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Google sync on HTC hero with mail app?

After the new announcement for push email on the iphone using microsoft exchange, I have become interested in attempting this on my hero.
I know I can add gmail accounts to both the gmail app and the mail app on the hero, but there is a reason I want to try the exchange method. The gmail app gets push email, but the mail app doesn't. However, I much prefer the mail app on the hero, along with the mail widget. If using this method will work, it can mean I can use the mail app, along with push gmail.
Has anyone tried to add their gmail account to their hero using this method? I've tried, but it says it is unable to add the account. The account is verified successfuly, it just cannot be added. I'm not sure whether or not this is a temporary issue.
Any input will be appreciated. Thanks.

I was unable to add an exchange account (gmail) this afternoon, but I am now able to do so. Probably too many people rush to try that earlier today.
I added my second gmail account as an exchange account, and then set sync frequency as "as items arrive" i.e. push. Emails indeed arrive very quickly.
The problem is, I cannot send email! I tried composing a new mail, or replying to a received email. After I press "Send", the mail app acted like the email was sent but the other side never it. What's more, I couldn't find the email I sent in the "Sent" or "Out" or "Draft" folders. Manually refreshing the account doesn't seem to work either. I don't know if this is the problem of the mail app, or the problem with gmail's server.
Another problem is, com.htc.provider got force closed very frequently... although it has no problem restarting itself.

Okay, now I realize the com.htc.provider problem is caused by Peep rather than Google Sync http://bit.ly/5uWoi
The problem about sending email still exist though, and some of my received emails are getting "error" as their subjects, although the bodies of the emails display fine.

tsekh501 said:
I added my second gmail account as an exchange account, and then set sync frequency as "as items arrive" i.e. push. Emails indeed arrive very quickly.
The problem is, I cannot send email! I tried composing a new mail, or replying to a received email. After I press "Send", the mail app acted like the email was sent but the other side never it. What's more, I couldn't find the email I sent in the "Sent" or "Out" or "Draft" folders. Manually refreshing the account doesn't seem to work either. I don't know if this is the problem of the mail app, or the problem with gmail's server.
... and some of my received emails are getting "error" as their subjects, although the bodies of the emails display fine.
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Its the same for me:
* sent emails never received by the other side, ... :-(
* some emails have "error" as their sender instead of the correct email adress :-(
Any ideas for solution are welcome.
Best from Germany

accuphase said:
Its the same for me:
* sent emails never received by the other side, ... :-(
* some emails have "error" as their subjects :-(
Any ideas for solution are welcome.
Best from Germany
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I have the same problem. Maybe there's something wrong with Google's IMAP service? I have restored to an old backup just in case it was a settings issue but it still doesn't work.
Hope there is a solution soon.

Tried using the HTC Mail app and IMAP for Gmail seems to be working just fine. But the Google Mail app is still not working.
Any idea how to set the IMAP setting for the Google Mail app manually?

Don't mix up IMAP with Exchange (Google Sync).
IMAP for Gmail (or Google Apps) has been working perfectly for me, but IMAP does not support push.
Exchange Server for Gmail (or Google Apps) supports push and push email works fine. But it has problem sending out emails and some emails received has "error" as their subjects.
Why is Exchange Server for Gmail useful? Well, it is useful if you have more than one Gmail/Google Apps account (my first one is my personal Gmail account, and the second one is my university's Google Apps email account) The built in Gmail app support push, but it only support one account. Before Google enabled Exchange Server for Gmail yesterday, the only way to set up the other Gmail account is to set it up as a IMAP account. Now I can set it up as an Exchange Server account to get push email, however it is having problem mentioned above... I am not sure if this is a problem with Gmail's server or a problem with the HTC mail app.
To set up IMAP for Google App, just set it up as normal Gmail (i.e. imap.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com, yes SSL), and enter the whole Google App email address as your username.
To set up Exchange for Gmail or Google App, use m.google.com as sever name and leave domain blank. Enter your Google account username and password, and if you are using Google App, enter the whole email address as username as above.

Hi tsekh501,
have you any news on this topic?
Would love to hear good / working news ... ;-)

Receiving "error" in the subject line here too. I am very interested to learn if any further progress been made..

tsekh501 said:
Don't mix up IMAP with Exchange (Google Sync).
IMAP for Gmail (or Google Apps) has been working perfectly for me, but IMAP does not support push.
Exchange Server for Gmail (or Google Apps) supports push and push email works fine. But it has problem sending out emails and some emails received has "error" as their subjects.
Why is Exchange Server for Gmail useful? Well, it is useful if you have more than one Gmail/Google Apps account (my first one is my personal Gmail account, and the second one is my university's Google Apps email account) The built in Gmail app support push, but it only support one account. Before Google enabled Exchange Server for Gmail yesterday, the only way to set up the other Gmail account is to set it up as a IMAP account. Now I can set it up as an Exchange Server account to get push email, however it is having problem mentioned above... I am not sure if this is a problem with Gmail's server or a problem with the HTC mail app.
To set up IMAP for Google App, just set it up as normal Gmail (i.e. imap.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com, yes SSL), and enter the whole Google App email address as your username.
To set up Exchange for Gmail or Google App, use m.google.com as sever name and leave domain blank. Enter your Google account username and password, and if you are using Google App, enter the whole email address as username as above.
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I love that Google added Gmail exchange support. IMAP Idle is close, but Exchange is true push which is necessary for some of us. I think IMAP Idle gives much better battery life though IMO

HTC Mail widget.

