Voice Dialing (S Voice) whilst Pin Lock Screen - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
I know this has been asked many times and there are a few tricks and apps you install to avoid this issue.
The problem, I'm having is that when the phone is screen locked. ie with a PIN. I cannot activate S Voice to perform a voice dial.
Is there any way around this?
I'm going to send an email to Samsung to ask them why this is the case.
This kind of defeats the purpose of S Voice, since who has their phones unlocked now days?
Thanks.
Any ideas?

beatmag said:
Hi all,
I know this has been asked many times and there are a few tricks and apps you install to avoid this issue.
The problem, I'm having is that when the phone is screen locked. ie with a PIN. I cannot activate S Voice to perform a voice dial.
Is there any way around this?
I'm going to send an email to Samsung to ask them why this is the case.
This kind of defeats the purpose of S Voice, since who has their phones unlocked now days?
Thanks.
Any ideas?
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wouldnt that allow anyone to simply use your phone for any function s voice can perform? dont see why you need a lock screen if ur ok with that. try making the lock screen kick in after a longer period of time, 30min or so should do it

I agree with fade, being able to use S Voice when the screen is locked defeats the purpose of a lock screen.

I just would like to use voice dialing. i dont need to control my phone with s voice or anything like that.
im thinking maybe i should get a voice dialing app.
Any ideas?

Me too. I want the phone locked in case I lose it but I want to have it in my pocket and use a headset paired to the phone. If i lost the phone or whatever then nobody could use s voice anyway since its activated by a button on the headset not a voice command

BelatuC said:
I agree with fade, being able to use S Voice when the screen is locked defeats the purpose of a lock screen.
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I'm still looking for an answer to this. I don't know why everyone thinks this would be a security issue if you only allowed a "paired" device to unlock the phone. An attacker would have to steal the the paired bluetooth device as well.

ramiss said:
(..) I don't know why everyone thinks this would be a security issue if you only allowed a "paired" device to unlock the phone. An attacker would have to steal the the paired bluetooth device as well.
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This is the same thing I was thinking so.. does anybody have a "fix" for this? I'm very curious about it

Any news since March?
Inviato dal mio Galaxy S4 super pompato

No info here.

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Need help with a couple of issues

Hi Guys,
I have a couple of problems with the HD2 that i cant seem to find the answer too using the thread search.
Firstly the phone lock. When i get into my car the bluetooth pairs with the phone ready for use. If i try to make a out going call using the buttons in the steering wheel the call fails because the phone is in a locked state. To make a call i have to slide the lock off and enter my pin. Surely the phone should allow the call without the need to fiddle around with the phone while driving? Anyone know a fix?
The second issue is also due to the phone lock. Some times after missing a call the lock come off and the screen is active. In this state ive made calls in my pocket and dont even know it. Again any ideas to solve the issue?
Many Thanks

