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Angry birds data backup?

Weird question, I know. But here's the deal, just finished booting a new rom to my droid and completely forgot about my beloved angry bird game and wiped everything clean. I had my hopes it would be saved but doesn't seem that way.
So its actually a couple of questions. Will I be able to restore game data from anywhere? Or for future notice, is there a way to back that up so I don't lose it when I update again?
Thanks!
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Titanium backup will backup game data and app settings data for every app you backup. I but, when I moved from stock to Fission the angry birds and Devilry Huntress backups didn't work. Don't know if mine just messed up or it was b/c of the major differences in the ROM. But, Ive been using titanium backup since my rooted D1 days. I still have apps installed that have game saves from back on my D1

Sometimes when using titanium after a rom upgrade to get my settings or saves back I have to wipe the data after it restores the app then select restore data only. I think when it restores an app it does a clean install before trying to restore the data which causes problems for things like that. A perfect example is my blizzard authenticator for my battle.net account. If I use titanium to restore it it tries to give me a new key code to put on my account, which of course doesn't work. So I have to wipe the data through titanium then restore it so my old settings take effect.
Also if you created a backup in clockworkmod than you could restore your previous configuration that way, get your save data back, use titanium to back it up, then reinstall the rom.
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Ah shame, so there's no way to recover now is there?
So much for being on the hunt of 3 stars for everything... Only had 8 missing too.

Here's what I do. Buy Root Explorer from the Market if you haven't already. I'm sure you could do it with other programs, but in my opinion Root Explorer is the single most indispensable app for root users so you might as well get it anyway.
- open root explorer
- grant superuser if needed
- go to data/data/com.rovio.angrybirds/files
- long-press highscores.lua
- copy
- back out (4 backs)
- go to sdcard
- paste
Upon reinstallation of Angry Birds after changing ROMs:
- open Angry Birds and play through a level (i.e., get a score)
- exit Angry Birds
- open root explorer
- go to sdcard
- long-press highscores.lua
- copy
- back out (1 back)
- go to data/data/com.rovio.angrybirds/files
- paste (yes, overwrite)
- long-press highscores.lua
- click permissions
- check read & write on user, group, and others (leave execute unchecked for all)
- click ok
- back all the way out of root explorer
- open Angry Birds and see your high scores all back to normal
So basically, what you're doing is copying the old high scores file and replacing the new one. The key is setting permissions so it reads properly.

hi a search but i dont see com.rovio.angrybirds folder in data/data

phoenix155 said:
hi a search but i dont see com.rovio.angrybirds folder in data/data
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Must be rooted and use root explorer. Regular file manager will not see it.

saved my life, thanks man.

Here's how I back up my highscores and settings, no root needed:
Code:
adb pull /data/data/com.rovio.angrybirds/files/highscores.lua ab_highscores.lua
adb pull /data/data/com.rovio.angrybirds/files/settings.lua ab_settings.lua
adb pull /data/data/com.rovio.angrybirdsseasons/files/highscores.lua abs_highscores.lua
adb pull /data/data/com.rovio.angrybirdsseasons/files/settings.lua abs_settings.lua
if you do adb shell you can change dirs all the way through /data/data/com.rovio.angrybirdsseasons/files/ but ls doesn't work. You have to know the exact filename.

Did u do a backup before flashing Rom? If so u can restore your backup install titanium backup angry birds and then flash back to new rom and restore from titanium
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Karvona u ROCK mate. BEST SOLUTION. THANKS A LOT.

Angry Birds Backup
Maybe you could use my app that will work for any device, any version of Angry Birds, is free and has no add ...
You can find it by going to the market and seach for AngryBirdsBackup all collapsed
My app name is "AngryBirdsBackup Free"
Any feedback is welcome
Pierrick

Does anyone know if similar steps can be taken to transfer data from a Jailbroken iPhone/iPod? I had all my data saved in iOS, so I'm looking to switch the data over to Android.
As far as I can tell, iOS uses a highscore.lua file, so it shouldn't be too complicated. Just figured I would put it out there and see if anyone had found any info on such a topic.
Thanks!