Basically, its annoying me, its like i have two seperate emails, whilst only using one.
I have the big mail widget as i like it, scrolling up and down emails without opening the app etc....
BUT
it seems to run seperate the android one, as when i get email notification, for 1 email sent to my gmail account, i get two notifications, one from htc widget one from android google mail. then when i load up htc, all the emails i have previously read, are set as not read because i read them on the android app!
anyone now a work around, ?

Unlink your gmail app from the gmail account. This is google's Gmail app that was written seperatley from the standard mail application, thus the notifications are seperate.
Use only the HTC Mail application and sign both your standard mail and gmail accounts on to them (activate POP3 or IMAP on your gmail account and set it up using the same details you would normally use in Outlook or some other program). There is a guide to setting up gmail accounts in external clients somewhere in the gmail help pages here: http://mail.google.com/support/
Once that is done, and assuming you've unlinked your gmail application completely, you should have it working the way you want.

Don't setup Gmail via IMAP or POP. Use Google's Exchange server. Instructions in the following link. They're for Windows Mobile but they work just the same.
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299

Don't sign out of gmail, that would stop the market working as well, just go to home>menu>settings>accounts and sync>google
untick mail.
personally, i go the other way and refuse to use HTC's travesty of a mail program...but that's just my personal opinion. Hope you get it working how you want it...

rhedgehog said:
Don't sign out of gmail, that would stop the market working as well, just go to home>menu>settings>accounts and sync>google
untick mail.
personally, i go the other way and refuse to use HTC's travesty of a mail program...but that's just my personal opinion. Hope you get it working how you want it...
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that worked for me

Gmail won't send email unless sync is on

My Gmail app won't send emails unless I turn on autosync, however I've found that if I go into my Gmail sent items, and tap refresh a few times, the emails will go out.
I've seen other posts about this problem, and I'm wondering if this can be / will be fixed in the next release of 2.2.
I've setup my Gmail in the regular HTC Mail app alongside my Exchange email, which always sends email either way. I have actually grown to prefer the regular Mail app vs. Gmail at this point.
My next question is - can I get away with using the HTC Mail app, and remove my Gmail settings without losing Gmail sync functionality on the phone, such as contacts, email addresses?
I haven't been able to find a way to remove my Gmail account info from the Gmail app without removing it under Accounts - I would rather use the regular Mail app, but I don't want the regular Gmail app to auto sync alongside my regular Mail app.
If this is fixed in 2.2, I have no worries....Any ideas until then?

Why don't you just turn auto-sync on?

I prefer to leave it off over the weekend to save battery life - I'm not always around a charger.

GMail V. Email App Question

So, the 'GMail' app is fast and efficient. However, I dislike the look and layout of it. Also, I cannot sync my secondary account with the default GMail app.
I like the Samsung 'Email' application, however, I find that it is too slow in pulling email from Google's servers. When I am sent an email, the default GMail app pings me before my desktop computer. Mail is instantly pushed to the phone, in a delightful way. Then, five minutes later, 'Email' notifies me of the same message.
Is there any way to make the Samsung Email application behave in this way (instant email notifications)? If so, awesome. I have the phone set to check for new emails every thirty minutes. If I lower this time, it still isn't as quick as the 'GMail' app.
If it is possible to somehow push emails to the 'EMail' app in a speedy fashion, then my second question would be: "Is there an easy way - besides deleting the GMail account from the 'GMail' app - to have only one Email program active at a time? Or, perhaps, is there a way to set priority between the two programs? :/

I don't think there is man. Google has developed a hybrid type active sync for pushing email to the Gmail app. This is one of the benefits of using a Android phone if you use Gmail. When it comes to other email apps/clients, Gmail will push using IMAP. My buddy who has a iPhone uses Google Sync and is jealous of how fast I receive my email. He actually got mad at Google for not using the same technology in Google Sync. That's just one of the benefits of using Android with the Gmail app. It gets you the fastest email outside of using Exchange or Active Sync.
Can't you just continue to use the Gmail app for your primary account and the Samsung email app for your secondary account? I have both of my Gmail accounts paired with the Gmail app and my Verizon and Work email synced with the Samsung app. I don't really need instant email on my secondary accounts. If you need yours to be instant then why don't you just forward all of your mail from your secondary account to your Gmail account.

