Whats The Difference Between CWM, TWRP, and 4EXT - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello. I have searched the threads for this. All I found out is that 4EXT is made from CWM source. But which one is better in your opinion. I want to flash this mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975379&nocache=1&z=2611511510331183
But they said we need CWM 6.0+ , so what recovery should I chose? I don't mind buying 4EXT, but only if its some use to me
If theres a very obvious answer, I'm sorry because I'm pretty new lol

It's all down to preference.
CWM is very simple and straight forward.
TWRP is prettier, has theming capability and extra features and uses it's own format and folders.
4EXT uses the same format and folders as CWM, but has a lot more features, theming, a "wipe all" feature and is much more pleasing to the eyes. I bought it. Never looked back.

Thanks I'm using the free version right now, so what time about entropy mod? Will it work?
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Entropy mod is kinda meh. I didn't really notice any difference.

estallings15 said:
Entropy mod is kinda meh. I didn't really notice any difference.
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You tried the Nitro Mod? Did it actually install though 4EXT?

N_otori0us_ said:
You tried the Nitro Mod? Did it actually install though 4EXT?
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No. I'm just speaking of entropy mods in general.
If it will install in CWM, it will install in 4ext.

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Is there anything better than..

The ROM manager to flash ROMS?
Please don't make useless threads.
AraqirG said:
Please don't make useless threads.
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Especially ones with an enticing title.
jxr94 said:
Especially ones with an enticing title.
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and here i was thinking that this was going to be about beer and women.
PhlaEVOr said:
The ROM manager to flash ROMS?
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It's the only thing to flash roms. You can do what most do and flash manually through recovery.
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Grow a pair and flash in Amon_Ra recovery?
MikeC84 said:
It's the only thing to flash roms. You can do what most do and flash manually through recovery.
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I can second that. Its always better and safer to flash through recovery. Not to take anything away from rom manager, it's reliable also.
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I totally thought a sweet new tiger striped case was hitting the market.
rstuckmaier said:
Grow a pair and flash in Amon_Ra recovery?
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What is "thongs and mini skirts"?
... wait flashing ROMs? Ohhh and I wagered all but $1 too ....
Fa sho good lookin out.. Peeps... Beer n women ... +1
My band wagon is full, u can run behind it.
Justin.G11 said:
What is "thongs and mini skirts"?
... wait flashing ROMs? Ohhh and I wagered all but $1 too ....
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***Correction*** I think you mean "crotchless panties" and mini skirts.
To be serious though, it depends on what you mean by "better". ROM Manager seems to be popular because it's easy and doesn't require you to flash a zip from recovery mode. I personally like to just boot into recovery and flash because it's simple and flexible. A lot of ROMs I use come with ROM manager but it always says it will not work until I install Clockwork Recovery. Since I prefer to keep Amon Ra I just don't use ROM Manager anymore. Those are the only two ways I've personally done it but there are variations.
If you need ROM Manager to flash your ROMs, you should not have rooted your phone in the first place. End of story.
rstuckmaier said:
Grow a pair and flash in Amon_Ra recovery?
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drmacinyasha said:
If you need ROM Manager to flash your ROMs, you should not have rooted your phone in the first place. End of story.
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I can also build my own house from foundation to shingles ... doesn't mean I want to.
There seems to be an obsession at times that automation is somehow bad. Yeah I know how to reboot into recovery and flash. It's not that hard at all. But really unless you also wrote and compiled that ZIP yourself are you really doing much more worth making some silly elite notoriety out of?
Just saying after awhile it's really nice to simply select "download ROM", pick a flavor, check the boxes of bundled options and let it do the rest. Sure I didn't manually find them in a browser, download them, reboot into recovery, wipe, and flash individually while renaming each file (wouldn't want to cheat and use CWM or RA)... but so what?
Anyway, I know you bolded "need" ... so I may have picked out the wrong post, but sometimes i think a lot of the RA Recovery fans are needlessly proud and critical of other methods to a silly extent.
Justin.G11 said:
I can also build my own house from foundation to shingles ... doesn't mean I want to.
There seems to be an obsession at times that automation is somehow bad. Yeah I know how to reboot into recovery and flash. It's not that hard at all. But really unless you also wrote and compiled that ZIP yourself are you really doing much more worth making some silly elite notoriety out of?
Just saying after awhile it's really nice to simply select "download ROM", pick a flavor, check the boxes of bundled options and let it do the rest. Sure I didn't manually find them in a browser, download them, reboot into recovery, wipe, and flash individually while renaming each file (wouldn't want to cheat and use CWM or RA)... but so what?
Anyway, I know you bolded "need" ... so I may have picked out the wrong post, but sometimes i think a lot of the RA Recovery fans are needlessly proud and critical of other methods to a silly extent.
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You took what he wrote completely out of context. I agree with some of your points though!
Justin.G11 said:
I can also build my own house from foundation to shingles ... doesn't mean I want to.
There seems to be an obsession at times that automation is somehow bad. Yeah I know how to reboot into recovery and flash. It's not that hard at all. But really unless you also wrote and compiled that ZIP yourself are you really doing much more worth making some silly elite notoriety out of?
Just saying after awhile it's really nice to simply select "download ROM", pick a flavor, check the boxes of bundled options and let it do the rest. Sure I didn't manually find them in a browser, download them, reboot into recovery, wipe, and flash individually while renaming each file (wouldn't want to cheat and use CWM or RA)... but so what?
Anyway, I know you bolded "need" ... so I may have picked out the wrong post, but sometimes i think a lot of the RA Recovery fans are needlessly proud and critical of other methods to a silly extent.
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Amon Ra fans?? There is also Clockwork Mod recovery fans too. And I agree, if you only thought that you could flash your phone through Rom Manager, then someone needs to do some more reading before they just post a thread in the wrong section and didnt even search. Then again, I wish I was the fly on the wall when they really do something they arent supposed to without reading.
Chocolate syrup and Chinese food...
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I actually started out with Rom Manager, but then I became weary if it actually wipes the device properly. I flashed to Amon and now I feel secure to be able to control what I'm wiping.