I have found an app "Angrybirds Back2SD", which is easy to use.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.fankewong.angrybirdsbackup2sd
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Hi,
I have an app for doing backup of Angry Birds save games.
Recently I receiveid some reports that for some people was not working.
What I found out was that this happens with Amazon app version of the games.
I'm from Portugal and don't have access to Amazon App Store, so can't do some testing. What I suspect is that the package name is different from Android Market, probably differing free from paid version.
For the versions in Android Market the folders are:
/data/data/com.rovio.angrybirds
/data/data/com.rovio.angrybirdsseasons
/data/data/com.rovio.angrybirdsrio
Can someone tell me the folders (or package name) for the Amazon versions of Angry Birds? Both free and paid.
I have some feedback from users that the paid version worket, so I suspect that only the free versions have different folders.
This can be checked with a file explorer on a rooted device.
I don't know what other way to see the package name.
If someone knows how to find a package name of an app not installed also helps.
Thanks

I just verified that the paths you've posted are exactly same for the ad-free/paid version of the games from Amazon.

Hi,
The folders for Angry Birs from Amazon App Store are:
/data/data/com.rovio.angrybirds
/data/data/com.rovio.angrybirds.free
/data/data/com.rovio.angrybirdsseasons
/data/data/com.rovio.angrybirdsseasons.free
/data/data/com.rovio.angrybirdsrio
/data/data/com.rovio.angrybirdsrio.free (I think there is no free version on Amazon)
If someone want's to use my app here it is:
https://market.android.com/details?id=pt.samp.angryBirdsBackup

sergiopat said:
Hi,
The folders for Angry Birs from Amazon App Store are:
/data/data/com.rovio.angrybirds
/data/data/com.rovio.angrybirds.free
/data/data/com.rovio.angrybirdsseasons
/data/data/com.rovio.angrybirdsseasons.free
/data/data/com.rovio.angrybirdsrio
/data/data/com.rovio.angrybirdsrio.free (I think there is no free version on Amazon)
If someone want's to use my app here it is:
https://market.android.com/details?id=pt.samp.angryBirdsBackup
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how to get your app now it's no longer in the market?
Thanks

MystaMagoo said:
how to get youe app now it's no longer in the market?
Thanks
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Hi,
I sent you a private message with instructions.
Sérgio

[Q] "Hello world, PM EasyView!"? Possible malware caught on screenshot?

I recently took a screenshot that revealed another background window behind a warning message window that says "Hello world, PM EasyView!"
Is this some kind of malware? I tried scanning my phone with Lookout Security and it did not detect anything suspicious.
It all began when all of a sudden my stock 2.2.2 Defy's Task Manager kept showing popup messages telling me that my Hotmail app is running for too long and is consuming memory. This never happened before, ie. Task Manager app showing warning messages about apps running for too long. I suspect a malware infestation. Please advise.
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If you are scared that you are infected by malware the only "safe" thing to do is a full data wipe.
You dont have clockworkmod installed do you? Would be helpfull to have a full copy of the system to analyze it. I think clockworkmod would be a perfekt method to get a copy of the whole system.

sorry i don't know how to solve this. maybe it's time for you to change to some other ROMs...

iRegistry said:
If you are scared that you are infected by malware the only "safe" thing to do is a full data wipe.
You dont have clockworkmod installed do you? Would be helpfull to have a full copy of the system to analyze it. I think clockworkmod would be a perfekt method to get a copy of the whole system.
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Well not exactly scared but I was just wondering about the origin of that "Hello world" message. "PMEasyView"? I wasn't able to find any app or developer by that name among the apps installed on my phone. Just was wondering if anyone here knew thats all. I rooted my phone using SuperOneClick, does it install Clockworkmod too? Or do I have to do it separately?
tomarsenal said:
sorry i don't know how to solve this. maybe it's time for you to change to some other ROMs...
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I did install CM 7.1(2.3.7) but I didn't quite like it..I mean don't get me wrong..CM 7.1 is awesome but the ADW launcher kept crashing on me, something was eating up the battery way to fast and this is weird but I found that the sound quality(headphone and speaker) had actually deteriorated..maybe I didn't get some settings right but anyways I decided to roll back to the Motorola stock 2.2.2 froyo JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-36-1.7 and wait until CM9 was out.
Thanks for the replies guys..really appreciate you taking the time.

