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Comparisons between GB and ICS...What is your overall opinion so far?

Hey guys.
Must say for early stages ICS looks pretty sweet. Looking forward to the stable version by Codeworkx and team.
My opinion though is that i still find Gingerbread pretty solid and has all the features i need still. Yes ICS is still in early stages. But there are still few features that i can not leave without just yet. And plus battery life of course is a major issue for me so when kernel sources are released i am sure we shall see an influx of kernels to tackle the problem as it was in the early days of Gingerbread on our gorgeous phones.
Question here is...Do you guys find it worth the jump even on early stages or are you sticking with Gingerbread as it is still stable and you have all the features you can ask for till the gorgeous CM9 gets more stable? Also what would you like from Gingerbread to be on ICS
Thanks

The problem is I've already made the jump much earlier, and it's now unacceptable going back to GB..

Prasad007 said:
The problem is I've already made the jump much earlier, and it's now unacceptable going back to GB..
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I also made the jump but something made me come back to GB..I think it is still because the build is still in early stages and bugs and errors occur..Plus having the voodoo app now by Supercurio kinda makes me hold up a bit longer. Yes i know that is not a good enough reason but also battery life is a major one for me...
What i like to know in the new build of CM9 is it as smooth as people say it is when scrolling?

Neo3000 said:
I also made the jump but something made me come back to GB..I think it is still because the build is still in early stages and bugs and errors occur..Plus having the voodoo app now by Supercurio kinda makes me hold up a bit longer. Yes i know that is not a good enough reason but also battery life is a major one for me...
What i like to know in the new build of CM9 is it as smooth as people say it is when scrolling?
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Well I'm most likely the wrong person to answer that, having come from the original SGS since only the last 2 days. And no, I don't think that it's not a good enough reason to revert to GB for Voodoo LOUDER when I'm actually giving it a fair thought of going back to the SGS1 for Voodoo Sound...

I dont know how to say it but ... ummmm but seriously (not trolling) i love the touch wiz ui

One thing just held me back. The video part. After it gets fixed i'll be transfering to cm9
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Well cyanogenmod 9 is stable enough for my tastes. And once media is fixed I think it's good enough
New multi tasking is sweet. But there are some nice addition here and there like a new voice system which I'm using now. Or do you mean
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anshmiester78900 said:
I dont know how to say it but ... ummmm but seriously (not trolling) i love the touch wiz ui
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Don't worry, there are plenty of people like you and me giggling at the various topics of stuttering paid alternative launchers, and buggy custom AOSP roms, but they are mostly silent.
I think its great they are there, because it can lead to new insights, but so far for me stock + TW + a mild Jkay-theme hit the sweet spot for almost everything this phone can do for me.

Opinion its a leaked test rom and not ICS release who knows what will change .
jje

Ive been trying out the cm9 alpha for a while now and am liking it. Got it setup virtually the same as my KK5 daily.
With cm9 I don't need voodoo louder and my a2dp streaming sounds better.
But.....
I could easily go back to KK5 odexed which I have setup the way I like it. Jkay mods, frozen apps, voodoo louder, etc.
I use go launcher ex, go sms pro and poweramp on both so mostly my user interface is the same.
Found since sgs1 that I like the 3rd party apps more than stock. Thats the beauty of android I guess.
Im ok with both as a daily so far.
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ephraim033 said:
One thing just held me back. The video part. After it gets fixed i'll be transfering to cm9
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+1 I watch YouTube vids on a daily basis lol. They have a done a great job with ICS so far though
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I started using CM9 since the first build, which was very buggy, but its been my daily driver since then and I love it now, stable enough for everyday use (amazing for an alpha) and I already find it better than CM7, I can't go back to GB after updating lol, love the new UI, the only time I ran into a problem was when I wanted to see football highlights last night but can't watch the video =D other that tho I love ICS, can't wait for a full and stable release! Highly recommend it! I found I don't need as many 3rd party apps, don't use widget locker or go launcher or go contacts etc anymore, the only one I use now is go SMS pro.
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eamon0989 said:
I started using CM9 since the first build, which was very buggy, but its been my daily driver since then and I love it now, stable enough for everyday use (amazing for an alpha) and I already find it better than CM7, I can't go back to GB after updating lol, love the new UI, the only time I ran into a problem was when I wanted to see football highlights last night but can't watch the video =D other that tho I love ICS, can't wait for a full and stable release! Highly recommend it! I found I don't need as many 3rd party apps, don't use widget locker or go launcher or go contacts etc anymore, the only one I use now is go SMS pro.
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Same here. ICS is very good and I urge all to give CM9 a try. Of course we cannot mod, theme etc.. at this stage but to be frank there is no need to. Great sensible UI coupled with a very smooth and snappy scrolling and other animations makes it a perfect ROM for a common user. If you are too much into theming, tweaking etc.. stay away from CM9 at the moment until a stable one comes out.
Not much of a battery drain also. Maybe 10% more than stock GB.

