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If you believe that it looks like we can add an additional 32 Gig SD card to the Samsung focus prior to initializing it (or at least requiring a hard reset after it is inserted), exactly what is the type of card which we may utilize? Brand and type, or even better, a link to an example would be an ideal answer. TIA.
If this thing really does need to be in the phone before it is set up, or require a hard reset, I may as well have the thing (SD card) in my hot little hand before I walk into an att store and the clerk tries to slip the battery in the phone.
Is a standard Micro SD all that is required?
http://wmpoweruser.com/expandable-storage-confirmed-in-windows-phone-7-required-a-hard-reset/
According to Microsoft it requires a special high-performance sd card so I doubt a normal one will work. If it does work you probably won't like the performance. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/basics/sd-cards-and-my-phone.aspx
i read that they will be availalbe at att store where you purchase your phone.. may cost more than other places but without knowing what type may have to wait til phone is released..
Hmmm...I cannot find a US vendor to purchase one of these:
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/newsView.do?news_id=1119
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Hmmm...I cannot find a US vendor to purchase one of these:
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Expected release date November 8, Carrier AT&T according to Phonearena.
From what I have read, the special part of this is the way the OS creates a RAID to combine internal and external memory. I suspect that a class 6 card will work perfectly.
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With it being extra important that the Micro SDHC card doesn't fail; which brands of flash do you people recommend?
I have had a 8GB class 6 Transcend card in my LG Xenon for almost 2 years. Used it in my GPS, and my daughters DSi, and have added countless movies to it. It's been heavily used and hasn't failed. But when I go to buy 16GB the reviews aren't so high on the Transcend.
* I can't find a reference on PhoneArena to the above mentioned Samsung 30nm-class, High-density NAND Flash for Mobile Devices. Were you referring to the phone it's self being released on Nov 8th?
Has anyone any word of the type of SD card we will need to get?
On the AT&T wireless message board there's a posting of an email from Jeff Bradley, AT&T Senior VP of devices, that states it will support a class 2 or higher microSD card.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/t5/Samsung/Samsung-Focus-usable-SD-card-specs/m-p/2532157
AHHHH....
"Windows Phone uses a special high–performance SD card that works differently than SD cards in other devices.
When your phone is built and first set up, its internal storage and SD card are combined and recognized as one storage system," -Microsoft
I believe this is referring to the 1GB ROM internal storage(for operating system) and 8GB internalSD card flash both being the Samsung 30nm NANDHP Flash
I've read posts around the net about a Samsung rep stating the MicroSD just under the battery cover would be removable. I'm starting to see that as a possibility.
I just received an email back from Samsung Tech Support.
My Question: " SGH-i917 Focus for AT&T, need clarification on MicroSD slot
Are MicroSD flash drives used in the slot under the battery cover capable of being removed with out hard resetting the phone/operating system (Windows Phone 7)?
I'm not referring to the internal 8GB memory in the core of the phone. "
Their Answer: " Thank you for your inquiry. If you are referring to the memory card that you have on the phone, it will not affect the functionality of the phone either the operating system of the phone.
Should you desire additional assistance resolving this, we invite you to call Samsung Customer Support by phone at our toll free number 1-888-987-4357 between the hours 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Monday through Friday, and 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Saturday, Central Standard Time.
We thank you for your continued interest in Samsung products.
Sincerely,
Technical Support
Carissa Joy "
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OK, just got off phone with Samsung tech support, via the phone # above.
She told me that the MicroSD card slot under the battery cover WILL BE REMOVABLE WITHOUT HARD RESET of the phone.
That I can use multiple MicroSD cards with the phone, i.e. adding movies to multiple MicroSD flash drives for a vacation.
AS LONG AS the flash drive is only used in the SGH-i917 Focus and a Computer.
If added to another phone or device it may require reformatting before using in the Focus again.
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That I can use multiple MicroSD cards with the phone, i.e. adding movies to multiple MicroSD flash drives for a vacation.
AS LONG AS the flash drive is only used in the SGH-i917 Focus and a Computer.
If added to another phone or device it may require reformatting before using in the Focus again.
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That is just so contrary to anything and everything we've seen so far that it is hard to credit.
I've already ordered a class 6 16GB card (the Transcend, I hope it fares better than the reviews cited above) but I ordered it for the additional storage, not with any expectation of being able to swap it in and out or use on a computer.
As far as hoping for anything more, it would only be that a class 6 card might perform better than a class 0 or 2 which others in the HD7 forum report are being shipped in the HD7.
