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Wow too my surprise, after installing the new update, I noticed right off the colors has been calibrated correctly! No more purplish in certain shades of grays now!
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2.3.3 also fixed my overly bright screen too. I used to have my NS always set on the lowest brightness setting and I still felt that it was too bright.
Yeah it did seem to improve the brightness as well. I like the new settings.
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You guys don't think its too yellowish now??
I do a bit of photography and have a colour corrected wide gamut monitor I use for retouching.
To my eyes, when looking at the same photography on both devices, the new colour temperature is much closer to 'correct' than the old one was. Not perfect but much more preferable to me.
so maybe all the complaining people have been doing is just their eyes not used to what the screen "should" look like
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so maybe all the complaining people have been doing is just their eyes not used to what the screen "should" look like
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That is 100% correct. My girlfriend is a professional photographer and she even commented on how much better it looks.
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I know that when I first bought my Datacolor Spyder colorimeter to calibrate my monitor it took a while to get used to the results. Much less "in your face" than before, but much closer to natural.
I exchanged my first Nexus S because the screen was too blue/purple. The second one was slightly less purple. But the new color profile got rid of all the purpleness
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so maybe all the complaining people have been doing is just their eyes not used to what the screen "should" look like
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agree.... i think this might improve the battery life too.
google fixed ns's color too much...
though grey does not display as purple any more,white displays as a bit yellow now,what takes ns's sharp display away.
iv been using "voodoo" kernel w/ext4-voodoo sound & color :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949292
on modaco r11 "2.3.2" and the colors are awesome , i had the purple tint on dark gray areas but its all gone now .
can someone compare this with the colors on 2.3.3 ?
I like the new colors it looks now great!!!
I noticed the colour difference immediately as well. It actually felt weird to me, I was really used to the purplish colour in the UI. Feels very grey. Not complaining though if this is how it should have been, but feels weird.
I for one do not like the new colors. They look too washed out and gray.
The Crispness is gone. Whites are now yellowish. I am not a fan. I did a comparison with a friends NS side by side his with 2.3.2 and mine with 2.3.3. and there is a difference and 2.3.2. looked better. This could be "the correct color" as has been stated but that does not mean it looks better. I have never noticed a purplish tint before and even looking at my friends NS with 2.3.2. I still do not see it.
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I for one do not like the new colors. They look too washed out and gray.
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Same here. Looking at it again (2 Nexus S side by side) the one with 2.3.3 really seems washed out.
I did notice an occasional purplish tint on 2.3.2, but mostly from different viewing angles, less so when looking straight on at the screen. It never bothered me. The overall color scheme was also a bit cool, with more blues coming through. I've read that because blue LEDs in AMOLED screens wear out quicker, often they are overemphasized at first and will fade over time. I thought this might have been the explanation.
I definitely noticed a color change after updating to 2.3.3. At first it was very bothersome. The colors do seem to be washed out and the whites seem just a tad yellow. But I can see how this may be more accurate as the previous color scheme was overly cool. Maybe we tend to prefer a cooler color temperature. The new one will take some getting used to. Blue is a "comfort color" after all.
Blue appears brighter to the human eye despite the actual lumen output being similar. It's like those custom bulbs that some people like to put on their honda civics or whatever, the blue/purple looking ones. Yea they "look" bright but they actually output less light than the standard yellowish bulbs.
Anyway, being an avid photographer and spending hours tweaking my plasma TV's colors, warmer colors are more natural to the human eye and most people jack up the blues to make things look more contrasty or sharp, which in my opinion is too harsh and fake. Even the iPhone 4 screen is tinted blue to make whites appear brighter. Then again, some HTC screens are so red tinted it's ridiculous, so in the end, download the color calibration app and tweak it according to your liking.
quattro_rs said:
iv been using "voodoo" kernel w/ext4-voodoo sound & color :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949292
on modaco r11 "2.3.2" and the colors are awesome , i had the purple tint on dark gray areas but its all gone now .
can someone compare this with the colors on 2.3.3 ?
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i would say the voodoo fix isnt as "extreme" as 2.3.3
Hey There..
just got my s3 a few days ago, pebble blue vietnam june batch..
Ok now there has been a lot of discussion regarding screen issues like:
1. Tints
2. Ink spots/blothces
3. Black Crush
4. Black/other color Clipping
5. Depth of Black level
I dont have problem 1... Just 2-3 tiny ink spots, so even problem 2 is negligble....i dont have problem 3 and its can be tweaked with software even if one has it..problem 4 i dont care about much...
So, my area of concern is the 5th problem, i.e when compared to an sgs2 or sgs1 , i find that the black levels are not as deep and super black as the former two phones !
Its not really noticable in normal lighting..please check the following in a very dark room or completely dark room...
