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Is there anything better than..

The ROM manager to flash ROMS?

Please don't make useless threads.

AraqirG said:
Please don't make useless threads.
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Especially ones with an enticing title.

jxr94 said:
Especially ones with an enticing title.
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and here i was thinking that this was going to be about beer and women.

PhlaEVOr said:
The ROM manager to flash ROMS?
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It's the only thing to flash roms. You can do what most do and flash manually through recovery.
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Grow a pair and flash in Amon_Ra recovery?

MikeC84 said:
It's the only thing to flash roms. You can do what most do and flash manually through recovery.
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I can second that. Its always better and safer to flash through recovery. Not to take anything away from rom manager, it's reliable also.
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I totally thought a sweet new tiger striped case was hitting the market.

rstuckmaier said:
Grow a pair and flash in Amon_Ra recovery?
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What is "thongs and mini skirts"?
... wait flashing ROMs? Ohhh and I wagered all but $1 too ....

Fa sho good lookin out.. Peeps... Beer n women ... +1
My band wagon is full, u can run behind it.

Justin.G11 said:
What is "thongs and mini skirts"?
... wait flashing ROMs? Ohhh and I wagered all but $1 too ....
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***Correction*** I think you mean "crotchless panties" and mini skirts.

To be serious though, it depends on what you mean by "better". ROM Manager seems to be popular because it's easy and doesn't require you to flash a zip from recovery mode. I personally like to just boot into recovery and flash because it's simple and flexible. A lot of ROMs I use come with ROM manager but it always says it will not work until I install Clockwork Recovery. Since I prefer to keep Amon Ra I just don't use ROM Manager anymore. Those are the only two ways I've personally done it but there are variations.

If you need ROM Manager to flash your ROMs, you should not have rooted your phone in the first place. End of story.

rstuckmaier said:
Grow a pair and flash in Amon_Ra recovery?
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drmacinyasha said:
If you need ROM Manager to flash your ROMs, you should not have rooted your phone in the first place. End of story.
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I can also build my own house from foundation to shingles ... doesn't mean I want to.
There seems to be an obsession at times that automation is somehow bad. Yeah I know how to reboot into recovery and flash. It's not that hard at all. But really unless you also wrote and compiled that ZIP yourself are you really doing much more worth making some silly elite notoriety out of?
Just saying after awhile it's really nice to simply select "download ROM", pick a flavor, check the boxes of bundled options and let it do the rest. Sure I didn't manually find them in a browser, download them, reboot into recovery, wipe, and flash individually while renaming each file (wouldn't want to cheat and use CWM or RA)... but so what?
Anyway, I know you bolded "need" ... so I may have picked out the wrong post, but sometimes i think a lot of the RA Recovery fans are needlessly proud and critical of other methods to a silly extent.

Justin.G11 said:
I can also build my own house from foundation to shingles ... doesn't mean I want to.
There seems to be an obsession at times that automation is somehow bad. Yeah I know how to reboot into recovery and flash. It's not that hard at all. But really unless you also wrote and compiled that ZIP yourself are you really doing much more worth making some silly elite notoriety out of?
Just saying after awhile it's really nice to simply select "download ROM", pick a flavor, check the boxes of bundled options and let it do the rest. Sure I didn't manually find them in a browser, download them, reboot into recovery, wipe, and flash individually while renaming each file (wouldn't want to cheat and use CWM or RA)... but so what?
Anyway, I know you bolded "need" ... so I may have picked out the wrong post, but sometimes i think a lot of the RA Recovery fans are needlessly proud and critical of other methods to a silly extent.
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You took what he wrote completely out of context. I agree with some of your points though!

Justin.G11 said:
I can also build my own house from foundation to shingles ... doesn't mean I want to.
There seems to be an obsession at times that automation is somehow bad. Yeah I know how to reboot into recovery and flash. It's not that hard at all. But really unless you also wrote and compiled that ZIP yourself are you really doing much more worth making some silly elite notoriety out of?
Just saying after awhile it's really nice to simply select "download ROM", pick a flavor, check the boxes of bundled options and let it do the rest. Sure I didn't manually find them in a browser, download them, reboot into recovery, wipe, and flash individually while renaming each file (wouldn't want to cheat and use CWM or RA)... but so what?
Anyway, I know you bolded "need" ... so I may have picked out the wrong post, but sometimes i think a lot of the RA Recovery fans are needlessly proud and critical of other methods to a silly extent.
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Amon Ra fans?? There is also Clockwork Mod recovery fans too. And I agree, if you only thought that you could flash your phone through Rom Manager, then someone needs to do some more reading before they just post a thread in the wrong section and didnt even search. Then again, I wish I was the fly on the wall when they really do something they arent supposed to without reading.

