I've been using setcpu for a while now, but have never bothered to mess with the advanced settings. Searching around I have only found out what most of this stuff means, but I'm missing some still. I thought I would share my findings. I have included SetCPU's descriptions (in italics) supplemented with my findings.
Governor choices (I'm using king's bfs kernel #1 on fresh 3.1.0.2) -
Ondemand - Uses the highest frequency when tasks are started, decreases step by step
Conservative - Increases frequency step by step, decreases instantly
Interactive - I couldn't figure this one out... any help?
Powersave - Uses the lowest possible clock speed to complete its tasks
Userspace - Manual controll of the frequency
Performance - Always uses the highest clock speed
Advanced Settings -
Sampling Rate - An interval (in microseconds) at which the governor will poll for updates. When this happens, the governor will decide whether to scale the CPU up or down. It uses such little power that it is better at lower values when using profiles such as screen off.
Up Threshold (1%-100%) - Defines a percentage from 1% to 100%. When the CPU load reaches this point, the governor will scale the CPU up. When using low min values (245), this happens instantly, using higher values (768) it overclocks less often. With Conservative lower values are better because it slowly increases your clock speed to what you need, with Ondemand, higher is better, as it overclocks less often.
Down Threshold (1%-100%) (conservative only) - Defines a percentage from 1% to 100%. When the CPU load reaches this point, the governor will scale the CPU down. Higher values will offer more aggressive battery saving, lowering the clock speed quicker.
Ignore Nice Load (0/1) - If this value is "1," the system will ignore "Nice" processes when deciding to scale up or down. I need a little more info for this one, what exactly is a nice process? DO NOT GOOGLE 'NICE LOAD' ESPECIALLY AT WORK OR AROUND CHILDREN/WIFE
Freq Step (0%-100%) (conservative only) - Defines how much (as a percentage of the maximum CPU speed) the conservative governor will increase the CPU speed by each time the CPU load reaches the Up Threshold. Increased the value slightly to be able to overclock quicker, but not to high to avoid unnecessary overclocking.
Powersave Bias (0-1000) (ondemand only) - Setting this value higher will "bias" the governor toward lower frequencies. This is a percentage, where 1000 is 100%, 100 is 10%, and 0 is 0%. The ondemand governor will scale the CPU to a frequency lower than its "target" speed according to this value. Gives ondemand some more battery saving potential. High values give worse performance than conservative with equal or worse battery saving. If you want the performance of ondemand with some more battery use values under 200.
I hope this info was helpful to someone, and here are my setcpu settings. I have attempted to target 150-175ms for short and 350-400ms for long benchmarks to match my performance governor and save battery at the same time.
With ondemand I get about 170ms short and 380ms long. I use 90 for up and 50 for powersave. The performance is slightly better than the default settings, and the battery is about equal. I might play with this more, as it should hit the same values as performance with better battery life.
In conservative long benchmarks in setcpu are actually faster than short ones because it takes setcpu time to adjust the speed. Run a short one immediately after a long one to see its actual value. Up changed 75 and down to 25, not much of a change, but drastic performance increase with no battery change. I also increased freq step to 10% to obtain higher speeds faster. Getting the same 170ms short and 370ms long.
My Settings
Conservative 245-1190
Temp > 50C - 768 conservative
Screen Off - 499 ondemand (allows for the screen to be unlocked faster, especially useful with incoming calls)
Charging/Full - 1190 performance
Battery < 15% - 652 conservative
Sampling - 200000
Up Thresh - 75
Down Thresh -25
Ignore Nice - 0
Freq - 10
More DFS Info
SetCPU Info
davebu said:
DO NOT GOOGLE 'NICE LOAD' ESPECIALLY AT WORK OR AROUND CHILDREN/WIFE
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HondaCop said:
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Yeah. I almost spit out my Vanilla Coke on that one. LOL
Anytime have any info about nice load or anything to add?
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G.
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I missed this yesterday... Post of the day in my opinion
Thanks dave...good write up
This is what I found about the interactive governor in github:
cpufreq: interactive: New 'interactive' governor
New interactive governor.
This governor is designed for latency sensitive workloads, UI interaction for
example.
Advantages:
+ significantly more responsive to ramp cpu up when required (UI interaction)
+ more consistent ramping, existing governors do their cpu load sampling in a
workqueue context, the 'interactive' governor does this in a timer context, which
gives more consistent cpu load sampling.