Voice Talk not doing voice dial when screen is locked

Hi guys,
I have been trying to find answers for this problem ever since i bought my Galaxy S2..but no luck so far.
The problem is trying to voice dial someone while the phone is paired with a bluetooth headset and on standby/screen locked mode. In other words i want to be able to voice dial someone when my galaxy is in the pocket instead of having to unlock the screen and go for voice dial and then say command which negates the whole point of having voice dial.
So far when i press the bluetooth's button, the phone goes - "what would you like to do" and then i try saying ''call (person)" but the phone seems to be doing nothing after that..but when the screen is unlocked and i do the same thing, it actually does dial(no point because if i am able to take the phone out and unlock it, i might as well dial it instead of voice). What really hits me is that the bluetooth actually does trigger the voice talk application and the phone requests me to say what i want to do but after that nothing happens.
Can you guys tell me whats going on? This problem is really making me hate this phone because the phone boasts so many ads about voice dialling but it cannot do a simple voice dial which is possible on ancient phones. Cheers
I've been playing with this for the past couple of days and here's what I've learned. It's complicated because there are multiple settings that effect each other. The phone has to be on to use Voice Talk. It can be locked, but has to be on and active. In other words, Voice Talk won't wake the phone up if it was shut off with the on/off button. Also, the app has to be in the foreground for it to listen. If you go to the home screen or launch another app its no longer active and listening.
Also, similar to the OP, my headset reacts strangely when I use its command button. When I push the button and say "phone command," it says "activating your phones inbuilt calling features," and then says "this feature is not supported on the connected phone." But, after that, Voice Talk is still listening but acts wonky. Instead, I set Voice Talk to Listen Over Bluetooth and I don't have to push anything - I just say Hi Galaxy. OP, I bet your headset's experiencing something similar. Try turning on Listen Over Bluetooth and Wake Up Command and then just say Hi Galaxy to start Voice Talk. I bet it works. Don't forget you can also set Motion to on and then just tap the phone twice (even if its locked) to activate Voice Talk. I'm guessing that uses less battery on both the phone and headset then leaving the Wake Up Command on.
Here's my take on each of the settings:
Listen Over Bluetooth
Has to be on for Voice Talk to work via a headset. If not, you can hear the prompts through the headset but Voice Talk is listening through the phone's built in mic.
Auto-Start Listening
I haven't figured this one out. Either off or on the phone seems to behave the same way. The best I can figure is that Voice Talk starts listening immediately the first time its opened instead of having to tap the button to make it start listening.
Wake Up Command
If Listen Over Bluetooth is active, the Wake Up Command has to be on for Voice Talk to hear Hi Galaxy.
Driving Mode
Is really mislabeled. All it does is announce new e-mail (but not read them) and read text messages.
So that's my take. I'd be interested in everyone else's experiences and if they've learned anything different or better.
BarryH_GEG said:
I've been playing with this for the past couple of days and here's what I've learned. It's complicated because there are multiple settings that effect each other. The phone has to be on to use Voice Talk. It can be locked, but has to be on and active. In other words, Voice Talk won't wake the phone up if it was shut off with the on/off button. Also, the app has to be in the foreground for it to listen. If you go to the home screen or launch another app its no longer active and listening.
Also, similar to the OP, my headset reacts strangely when I use its command button. When I push the button and say "phone command," it says "activating your phones inbuilt calling features," and then says "this feature is not supported on the connected phone." But, after that, Voice Talk is still listening but acts wonky. Instead, I set Voice Talk to Listen Over Bluetooth and I don't have to push anything - I just say Hi Galaxy. OP, I bet your headset's experiencing something similar. Try turning on Listen Over Bluetooth and Wake Up Command and then just say Hi Galaxy to start Voice Talk. I bet it works. Don't forget you can also set Motion to on and then just tap the phone twice (even if its locked) to activate Voice Talk. I'm guessing that uses less battery on both the phone and headset then leaving the Wake Up Command on.
Here's my take on each of the settings:
Listen Over Bluetooth
Has to be on for Voice Talk to work via a headset. If not, you can hear the prompts through the headset but Voice Talk is listening through the phone's built in mic.
Auto-Start Listening
I haven't figured this one out. Either off or on the phone seems to behave the same way. The best I can figure is that Voice Talk starts listening immediately the first time its opened instead of having to tap the button to make it start listening.
Wake Up Command
If Listen Over Bluetooth is active, the Wake Up Command has to be on for Voice Talk to hear Hi Galaxy.
Driving Mode
Is really mislabeled. All it does is announce new e-mail (but not read them) and read text messages.
So that's my take. I'd be interested in everyone else's experiences and if they've learned anything different or better.
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Thanks for this detailed reply. I think at some point I have tried these settings but not sure if they were in the exact matching order. I will give it another go with everything set up to the way you have mentioned and see what I get. I am sure I am very close to actually getting it to work though..fingers crossed ..and yes if anyone else have different combinations of settings or ways they got it to actually work from a locked screen, please share it here. Thanks.