[Poll] Best Recovery - Vote now!

Which recovery do you prefer and why?
4EXTRcovery
OR
ClockworkMod Recovery
PLEASE ONLY VOTE IF YOU HAVE USED BOTH!
love the customisability of 4EXT
Ricey
Two Recovery works perfectly, but love customisability of 4EXT
I like CWM because I'm just more used to it and by nature I'm a bit skeptical of new things lol because for no apparent reason I think it might die on me at any time! So I switched back to CWM.
raze599 said:
I like CWM because I'm just more used to it and by nature I'm a bit skeptical of new things lol because for no apparent reason I think it might die on me at any time! So I switched back to CWM.
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I think the same way as you lmao, which is the reason why I've not tried out 4EXT
ricey1986 said:
love the customisability of 4EXT
Ricey
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Also, I don't understand why it is customizable (background images, and what not) because it is only used for a short while now and again, so it doesn't really need to be themed imo
Off-topic: You're in Bolton? I live like 2-4 miles away from you lol small world eh
4ext recovery is better than cwm imo because:
md5 check, possibility to format the partitions as ext3/4, rom name in the nandroid backup name, change backups from ext3 to 4 and so on.
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i likes ClockworkMod Recovery, it so easy
clockworkmod is ok, but i like 4ext i has more features. and somewhat easier to use!
FOR ME
I have used 4EXTRcovery, it's fine! and it looks nice
4EXTRcovery
I'm now using 4EXT, the main thing I love is you don't have to scroll through NO about a thousand times to choose YES lol
CuBz90 said:
Also, I don't understand why it is customizable (background images, and what not) because it is only used for a short while now and again, so it doesn't really need to be themed imo
Off-topic: You're in Bolton? I live like 2-4 miles away from you lol small world eh
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Aye that it is where abouts in manchester?
CuBz90 said:
I'm now using 4EXT, the main thing I love is you don't have to scroll through NO about a thousand times to choose YES lol
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Welcome to the revolution!!
I might just try 4EXT again then seeing as you all are so supportive of it lol
Flussen said:
4ext recovery is better than cwm imo because:
md5 check, possibility to format the partitions as ext3/4, rom name in the nandroid backup name, change backups from ext3 to 4 and so on.
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This.
CuBz90 said:
I'm now using 4EXT, the main thing I love is you don't have to scroll through NO about a thousand times to choose YES lol
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And this!!! Yes this...
I personally feel that 4ext is an excellent recovery, especially with the addition of ext3 and ext4 format/backup convert etc and the new layout which is great, very easy to use imho
.... but cm recovery is the basis of 4ext (with some hard work done by madmaxx82 obviously ) so for me the props go to both Koush and madmaxx82 for getting such a fantastic and productive recovery out to the masses
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4EXTRecovery i used,very well.
4ext is good with features bt theres something about cwm i prefer
I like CWM. No problems ans easy go use
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ClockworkMod 5