Anachronizer said:
CM 7.1 is awesome but the ADW launcher kept crashing on me, something was eating up the battery way to fast and this is weird but I found that the sound quality(headphone and speaker) had actually deteriorated..
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If adw doesn't work for you, you can download another one from the market. I use go launcher and it works without any problems and damn fast. You should give it a try.
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Well it's typical behavior of mallware - I dont have information, that stock task manager will inform you, that some process is running more than x minutes ... try wipe to factory settings and you'll be sure.

Rooting doesn't install Clockworkmod. You only get superuser after rooting. Install 2nd-init and you get Clockworkmod.
You should start using Droidwall and AVG antivirus pro. Try limit the data freedom running in the background.

Thanks for the replies guys. I think I'll wait for CM9. I do have Droidwall installed and I've scanned my phone thoroughly with Lookout Security but nothing was detected. Is it possible that the firmware posted here, the 2.2.2 India one is somehow infected?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093352
I took another screenshot of the supposed malware today, this time without the task manager message. I was able to dismiss the task manager message by pressing the search key somehow.

I have seen exactly that same message today. I thought I have been fairly careful about Malware. However, there was an update that was installed from marketplace today.
I wonder if it is possible to look at an update history.

sailfast said:
I have seen exactly that same message today. I thought I have been fairly careful about Malware. However, there was an update that was installed from marketplace today.
I wonder if it is possible to look at an update history.
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Is the message window in your case appearing under the exact same circumstances as mine? Which ROM are you using? And also if its possible could you do an inventory of the all the apps installed on your phone, then perhaps we can pinpoint the source. Thanks for the reply.

[GAME] Street Fighter IV HD [P500 Optimized] [Lagfree]

First ever REAL FIGHTING GAME FOR OUR OPTIMUS ONE!!
Street Fighter IV
Still not on market.
GAMEPLAY SCREENS (Can make & post a video of my Gameplay as well )
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INSTRUCTIONS
Download apk + SD CARD files + Backup data
Extract the data file and move the folder called "SF_IV_DATA" over to "/sdcard"
Extract the backup data files and copy them to your titanium backup folder that should already be on your SD card providing you have TB installed already.
Install apk (must not run, choose done)!!!!!
Open Titanium Backup --> Backup/Restore --> Find game, then wipe data --> Restore data..
Enjoy game..
PS: Sound On will cause some lag, but with sound off you'll get a smooth gameplay..
Still dont get it?? Read THIS!!
STREET FIGHTER IV SOUNDS MESSING WITH MUSIC PLAYER?
deniso177 said:
put a .nomedia file in the folder, thats what they are for.
for example go on ur pc, create a txt file, and make it so you see the .txt extension, rename the whole file to .nomedia,
then transfer onto the SD card, into the folder where the images/sounds/videos you dont want your player/viewers to see
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DOWNLOAD
1. APK - APK
2. Titanium Backup Gamedata - Backup
3. SD Data - Data
MIRRORS
Complete Set - SET - viv_jen

Oops!! WAREZ!!?? I am gonna get it before the link Is removed !!
Sent from heaven, wandering with Steve Jobs

not warez..
The game isnt on the market, its free on the LG store exclusively..
So these are just links to a free game, saving you trouble of downloading 1.5GB data..

fc for me on cm9 after starting match
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i have tried only on CM7 & Oxygen & it worked great.
Didnt work in Stock froyo maybe coz i couldnt overclock.
Havent tried on ICS though.
Try turning sound off, coz even on those ROMS, sound on causes lag, but without sound its perfect..