+ higher priority for cpu frequency increase, rt_workqueue is used for scaling
up, giving the remaining tasks the cpu performance benefit, unlike existing
governors which schedule rampup work to occur after your performance starved
tasks have completed.
Existing governors sample cpu load at a particular rate, typically
every X ms. Which can lead to under powering UI threads when the user has
interacted with an idle system until the next sample period happns.
The 'interactive' governor has a different approach. Instead of sampling the cpu
at a specified rate, the governor will scale the cpu frequency up when coming
out of idle. When the cpu comes out of idle, a timer is configured to fire
within 1-2 ticks. If the cpu is 100% busy from exiting idle to when the timer
fires then we assume the cpu is underpowered and ramp to MAX speed.
If the cpu was not 100% busy, then the governor evaluates the cpu load over the
last 'min_sample_rate' (default 50000 uS) to determine the cpu speed to ramp down
to.
There is only one tuneable for this governor:
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/interactive/min_sample_rate:
The minimum ammount of time to spend at the current frequency before
ramping down. This is to ensure that the governor has seen enough
historic cpu load data to determine the appropriate workload.
Default is 5000 uS.
Also, in the original application thread as explained by the dev, "nice" processes are:
2. Nice processes are used by the IO scheduler to designate a low-priority process. Ignore nice load basically tells ondemand to disregard processes with higher nice values.
Good topic. You covered the bases pretty well. Glad someone finally put this together as it is useful to know. Now prepare for 1000 threads in the next month asking for the information you just posted.
hey question. i went and purchased SetCPU and attempted to follow your instruction. problem is, whenever SetCPU tries to gain super user permission, it says "no root access granted. Are applications allowed root access?" i dunno what to do. can someone advise me?
Umm, is your phone rooted?
Sent from the void...
Yessir. Since day 2 ^_^ (plus its in my sig)
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SilverStone641 said:
Yessir. Since day 2 ^_^ (plus its in my sig)
Sent from my Evo using Tapatalk
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Try uninstalling and reinstalling it.
Then double check all of your superuser settings.
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Yessir. Since day 2 ^_^ (plus its in my sig)
Sent from my Evo using Tapatalk
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Sorry, using the xda app which doesn't display the sig.
Sent from the void...
So, as far as speed/responsiveness of governors goes:
Fastest ------------------------------------------------------> Slowest
Performance ------> ondemand ------> Interactive? ------> Conservative
Poor battery consumption --------------------> Best battery consumption
This thread is exactly what i was looking for, thanks for the detailed explanation of the what and why.
Will try it out this week with Fresh 3.1 and KK#8.
this thread helped a lot, i was just in setCPU messing around with things, now i can use this thread to help get what i want. i bookmark'd the hell out of this thread
Thanks...OP...hopefully people will read it first...try things..then ask questions...
I am still working to see how to get the best battery life from cm6 and snap..
Thanks for the helpful post!
I experienced a "nice load" when I unboxed my EVO. Anyway the only setting I use is:
Screen off: 245/128 on demand.
Works for me. And thanks for this helpful post to help us understand all that technical mumbo jumbo.
So I got a rooted Vanilla install of the latest Sprint OTA Froyo build on my EVO. (the 3.29.651.5 build).
I purchased the latest version of SetCPU (2.03) last night and used the autodetect method for the CPU governor.
I notice on my EVO that I only have these 3 options:
Scaling:
ondemand, userspace and performance....
Is this normal to not have the conservative setting since I have the defacto kernel with a vanilla rom?
Thanks
Sheldon
Okay, so I figured it out, my default kernel does not have these other options, oh well......
Nice app though, so far its working really well.
Interactive - Instead of sampling the cpu at a specified rate, the governor will scale the cpu frequency up when coming out of idle. When the cpu comes out of idle, a timer is configured to fire within 1-2 ticks. If the cpu is 100% busy from exiting idle to when the timer fires then we assume the cpu is underpowered and ramp to MAX speed.
Smartass- Is an improved version of interactive governor
Ondemand – Available in most kernels, and the default governor in most kernels. When the CPU load reaches a certain point (see “up threshold” in Advanced Settings), ondemand will rapidly scale the CPU up to meet demand, then gradually scale the CPU down when it isn't needed.
Conservative– Available in some kernels. It is similar to the ondemand governor, but will scale the CPU up more gradually to better fit demand. Conservative provides a less responsive experience than ondemand, but can save battery.