BarryH, I did try those exact settings like you had mentioned but still no luck. On triggering the voice talk with bluetooth headset's button, i can hear voice talk say "what would you like to do?" and does not respond to anything i say. (while screen is off).
I am thinking of installing Vlingo and trying to get that to work this way? Not sure if it would make a difference though.
vijith555 said:
BarryH, I did try those exact settings like you had mentioned but still no luck. On triggering the voice talk with bluetooth headset's button, i can hear voice talk say "what would you like to do?" and does not respond to anything i say. (while screen is off).
I am thinking of installing Vlingo and trying to get that to work this way? Not sure if it would make a difference though.
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If you do what I suggested you don't have to push the command button. The phone will be listening for the "hi galaxy" command all the time.
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I noticed the same thing, when paired with my car, the phone does not respond to pressing the button on my parrot if the phone is locked
I disabled the factory lockscreen and now use widget locker instead, problem has gone away
connectsys said:
I noticed the same thing, when paired with my car, the phone does not respond to pressing the button on my parrot if the phone is locked
I disabled the factory lockscreen and now use widget locker instead, problem has gone away
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I was thinking of trying this next as I have run out of options..so you say it worked? Then I will get widget locker and see how I go. So let me get this straight - i get widget locker and use the lock screen that comes with that or using widget locker i disable the stock lock? Or I should disable the stock lock from settings and then use widget locker? Cheers
yea disable stock lock in settings and then use widget locker only for lockscreen
connectsys said:
yea disable stock lock in settings and then use widget locker only for lockscreen
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Tried this last night and unfortunately its still doing the same thing. On holding the bluetooth headset's button while the phone's screen is off I can hear the phone go "what would you like to do" and right after this i say commands like "call (someone)" but nothing happens. When the phone's screen is on, it actually works when i do the same thing which just surprises me to as why. Also when the screen is off and voice talk not on the front screen the wake up command doesnt work. So again a person has to leave his screen on (without letting the phone go to standby) and leave the voice talk app running for voice dial to work.
And to make things worse the double tapping with motion turned on settings doesnt bring up voice talk when the screen is off..again putting me in the same situation. The only way voice talk work on this phone is when the screen is on so far which isnt really practical in situations you would want to use voice commands..i hope samsung or google brings a better solution to this issue because this phone's got so much boasting about being able to voice command but isnt able to perform what an iphone or old nokia do
If you've got Tasker, you might be able to set something up... I noticed the same problem last night, and yeah, it's totally counter-intuitive...
I'll let y'all know how I go...
BTW - also noticed that while it may listen through my car bluetooth, it certainly doesn't play through it, and it's next to impossible to hear the mousey voice in a moving vehicle muffled in the depths of my pocket anyway...
Stupid half-baked software!
k1sr said:
If you've got Tasker, you might be able to set something up... I noticed the same problem last night, and yeah, it's totally counter-intuitive...
I'll let y'all know how I go...
BTW - also noticed that while it may listen through my car bluetooth, it certainly doesn't play through it, and it's next to impossible to hear the mousey voice in a moving vehicle muffled in the depths of my pocket anyway...
Stupid half-baked software!
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I cant agree more about it being counter-intuitive..and yes its not nice the voice prompts coming through the phone but i remember once somehow the voice prompts did come through the bluetooth headset i dont know how. Like you said something is not letting it operate properly, like blocking it. I havent used this Tasker but have used task manager like apps in the past. So you believe you could try to figure out a fix for this..i appreciate your efforts because I am just lost at the moment. Let me know how you go mate. And I will let you know if I get around this issue too. Thanks mate
k1sr said:
If you've got Tasker, you might be able to set something up... I noticed the same problem last night, and yeah, it's totally counter-intuitive...
I'll let y'all know how I go...
BTW - also noticed that while it may listen through my car bluetooth, it certainly doesn't play through it, and it's next to impossible to hear the mousey voice in a moving vehicle muffled in the depths of my pocket anyway...
Stupid half-baked software!
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Ok i found a way to get this voice dialling to work when the screen is off but not using a bluetooth headset, instead the wired headset for the time being.
So I can trigger voice dial when the phone is in the pocket and voice prompt comes to the headset, i say command and it works . I dont mind it working for the wired headset as that is good enough for the time being while driving. If you need to know how i got this done just give me a buzz. There are two pieces of software that I got to set this up. Cheers.
I just deleted built in vlingo crap and took generic Google voice dialer apk from my nexus s. Plus side you don't have to be connected to net to dial contacts and I can hear reply in headset as well.
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[Q] S Voice won't activate from headset