Had to try this one. Thank you for sharing

good game

Sound still stutter. Otherwise works great. Thanks!

Link to Titanium Backup is Warez...

deniso177 said:
Link to Titanium Backup is Warez...
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Its to Fool the apk so that it believes data has been downloaded already.
If you skip it, no matter you have data or not, it'll re-download.. :|

vj_dustin said:
Its to Fool the apk so that it believes data has been downloaded already.
If you skip it, no matter you have data or not, it'll re-download.. :|
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Oh wait never mind I thought you uploaded Titanium Backup app itself, I would rename the Link to Titanium Backup Game Files or something like that

lol, nice suggestion.
made the edit..

Just to let you know, the apk file download link isn't working for me because the download slots are full But otherwise, I am so excited to try this game!

just try after sometime..

vj_dustin said:
just try after sometime..
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ell even im getting that error
tried yest an today
,could you if not a bother upload it to mediafire or something?

k, will make mirrors tomorrow

vj_dustin said:
just try after sometime..
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I'm still trying everyday and every like few hours but it still doesn't work And yes it would be great if you could upload it to another site

Hope this mirror helps
the apk,data,and titanium backup are all in this file
http://file.yingyong.so/file/gamedata/YingyongSo_Street_Fighter_IV_HD_v1_0.zip

Direct Dropbox links added..

The direct dropbox link doesn't work for me. In the address bar it says "http://%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A/7BYcd" and it does something similar to the other links. Can anyone help me with this problem?

[APP][BETA]USB Cleaver - USB Password Recovery Tool

Hi there!
Those of you who are familiar with USB Haksaw or USB Switchblade then you probably know what this app is all about. For those who a not familiar GOTO Description just like the USB Switchblade you can select the payload you want to use to shorten the hack time.
This program is very beta! and welcome as much feedback and I can get!
: Description
The goal of the USB Cleaver is to silently recover information from a target Windows 2000 or higher computer, including password hashes, LSA secrets, IP information, etc... beauty lies in the fact that the payload can run silently and without modifying the system or sending network traffic, making it near invisible. It captures all the information to a LOG file stored in your sdcard and can be reviewed at anytime.
: Payloads
Dump System Information
Dump IE Passwords
Dump Chrome Passwords
Dump Firefox Passwords
Dump Wifi Passwords
: Features
Allows you to select the payloads you want to use
:Changes
v0.1.3r1
temporary removed disclaimer screen causing possible F/C on first run(please let me know if you still get fc with this version)
v0.1.3
fix possible bug causing force close on first run
v0.1.2
Fixed issue where starting application with sdcard mount causes F/C
added new BG to show if sd card is available or not
changed main background and Gaussian Blur the line in the middle
v0.1.1
Fixed Disclaimer bug - getting stuck on main intent
v0.1
Initial beta release
: Future Payloads
Dump Network Services
Dump Port Scan
Dump Product Keys
Dump Mail Passwords
Dump Windows Update List
Install Silent VNC
Dump LSA Secrets
xCopy files "documents", "pictures", etc....
More to come....
: How to use
Download and install APK if you havn't done so aready
Accept Disclaimer & Download Payloads
goto "enable / disable payloads" to generate payload file
mount android to PC and run go.bat from root of sdcard (if android 2.1 and before Autorun.inf is generated, click on drive icon and will run payload)
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You rock bro.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

Try to my sgy.

x3maniac said:
this application was not created to encourage hacking.
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The title of the thread ("Hacking for the weak") begs to differ. I understand you want to put a disclaimer, but you probably shouldn't advertise the tool as a hacking tool if it "was not created to encourage hacking"

SifJar said:
The title of the thread ("Hacking for the weak") begs to differ. I understand you want to put a disclaimer, but you probably shouldn't advertise the tool as a hacking tool if it "was not created to encourage hacking"
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lols your right. I will have to change that. what i meant was i don't encourage hacking anything other then your own equipment

not working
when I open the app and accept the declaimer just the background appear when I press menu I can see the exit bottom

juancollado2003 said:
when I open the app and accept the declaimer just the background appear when I press menu I can see the exit bottom
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by going back into the app the 2nd time it will launch. sorry i will get that fixed