ICS KP8
CM9
No thanks no advantage over what i have at present .
Yes to supposed specs when ICS is actually released .
jje

I tested for 2 days the ICS and I must say that the samsung team it's on the good way. ICS will be a wonderful OS to run on SGS2. They still have a lot of bugs to fix, but there are just leaks. We must wait for some official releases.
At the moment you can use ICS just to explore some of the goodies that will be present in the future for our phones. We will have to keep gingerbread for a while
Personally, I want to see the weather on lockscreen fully implemented in the next builds

theres no real ICS for SGS2 right?How could we compare?
we still need to go through 2.3.7 am i right?
No, i find cm7 better than cm9 for now

Personally I don't find ICS the revolutionary change that some people were hyping around. It's an improvement, but not super.
And +1 to the people who mentioned the media part. Once it's fixed I might go to CM9.
And frankly I don't find Trebechet launcher on CM9 smoother than Touchwiz on Gingerboard :/

dzel said:
theres no real ICS for SGS2 right?How could we compare?
we still need to go through 2.3.7 am i right?
No, i find cm7 better than cm9 for now
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I am totally agree with Dzel.
Since ICS alpha(not even beta) version. its no good to compare stable GB version.
Again CM9 is much better than CM7.

I am running cm9 as my daily now as most remaining issues are not so important.
I was before on cm7 with Siyah kernel, and honestly, everything was really running smooth. I do not see any big improvment in ICS, and in that point, I am a litle disapointed.
I will stick to cm9 as ICs is now the developped OS, but I was waiting for more big changes from Google.
A litle bit like diff between OSX 10.3, .4, .5 etc etc. No real big changes.

New to android And Gnote!

Hello,
Just got my phone yesterday and this is my first android phone i am pretty sure my previous phone Windows phone was a lot lot better at most of the things and performance too!!
some times i see lag in scrolling menus,etc! on a Dual core it was hard to believe but anyways i hope it gets better with ICS soon.
So at the moment can anyone tell me where to get good apps (marketplace sucks to find apps)
and some ways to improve battery usage with keeping phone in push mode?
I would highly appericiate if anyone can give me a clue of good ICS custom ROM build there are so many builds and its highly confusing.

There's only one ICS thread for the Note, and it's on Development. About apps for performance and battery, i suggest applying either custom kernel (AbyssNote's or FM) and using SetCpu or Tegrak for overclock and undervolt. Custom launchers might help too, being Go Launcher and ADW two of the most famous. CPUSpy might help detecting any apps that are unlawfuly sucking juice or strange core behavior.
As a last Note, tough (pun intended) your dual core Android will never be as fluid as your 800mhz WP. That's the price we pay for the ability to customize absolutely everything.
Sent from my NotePhone

Amen to that. Viamonte is absolutely right, some of IPhone and window phone users have little idea what a good Android phone can do. Anyway welcome to Android, it's worth the switch.
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Viamonte;21979680
As a last Note said:
why not? Curios.
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CorruptedSanity said:
why not? Curios.
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No idea, but it isn't. No matter how much you customize and alter your Android, you'll always find instances where it doesn't wake, or lag on scrolling, or screen changing, or whatever. After using a Titan, a N9 and a 4S for extended periods of time, I can easily say that's an Android problem, no matter how good the phone or the software is.
Except ICS, I haven't tried it yet...

