fair enough...
Why would anyone be pissed about it? To get mad over a newer device than what you have is just a tad silly if you ask me.
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Were you seriously hoping the SGSIII to be the last phone ever?
Not really, but am pissed I'm on a contract and the SGS 4 shall be out in March/April 2013. 14 months before this contract runs out!
Might put away $2 per day in the cookie jar and sell this then and buy it outright..
Swyped on GT-I9300 - XXDLIB - Siyah kernel - JKay & Thunderbolt tweaks.
Sell yours and get the new one.
I debated against the qualcom with more memory of the exynos quad.
Exynos quad won.
If I wanted a phone that never changes and hardly ever improves I'd buy a freaking iPhone, but I have more than half a brain and knew this was gonna happen the day they announced no LTE and only 1gb ram on international i9300.
It's the nature of technology... can happen with anything
i think it's normal today :silly:
But here in germany LTE starts very slowly... so it comes with the next phone (~2years) for me maybe
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It would be different if they were releasing a completely new device but it begs the question as to why they couldnt have just released a QuadCore LTE device in the first place instead of LESS than 6 months after the original devices had been released.
I understand that Sammy is a company looking to make money and I am quite a loyal Sammy user but this just seems silly to me. And trust me... I LOVE my phone but that extra Gig of RAM sure would be nice to have... :silly:
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Because they couldn't put LTE and the S4 in the phone at the time, only when developing the note 2 they realised the solution to use it.
I share your disappointment and anger, and I too feel cheated out of several hundred dollars.
I kinda lost my trust in Samsung. I could buy a Note II, but what if I wait 3-4 months and Samsung releases a revamped version of it? No way! I am never buying another Samsung device so close to launch anymore.
Yeah, if you're pissed about this, the next phone you buy should be made by one of the companies that don't release improved versions and/or newer better phones in the future... Because, you know... There are a lot of those companies, for example... uh... hmm... let's see... well I can't think of any right now but I'm sure there are some, because it sounds like a great business model and all.
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Yeah, if you're pissed about this, the next phone you buy should be made by one of the companies that don't release improved versions and/or newer better phones in the future... Because, you know... There are a lot of those companies, for example... uh... hmm... let's see... well I can't think of any right now but I'm sure there are some, because it sounds like a great business model and all.
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I can think of one.....Apple!
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I can think of one.....Apple!
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Well, touché, kind of... But they do release newer, more shiny devices every year that cause people to get itchy for an update too.
I do get your humor and your underlying point, my own point (as I'm sure you also know) is just that every company does this. No company will ever release a phone and then be like "well guys, this is it - this phone is so good that we won't make another one now for three years", which is what some people seem to be expecting...
I almost sold my SG3 to collect funds for a note 2 but then I thought about it, Why? I love this phone, there is nothing wrong with it, its fast and has tons of support. I know tomorrow there will be like 5 more devices that may have better specs and do more but I will stick with my i9300 for a year or so, at least till the SG4 comes out, I am not going to jump ship as soon as a new phone comes out,
Maybe they will make an i9310 with 1.6 quad core and mali 400mp with slightly higher clock speeds!!
Now that I'm officially on the 3 week wait period, I am wondering if the HTC One X+ would be a better buy. Yes, I lose the latest version of Android for now but I'm sure HTC will upgrade it soon. What I do gain is supposedly a better camera and lots more storage. Not sure about the performance and battery life between the two. If price was not an issue, would you chose the One X+?
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Now that I'm officially on the 3 week wait period, I am wondering if the HTC One X+ would be a better buy. Yes, I lose the latest version of Android for now but I'm sure HTC will upgrade it soon. What I do gain is supposedly a better camera and lots more storage. Not sure about the performance and battery life between the two. If price was not an issue, would you chose the One X+?
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I thought it had nice stats and I love HTC devices. I would have probably gotten it if it wasn't for the N4. That said man. I love this N4. If you were wanting it, I'd wait it out. You'll be happy you did.
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Now that I'm officially on the 3 week wait period, I am wondering if the HTC One X+ would be a better buy. Yes, I lose the latest version of Android for now but I'm sure HTC will upgrade it soon. What I do gain is supposedly a better camera and lots more storage. Not sure about the performance and battery life between the two. If price was not an issue, would you chose the One X+?
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I've owned HTC devices, they're good but HTC will not update it soon. Maybe by next year. The camera is better and you wouldn't have to wait, otherwise I'd go with the Nexus 4.
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I thought it had nice stats and I love HTC devices. I would have probably gotten it if it wasn't for the N4. That said man. I love this N4. If you were wanting it, I'd wait it out. You'll be happy you did.
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Thanks for your response. Is the glass on the back of your phone scary? There is a thread here of someone cracking it and the verge review also mentioned the back cracking. I have had my iphone 4s slipped off my hands a few times (didn't crack though)
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Thanks for your response. Is the glass on the back of your phone scary? There is a thread here of someone cracking it and the verge review also mentioned the back cracking. I have had my iphone 4s slipped off my hands a few times (didn't crack though)
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It's very slippery indeed. Especially if you place it down on an uneven surface. I'm definitely going to buy a coating for the back or a case.
If price wasn't an issue, I would purchase the One X+ rather than wait indefinitely for the N4.
Anyone has any performance or battery life comparisons? I understand the Nexus 4 has a more powerful CPU but from what I'm reading, it throttles down more than it should. In that case, does the One X+ end up being a better overall performer?
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Thanks for your response. Is the glass on the back of your phone scary? There is a thread here of someone cracking it and the verge review also mentioned the back cracking. I have had my iphone 4s slipped off my hands a few times (didn't crack though)
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Scary? No. Fragile? Perhaps. But I have had quite a few phones and they all seem like that to me. I put a TPU case on it. It raises the screen off of any surface so I don't scratch it and it will protect it from a small fall.