Using a pure black wallpaper (attached below or use ur own true black wallpaper) , just open it in gallery, it seems extremely dark grey (almost black) and u can tell where the display meets the bezel...
well, even on sgs2 n sgs1 on pure black background, u could see a little backlight, so not perfect black, which is understandable....so here is where the main problem comes...read below..
on a sgs2 or sgs1, When there is text or icons or other stuff over a pure black backgorund, this time the blacks appear black (obviously its due to contrast difference producing the illusion of super black) and one cannot tell where the screen border ends n the bezel starts, it just blends due to the super blacks! This is what i love and want !!
However, this is not the case with my sgs3, the damned blacks still are not perfect black & i can see where the screen borders end and distinguish the bezel & the screen , they dont blend beautifully!
to experience this, in a dark room, on any brightness level, preferably test at 30% screen brightness cause thats what we normally tend to use indoors, atleast i do...
please use this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJO88Qhxwv4
(Thanks Tinderbox UK for the link)
or
play and high quality Dexter(Serial) video and see the part right before the intro theme where it says “SHOWTIME presents” (in white text) over a black blackground...
or
In youtube app when any video loads n the black screen comes with loading circle
or
use the pure black wallpaper with few icons on ur homescreen...
in the above cases, u should see pure black and u should not be able to tell where the screen n bezel borders meet..which is what u get on sgs1 n sgs2 screens..and i dont get this result on my sgs3 :-(
On sgs3, its almost black, but u can notice its very slightly gray ! so this is annoying to me since im so used to it appearing deeep black on the sgs1 n sgs2 !
--- So now what i need u guys to tell me is whether most sgs3 panels have this issue or is it just me ???
--- Will software tweaks like Supercurios upcoming “Display Expert” solve it by adding some black color depth adjustment ??
--- Should i take this to the Service Center? but prob is how will i show them the problem in a bright environment ?? and what if they tell me that the super amoled HD variant for the sgs3 is a new tech n differnt from the sgs1 n sgs2 screens and hence not as deep blacks ??
I WANT BLACK man !! i LOVED SuperAmoled cause if JET BLACK !! Help please!
this has been already experienced by many and so far none of the display experts has answered it or havent found the answer yet. in pitch dark environment the screen will look greyish black rather than pure black. i had the same on my s2 too but with a lesser margin.
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this has been already experienced by many and so far none of the display experts has answered it or havent found the answer yet. in pitch dark environment the screen will look greyish black rather than pure black. i had the same on my s2 too but with a lesser margin.
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hey Bala thnx fr replying, but wht im saying is tht, in ur gs3, dont u think its more grayish ?? iv listed the different conditions ...can u check n see?? im not talking about a plain pure black bckground which i agree is a lil grayish n is normal, but im talking bout black with other content on the screen....due to contrast differences n other colors from the non-black content, the black appears actual black as i had in sgs1 n sgs2, but in sgs3, it still does not Appear deep black
i dont thinks so mate, apart from the overall greyishness in full black conditions, i feel the blacks are good enough in images,video etc.
One more thing ,the feel of greyish black in pitch dark conditions may also be due to the fact that the screen border is dead black which makes us feel that the screen is not black enough. sgs2 didnt had this screen border afaik.
Are you looking at your phone the right way. You should be looking it at like this:
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i dont thinks so mate, apart from the overall greyishness in full black conditions, i feel the blacks are good enough in images,video etc.
One more thing ,the feel of greyish black in pitch dark conditions may also be due to the fact that the screen border is dead black which makes us feel that the screen is not black enough. sgs2 didnt had this screen border afaik.
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Yes it is good enuf, but after seeing it much more black on sgs1 n 2, i just cant seem to ignore this trivial issue....hmmm, maybe u have a point there about tht black border, its present all the time right ?
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Are you looking at your phone the right way. You should be looking it at like this:
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Man, i tried this Leo Style already, didnt work :silly:...now tell me about ur phone...is it perfect in giving true blacks ?
zyryn said:
Yes it is good enuf, but after seeing it much more black on sgs1 n 2, i just cant seem to ignore this trivial issue....hmmm, maybe u have a point there about tht black border, its present all the time right ?
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the black border is there always, you can see it from the home screen itself
I am having the exact same issue (or experiencing the exact same ''feature'') What i mean by this is that my SGS2 was pretty much pitch black, this one, not so much, I don't believe it's a ''problem'' though... probably made this way, although I REALLY liked the JET BLACK of the previous Super Amoleds...
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I am having the exact same issue (or experiencing the exact same ''feature'') What i mean by this is that my SGS2 was pretty much pitch black, this one, not so much, I don't believe it's a ''problem'' though... probably made this way, although I REALLY liked the JET BLACK of the previous Super Amoleds...