Yes no android I've ever used was as fluid as an Iphone sadly.
I used a Desire and an HD on 2.0 and 2.1 and now have the Note on 2.3.

Android 4.0 is really stable, my kid plays games with my phone and he got gb almost everytime reboot twice a day, but ICS haven't even once rebooted in a month. And android 4.0 is really fluid, due to hw-acceleration, but still not 100% fluid i think, maybe because i have unofficially ics on i9000
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Update to the latest GB firmware (LA4?), it will resolve all your lag issues.

Android Lag Argument Nullified
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBTqYvJVHCA
I know, I know quad core, BUT people say ICS makes a world of difference on any device 4 cores or 1!!

Viamonte said:
There's only one ICS thread for the Note, and it's on Development. About apps for performance and battery, i suggest applying either custom kernel (AbyssNote's or FM) and using SetCpu or Tegrak for overclock and undervolt. Custom launchers might help too, being Go Launcher and ADW two of the most famous. CPUSpy might help detecting any apps that are unlawfuly sucking juice or strange core behavior.
As a last Note, tough (pun intended) your dual core Android will never be as fluid as your 800mhz WP. That's the price we pay for the ability to customize absolutely everything.
Sent from my NotePhone
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Yes i saw that ICS thread but i was little set back to see it isnt stable yet and being stated as it wont get camera till official ICS rom so i am looking at a no camera rom for at least 2 months for sure so cant dive into ICS as of now.
Your reply helps a lot
Was thinking if i can directly go to install any custom rom although i found more than 9 ROMs on the first page and all looked so same but not being good with technical of android i was thinking if you can suggest me a good rom.
I dont care about the theme and visuals at all i need cutting edge performance and battery life thats the only thing needed/
Do let me know if you have any specific rom in mind.

I guess N7000 and your i9000 both are not the same so probably i cant install ICS in GNote (at least not the stable one right?)