Performance – Available in most kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the “max” set value at all times. This is a bit more efficient than simply setting “max” and “min” to the same value and using ondemand because the system will not waste resources scanning for CPU load.
Powersave – Available in some kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the “min” set value at all times.
Userspace– A method for controlling the CPU speed that isn't currently used by SetCPU. For best results, do not use the userspace governor.
Hope those will able to help newbies to SetCPU or No Frills CPU.
Credit to LeeDroid for the infos
I believe Interactive is the most responsive kernel out there. Faster than ondemand. So it'll technically use more power when you are using the phone.
HOWEVER, isn't the best feature of Smartass the ability to cap frequencies when the screen is OFF? This essentially negates the need for using SetCPU to limit frequenceis when screen is off. Yes it's an improved version of interactive, but it should be just as responsive, but with these set limits in. I'm just not sure what the specific rules are. I used it for my Moto Milestone, but I'm unsure of what the rules are here.
window7 said:
Interactive - Instead of sampling the cpu at a specified rate, the governor will scale the cpu frequency up when coming out of idle. When the cpu comes out of idle, a timer is configured to fire within 1-2 ticks. If the cpu is 100% busy from exiting idle to when the timer fires then we assume the cpu is underpowered and ramp to MAX speed.
Smartass - Is an improved version of interactive governor
Ondemand – Available in most kernels, and the default governor in most kernels. When the CPU load reaches a certain point (see “up threshold” in Advanced Settings), ondemand will rapidly scale the CPU up to meet demand, then gradually scale the CPU down when it isn't needed.
Conservative – Available in some kernels. It is similar to the ondemand governor, but will scale the CPU up more gradually to better fit demand. Conservative provides a less responsive experience than ondemand, but can save battery.
Performance – Available in most kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the “max” set value at all times. This is a bit more efficient than simply setting “max” and “min” to the same value and using ondemand because the system will not waste resources scanning for CPU load.
Powersave – Available in some kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the “min” set value at all times.
Userspace – A method for controlling the CPU speed that isn't currently used by SetCPU. For best results, do not use the userspace governor.
Hope those will able to help newbies to SetCPU or No Frills CPU.
And do correct me if I am wrong. Thank you
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You should credit the source you copy and pasted that from. Or even better post the link.
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dmo580 said:
I believe Interactive is the most responsive kernel out there. Faster than ondemand. So it'll technically use more power when you are using the phone.
HOWEVER, isn't the best feature of Smartass the ability to cap frequencies when the screen is OFF? This essentially negates the need for using SetCPU to limit frequenceis when screen is off. Yes it's an improved version of interactive, but it should be just as responsive, but with these set limits in. I'm just not sure what the specific rules are. I used it for my Moto Milestone, but I'm unsure of what the rules are here.
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SMARTASS is a rewrite of the INTERACTIVE governor, and it moves the CPU up/down depending on whether the phone is idle/locked/ ... etc.
But some problems that I experience with SMARTASS is that my music playback sometimes stutters(?). So I'm just sticking with INTERACTIVE.
http://setcpu.com
edit:/#7 didnt seem to work right?
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You should credit the source you copy and pasted that from. Or even better post the link.
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Thanks for telling me that. I had changed it
However, I cant post the link as I cannot find the source I find it.
I only know that LeeDroid provided me the details
window7 said:
Thanks for telling me that. I had changed it
However, I cant post the link as I cannot find the source I find it.
I only know that LeeDroid provided me the details
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I believe it comes from SetCPU's website.
Http://www.setcpu.com
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olorin86 said:
SMARTASS is a rewrite of the INTERACTIVE governor, and it moves the CPU up/down depending on whether the phone is idle/locked/ ... etc.
But some problems that I experience with SMARTASS is that my music playback sometimes stutters(?). So I'm just sticking with INTERACTIVE.
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Is this because your screen is off? Yeah, smartass has some issues when the screen is off. Main issue is wakeup and whatever else your phone has to do. I know the Netarchy kernel with smartass just got a revision lately to deal with more wake issues.
But in terms of when your screen is on smartass should function exactly like interactive. So that's why I said smartass is essentially interactive, but with those preset rules regarding screen off that you would otherwise have to create using SetCPU.