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yes i really wish the previous experience was there....but some ppl are saying they have real blacks with their sgs3 panels also...so i was wondering if its only for a certain batch of phones...
I want some big name devs to comment on this..if its software related n can be improved...then i wont fret about it so much...
some users in gnex forums said that maybe the voltage levels to the the 720p HD screens are lil higher and hence maybe the blacks are not completely dim, n emitting a lil light..
dam, i want some expert analysis on this !!
Depend on your way using smartphone . With me, almost time not using in dark inviroment, so I please with S3 screen .
Of course, display poor black in dark inviroment will be like dark/black gray . S1 seem better
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Depend on your way using smartphone . With me, almost time not using in dark inviroment, so I please with S3 screen .
Of course, display poor black in dark inviroment will be like dark/black gray . S1 seem better
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Yeah it's no problem in normal lighting....
...dam so even you feel the difference in the dark...cool
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The fact that Samsung still have this issue on the S3 indicate that it's a bigger problem that we(the Gnote Owners) anticipated,I was thinking that this problem was only localized to N7000.it's the same sh*t with Gnote but yours is just a bit less noticeable or Samsung tried working on it but failed
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The fact that Samsung still have this issue on the S3 indicate that it's a bigger problem that we(the Gnote Owners) anticipated,I was thinking that this problem was only localized to N7000.it's the same sh*t with Gnote but yours is just a bit less noticeable or Samsung tried working on it but failed
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Damn ...so it seems llike most of Samsung's amoled HD displays have this issue...but still the poll on first page is 50-50...means some phones are perfct ...that's the annoying part...if all were with this issue I wouldn't be complaining that much...
This is true, so do you have an idea how we can tackle this problem, cos we need solution asap
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I loved my SGS2 pure black screen...the next SGS4 will have black worse than HTC One XX of the year 2013 LOL did anybody contact author of display expert??? Maybe its possible to somehow lower the voltage of turned off pixels (black color) to do not emit to much light...
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This is true, so do you have an idea how we can tackle this problem, cos we need solution asap
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kultus said:
I loved my SGS2 pure black screen...the next SGS4 will have black worse than HTC One XX of the year 2013 LOL did anybody contact author of display expert??? Maybe its possible to somehow lower the voltage of turned off pixels (black color) to do not emit to much light...
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yes a solution needed man...i havent contacted supercurio, u know to which mode of communication he will respond? i mean so many ppl will be spamming him with issues, how do we get this to his notice??
which other devs can we contact? any idea?
Supercurio started working on the issue since last 6 month but he abruptly stoped.but we have been laying complains to samsung everyday but as you know, they are lou*y when it comes to customer care.nothing yet.
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Supercurio started working on the issue since last 6 month but he abruptly stoped.but we have been laying complains to samsung everyday but as you know, they are lou*y when it comes to customer care.nothing yet.
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Oh good to know that he working on it....are there any other display freak devs? ?
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The thread he opens about this issue is closed by him so I don't know if he is still working on it.
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The thread he opens about this issue is closed by him so I don't know if he is still working on it.
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Where is that thread?
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I think I have a problem with my phone, but not too sure if it's normal. I got my phone last Friday. Whenever the screen's on a grey or white background I get discoloured faint thick lines going down it. It is like a hologram.
Just wondering if anyone has the same and how are your display's like
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your screen is defective, or your gray page isn't actually solid gray. go into a drawing app and make a solid black or white or gray page and confirm it's actually the screen and not the apps you're using.
there's no burn in on amoled. only defective screens
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shinzomask said:
Whenever the screen's on a grey or white background I get discoloured faint thick lines going down it. It is like a hologram.
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You can also test your display dialing the code *#0*# and checking the 3 solid color screens (red, green, blue).
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your screen is defective, or your gray page isn't actually solid gray. go into a drawing app and make a solid black or white or gray page and confirm it's actually the screen and not the apps you're using.
there's no burn in on amoled. only defective screens
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As far as i know Amoled suffers in burn in. My friend's S1 and my S2 has it. Noticeable especially in low brightness. When backgrounds are gradient of black to gray, the screen looks dirty on low brightness. I saw an S3 on Samsung shop had a very visible burn in of a clock widget even on max brightness.
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Due to the different aging characteristics of the individual subpixels you will get a burn-in like screen after a while, especially where content is frequently shown. Like the clock in the notification bar. After a while/few months that spot will be seen when watching a solid colored background for example. Is the case on EVERY amoled screen there is.
Thanks for the replies.
I have tested it using a lcd test app and it is noticeable on a solid grey or white background. It's patches of faded pixels.
Was wondering if anyone with a S4 has the same problem and where would I stand with getting it replaced.