Well I doubt the tier one tech support agent knows more then the hands on reviewers online. Based on the comparisons, I think the Focus uses at least class 4 or 6 speed internal memory. Every video and head to head comparison Ive see thinks the Focus is faster the its comp. I did notice updated spec stating 512MB RAM, 1GB Flash Rom (Prior was 1GB ROM), 8GB Flash Storage. I think the Flash ROM is Samsung's Nano Flash chips, the 8GB storage Ive read to be ScanDisk. Does ScanDisk use Samsung flash chips?
A week from today the answers and im sure more questions will start flooding in.
I got the Focus this morning, and I tried a run-of-the-mill class 2 SanDisk 16GB card, and after doing a hard reset, its working like a charm. 22GB of memory for me. Doesn't appear to have degraded my performance, either.
Where do you lookup the available memory? I've inserted a class 4 16GB Lexar card but I don't know where to look to verify the memory.
memory card
what's being told to all att employees is that we are not to sell any memory cards with the phone because they're not supposed to work with any of the ones we carry. I've been afraid to put one in mine because of this but if its been working for ya'll idk what to believe now.
Rep at the att store told me this morning that theyre working on an OTA software update to correct this SD card issue, so hopefully it'll be sometime soon.
Has anyone tried using the 16Gb Kingston Class 6 card in the Focus? Results?
My 16GB class 6 card is working great. 22GB of storage.
Go to settings, about and it will tell you have much storage. I had to hit reset phone under that page for it to work.
I installed a 16GB class 6 card in mine this morning and it was working fine, then after reading of a problem after a soft reset I tried it and sure enough, it forgot everything I'd set up and I had to start over.
http://windowsphonedaily.blogspot.com/2011/04/at-selling-official-microsd-cards-for.html
Original story here at Engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/15/windows-phone-7-certified-microsd-cards-emerge-at-atandt-stores/
FINALLY!
Any sign of 32 GB SD cards though? That's the only type of card not supported atm.
No this is only 8gb so far. Hopefully when they make it official they'll have 16gb and 32gb versions too.
Don"t you just love AT&T's ballooned price of $32 for an 8Gb card??
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Don"t you just love AT&T's ballooned price of $32 for an 8Gb card??
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Yeah thats what I was going to say. I just picked up a 16gig for $25 at Fry's this weekend. Not for a WP7 though mind you.
If I had to justify that $32, then I'd say that Microsoft and AT&T worked with Sandisk on selecting the manufactured cards that met the minimum performance requirements; all other manufactured cards get the regular consumer packaging.
Personally, I'm running a Sandisk class 2 8GB card (vs the Sandisk class 4 8GB card) and I haven't run into any detrimental issues yet. Performance is choppy/laggy once in a while though...
Michael.
Apparently PNY will be offering a 32 gb class 4 WP7 card avaliable at Best Buy. That was speculation on the web, though there is a picture advertising it, but nothing official on the PNY site or Best Buy site...yet.
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Apparently PNY will be offering a 32 gb class 4 WP7 card avaliable at Best Buy. That was speculation on the web, though there is a picture advertising it, but nothing official on the PNY site or Best Buy site...yet.
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Actually I think that one was a mix up on PNY's part. Wasn't that story from like January?
Got mine
Hey, I bought my ATT approved Windows Phone microsd card April 15, 2011 and I'm glad I did. I know it was a little high, but it works and it is reliable. It has not caused any problems. Given past memory card problems, I am not complaining. I didn't mind paying extra for consistant performance and reliabality. By the way, the packaging of this card does have the Windows Phone and round WP7 logo located on the top right hand corner of the packaging and the AT&T logo on the lower right hand corner of the packaging. As of today, 5-25-2011 still no issues and working perfectly.
I note under the AT&T site for accessories for the focus it lists a Class 2 Sandisk Micro SDHC card for 79.99
Adding link:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...TM)+-+Black&q_sku=sku4980540#fbid=mDVcGxoCjhm
under the phone image click on the compatible accessories tab. Around 1/2 way down is a section titled Memory and you can see the card there.
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I note under the AT&T site for accessories for the focus it lists a Class 2 Sandisk Micro SDHC card for 79.99
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80 bucks!?!?!?! How many gigs?
it was 16GB but when I went to a local store they had a 50% off sticker so it was $40 + tax. Sandisk Class 2 16GB, NO windows phone 7 logo just like the pic on the web site though.
hx4700 Killer said:
it was 16GB but when I went to a local store they had a 50% off sticker so it was $40 + tax. Sandisk Class 2 16GB, NO windows phone 7 logo just like the pic on the web site though.