Chocolate syrup and Chinese food...
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I actually started out with Rom Manager, but then I became weary if it actually wipes the device properly. I flashed to Amon and now I feel secure to be able to control what I'm wiping.

ClockworkMod 5

ClockworkMod 5 is available through ROM Manager.
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I suggest asking a mod to move this to general asap..
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I don't want to be "that guy" but every single device's Development forum (including this one) has a sticky thread about not posting questions in this forum. There is a sticky thread titled:
Thread DELETED/Locked??? >>>> This is DEVELOPMENT section not Q&A/General!!!! <<<<

This isnt a question, its a statement
Learn to read punctuation.
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Anywho, is it good to flash?
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Enraged21 said:
Anywho, is it good to flash?
Evo SHIFT
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I've flashed it. No issues thus far. It's blue!

HTCotta said:
I've flashed it. No issues thus far. It's blue!
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Hate blue but seems to work fine.

gigermunit said:
Hate blue but seems to work fine.
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Well once twrp is released publicly you can choose your color

Sweet thanks

crump84 said:
Well once twrp is released publicly you can choose your color
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Looking foward to it .

iatedeadpeople said:
This isnt a question, its a statement
Learn to read punctuation.
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You're right, I absent-mindedly misworded my post. However the point about posts that aren't development to be posted on other subforums still stands.
Since you seem to be getting technical on my post, I will point out that the OP didn't have any form of punctuation in the post
Anyway, here is the official changelog from Koush's Google+ page:
Major changes:
Backups now use tar over yaffs for everything except mtd partitions. Backups got way faster.
Backups now preserve the filesystem type at time of backup. Restores will restore the appropriate filesystem type at restore.
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Also post bug reports here

Flashed this on wifey's shift last night, tried to run a backup from recovery. Was going good, then failed on /system. Tried running it again and it failed on /boot. Rebooted and phone is fine, however, I didn't have time to try anything else.
Has anyone else experienced back up issues with the new recovery?
Edit in: Resolved, her SD card was full...

jefbal99 said:
Flashed this on wifey's shift last night, tried to run a backup from recovery. Was going good, then failed on /system. Tried running it again and it failed on /boot. Rebooted and phone is fine, however, I didn't have time to try anything else.
Has anyone else experienced back up issues with the new recovery?
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I back up through rom manager, not recovery. And its pretty solid.
Evo SHIFT

Enraged21 said:
I back up through rom manager, not recovery. And its pretty solid.
Evo SHIFT
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You will retract that statement after it fails... lol
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Enraged21 said:
I back up through rom manager, not recovery. And its pretty solid.
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Rom Manager is just a front end for the recovery. When you back up thru Rom Manager, it just scripts a reboot into recovery and run the nandroid backup...

jefbal99 said:
Rom Manager is just a front end for the recovery. When you back up thru Rom Manager, it just scripts a reboot into recovery and run the nandroid backup...
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Correct so skip all the app non-sense and just boot into recovery and do your nandroid... One sure fire way to have **** go bad is taking too many unnecessary steps, i.e. using an app to start a nandroid... I have had so many issues with cwm borking nandroids that I barely trust it, if at all... and adding an app to that equation, you are setting yourself up for an epic fail... I trust my fingers and brain to hit the right buttons... Not an app...
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I use Rom Manager to do backups only when I need to name them. I've had good luck with it on my phone. But that being said. I've also had real bad experiences on other devices, really bad . Like every backup made thru RM being bad, and failing. But if I went thru recovery all was good. So it's not a failsafe method IMO.
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Yeah well that's what I meant.
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Prboy,fyi don't really need RM to name backups just ooen root explorere or any file manager go to cwm > backup > and rename
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FdxRider said:
Prboy,fyi don't really need RM to name backups just ooen root explorere or any file manager go to cwm > backup > and rename
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+ 1... I usually add an abbreviation at the end and have had no probs...
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RA_GNM Recovery v3.03 (Amon Ra) for TB