I can understand that amoleds suffer from screen burnin after sometime but not when it's brand new. My old s3 is perfect and I've had that for nearly a year.
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IMHO get it replaced.
My S4 also does this. Black and white are very good, but grey isn't very good. Check te picture below. I have also added the picture I tested it with.
Should I return it?
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My S4 also does this. Black and white are very good, but grey isn't very good. Check te picture below. I have also added the picture I tested it with.
Should I return it?
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i wouldnt put up with that. I had the same thing on my first s4, had it for an hour and said im not living with that, took it back to att and got a new one. now its perfect!
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Hey guys, I am struggling to decide on which color to import. I have traditionally always had black phones, but the white body in screenshots at least looks really good.
Are there any advantages/disadvantages to going white vs. black with the Z3c?
I've always had black phones too. I bought a used white moto x a couple months back. I love it more and more every day. I definitely getting the white z3c. The black one just looks boring.
I went for the white one. Have had several black phones and wanted a change. Would have done the red / orange model but the black bezel looks tacky to me.
I did white too. Should shoe fewer fingerprints than black.
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I went for Black - looks more professional. I like keeping my phones in cases anyway though
I went for black, never had a white phone, although I do have a niggling feeling perhaps I should have tried white, it does look good.
I ordered the white one. I changed it to the red one awhile later. I saw a video of the black one and it looks really classy to me so I changed my order to black :laugh:
I originally wanted the mandarin red, then saw some videos of the mint green and thought that would be really cool, but unfortunately, the green won't be available unlocked for some time yet. After hearing more testimonials about the red and how brilliant it was, I'm convinced it's the right choice. Basically, I wanted anything other than black and white because as safe, classy, and sleek as those choices are, I find them to be rather bland. If I had to choose though, I'd go with white, only because most of my devices have always been black and I wanted something different.
I had a Z1c in black for quite sometimes and bought my brother the Z1c in white and gotta say the white does looks really good. But currently can not really say much about the z3c as it is not available yet in Australia. The best way would have to go and look for yourself which one would suit your taste better. But i would say the white looks good on picture. The only that might be a concern that is the seal around the screen is white as well, just do not know would it be stain over time
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Hey guys, I am struggling to decide on which color to import. I have traditionally always had black phones, but the white body in screenshots at least looks really good.
Are there any advantages/disadvantages to going white vs. black with the Z3c?
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TBH I don't get your question at all, since it's purely opinion based.
If there would be a technical difference based on the color, most people would get the color that had the technical upper hand.
You don't ask your friends either if you should have a blonde/brunette girlfriend/boyfriend, since it's all just based on taste.:angel:
You are absolutely right but you have to understand that we are all really excited about this phone and we just discuss all kinds of bul**** about it until the delivery agent rings the doorbell and leaves the white box in our hands...
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confused i am using the hox white, and looks really cool. Perhaps i might try the black this time, It will also match with my sony xb90ex earphones
I prefer black because I don't like how the sensor cutout, speaker, and camera lens standout on white.
If I could get black front and white back like my Dev moto x, that would be awesome. I guess I can still do that with a white skin for the back.
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TBH I don't get your question at all, since it's purely opinion based.
If there would be a technical difference based on the color, most people would get the color that had the technical upper hand.
You don't ask your friends either if you should have a blonde/brunette girlfriend/boyfriend, since it's all just based on taste.:angel:
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Not necessarily. White will show less fingerprints, but might discolor over time. There are a few objective traits each color exhibit, and since I feel torn between the two aesthetically, I wanted to discuss some objective reasons one color might benefit over the other.
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Not necessarily. White will show less fingerprints, but might discolor over time. There are a few objective traits each color exhibit, and since I feel torn between the two aesthetically, I wanted to discuss some objective reasons one color might benefit over the other.
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The white is covered in glass on both sides so why would it discolor?
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The white is covered in glass on both sides so why would it discolor?
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I think the plastic edges might discolor.
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I think the plastic edges might discolor.
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it won`t.
At least it didn`t on my white Z.
I think another disadvantage of a white one would be the white front panel making the display appear darker, I think in sunny weather the white could actually "blind" you a little, making the screen a tad more difficult to read.
I've occasionally had overheating problems with sunlight coming in through a car window. White might be helpful.
Take green
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http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_nexus_6-review-1158.php
Page 2 shows lots of new pictures including the Midnight Blue. The trim is indeed a darker blue which I was not anticipating. Might be going with the White now.
Got that purp.....
Of all the color they can have for a background, it has to be red. It kinda skews the color for me.
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Got that purp.....
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They definitely have some funky lighting in there. Even the silver band from the white phone appears purple.
I think it's the lighting in there.