The reason you might have worse battery might be because during screen off, your phone is struggling to do work at a slower pace (ideally you shouldn't have to do much, but maybe some people's phones have a lot of stuff running in the background), and so the more time you spent with the CPU active ends up eating more power.
This is one of the arguments about Intel Atom vs. Intel i3. Both idle at the same wattage, but the i3 uses massively more power in load. Probably 2x-3x more. However, given that the i3 is like so FAST, it gets say an encoding job done in like 1/4 the time. Your overall power (Watts * time) used is actually less with the faster CPU. This might apply with the Smartass governor. If your CPU is struggling and maxing out at its cap for a long time because its not fast enough when the screen is off, then perhaps this can be an issue. Just a thought. This is why I think the max_freq for sleep should probably be set around 500-600mhz instead of like 200mhz.
But once again I'm not sure what the governor is set at right now. If someone knows, please do tel
I wanted to know what the different governors do, rather than filling dev's threads up with questions I thought i would have a look around and do this for others who like me wanted to know what they do:
1: Interactive
The CPUfreq governor "interactive" is designed for low latency, interactive workloads. This governor sets the CPU speed depending on usage, similar to "ondemand" and "conservative" governors. However there is no polling, or 'sample_rate' required to scale the CPU up. Sampling CPU load every X ms can lead to under powering the CPU for X ms, leading to dropped framerate, stuttering UI etc..Scaling the CPU up is done when coming out of idle, and like "ondemand" scaling up will always go to MAX, then step down based off of cpu load.
There is only one tuneable value for this governor: min_sample_time: The ammount of time the CPU must spend (in uS) at the current frequency before scaling DOWN. This is done to
more accurately determine the cpu workload and the best speed for that workload. The default is 50ms.
2:Min Max
well this governor makes use of only min & maximum frequency based on workload... no intermediate frequencies are used.
3:Smartass
(Quoted from another author http://www.ziggy471.com/2010/11/07/s...-governor-info ) - "is based on the concept of the interactive governor.
I have always agreed that in theory the way interactive works – by taking over the idle loop – is very attractive. I have never managed to tweak it so it would behave decently in real life. Smartass is a complete rewrite of the code plus more. I think its a success. Performance is on par with the “old” minmax and I think smartass is a bit more responsive. Battery life is hard to quantify precisely but it does spend much more time at the lower frequencies.
Smartass will also cap the max frequency when sleeping to 352Mhz (or if your min frequency is higher than 352 – why?! – it will cap it to your min frequency). Lets take for example the 528/176 kernel, it will sleep at 352/176. No need for sleep profiles any more!"
4:Scary
A new governor wrote based on conservative with some smartass features, it scales accordingly to conservatives laws. So it will start from the bottom, take a load sample, if it's above the upthreshold, ramp up only one speed at a time, and ramp down one at a time. It will automatically cap the off screen speeds to 245Mhz, and if your min freq is higher than 245mhz, it will reset the min to 120mhz while screen is off and restore it upon screen awakening, and still scale accordingly to conservatives laws. So it spends most of its time at lower frequencies. The goal of this is to get the best battery life with decent performance. It will give the same performance as conservative right now, it will get tweaked over time.
I assume performance, conservative, powersave and ondemand are self explanatory,
Userspace - finding conflicting info, so if a dev wants to help me out ??
All this info was found on the web in various places, where possible I have quoted where from. If people would like me to link back to them please let me know I will add.
This is purely to help people understand the governors a little without filling dev threads
Can people also leave user feedback on the governors they have been using to give us a reference point to help us all
if it helped hit thanks
Dooms Kernel : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226826
Schedulers post 3
Nice one Chiefy, good to know we have a thread for quick reference when needing it.
Schedulers
NOOP scheduler
The NOOP scheduler inserts all incoming I/O requests into a simple, unordered
FIFO queue and implements request merging.
The scheduler assumes I/O performance optimization will be handled at some
other layer of the I/O hierarchy; e.g., at the block device; by an intelligent
HBA such as a Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) RAID controller or by an externally
attached controller such as a storage subsystem accessed through a
switched Storage Area Network).
NOOP scheduler is best used with solid state devices such as flash memory
or in general with devices that do not depend on mechanical movement to
access data (meaning typical "hard disk" drive technology consisting of seek
time primarily, plus rotational latency). Such non-mechanical devices do not
require re-ordering of multiple I/O requests, a technique that groups together
I/O requests that are physically close together on the disk, thereby reducing
average seek time and the variability of I/O service time.