ClockworkMod 5 is available through ROM Manager.
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I suggest asking a mod to move this to general asap..
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I don't want to be "that guy" but every single device's Development forum (including this one) has a sticky thread about not posting questions in this forum. There is a sticky thread titled:
Thread DELETED/Locked??? >>>> This is DEVELOPMENT section not Q&A/General!!!! <<<<
This isnt a question, its a statement
Learn to read punctuation.
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Anywho, is it good to flash?
Evo SHIFT
Enraged21 said:
Anywho, is it good to flash?
Evo SHIFT
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I've flashed it. No issues thus far. It's blue!
HTCotta said:
I've flashed it. No issues thus far. It's blue!
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Hate blue but seems to work fine.
gigermunit said:
Hate blue but seems to work fine.
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Well once twrp is released publicly you can choose your color
Sweet thanks
crump84 said:
Well once twrp is released publicly you can choose your color
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Looking foward to it .
iatedeadpeople said:
This isnt a question, its a statement
Learn to read punctuation.
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You're right, I absent-mindedly misworded my post. However the point about posts that aren't development to be posted on other subforums still stands.
Since you seem to be getting technical on my post, I will point out that the OP didn't have any form of punctuation in the post
Anyway, here is the official changelog from Koush's Google+ page:
Major changes:
Backups now use tar over yaffs for everything except mtd partitions. Backups got way faster.
Backups now preserve the filesystem type at time of backup. Restores will restore the appropriate filesystem type at restore.
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Also post bug reports here
Flashed this on wifey's shift last night, tried to run a backup from recovery. Was going good, then failed on /system. Tried running it again and it failed on /boot. Rebooted and phone is fine, however, I didn't have time to try anything else.
Has anyone else experienced back up issues with the new recovery?
Edit in: Resolved, her SD card was full...
jefbal99 said:
Flashed this on wifey's shift last night, tried to run a backup from recovery. Was going good, then failed on /system. Tried running it again and it failed on /boot. Rebooted and phone is fine, however, I didn't have time to try anything else.
Has anyone else experienced back up issues with the new recovery?
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I back up through rom manager, not recovery. And its pretty solid.
Evo SHIFT
Enraged21 said:
I back up through rom manager, not recovery. And its pretty solid.
Evo SHIFT
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You will retract that statement after it fails... lol
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Enraged21 said:
I back up through rom manager, not recovery. And its pretty solid.
Evo SHIFT
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Rom Manager is just a front end for the recovery. When you back up thru Rom Manager, it just scripts a reboot into recovery and run the nandroid backup...
jefbal99 said:
Rom Manager is just a front end for the recovery. When you back up thru Rom Manager, it just scripts a reboot into recovery and run the nandroid backup...
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Correct so skip all the app non-sense and just boot into recovery and do your nandroid... One sure fire way to have **** go bad is taking too many unnecessary steps, i.e. using an app to start a nandroid... I have had so many issues with cwm borking nandroids that I barely trust it, if at all... and adding an app to that equation, you are setting yourself up for an epic fail... I trust my fingers and brain to hit the right buttons... Not an app...
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I use Rom Manager to do backups only when I need to name them. I've had good luck with it on my phone. But that being said. I've also had real bad experiences on other devices, really bad . Like every backup made thru RM being bad, and failing. But if I went thru recovery all was good. So it's not a failsafe method IMO.
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Yeah well that's what I meant.
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Prboy,fyi don't really need RM to name backups just ooen root explorere or any file manager go to cwm > backup > and rename
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FdxRider said:
Prboy,fyi don't really need RM to name backups just ooen root explorere or any file manager go to cwm > backup > and rename
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+ 1... I usually add an abbreviation at the end and have had no probs...
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GPL Compliant Recovery - Beta1 available