[BENCHMARK] Android evolution from 2.3 to 4.2

Hey people!
This afternoon I got bored so I decided to find myself the best ROM and to learn so Nexus S history. I've tried everything so I'll just go thru from 2.3 to 4.2. Not just performance wise but with design, smoothness and speed. Hope It'll be useful I had fun doing it! Let me clear that I put the ROMs I liked the most in each Android version! Except Jelly Bean 4.1. In every version I'll just start with raw numbers in apps and games then UI, browsing and usability along with design. I'll post Antutu scores in a zip file at the end of the post.
Let's kick off with Gingerbread then. I'm putting Pure Bionic from Team Whiskey helped by Morfic's Trinity kernel at 1,32 ghz.
Antutu score: 4945 (OMG)
Avarage FPS in Modern Combat 4: 47
Avarage FPS in Backstab HD: 52
UI speed and design: Very simple nothing fancy just how I remembered. But the phone is damn responsive. Instant navigating, no lag at all but I just can't feel the smootness of 4.x.
Browser experince: Very fast loading time but laggy scrolling as expected. Without hardware acceleration It's just a half armed goliath.
Overall, Gingerbread (with Bionix) is lighning fast but you have to sacrifice everything fancy. If you're using your phone for gaming and you don't care about fancy UI then I'ts your best choice I assume. Or If you need a phone which reacts instantly that's it. I can't recommend it for every day use.
Let's go on the Android 4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich. Bugless Beast latest release with trinity kernel at 1,32 ghz.
Antutu score: 3634 (maybe because of the GPU, I ran it several times, just could not get more than 3600 pts)
Avarage FPS in Modern Combat 4: 32
Avarage FPS in Backstab HD: 39
UI speed and design: It feel like It's a hybrid between 4.1 and 2.3. I can feel It' smoother but definitely not as fast as GB. Let me clear that none of the roms felt laggy, I'm just compairing them. It looks way more better but.. for the cost of performance.
Browser experince: Finally HW ACC! Way more smoother than GB. Avarage loading time, not a big deal, but very much usable.
4.0 was a great start. New UI and a feel of smoothness, but can't really recommend it for anything. Maybe for someone who wants to play games which doesn't run on 4.1+ (lack of RAM even with high bigmem)
And here we are at Android 4.1 my personal best. I'm trying to stay objective. There'll be 2 ROMs. Pure CM10 and Rascarlo's Rasbeanjelly with alpha12 kernel clocked at 1,32 ghz. I'll take a closer look
CM10 scores:
B]Antutu score:[/B] 4337 (seemed real)
Avarage FPS in Modern Combat 4: 44
Avarage FPS in Backstab HD: 47
Rasbeanjelly:
B]Antutu score:[/B] 4825 (big surprise!)
Avarage FPS in Modern Combat 4: 47
Avarage FPS in Backstab HD: 51
UI speed and design: Much more cleaner design and animations. More smoothness thanks to Project Butter. Google somehow removed those annoying "ics lags".
Browser experince: Similar to ICS but with more "butter". Couple of more features and fixes.
Jelly Bean 4.1 is ready for everday use I really recommend it. Only dissapointment is the fact that we need high bigmem and it means we need to kiss goodbye 720 mkv playback. There is a lot of variation. Trinity kernel for gaming. Air kernel without big mem for multi media and last but not least Marmite for everyday use. If Morfic would implement voodoo in his kernel than our multi media and gaming kernel would be the same. (I'd really want that).
And here comes the latest Android 4.2. I can't really judge it because It's still under development and not ready yet. So keep in mind that. I used jellyshot v0.5 with marmite 7.0.4
B]Antutu score:[/B] 4059 (big surprise!)
Avarage FPS in Modern Combat 4: 35
Avarage FPS in Backstab HD: 42
UI speed and design: More user friendly more features. The lockscreen is a bit wierd. If your phone is locked they still can view your email and calender etc etc.. Love the new things.
UIBrowser experience: Very much similar to JB. Nothing really mentional.
As a said and can't really tell what's up with this yet. I say it's not yet comparable. Everything works as it should. New features new ideas and can be used as daily ROM.
At some points I felt myself dumb even writing it down, but I hope I helped someone to decide which Android version you need. I can't really help in deciding which custom rom to use since there are so many features and combinations! Thanks for reading and feel free to comment and share your thoughts.
PS: Sorry for my english, I'm a bit sleepy these days
Cheers, Zunex!

Very enjoyable review!

thanks mate . pleasure to read :X
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Good reviews... I only spent time with stock GB when I bought my phone for like a month, then I took the plunge and flashed AOSP ICS 4.0.1 and never looked back... I saw ICS as a huge upgrade from GB...
With that, I could never find a good 4.1 ROM that had great performance and battery... But BAKEDbean 6 was the closest thing for me... But still annoying as a daily driver... So much to the point where I was shopping for another phone...
4.2 on the other hand, really woke my phone up again... Currently running Rasbean with Matr1x 24.0 and wow, this phone has much better battery life (even with me always having 4G turned on) and performance is buttery smooth... I won't flash back to 4.1 even tho I miss the added features... This phone is usable again and I don't want to lose that!!
Just thought I'd plugin my experience with the different OS options...
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Thank you guys!
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Good reviews... I only spent time with stock GB when I bought my phone for like a month, then I took the plunge and flashed AOSP ICS 4.0.1 and never looked back... I saw ICS as a huge upgrade from GB...
With that, I could never find a good 4.1 ROM that had great performance and battery... But BAKEDbean 6 was the closest thing for me... But still annoying as a daily driver... So much to the point where I was shopping for another phone...
4.2 on the other hand, really woke my phone up again... Currently running Rasbean with Matr1x 24.0 and wow, this phone has much better battery life (even with me always having 4G turned on) and performance is buttery smooth... I won't flash back to 4.1 even tho I miss the added features... This phone is usable again and I don't want to lose that!!
Just thought I'd plugin my experience with the different OS options...
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Maybe it was only me then. Later I'll give 4.2 a shot again. You're using the ported 4.2 Rasbeanjelly?