Fixed a few issues a few people were having with F/C and getting stuck. thanks for pm'ing me. i should have a few more payloads up later on

I am really confused as to how to use this tool
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TC_Racutt said:
I am really confused as to how to use this tool
Sent from my MikG'd Evo 4g with Swype
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which part are you confused with? maybe i can update the instructions

x3maniac said:
which part are you confused with? maybe i can update the instructions
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I mean, do you have to mount the sd card?
Also what app do you need to run the .bat file?
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Now it's worse
Well now After update I'm getting FC after accept declaimer

TC_Racutt said:
I mean, do you have to mount the sd card?
Also what app do you need to run the .bat file?
Sent from my MikG'd Evo 4g with Swype
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mounting is a linux term of attaching a file system, what i ment was to "turn on usb storage"
a .bat file(batch file) can be ran on any windows / dos system. just double click on go.bat to run the payloads. what this app does is generates this batch file as you select the payloads that you want.
hope this helps

juancollado2003 said:
Well now After update I'm getting FC after accept declaimer
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try uninstalling then re-installing. i had to changed something with SharedPreferences.Editor which gets cleared when you uninstall the application

x3maniac said:
try uninstalling then re-installing. i had to changed something with SharedPreferences.Editor which gets cleared when you uninstall the application
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the same after uninstall and install again

juancollado2003 said:
the same after uninstall and install again
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ok I think I figured it out. i wasn't able to duplicate the problem but found something in my code that might cause it. I just uploaded a new version please uninstall and try that one. Thanks for your help!

x3maniac said:
ok I think I figured it out. i wasn't able to duplicate the problem but found something in my code that might cause it. I just uploaded a new version please uninstall and try that one. Thanks for your help!
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again FC after declaimer accepted

juancollado2003 said:
again FC after declaimer accepted
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sorry about that.. try deleting the folder in your sdcard named "usbcleaver". what android version are you using?

x3maniac said:
sorry about that.. try deleting the folder in your sdcard named "usbcleaver". what android version are you using?
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I uninstalled it, deleted the folder, installed again then the same
I have a glacier miui rom android 2.3.7

juancollado2003 said:
I uninstalled it, deleted the folder, installed again then the same
I have a glacier miui rom android 2.3.7
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OK try it again i just uploaded a possible fix.. is there anyway you can get me a dalvikvm log?

[Question for MM users] Uninstalling Facebook makes your Auto rotation stop working?

*** ONLY DO THIS FOR TESTING PURPOSE ***​
Those who have got the MM update, could you please check whether uninstalling Facebook app via Titanium makes your auto rotation to stop working? Some say it doesn't, some say it does.
I took a screen record while uninstalling it, make sure you are doing the exact same steps. For the record, uninstalling ONLY the apk is enough to mess it up, I still went on and removed the other Facebook system stuffs out of frustration.
Please comment.

I always uninstall Facebook & "company" and other trash again, and never had problems with rotation on kitkat , lollipop and marshmallow.

ithehappy said:
*** ONLY DO THIS FOR TESTING PURPOSE ***​
Those who have got the MM update, could you please check whether uninstalling Facebook app via Titanium makes your auto rotation to stop working? Some say it doesn't, some say it does.
I took a screen record while uninstalling it, make sure you are doing the exact same steps. For the record, uninstalling ONLY the apk is enough to mess it up, I still went on and removed the other Facebook system stuffs out of frustration.
Please comment.
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Have you solve it?

It seems that is true, and after flashing the stock rom and uninstalling lot of bloatware (except all the facebook stuff) auto rotation works now.