Post removed no more work planned I don't need the aggravation.
Just downloaded. Will install in a minute.
I guess I will be the noob first. What is the gpl? And what is the difference in the2? And how do I install this, do I just flash it? Or do I unroot then install?
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Kinz1980 said:
I guess I will be the noob first. What is the gpl? And what is the difference in the2? And how do I install this, do I just flash it? Or do I unroot then install?
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http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=gpl+linux+kernel&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
research.
It is flashed like a rom no special preparations should be necessary like I said this is a test release don't go bricking your device
Many thanks! Hope to see some of the features in thor's recovery ported to a GPL compliant recovery (mainly OC and ability to see internal & external
I thought I understood this stuff but maybe I don't. CWM is just recovery, and doesn't run on a kernel, no? I have CWM installed and can flash any kernel, yes?
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rbtconsultants said:
I thought I understood this stuff but maybe I don't. CWM is just recovery, and doesn't run on a kernel, no? I have CWM installed and can flash any kernel, yes?
Bob
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Every recovery has a kernel in it. It needs that to work properly. The kernel inside of it though can be different then the one you use with Android.
Seems to work perfectly. Thanks!
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Hm, this recovery looks good. I've got an Acer 501, so I'm going to test it as soon as I copy it over. Hopefully it doesn't brick!
Haha as long as you wont be using your 3g radio in recovery you'll do fine blazingwolf reports that the nandroid features are broken so be aware of that
now that's the CWM I'm used to seeing lol... flashed fine and flashed v3.7 OC kernel right after with no issues, great work man hope you can continue now with ICS
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Wow, dude, this was... really, really fast. Thank you very much for doing this for us.
Will download and install when I get home. I'm personally not fussed about overclock in recovery, etc - just barebones is all I need and it sounds like this is already there.
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just barebones is all I need and it sounds like this is already there.
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Lack of nandroid is a bit too barebones for me, but once that's working I'm in.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! Far too many individuals violate the GPL and it's awesome to see someone work with it rather than against it.
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Lack of nandroid is a bit too barebones for me, but once that's working I'm in.
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I'm with this guy, though I must say that I appreciate the effort from randomblame. Following the rules and doing things properly leads to things that WORK properly. Thor's roms and recovery have issues, however useful they may be.
Great!
I have other android devices and was turned off by some people in the a500 community not following the law (by not complying with software licenses). I thought XDA had a policy about that, but maybe it is not applied to everyone.
As a software developer my self (mainly non-android) I was shocked by the actions of those parties breaking the law.
It is great to see people stepping up to fix the problem. Thanks for your work.
EDIT: I see people are removing thor's links from forum posts. Thats good. I remember seeing several over the past 6 months, maybe I saw them before they were removed. It is good to see people taking piracy seriously.
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Lack of nandroid is a bit too barebones for me, but once that's working I'm in.
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I'm not a noob by any means, but maybe I don't understand something....what is the difference between "nandroid" and simply backing up? I backed up my a500 with this recovery. Is there something else I want to do?
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TFordham said:
I'm not a noob by any means, but maybe I don't understand something....what is the difference between "nandroid" and simply backing up? I backed up my a500 with this recovery. Is there something else I want to do?
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Lol maybe it does work then does restore work?
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Lol maybe it does work then does restore work?
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Good question. I backed it up, but had no need to restore it yet. I'll have to try.
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How hard would it be to get a port of twrp 2.0. (The best recovery ever!!!)
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Help