Great Review
Great review bro very interesting and realistic, can i make a request to you?
Please give a shot to SlimBean 3.0, Please bro i really want to know your opinion about this ROM.
BTW Great post, i'll give 5stars to it:good:

Zunex95 said:
Thank you guys!
Maybe it was only me then. Later I'll give 4.2 a shot again. You're using the ported 4.2 Rasbeanjelly?
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Yes the one from rusty
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Looks like a lot of time has went into this post. Well done. And great reviews.

_hito_ said:
Great review bro very interesting and realistic, can i make a request to you?
Please give a shot to SlimBean 3.0, Please bro i really want to know your opinion about this ROM.
BTW Great post, i'll give 5stars to it:good:
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I'll do it tomorrow after I got home!

Very good read indeed!
I've just flashed BB6 to try out 4.1.2. Been on CNA before but kind of lost interest in it after lack of support it seems and also phone kind of got sluggish with time. I'm not one to try out experimental builds cause it's my only phone, so I think very hard before deciding! Wish I was more adventurous though as there are some great ROMs out there to play with!

gunner49 said:
Very good read indeed!
I've just flashed BB6 to try out 4.1.2. Been on CNA before but kind of lost interest in it after lack of support it seems and also phone kind of got sluggish with time. I'm not one to try out experimental builds cause it's my only phone, so I think very hard before deciding! Wish I was more adventurous though as there are some great ROMs out there to play with!
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This is my only phone AND i dont have a computer so if i screw this up, im stuck lol... I think the only thing you should watch out for is ports for new OS like the initial builds of ICS and jb (4.1)... 4.2 seems to have some real solid and stable builds out... Only downside to these builds is they're being worked on almost daily and will see frequent updates... The updates aren't for fixing bugs but mostly just adding features/tweaks...
I just flashed Jelly shot 4.2.1... It was just released to the Nexus S 4G today and has been on Nexus S for a bit... Either way bugs are gone and its just about adding tweaks...
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the1dynasty said:
This is my only phone AND i dont have a computer so if i screw this up, im stuck lol... I think the only thing you should watch out for is ports for new OS like the initial builds of ICS and jb (4.1)... 4.2 seems to have some real solid and stable builds out... Only downside to these builds is they're being worked on almost daily and will see frequent updates... The updates aren't for fixing bugs but mostly just adding features/tweaks...
I just flashed Jelly shot 4.2.1... It was just released to the Nexus S 4G today and has been on Nexus S for a bit... Either way bugs are gone and its just about adding tweaks...
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Wow! downloading all the stuff to the phone and not even backing up to a PC - Thumbs up to you pal!

awesome, thanks

gunner49 said:
Wow! downloading all the stuff to the phone and not even backing up to a PC - Thumbs up to you pal!
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Well i typically have the backups on my phone... There's not really goons be a time when you flash a ROM and your custom recovery gets wiped... So long as I have access to that, I'm good for backups
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Why not keep ingerbread?

Hi everyone, as a mod-addicted user i like to flash all kind of roms, even the strangest ones. recently i fuond that our Nexus S is going to die, cause of old hardware and new softwares require lot more RAM and GPUs. I'm currently using a 4.2.2 ROM, and i'm having a very good time, but don't you think that on old GB roms everything was more smooth and fast, with the best performances and apps were faster than now? I know that is because all was old, and NS was developed under that artictecture, but i have a question to you: why do we all want the newest rom, with the newest things that use a lot of battery/ram/gpu, instead of keeping GB roms that were a lot smoother and fast? GB roms are as secure as JB ones, and a lot of apps run well on both OS.
This post is not a critic, and i'm sorry for the mistakes, i'm not english.

its an old system, it looks outdated and browsing experience and overal smoothness is much worse than JB...simple as that. GB has better memory management yes, sometimes my phone struggles with lack of ram on JB, but its still worth over GB for the reasons i stated i think...