Dont know if it been posted but Amon Ra's rcovery is now available in RM under alternate recovery. just flash or reflash the newest CWR back out and go back in and the alternate recovery tab thats usually grayed out it highlighted. flash and enjoy. i just did this myself and havent had time to check it out just thought id pass the info. Im not the first to discover this just seen it on another site and wanted to share i take NO credit what so ever!
Scotty85 has created a flashable zip to b done in hboot just rename and flash.
RA_GNM recovery 3.03 http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...m/YQFX94NGS0&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13154433242241

it is? are you shiiting me? i love that recovery!

Can someone educate me on the difference between cwm and this one please
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Its there brotha! im lookn at it right now! i know uve bn waiting for this i cn u looking for a port.

jr313 said:
Its there brotha! im lookn at it right now! i know uve bn waiting for this i cn u looking for a port.
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im going to try this right now, i assume previous backups will not work but i do not care!

I doubt they will work but im making a new back up now. and will stick with AR from now on.

Pretty stoked for this. Loved Amon Ra since my Hero days.
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fixxxer2008 said:
how do you flash it? its greyed out in rom manager?
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reflash the newest CWR after it updates back out RM and go right back in and itll be highlighted

yareally said:
just look in rom manager, you dont need a screen shot and it's not grayed out for me.
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do you have the payed version of rom manager?

I do have premium i didnt know that would make a difference, but yes.

fixxxer2008 said:
do you have the payed version of rom manager?
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Nope, I do not.

i got it now, hell yes!
who ported this?

I would guess either Kush or the man himself brought it over for us.

If you really need a screenshot...

I'm trying now.
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Hey it worked! The recovery is awesome. Just like the good 'ol days.

i had used Amon_RA since my G1 days, wow this brings back memories. Then I used his Nexus One Playstation recovery to jailbreak my PS3. goodtimes

this recovery works great and is super fast. i love whoever ported this!

Since everyone can't contain their excitement, I guess I will try it
What makes this better than CWR?

bond32 said:
Since everyone can't contain their excitement, I guess I will try it
What makes this better than CWR?
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faster, wipes properly and its amons!

bond32 said:
Since everyone can't contain their excitement, I guess I will try it
What makes this better than CWR?
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number of complaints about amon_ra not working < complaints about cwr not working

Help

Im having some problems and i knew you guys would be perfect. Any help would be great! ok so my wife has a mytouch 4g and it comes preloaded with so much crap on it, she got fed up one day and asked me to "do my stuff to it." Meaning... root and rom it. so i rooted and flashed a sense 4.0 rom (cant remember the name) but found out the camera doesnt work. then decided to flash paranoidandroid rom. great rom but now her phone randomly turns off (always at inconvenient times). battery became garbage. will be full then half then dead within minutes. decided to factory reset. no change. unrooted and put it competely back to stock. still no change. shes gets pissed off and i hear about it everytime it turns off. so maybe you guys can save my life. any idea why its doing this and/or what i can do to fix this? thanks in advance!

reported.

rdoughertyjr said:
Im having some problems and i knew you guys would be perfect. Any help would be great! ok so my wife has a mytouch 4g and it comes preloaded with so much crap on it, she got fed up one day and asked me to "do my stuff to it." Meaning... root and rom it. so i rooted and flashed a sense 4.0 rom (cant remember the name) but found out the camera doesnt work. then decided to flash paranoidandroid rom. great rom but now her phone randomly turns off (always at inconvenient times). battery became garbage. will be full then half then dead within minutes. decided to factory reset. no change. unrooted and put it competely back to stock. still no change. shes gets pissed off and i hear about it everytime it turns off. so maybe you guys can save my life. any idea why its doing this and/or what i can do to fix this? thanks in advance!
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You were a member since 2010.. Please read the FAQs and rules. Her battery might be old, consider buying a new HTC battery for her.
Try rerooting and installing a different, stable ROM. Currently, I'm using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1629962 as a daily driver with the frosted cherry kernel. Again, please post this in Q&A, not in development. Hope everything goes well.
Here is an excellent guide to root:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Glacier:_Full_Update_Guide
I would also install the 4ext recovery found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1587844
Make sure you do a FULL wipe before flashing a ROM.