Im having some problems and i knew you guys would be perfect. Any help would be great! ok so my wife has a mytouch 4g and it comes preloaded with so much crap on it, she got fed up one day and asked me to "do my stuff to it." Meaning... root and rom it. so i rooted and flashed a sense 4.0 rom (cant remember the name) but found out the camera doesnt work. then decided to flash paranoidandroid rom. great rom but now her phone randomly turns off (always at inconvenient times). battery became garbage. will be full then half then dead within minutes. decided to factory reset. no change. unrooted and put it competely back to stock. still no change. shes gets pissed off and i hear about it everytime it turns off. so maybe you guys can save my life. any idea why its doing this and/or what i can do to fix this? thanks in advance!
reported.
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Im having some problems and i knew you guys would be perfect. Any help would be great! ok so my wife has a mytouch 4g and it comes preloaded with so much crap on it, she got fed up one day and asked me to "do my stuff to it." Meaning... root and rom it. so i rooted and flashed a sense 4.0 rom (cant remember the name) but found out the camera doesnt work. then decided to flash paranoidandroid rom. great rom but now her phone randomly turns off (always at inconvenient times). battery became garbage. will be full then half then dead within minutes. decided to factory reset. no change. unrooted and put it competely back to stock. still no change. shes gets pissed off and i hear about it everytime it turns off. so maybe you guys can save my life. any idea why its doing this and/or what i can do to fix this? thanks in advance!
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You were a member since 2010.. Please read the FAQs and rules. Her battery might be old, consider buying a new HTC battery for her.
Try rerooting and installing a different, stable ROM. Currently, I'm using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1629962 as a daily driver with the frosted cherry kernel. Again, please post this in Q&A, not in development. Hope everything goes well.
Here is an excellent guide to root:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Glacier:_Full_Update_Guide
I would also install the 4ext recovery found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1587844
Make sure you do a FULL wipe before flashing a ROM.
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Ah. Good thing i know what im being reported for. Thank you for that
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You were a member since 2010.. Please read the FAQs and rules. Her battery might be old, consider buying a new HTC battery for her.
Try rerooting and installing a different, stable ROM. Currently, I'm using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1629962 as a daily driver with the frosted cherry kernel. Again, please post this in Q&A, not in development. Hope everything goes well.
Here is an excellent guide to root:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Glacier:_Full_Update_Guide
I would also install the 4ext recovery found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1587844
Make sure you do a FULL wipe before flashing a ROM.
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Ah sorry about that. ill remember next time. Awesome! Youre a huge help, ill have to try that out. I bought a new battery so hopefully thatll help. Also, i read the link you posted about the 4ext recovery but didnt totally understand it. Is it just a different version of cwm recovery?
Its a recovery like cwm... but better
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Synthetic.Nightmare said:
Its a recovery like cwm... but better
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Much, much better.
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I actually prefer CWM, to each its own in the I could really care less what recovery I use so long as it works.
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so what makes ext4 better than cwm? Id prefer a touch based recovery. particularly on my phone (samsung vibrant)
What are the differences between 4ext free and paid edition?
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already found the anser. sorry
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so what makes ext4 better than cwm? Id prefer a touch based recovery. particularly on my phone (samsung vibrant)
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Both are touch screen, I just prefer the added options in 4EXT. But clockwork mod is good also. Idk if 4EXT is available for your vibrant though.
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Is the free version better than cwm? (For those who thinks 4ext better than cwm)
I want to give it a try, but I don't want to buy it once it's compatible only to a few numbers of devices.
extrem0 said:
Is the free version better than cwm? (For those who thinks 4ext better than cwm)
I want to give it a try, but I don't want to buy it once it's compatible only to a few numbers of devices.
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The free version is only the installer. The paid version of 4EXT installer has a few more features in the app, but let's you choose from the same recoveries.
1. Get one of the apps.
2. Install the latest 4EXT Recovery Touch.
3. Profit
I have a feeling after you use the recovery you won't mind buying the paid app. I didn't. It's worth it to donate for something as fantastic as 4EXT.
Thanks again, estallings15! You're always very helpful to glacier community
I installed it and thought it really nice. I think I won't use app features, but I'll buy it to contribute to the future of 4ext indeed
Another question, Is there any known incompatibility with any glacier rom?
extrem0 said:
Thanks again, estallings15! You're always very helpful to glacier community
I installed it and thought it really nice. I think I won't use app features, but I'll buy it to contribute to the future of 4ext indeed
Another question, Is there any known incompatibility with any glacier rom?
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Not in my experience. It fact, quite the contrary. Many have reported problems with ROMs flashed through CWM Recovery. Upon switching to 4EXT and flashing the same ROMs the problems cease. Seems like a pretty good deal to me.
Also, you're quite welcome.

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