Well, i personally like CM7 more than CM10 because it feels to me much more customizable than CM10. The themes look way better (especially Cyanbread) and it is also faster. To conclude, i prefer GB over JB.
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daniel98 said:
Well, i personally like CM7 more than CM10 because it feels to me much more customizable than CM10. The themes look way better (especially Cyanbread) and it is also faster. To conclude, i prefer GB over JB.
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Agreed CM7 was a true upgrade over stock...the ustom lookscreens are just a example but now it seames that CM only has powerwidgets over the stock and a fiew tweaks nothing else, it's to bad really but we kinda have to live with it, thank God we have the best and most balanced single core in the Android world!

Just try a good 4.2.2 rom and you will see the difference...try slim bean build 6 or jellyshot latest build

migueldbr said:
Just try a good 4.2.2 rom and you will see the difference...try slim bean build 6 or jellyshot latest build
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they are really good, but for me the ui sounds and incall sounds are always to low in 4.2 roms, they are considerably louder in roms up to and including 4.1.2, for me CM10, or hellyBean 4.1, or bb6 are enough, i miss the quick toogles and thats abou it, wel maybe the lookscren bold writing

migueldbr said:
its an old system, it looks outdated and browsing experience and overal smoothness is much worse than JB...simple as that. GB has better memory management yes, sometimes my phone struggles with lack of ram on JB, but its still worth over GB for the reasons i stated i think...
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It can be old as you want, but a lot of smartphones are now using it. I prefer JB for the examples you gave, but we are talking about android: you can customize all you want, and gb can become JB with some graphical hacks

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It can be old as you want, but a lot of smartphones are now using it. I prefer JB for the examples you gave, but we are talking about android: you can customize all you want, and gb can become JB with some graphical hacks
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its not the same...there are some really good mods but involve changing systemui and other stuff and sometimes create more problems. Anyway, there are no mods for gb to have JB smoothness. A good solution for JB when it comes to lack of RAM is to use a high bigmem kernel and greenify. Its awesome, does not let apps that you dont need start up unless you manually start them(leaving free ram to apps that matter).
I really see no advantadge in going back to GB imo...You just have to know how to tweak JB to get the most of it.
yeah a lot of devices are using GB, but i bet most of them are not by choice of the user

2.3.x Roms still very good, and loved many of them. When moving to JB there are lots of under the hood changes and many optimizations which make things better. As well as many media improvements. Which allows better apps and better user experience, once I learned all the new features of 4.1 I just couldn't go back to 2.3. I have found that 4.2 Roms preform better than their 4.1 predecessors on my i9020T as well as the many UI improvements. Yes memory is an issue, but I turn on a 1GB swapfile when I'm using memory intensive apps then turn it off when done so I don't wear out storage and it helps greatly.

In the last days of using my Nexus S i got rid of the sudden reboots which i had with all custom roms more or less and with the stock ICS and JB roms too. I think my Nexus was a weak build who barely matched the quality requirements. So i looked out for some older roms and found Oxygen 2.3.7 with great reputation.
Flashed that and: wow. I had a amazingly fast and stable cellphone again. No comparison to any ICS or JB build. I will never go back to a newer rom, as long as stability and quickness are asked.
My regards

Personally, i find 4.1.2 roms very smoother than 4.2.x, and i tried maybe a lot of them. Except some widgets and UI improvements (little), i will continue using 4.1.2 roms with better battery life and the smoothest velocity