Deadline
The goal of the Deadline scheduler is to attempt to guarantee a start service time for a request[1]. It does that by imposing a deadline on all I/O operations to prevent starvation of requests. It also maintains two deadline queues, in addition to the sorted queues (both read and write). Deadline queues are basically sorted by their deadline (the expiration time), while the sorted queues are sorted by the sector number.
Before serving the next request, the Deadline scheduler decides which queue to use. Read queues are given a higher priority, because processes usually block on read operations. Next, the Deadline scheduler checks if the first request in the deadline queue has expired. Otherwise, the scheduler serves a batch of requests from the sorted queue. In both cases, the scheduler also serves a batch of requests following the chosen request in the sorted queue.
By default, read requests have an expiration time of 500 ms, write requests expire in 5 seconds.
Anticipatory
Anticipatory scheduling is an algorithm for scheduling hard disk input/output. It seeks to increase the efficiency of disk utilization by "anticipating" synchronous read operations.
"Deceptive idleness" is a situation where a process appears to be finished reading from the disk when it is actually processing data in preparation of the next read operation. This will cause a normal work-conserving I/O scheduler to switch to servicing I/O from an unrelated process. This situation is detrimental to the throughput of synchronous reads, as it degenerates into a seeking workload.[1] Anticipatory scheduling overcomes deceptive idleness by pausing for a short time (a few milliseconds) after a read operation in anticipation of another close-by read requests.[2]
Anticipatory scheduling yields significant improvements in disk utilization for some workloads.[3] In some situations the Apache web server may achieve up to 71% more throughput from using anticipatory scheduling.[4]
The Linux anticipatory scheduler may reduce performance on disks using TCQ, high performance disks, and hardware RAID arrays.[5] An anticipatory scheduler (AS) was the default Linux kernel scheduler between 2.6.0 and 2.6.18, by which time it was replaced by the CFQ scheduler.
BFQ
The Brain **** Scheduler (or BFS) is a task scheduler designed for the Linux kernel in August of 2009 as an alternative to the Completely Fair Scheduler and the O(1) scheduler.[2] BFS was created by veteran kernel programmer Con Kolivas[3].
The objective of BFS, compared to other schedulers, was to provide a scheduler with a simpler algorithm, that did not require adjustment of heuristics or tuning parameters to tailor performance to a specific type of computation workload. The BFS author asserted that these tunable parameters were difficult for the average user to understand, especially in terms of interactions of multiple parameters with each other, and claimed that the use of such tuning parameters could often result in improved performance in a specific targeted type of computation, at the cost of worse performance in the general case.[4] BFS has been reported to improve responsiveness on light-NUMA (non-uniform memory access) Linux mobile devices and desktop computers with fewer than 16 cores.
CFQ
CFQ, also known as "Completely Fair Queuing", is an I/O scheduler for the Linux kernel which was written in 2003 by Jens Axboe.
CFQ works by placing synchronous requests submitted by processes into a number of per-process queues and then allocating timeslices for each of the queues to access the disk. The length of the time slice and the number of requests a queue is allowed to submit depends on the IO priority of the given process. Asynchronous requests for all processes are batched together in fewer queues, one per priority. While CFQ does not do explicit anticipatory IO scheduling, it achieves the same effect of having good aggregate throughput for the system as a whole, by allowing a process queue to idle at the end of synchronous IO thereby "anticipating" further close IO from that process. It can be considered a natural extension of granting IO time slices to a process.
I am testing scary at the mo on stock gb so will edit my post tomorrow bro.
over the next week I will use scary, smartass, ondemand, conservative and interactive and report my findings back here
please all get involved and report back your findings
Can people also post their voltage findings with Dooms new kernel
Scary Report
Phone been on 9h 39m, medium usage, clocking set 128-1113, voltages changed as above post,phone very responsive and no lags, battery remaining 39%, AnTuTu benchmark 2755 linpack 39.
Interactive Report
128-1132 up time 6h 25mins, phone responsive no lag, medium usage 36% left, AnTuTu benchmark 2502 linpack 36 this governor doesnt seem to help battery level very much
6h 25mins and only 36% left? OMG! that's a battery drain!
Well, Quite frankly I went through the governors, Which do you think is better? Can you describe each governor in one word?
I'm on wolf rom with fps uncapped (3.x if i remember well) i haven't upgraded due to the issues pertaining to the users.