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I called ATT support because I wanted to find out something about the focus. Fake tech issue you can call it
But during the conversation he said microsoft has not certified any cards as of yet. He said they sell cards that work but none yet is officially certified by microsoft. Idk if thats true but I have not seen a sd card with windows logo yet. He also was explaining how the focus was the only phone to have a sd slot.
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I called ATT support because I wanted to find out something about the focus. Fake tech issue you can call it
But during the conversation he said microsoft has not certified any cards as of yet. He said they sell cards that work but none yet is officially certified by microsoft. Idk if thats true but I have not seen a sd card with windows logo yet. He also was explaining how the focus was the only phone to have a sd slot.
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I dont know when if ever MS will put their stamp on a card, but trust me the sandisk cards work.
Yeah I am running the 16GB Class 2 sandisk from the AT&T store and have had zero problems yet and its been 5 days.
Editting to add that it is NOT labeled windows phone 7, it is just a repacked standard Sandisk Class 2 card.
So an AT&T rep told me that if you bought the AT&T WP7 approved SD card that you could pull it out, put it in any PC an read the info on it without issue just like any other SD card.
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Thats a load of crap Tiggah. The card is formatted using the Secure Digital technology. Locking it to the phone and ONLY that phone.
Can you put it in another phone and see data? No. Can you format it? Yes.
Can I put it in my computer and see data? No. (I tried this FYI and nothing)
Can I see data via the sync cable and the two reg hacks? yes.
So just wanted to update this with a few things. After more than a week with teh 16GB Class 2 Sandisk SD card my phone has worked perfectly.
Yesterday I needed to take some data home from work and used the reg hacks to see the Phone in explorer and transfer enough data to leave it about 600MB free.
When I got home I did the same reg hacks and started having trouble copying the data off. On one file the phone would just reboot.
No matter what I did it would reboot and come up and tell me my SD card was corrupt and to format it.
I would just pull the battery and reboot and it was ok again. I was never able to get that one file but was able to get the rest.
So a word of warning... if you want more memory to do what I did, don't complain if you start having problems.
Your taking an unsupported SD card and using it in an unsupported fashion via explorer. Don't cry about it later.
So I just purchased a 64GB MicroSDXC card and put it in my Galaxy S4. It read the card perfectly as a 64GB card out of the box at first. However, I formatted the card through the phone and then it said it was only 32GB. I've tried reformatting again and again on my phone, Windows 7 PC, and Macbook Pro. However, I can't get it to register as a 64GB card again. I've read various posts on this forum and tried all the different formatting utilities, but am still struggling. I'm almost to the point where I'm just going to say that 32GB is enough and deal with not having the full 64GB. Any help would be appreciated. Any idea why this is?
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So I just purchased a 64GB MicroSDXC card and put it in my Galaxy S4. It read the card perfectly as a 64GB card out of the box at first. However, I formatted the card through the phone and then it said it was only 32GB. I've tried reformatting again and again on my phone, Windows 7 PC, and Macbook Pro. However, I can't get it to register as a 64GB card again. I've read various posts on this forum and tried all the different formatting utilities, but am still struggling. I'm almost to the point where I'm just going to say that 32GB is enough and deal with not having the full 64GB. Any help would be appreciated. Any idea why this is?
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Download this FAT32 Formatter and remove the 64GB card from your phone.
Plug the 64GB sdcard into your computer with an adapter or card reader: http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/FAT32format-Download-79375.html
Then format the 64GB card and put it back in your phone and the 64GB sdcard will work fine
and will have approximately 60gb free space on it.
Do NOT format the card using your phone.
If it still shows 32GB after doing the above, you need to return the card and exchange it for one which works properly
Good luck!
I tried that and it's still showing up as 32GB. When I first put it in the phone, it shows some up as 59GB, which means it was detecting the whole card. I've tried formatting as FAT32 and exFAT in both my Mac and Pc. I also browsed forums for awhile and still can't get an answer.
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I tried that and it's still showing up as 32GB. When I first put it in the phone, it shows some up as 59GB, which means it was detecting the whole card. I've tried formatting as FAT32 and exFAT in both my Mac and Pc. I also browsed forums for awhile and still can't get an answer.
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Then the sdcard is defective, hopefully you can still return it and either exchange it or get a refund.
Good luck!
So the card ended up being a fake. I purchased it on eBay and paid a little bit more money for one that said Kingston OEM, but that's not what I received. I contacted the seller and have not heard anything yet, so I made a case with eBay to help take care of it. Long story short, am I better off just buying one in the store or can I get a pretty legitimate, working 64GB microSDXC card for my GS4 online for less than $50?