saranhai said:
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Ah. Good thing i know what im being reported for. Thank you for that
TmobileDash12 said:
You were a member since 2010.. Please read the FAQs and rules. Her battery might be old, consider buying a new HTC battery for her.
Try rerooting and installing a different, stable ROM. Currently, I'm using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1629962 as a daily driver with the frosted cherry kernel. Again, please post this in Q&A, not in development. Hope everything goes well.
Here is an excellent guide to root:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Glacier:_Full_Update_Guide
I would also install the 4ext recovery found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1587844
Make sure you do a FULL wipe before flashing a ROM.
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Ah sorry about that. ill remember next time. Awesome! Youre a huge help, ill have to try that out. I bought a new battery so hopefully thatll help. Also, i read the link you posted about the 4ext recovery but didnt totally understand it. Is it just a different version of cwm recovery?

Its a recovery like cwm... but better
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Synthetic.Nightmare said:
Its a recovery like cwm... but better
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Much, much better.
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I actually prefer CWM, to each its own in the I could really care less what recovery I use so long as it works.
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so what makes ext4 better than cwm? Id prefer a touch based recovery. particularly on my phone (samsung vibrant)

What are the differences between 4ext free and paid edition?
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already found the anser. sorry

rdoughertyjr said:
so what makes ext4 better than cwm? Id prefer a touch based recovery. particularly on my phone (samsung vibrant)
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Both are touch screen, I just prefer the added options in 4EXT. But clockwork mod is good also. Idk if 4EXT is available for your vibrant though.
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Is the free version better than cwm? (For those who thinks 4ext better than cwm)
I want to give it a try, but I don't want to buy it once it's compatible only to a few numbers of devices.

extrem0 said:
Is the free version better than cwm? (For those who thinks 4ext better than cwm)
I want to give it a try, but I don't want to buy it once it's compatible only to a few numbers of devices.
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The free version is only the installer. The paid version of 4EXT installer has a few more features in the app, but let's you choose from the same recoveries.
1. Get one of the apps.
2. Install the latest 4EXT Recovery Touch.
3. Profit
I have a feeling after you use the recovery you won't mind buying the paid app. I didn't. It's worth it to donate for something as fantastic as 4EXT.

Thanks again, estallings15! You're always very helpful to glacier community
I installed it and thought it really nice. I think I won't use app features, but I'll buy it to contribute to the future of 4ext indeed
Another question, Is there any known incompatibility with any glacier rom?

extrem0 said:
Thanks again, estallings15! You're always very helpful to glacier community
I installed it and thought it really nice. I think I won't use app features, but I'll buy it to contribute to the future of 4ext indeed
Another question, Is there any known incompatibility with any glacier rom?
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Not in my experience. It fact, quite the contrary. Many have reported problems with ROMs flashed through CWM Recovery. Upon switching to 4EXT and flashing the same ROMs the problems cease. Seems like a pretty good deal to me.
Also, you're quite welcome.

Whats The Difference Between CWM, TWRP, and 4EXT

Hello. I have searched the threads for this. All I found out is that 4EXT is made from CWM source. But which one is better in your opinion. I want to flash this mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975379&nocache=1&z=2611511510331183
But they said we need CWM 6.0+ , so what recovery should I chose? I don't mind buying 4EXT, but only if its some use to me
If theres a very obvious answer, I'm sorry because I'm pretty new lol

It's all down to preference.
CWM is very simple and straight forward.
TWRP is prettier, has theming capability and extra features and uses it's own format and folders.
4EXT uses the same format and folders as CWM, but has a lot more features, theming, a "wipe all" feature and is much more pleasing to the eyes. I bought it. Never looked back.

Thanks I'm using the free version right now, so what time about entropy mod? Will it work?
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Entropy mod is kinda meh. I didn't really notice any difference.

estallings15 said:
Entropy mod is kinda meh. I didn't really notice any difference.
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You tried the Nitro Mod? Did it actually install though 4EXT?

N_otori0us_ said:
You tried the Nitro Mod? Did it actually install though 4EXT?
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No. I'm just speaking of entropy mods in general.
If it will install in CWM, it will install in 4ext.