Can you just suggest me a good governor based on your experience? Can I get 24 hours of uptime with custom kernels or i still have to wait? ( I know I love OC that we had on 2.2 but looking at the battery drain I'm cautious whether or not to flash the custom kernels )
Thanks for your guide. It's epic!
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6h 25mins and only 36% left? OMG! that's a battery drain!
Well, Quite frankly I went through the governors, Which do you think is better? Can you describe each governor in one word?
I'm on wolf rom with fps uncapped (3.x if i remember well) i haven't upgraded due to the issues pertaining to the users.
Can you just suggest me a good governor based on your experience? Can I get 24 hours of uptime with custom kernels or i still have to wait? ( I know I love OC that we had on 2.2 but looking at the battery drain I'm cautious whether or not to flash the custom kernels )
Thanks for your guide. It's epic!
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so far the best governors that i have used have been Smartass and Scary but i will continue testing the governors and reporting back. Smartass was working great with no o/c for me, i will add this to this test. tomorrow i will test Scary with no o/c
Ok, my conclusions of using the scary gov on my modded stock gb is probally the best my phone has been, nearly all frequencies are being used, had to use min 192 and max 1190 as had a few screen off reboots but once using those settings my no more reboots. Battery life is the best i have had on custom kernel with flat line overnight, 3% loss, with wifi off and hourly updates of email, deep sleep working perfect as it should.
Overall, this is my personal favorite so far, just to add also this is using...
http://doomlord.sylvester20007.com/x10/x10_gb/dk/v02/dk-v02-X-modfxp_xrec.zip
I have not started using v03 of Dooms new kernel because of the good results with v02x.
Samrtass Report
Running Smartass governor uptime 5hours 1minute 128-1132cpu, medium usage, twitter, facebook two calls, brightness and 50%, AnTuTu Benchmark 1569 linpack 31 ( second linpac got WLOD ) battery 69%
Edit 10hours up time 42% battery left
As you can see smartass is a battery friend but performance suffers, although for my usage i find that this is the best governor for me at the minute
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MIN/MAX Report
I tried to use this governor but it kept causing random reboots so gave up
keep going!!
I know this is missing topic but how would I overclock my x10. If it is, how safe is it?
Sent from my x10 Platinum
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I know this is missing topic but how would I overclock my x10. If it is, how safe is it?
Sent from my x10 Platinum
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From what I have encountered it depends on the age of your phone, it is safe and won't blow you phone up but some models can handle far greater stress. the newer phones tend to be able to overclock higher, all that will happen if you phone cant handle the overclock is you will get the dreaded WLOD and your phone will reboot, then if you have set the speed from boot you may get stuck at boot image, but if that is the case then you use flash tool and reflash
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MIN/MAX Report
I tried to use this governor but it kept causing random reboots so gave up
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Thanks for this thread chiefy009!
I have tried all governors too (on Doom's kernel) and I have different experience to yours, so I thought I'd share.
For me, interactive/ondemand/smartass make the phone VERY choppy, especially while scrolling lists!
On the other hand, minmax gives me the smoothest and fastest results.
And I thought that jumping from Deep Sleep/MIN frequency to MAX frequency, without intermediate steps, would kill my battery but, to my amazement, battery life is very very good, I might say better than any other governor.
When I was using minmax as a module to the stock kernel, I got reboots too,
but since Doom integrated it into his kernel, it's stable as rock!
This is the info I found about this governor:
MinMax Governor (Battery Saver)
This governor will try to minimize the frequency jumps/changes which cause voltage spikes/changes and supposedly drain more battery life
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Just my 2 cents!
My_Immortal said:
Thanks for this thread chiefy009!
I have tried all governors too (on Doom's kernel) and I have different experience to yours, so I thought I'd share.
For me, interactive/ondemand/smartass make the phone VERY choppy, especially while scrolling lists!
On the other hand, minmax gives me the smoothest and fastest results.
And I thought that jumping from Deep Sleep/MIN frequency to MAX frequency, without intermediate steps, would kill my battery but, to my amazement, battery life is very very good, I might say better than any other governor.
When I was using minmax as a module to the stock kernel, I got reboots too,
but since Doom integrated it into his kernel, it's stable as rock!
This is the info I found about this governor:
Just my 2 cents!
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Thank you for getting involved, if you have time could you post all your findings on your usage of the governors ?