Until yesterday, I was able to activate S Voice using my S4 headset when the device was locked. Now for some reason it will only work if I first unlock the phone first. The music controls still work when locked, but long pressing on the headset button no longer does anything. It's really frustrating cos I don't think I've changed anything, and it's a feature I use a lot.
Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this? I'd really appreciate any help with this.

[Q] Bluetooth / Google now

Hey,
I'm running the 9505 s4 4.4.2.
For the first time since the nexus one I think I've run into an issue no android phone can get around.
I ride a motorcycle and picked up the Sena 20s Bluetooth headset.
This is my first Bluetooth headset and something I've waited over a year for.
The issue is the dedicated phone button to access your device through voice.
By default this button launches voice dialing on android instead of Google now.
With iPhone it launches siri.
I have tried to reassign the button to Google now but this only works if the device is not locked.
Is there any way around this?
Is there any device that will allow Google now to launch?
Any word if android 4.5 / 5.0 will fix this?
Perhaps a ROM that enables this?
Any advice is appreciated as I currently stand it is looking like iPhone is the only option.
Another option may be the motto x with active listening.
I've heard Google may make this available to all devices, but I was under the impression that this "always listening" is completely Dependant on hardware?
I have the same problem!
I have this exact same problem. Even when the phone is unlocked, google now is a bit spotty in loading when hitting the phone button.
Google did just release an update for Google Now that allows you to access google now from any screen, even the lock screen. That being said, the phone button on the Sena 20s STILL loads the phone dialer. The phone dialer is honestly not good and google now seems to be better to use for dialing people anyway. I wonder if we can submit a request to Sena to have this feature added. It's probably just the button calling up voice dialing instead of google now.
Try submitting a feature enhancement request, I might do the same.

Google Now Not Working

Hi everyone! Just got the Edge after switching to Verizon (damn Note not available thanks to recall) and I have a problem with Google Now not hearing any voice commands. If I have a bluetooth headset on it works fine, but using the phone's mic somehow doesn't work. I tested S Voice and that responds fine, but when I switch to Google it doesn't work at all. Already tried uninstalling updates and switching off permissions.
Thanks!
You know the screen has to be on, or the device has to be charging for Google Now voice commands to work right? Other than that, I don't know what the problem could be.
Yes, but even from inside the app, if I click on the mic, and hear the confirmation sound, the phone won't hear anything I say unless I deep throat the phone, and even then it misinterprets my commands. S Voice and the voice recorder app work fine, but just not Google Now.
alcaponed said:
Yes, but even from inside the app, if I click on the mic, and hear the confirmation sound, the phone won't hear anything I say unless I deep throat the phone, and even then it misinterprets my commands. S Voice and the voice recorder app work fine, but just not Google Now.
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Is your offline language set to the language you speak? Verify that and also try to retrain the recognition. If that doesn't work I know that the S6 had problems with Google now working when S Voice wasn't disabled.
Sorry for the delay but yes it is. I have since gotten rid of the S7 Edge in order to get the Note...lucky me...but thanks for your help!
alcaponed said:
Sorry for the delay but yes it is. I have since gotten rid of the S7 Edge in order to get the Note...lucky me...but thanks for your help!
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A little off topic, but you kept your note?
I had this issue when I had Cortana installed with Hey Cortana turned on. No chance you have that on is there?
Didn't see you had gotten rid of it....best of luck.
Outbreak444 said:
A little off topic, but you kept your note?
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I'm waiting for the damn Pixel to ship. Just annoying because so many Note users have to buy different phones so it's getting backed up.

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