The Battery has been ok for me. I got about 8 hours yesterday with heavy usage and I was at 41% when I crashed, so I left it on my chest of drawers and this morning it was at 39%. I thought that was cool. My Inspire would have been almost dead.
Nexus has more RAM and a much better SoC. There isn't much between the One X and the One X+, and I don't regret changing one bit.
Of you are thinking of HTC I would suggest getting an N4 users ditched one off eBay and saving a bit of cash.
No S-OFF for them, mind, which is gash.
My only concern is the fact that tegra 3 is really outdated. Regardless what benchmarks say and what not. They are outdated.
The tegra 3 is still fast and has good performance, while that's all fun and good there's still many many down sides
1. Google is moving at a fast pace, that means => more updates
2. for HTC sense that means they will have to put that into their UI - if you're aware of htc you should know by now that their sense UI framework all goes together. That means if one part doesn't work you probably won't get the rest of it to work. This means that updates generally probably take longer to integrate into sense than it does into stock android. Even galaxy s3 is a better option in my opinion, the reason i believe samsung is able to upgrade their devices faster than HTC is because their UI is NOT as complicated. IMO touchwiz is just stock with a few things refurbished.
3.LOCKED BOOTLOADER - I'll say it once and i'll say it again, flashing is easy. Very easy. However, there are MANY people who are on leaked jelly bean rom via flashing.
Where's the problem you ask? The problem is that it is only flashable to a certain number of cids. In the htc one x/jelly bean leak update case, the jelly bean rom was only flashable to european cids, this means that MANY people couldn't flash their phone despite having rooted and some even unbranded phones.
This is in my opinion very unfair of htc and a good reason to choose not to go for HTC until they sort this mess out.
4. The price of the htc one x -> 520~530 euros... No thank you, you can get an as equally good device (nexus 4) for cheaper. And even if it is not cheaper in your country and costs you 500 euros, it is still better than an outdated tegra 3 chip with slow updates.
I have the feeling google will sort out battery problems. Just give them time. Once again, that's just my opinion, but i have faith in google.
oh and #5...
Tegra 4 is probably coming out next year, which isn't too far from now, you might have to wait a few months. But before getting this outdated chip you might wanna stick to nothing or buy a nexus 4. I know i'd do that, but i want to go for google this time around because they give you the best experience in the long run.
Well, you could have one before a month so if your in a hurry its a good buy.
Other than that, I wouldn't. Primarily due to the screens HTC uses, but that is personal preference.
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Now that I'm officially on the 3 week wait period, I am wondering if the HTC One X+ would be a better buy. Yes, I lose the latest version of Android for now but I'm sure HTC will upgrade it soon. What I do gain is supposedly a better camera and lots more storage. Not sure about the performance and battery life between the two. If price was not an issue, would you chose the One X+?
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If you cannot wait it out like me, I would suggest the galaxy note 2 if the size and price is not a concern for you. I got the international version because it receives updates faster that the American carrier crippled versions.
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If you cannot wait it out like me, I would suggest the galaxy note 2 if the size and price is not a concern for you. I got the international version because it receives updates faster that the American carrier crippled versions.
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The Note 2 is massive! I tried one out but couldn't get used to the size.
I was definitely going to get the One X+ until they announced the N4, which became my preference, With the delay I have looked at the HOX+ again but prefer to wait for the N4, due to price, better SOC, updates.
However if HTC were to announce a WW version of the DNA.............
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Nexus has more RAM and a much better SoC. There isn't much between the One X and the One X+, and I don't regret changing one bit.
Of you are thinking of HTC I would suggest getting an N4 users ditched one off eBay and saving a bit of cash.
No S-OFF for them, mind, which is gash.
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I completely agree that the SoC is technically better but what's the point if thermals aren't good enough to keep it in check. The iPhone 5 with a dual core processor is performing better than the Nexus 4 which shouldn't be the case.
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Well, you could have one before a month so if your in a hurry its a good buy.
Other than that, I wouldn't. Primarily due to the screens HTC uses, but that is personal preference.
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What's wrong with the screen of the one x? Apparently it is as good as the nexus 4 if not better. The only difference being that the one x has more contrast. The only thing i liked about the one x was its amazing screen.
You could wait for a bit and see if the DNA gets released worldwide? The Nexus 4 might be out by then so you can compare
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If you cannot wait it out like me, I would suggest the galaxy note 2 if the size and price is not a concern for you. I got the international version because it receives updates faster that the American carrier crippled versions.
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I seriously gave this a thought and decided the phone is just way too big - I tried putting dummies on my pocket about 10x. It will fit well in your pocket (imo) but since I'm an active dude that's always on the go it's not ideal at all. I need something more mobile that can be tucked in easily. I think I'll set a 5-inch screen as my limit. Beyond that it's an overkill.
Moreso, if the N4 did not exist I would've given the Lumia 920 a try for a change.
I'd say they are on par. But only if the One X+ gets Cyanogenmod 10.
The One X has:
-a better camera
-LTE
-more storage
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-1gb of RAM (WHY HTC?!... WHY?)
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Now that I'm officially on the 3 week wait period, I am wondering if the HTC One X+ would be a better buy. Yes, I lose the latest version of Android for now but I'm sure HTC will upgrade it soon. What I do gain is supposedly a better camera and lots more storage. Not sure about the performance and battery life between the two. If price was not an issue, would you chose the One X+?
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If they were both the same price: HTC. Seeing as the off contract price of the HTC is double that of the Nexus 4: Nexus.
Backordered baby!