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Thank you for getting involved, if you have time could you post all your findings on your usage of the governors ?
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Sure thing!
I am on Doom's kernel, which I believe includes all the available governors so far.
Scary Governor
Description coming from the author:
A new governor I wrote based on conservative with some smartass features, it scales accordingly to conservatives laws. So it will start from the bottom, take a load sample, if it's above the upthreshold, ramp up only one speed at a time, and ramp down one at a time. It will automatically cap the off screen speeds to 245Mhz, and if your min freq is higher than 245mhz, it will reset the min to 120mhz while screen is off and restore it upon screen awakening, and still scale accordingly to conservatives laws. So it spends most of its time at lower frequencies. The goal of this is to get the best battery life with decent performance. It will give the same performance as conservative right now, it will get tweaked over time.
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Performance suffers, in my opinion.
It scales the CPU conservatively, so it is very annoying when playing games
or even syncing to get your Gmails.
Also, and this applies to all governors, speed is decreased when the sampling rate is high. Which means that if the CPU constantly checks for load in order to increase/decrease frequency, that will take its toll both to performance and battery life.
Smartass - Interactive - Ondemand
I am putting those 3 governors in the same category, because at least for me, they functioned very similarly.
What I noticed is that indeed the phone used almost all available frequencies before going to MAX, but the phone was laggy. Especially when scrolling in big lists, interactive and smartass gave me unacceptable performance. Ondemand was a tad better, but still, the phone seemed to "resist" scrolling for a few seconds and then go ahead and finally do it!
Battery life was pretty much the same as stock
(since ondemand is the default governor for stock kernel).
MinMax
As I stated in my previous post, minmax gave me the smoothest and fastest results.
This governor doesn't take intermittent load samples, when it first detects CPU load, aka you start using your phone, it jumps to the max frequency and stays there until you stop using it.
At this point, I want to express my opinion on the subject of "High Freq When Screen On", because many users complain about it, but I beg to differ.
In theory, CPU running at max frequency all the time, is heat generating and/thus battery consuming. Alas, be careful: in theory...
Because practically, when you use your phone, you usually do CPU demanding tasks.
When the phone is in my pocket/bag/drawer/whenever doing nothing, I want to be in Deep Sleep.
When I turn it on to look at the time of if there's any new notification, that lasts 30 secs - 1 minute. What frequency will be used then, is not that important.
When I turn it on to actually do something, I want it to be FAST.
If I can scroll a list faster, if I can open an app faster, then I will be using the phone for less time.
If the CPU is sampling and scaling up conservatively, the phone will be laggy
and I will need more time to accomplish my tasks.
All in all, I am not intimitaded by high frequencies while using the phone.
I would start worrying if I got no Deep Sleep -which isn't the case fortunately.
And my battery life is amazing, I get about 1 day and a few hours more,
with pretty heavy use.
Just my 2 cents on the matter.
Powersave
If you are ever really mad at your X10 and you want to see it struggle and suffer, then this is the governor for you! Enough said!
Performance
Pretty snappy, good for gaming and benchmarking, as it uses only MAX frequency. Not for prolonged use though, because it will ONLY use the max frequency (and Deep Sleep of course).
I'll make sure to make more tests in the future and post more thorough reviews!
Again, thanks for this thread chiefy009!!
My_Immortal said:
Sure thing!
I am on Doom's kernel, which I believe includes all the available governors so far.
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Are you playing with the voltages at all ? if so could you record your findings for everyone ?
I am currently working through the governor list and then plan on trying to level out some voltages which work well
chiefy009 said:
Are you playing with the voltages at all ? if so could you record your findings for everyone ?
I am currently working through the governor list and then plan on trying to level out some voltages which work well
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I have undervolted my phone using these values:
128000 Hz - 875 V
192000 Hz - 900 V
245760 Hz - 925 V
384000 Hz - 950 V
460800 Hz - 975 V
576000 Hz - 1000 V
652800 Hz - 1050 V
768000 Hz - 1100 V
844800 Hz - 1150 V
921600 Hz - 1200 V
998400 Hz - 1250 V
The phone runs pretty stable, didn't have a single reboot or WLOD so far (3 days).
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I will try those settings for undervolting
Smartass Update
This governor is working wonders for me at the minute, phone been online for 6hours, medium/light usage 128-1132mhz few calls, connected to bluetooth speaker in car, little web usage and twitter and the battery is still on 88%
That is impressive