Jon C said:
So, the 'GMail' app is fast and efficient. However, I dislike the look and layout of it. Also, I cannot sync my secondary account with the default GMail app.
I like the Samsung 'Email' application, however, I find that it is too slow in pulling email from Google's servers. When I am sent an email, the default GMail app pings me before my desktop computer. Mail is instantly pushed to the phone, in a delightful way. Then, five minutes later, 'Email' notifies me of the same message.
Is there any way to make the Samsung Email application behave in this way (instant email notifications)? If so, awesome. I have the phone set to check for new emails every thirty minutes. If I lower this time, it still isn't as quick as the 'GMail' app.
If it is possible to somehow push emails to the 'EMail' app in a speedy fashion, then my second question would be: "Is there an easy way - besides deleting the GMail account from the 'GMail' app - to have only one Email program active at a time? Or, perhaps, is there a way to set priority between the two programs? :/
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No its not possible, exchange and Gmail (through Gmail client) are Push, other are not.

Well, my secondary account technically is a GMail account. My school has edu accounts through GMail, so the address ends in 'go.schoolname.edu'. Because of this, GMail has issues syncing that account (even though it is a Google Mail account).
Lame. :/
Oh well. Thanks, guys.

Download K9-Mail from the market. I have 2 outlook work emails & gmail all in K-9.
Best of all it's free.
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You can have two accounts linked on the Gmail app. Press menu and then add accounts.
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K-9 mail was able to do "instant" push via IMAP for me, but it really slowed my phone down. Try K-9 and if you find it slows your phone down too, try out MailDroid.
MailDroid doesn't slow my phone down at all and seems to do IMAP push well, but its a but light on features and polish.

You can import up to five other email accounts into your main gmail account. That way you only have to use the gmail servers for all your mail. I have all my pop mail linked to my gmail account and I get all my mail instantly. You can then label each account with a different color and filter them.
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I've setup all my gmail accounts in my phone(3 gmail). And if you have other email accounts such as aol, hotmail etc you can add those account on one of your gmail (login to the web) and have gmail fetch all those emails that way you have push email on those account

Mail or gmail ????

People, i want to know what do u use for Gmail account emails???
Do you use "mail" or "gmail" ???
Well,in mail you can set the synchronosation and retrival timings and frequency.
While using the "gmail" , u cannot set frequency of sync of mails.
Do suggest what is best for Gmail???
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Guess it's personal taste, but I myself prefer the Gmail app, since mail notifications appear pretty much the second the mail arrives, and not on the next sync

I prefer gmail app too. There is no synch time, because gmail app have push notification.
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I peter the Gmail app as well. Main reason is push notification and send as feature.
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I had the same dilemma, HTC mail or gmail....
The gmail app has at least 2 important features missing:
1. There is no pinch to zoom (you can't zoom, this can be very frustrating at times).
2. There is no notification for incoming mail in labels (you only get notified for the main inbox).
For these reasons I finally decided to use k9 mail. It has much more features than the gmail app, supports push as fast if not faster than the gmail app including for labels, and zoom works as well as with HTC mail.

Mail can of course push gmail as well. When setting up an account don't choose googlemail (POP3/IMAP), but set it as Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync using details as described on http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
I know it shows how to set it up on Windows Mobile, but you just need to use the same domain etc.
It will then push email just as it arrives to your mailbox. On my DHD it always beeps earlier than notification addon installed on Google Chrome on my PC when email arrives.

I'm using Gmail with all my other emails imported into it, so I only have to check one inbox to read mail from my AOL, MSN, Hotmail, Roadrunner, and of course, Gmail itself. Very nice mail app.

I use Gmail.

Gmail. If only because I can't be bothered setting up anything else.

Gmail. It's painless.
Cheers from my DHD.

mail
Mail (gmail push). just because i use widgets .

mean-machine said:
Mail can of course push gmail as well. When setting up an account don't choose googlemail (POP3/IMAP), but set it as Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync using details as described on http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
I know it shows how to set it up on Windows Mobile, but you just need to use the same domain etc.
It will then push email just as it arrives to your mailbox. On my DHD it always beeps earlier than notification addon installed on Google Chrome on my PC when email arrives.
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The problem with HTC mail is the same as with the gmail app : it doesn't push the labels; so any new mail you have set to go to a label will not get notified (for instance, I get no notification for my alias email that goes to a sub folder aka gmail label).
K9 Mail has solved this problem. It's the only free mail app so complete and it just "works" where the 2 others above fail.

Tbh, I do prefer Gmail but when I got a reply from co pilot I had to reply within their email and I couldn't because it did not allow me to edit via my phone, its a shame really as I needed to send the email whilst I was on the move, but comparing the two, I do prefer the Gmail overall. The normal email has problems syncing and sometimes brings up emails from ages ago which I had forgotten about
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I use Mail to sync with my my company's exchange server, mostly for calender and contacts so I know what im meant to be doing, I wont sync my mail unless there is something specific i need.
I still use gmail app for my gmail personal account.
I have found that HTC's exchange sync app really good, other people in the company have samsung androids or stock androids and have difficulties.

I haven't found a way of getting hold of attachments in the Gmail app... You can only view attachments if it's a document type that Gmail can handle.