Attention Devs - KIND REQUEST - Pure AOSP Rom

To all the devs.
First off, would like to compliment you on the great work you do, and putting in all the tme and effort for developing your roms.
I would please like to request, if you are interested, to develop a PURE AOSP ROM, either kitkat or lollipop, like you get on stock Nexus.
I think a lot of people would be interested in experiencing the stock Nexus look and feel.
I am adding a poll, so for all those interested please vote.

i can't see the point at all .......
you have CM11 (the last nightly is good ) ......and then CM12 .
Cyanogenmod is already "simple" and enought "pure" with lots of interestings things , really not difficult to understand why this rom work...........and very ergonomic !!!
CM is not like others customs with all theirs "frills" like Pie ,omniswitch ,exotics personalizations ......more or less useless for a standard use .
=> with that , i really don't think at all that a dev want to "spend energy" to make a "poor" AOSP pure ... and too many peoples are really not interrested by this sort of rom

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i can't see the point at all .......
you have CM11 (the last nightly is good ) ......and then CM12 .
Cyanogenmod is already "simple" and enought "pure" with lots of interestings things , really not difficult to understand why this rom work...........and very ergonomic !!!
CM is not like others customs with all theirs "frills" like Pie ,omniswitch ,exotics personalizations ......more or less useless for a standard use .
=> with that , i really don't think at all that a dev want to "spend energy" to make a "poor" AOSP pure ... and too many peoples are really not interrested by this sort of rom
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Dont know why but has just always interested me. And Im too uneducated and dont have the resources to build myself. Pure aosp has just look interesting to me.

I second this , i would love to see a pure AOSP rom.

jnvdh06 said:
To all the devs.
First off, would like to compliment you on the great work you do, and putting in all the tme and effort for developing your roms.
I would please like to request, if you are interested, to develop a PURE AOSP ROM, either kitkat or lollipop, like you get on stock Nexus.
I think a lot of people would be interested in experiencing the stock Nexus look and feel.
I am adding a poll, so for all those interested please vote.
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A pure AOSP is a pain in the ass ( u have to pick to many patch from caf), a CAF version will be easy or CAF based too like DU, SLIM

Miccia said:
A pure AOSP is a pain in the ass ( u have to pick to many patch from caf), a CAF version will be easy or CAF based too like DU, SLIM
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personally think it would be worth it though to truly use android at its purest (no bloat, slowdowns or crap). and people who do want some customisations on this rom the xposed framework is available to lollipop now.

To be honest I prefer TW to AOSP am I the only one?

You_KS said:
To be honest I prefer TW to AOSP am I the only one?
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NO. I love twiz too, as it gives me best gaming performance and battery life.

sasank360 said:
NO. I love twiz too, as it gives me best gaming performance and battery life.
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I thought TouchWiz is a "heavy" ROM compared to CM. How does it give performance for gaming?
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TiTAN-O-One said:
I thought TouchWiz is a "heavy" ROM compared to CM. How does it give performance for gaming?
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Well, that is the case atleast on my s4 mini. The thing is i do not always run my s4 mini @ full 1.7 ghz
While gaming on stock rom i set cpu @ 1.3 or 1.2 ghz and plays it just fine. I play subway surfers, dead trigger 2 and asphalt 8.
All run smoothly @ low graphix settings. But on custom roms like cm I have to set cpu @ 1.4-1.5 GHz for same fluidity and
obviously battery drains a little quicker.

sasank360 said:
Well, that is the case atleast on my s4 mini. The thing is i do not always run my s4 mini @ full 1.7 ghz
While gaming on stock rom i set cpu @ 1.3 or 1.2 ghz and plays it just fine. I play subway surfers, dead trigger 2 and asphalt 8.
All run smoothly @ low graphix settings. But on custom roms like cm I have to set cpu @ 1.4-1.5 GHz for same fluidity and
obviously battery drains a little quicker.
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Rly? I played Subway Surfers and Asphalt 8 (lowest graphix) @ 810mhz UV and its rly smooth as heck on RR Lollipop
On stock ROM I noticed battery drain and heating issues compared to cusroms
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