You should go on to amazon? They have SD cards on there for good prices and reputable Sellers
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alexxxps said:
So the card ended up being a fake. I purchased it on eBay and paid a little bit more money for one that said Kingston OEM, but that's not what I received. I contacted the seller and have not heard anything yet, so I made a case with eBay to help take care of it. Long story short, am I better off just buying one in the store or can I get a pretty legitimate, working 64GB microSDXC card for my GS4 online for less than $50?
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Here is the Amazon.com link for a Sandisk Ultra Class 10 64GB MicroSD card for $49.34 and
it's free shipping and usually amazon does not charge any tax.
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-micro...82169637&sr=1-10&keywords=64+gb+micro+sd+card
Good luck!
SD card unexpectedly removed... The heck does that mean? I didn't take it out nor jar or drop the phone. That just popped up and I didn't have access to the SD card until I rebooted. It's a 128gb samsung evo microsd that was formatted in the X. Anyone else have this issue?
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No issue here. Could be a sim tray or contact issue. 64 gb card forget which brand. Sandisk pro I think.
I'm having the same issue. Love this phone! But this is getting a little irritating
I have not had this issue. Been using the phone for two weeks with a 64 GB Samsung Pro+ card in it since day one.
I just boxed my turd up and sent it to moto today. The bootloader was unlocked but flashed back to stock unrooted, hoping for the best. They gave me a code to get a new one made...it said it will be here Oct 1st.
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Anytime I had this issue previously, it was 100% the card.
The card works fine in my Moto G and my wife's Moto X...
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So, far I've only had it twice in the 3 weeks i had it
Like other folks stated, it has to do with the SD card. If you purchased a SD card from eBay or something generic, you are bound to have this issue. I think it has to do with the flimsiness of the plastic. Borrow a good brand card from someone and give it a try. Chances are issue will be resolved. I had the similar issue which was resolved by purchasing a genuine San Disk card.
It is not necessarily the card. I have a genuine 128GB Sandisk microSDXC (exFAT file system) that's very fast. After no problems for several days, the Pure gave me the message that the card had an incompatible file system and asked if I wanted to format it. I reset several times, got the same message twice, then after that the Pure didn't recognize that a card was even present. I pulled the card (and SIM!?) and reinserted it, and it works fine again. Only catch is that now all the files on the card have that day's date and the time I reinserted the card. Bizarre and very troubling. My plan is to format the card in the phone and reload it from the backup on my hard drive.
I had this problem for a while on my old Samsung GS3, and it turned out to be a firmware issue on the phone that Samsung never addressed. I hope that it's not the same case here.
same problem here. i use my old sd card for two or three weeks. this card works fine. its a 8gb sandisk micro sdhc. now i bought a new 64gb card (SanDisk MicroSDXC Action SC 64GB Extreme 90MBs SDSQXNE-064G-GN6AA; this one: http://amzn.com/B013CP5C02) and got this problem. yesterday the replacement card from amazon arrived but the problem persists.
This is my 3rd moto x (pure) edition, the first 2 I had no problems with using the same card, so I'm kind of assuming it's the tray on this particular phone, but I'm going to try and format the card and see what happens
I have seen this before on multiple "tray" devices... place a couple layers of scotch tape on the back of the card and reinsert it, adds just a bit of pressure to the connection... often enough since tolerences are pretty tight on these things.
I don't know if it's something I'm doing, but this has happened twice now (both with an S7 and now my new S7E).
I bought my S7 with a SanDisk Extreme 64GB Micro SD. After a few months, I kept finding that on taking a photo, it was diverting to internal storage over the SD card. Rebooting sorted it for a while, but it reached a point where it locked itself and could only be read, but not written to. I sent it back to Sandisk and they issued a replacement.
Since then I've now got an S7E (I was part of the N7 scandal). I'm using the replacement Sandisk card I received and today EXACTLY the same thing has happened. The card has become completely locked. I can see the data that was on it from the S7E before it locked up, but I can't write to it. In fact, I can't even format it. If I put it in my PC I can read everything on it but otherwise it's bu**ered.
Where am I going wrong with my S7's and SD cards. Any ideas?
Cheers.
I had the same thing happen. My Sandisk 128gb got corrupted, sent it back for replacement to Sandisk. Then the replacement got effed. Then I bought a Samsung Evo 128gb and it got locked somehow. There are files on it that I can see with a PC, but when in a phone shows as corrupted. Cannot format, cannot do anything with it. I got another 128gb Samsung from Amazon and so far is working. I am worried it will do it again.