HDxDaniel said:
Have you solve it?
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Yes, by re-flashing the stock ROM[emoji23]And then not touching those Facebook related craps.
PS:
@HDxDaniel
Could you tell me whether you have uninstalled any of these apps? Because I don't use these! S Voice isn't listed as it's a system app, I don't use that either.
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ithehappy said:
Yes, by re-flashing the stock ROM[emoji23]And then not touching those Facebook related craps.
PS:
@HDxDaniel
Could you tell me whether you have uninstalled any of these apps? Because I don't use these! S Voice isn't listed as it's a system app, I don't use that either.
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I uninstalled most of those apps except Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram, Play newsletter and maybe another app too.

I noticed one thing today, if you use an app like System App Remover, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp&hl=en
, then uninstall Facebook and other craps, then the rotation works normally. So it could be Titanium doing something crazy here, don't know!

I have the same problem (or I think so), I removed Facebook and Instagram applications with titanium backup and noticed my screen can't auto-rotate now
Anyone can upload the libgnustl_shared.so file ? I don't feel like flashing the whole system file again...
Thanks

tama_92 said:
I have the same problem (or I think so), I removed Facebook and Instagram applications with titanium backup and noticed my screen can't auto-rotate now
Anyone can upload the libgnustl_shared.so file ? I don't feel like flashing the whole system file again...
Thanks
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After flashing the zip from the first post of this thread, the screen rotation is working again, seems like removing Samsung hub with titanium backup messed things

It looks like only reflashing the stock FW will help
I had the same problem tried every possible solution in this forums none worked
Maybe titanium or i flashed ios emoji for google keyboard!! But that never happened when was on Lollipop!! Now back to Odin
lol

tama_92 said:
I have the same problem (or I think so), I removed Facebook and Instagram applications with titanium backup and noticed my screen can't auto-rotate now
Anyone can upload the libgnustl_shared.so file ? I don't feel like flashing the whole system file again...
Thanks
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Here you are my friend:
http://www27.zippyshare.com/v/QruHxan5/file.html

@yucelo I've already found the file in another thread, but thanks anyway

This happened to me multiple times on Lollipop.
Use a file manager with root capabilities and uninstall the .apk files manually
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SAR system app remover done the deal

yucelo said:
Here you are my friend:
http://www27.zippyshare.com/v/QruHxan5/file.html
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Somebody, give this man a medal! Saved my butt reflashing ROM again. Just copy to system/lib change permission to rw-r--r-- and reboot. You think it's caused by Titanium Backup? In that case? We should notify them.

yeah..... I got this too 2 days ago.
I uninstall some bloatware, including facebook with titanium backup.
then I realize that screen rotation doent work anymore.
I check the gyro, gravity, accel sensor. all works fine, but screen rotation wont work.
So I restore my backup ROM, and everything is fine again.
and yeah.... I just tried uninstalling facebook again, but this time I use System App Remover https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp&hl=en
auto rotation is still works.

Same here... I've done some testing removing bloatware and it's Titanium Backup's fault... I had to reflash the custom rom I'm using several times to reach this conclusion...

I had the same problem, & for whatever reason that version of the file failed to work for me. I had success with this one, following the same steps. https://www.4shared.com/file/ivpHIjBNce/libgnustl_shared.html

pfdeadpool said:
I had the same problem, & for whatever reason that version of the file failed to work for me. I had success with this one, following the same steps. https://www.4shared.com/file/ivpHIjBNce/libgnustl_shared.html
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Out of curiosity, where did you get that file from?
I've just made a flashable zip with my working libgnustl_shared.so so I can replicate the issue later on and see if this solution works for me...

I downloaded this rom, extracted the zip, & copy pasted libgnustl to system/lib & changed permissions. Hopefully the individual upload will save someone else 1.49gb
The other version of libgnustl that was posted here didn't work for me, I tried it 3-4 times. My phone is a N910T.
It was a happy accident- I was planning on following someone else's success of extracting system.img.ext4 & flashing that file with skip soft, or more likely reverting to stock before I thought 'what if...'
A big thank you to everyone who shared the info to finding a solution