Can i ask which version of s7/edge you guys have ? I got the exynos model (n7 scandal as well) I popped in a 128 gb evo card, I'm worried it might do that to me :/
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I had the same thing happen. My Sandisk 128gb got corrupted, sent it back for replacement to Sandisk. Then the replacement got effed. Then I bought a Samsung Evo 128gb and it got locked somehow. There are files on it that I can see with a PC, but when in a phone shows as corrupted. Cannot format, cannot do anything with it. I got another 128gb Samsung from Amazon and so far is working. I am worried it will do it again.
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And me. What I've decided to do is just put music on it (i.e. read only)! That's what it's mostly for for me anyway.
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Can i ask which version of s7/edge you guys have ? I got the exynos model (n7 scandal as well) I popped in a 128 gb evo card, I'm worried it might do that to me :/
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Mine is also Exynos!
Well for me, it started when I had the AT&T 935A S7E with the SanDisk, but I now have the Exynos S7E and it is the one that the Samsung micro SD went bad on. So both models caused issues. I do flash custom roms and things and know the risks, but have never had this happen on any of my S2, S3, S4, S5, or S6 phones.
I got the same issue but I think its the card with the HC card I didnt have problems but with the XC card it got corrupted...
Try a different SDCard manufacturer to SanDisk?
Possible the replacement was from a faulty batch of cards the original was also from
Think I'm using Kingston
Did you read my post? It happened to me with a Samsung too.
Same issue here with Silicon power 64gb.
Might be the whole XC thing.... I have an old 32GB Samsung EVO knocking around. I'm gonna see if I can kill it haha! Otherwise I'm going to have to send the dead one back AGAIN.
I had te same issue on 3 SanDisk cards all SDXC, I concluded to stick with SDXC, got for the extreme versions.
I tried everything to recover or format.
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For those with locked files on the SD, what did you when sending it back?
Probably connext ur micro sd card to the pc and done diagnostics and correct disk sectors.
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Probably connext ur micro sd card to the pc and done diagnostics and correct disk sectors.
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Doesn't work. Already tried that.
There is a command you can use on dos that fixes read write or bad partition errors on sd cards . Check this link
https://appuals.com/best-guide-steps-to-fix-a-corrupt-sd-card-via-chkdsk/
Yes that's what's I've run already on my cards. I have tried everything I can find. I do work in the IT field though I'm not a programmer. The closest I've come to getting somewhere is using an application called testdisk. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk It will help you recover any files lost but that isn't my problem. The one thing I will say is I'm pretty sure all mine have been formatted as eXfat vs fat. I had one go bad when I was messing around with adoptable storage.
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Yes that's what's I've run already on my cards. I have tried everything I can find. I do work in the IT field though I'm not a programmer. The closest I've come to getting somewhere is using an application called testdisk. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk It will help you recover any files lost but that isn't my problem. The one thing I will say is I'm pretty sure all mine have been formatted as eXfat vs fat. I had one go bad when I was messing around with adoptable storage.
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I also used to work in the IT field! I spent about 8 hours last time trying to repair the card the first time around - in the end I just sent it back to Sandisk. You need to request an RAM on their web site.
And yea, no CHKDSK /f, or DISKPART CLEAN will touch it. It's so odd how the phone can render a card useless - yet still be completely readable.
I have an sandisk extreme pro 64Gb sdxc since april. Only use it for photos and downloads, sometimes to listen to music. It still works flaweless *knocks on wood*
Have you guys formated the card in the phone? This cause some really bad performance for me, i formatted it with my pc and SDCardformatter and the performance is better now. But sadly not as good as out of the box. Maybe samsung screw something up while formatting with the phone?
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I have an sandisk extreme pro 64Gb sdxc since april. Only use it for photos and downloads, sometimes to listen to music. It still works flaweless *knocks on wood*
Have you guys formated the card in the phone? This cause some really bad performance for me, i formatted it with my pc and SDCardformatter and the performance is better now. But sadly not as good as out of the box. Maybe samsung screw something up while formatting with the phone?
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When this happens, the card is locked. If I format the card in the phone it claims to have worked - yet nothing has actually been formatted. If I use SDCardformmatter (or Windows, or any of the 3rd party tools) they all fail. "This disk cannot be formatted"!
Yes I have put them in the phone, and my card says corrupted when in the phone, yet works fine (other than being write protected) in my PC. I did request an RMA on my first 128gb SanDisk, then it happened to the replacement, then it happened to the Samsung 128gb, and I am on my 4th 128GB which is a Samsung EVO Select. I thought it might have had something to do with not doing the full wipe of data in TWRP recovery before switching roms. It does say doing full wipe removes encryption as well as wiping data.