Is this screen lag still apparent on the N4? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

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This is the main advantage of the iPhone for me, feels like a more connected experience.
If this was solved for the N4 I'd get one straight away without waiting till May 15th..
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I don't have a lag problem .
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Just compared it to my cousins iPhone 4s . my nexus is way faster!
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It appears on web pages it is laggy.. Not super smooth.
Like if you were to flip thru a book really fast lol.
Although this could be do to the browser..
I'm fling to test a few browser's & report back lol
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Opera mini seems to be allot faster/smother!
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The aosp browser and dolphin browser are wicked smooth and responsive for me.

I don't have any noticeable lag in dolphin but I'm not filming myself at 120fps and then slowing it down to find out.

threeclaws said:
I don't have any noticeable lag in dolphin but I'm not filming myself at 120fps and then slowing it down to find out.
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The degree people goto to find a problem is pretty sad sometimes

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The degree people goto to find a problem is pretty sad sometimes
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I think it's just hard to show on video at a normal frame rate. When I drag the notifications bat down on my galaxy note there is considerable touchscreen lag compared to if I was using an iPhone, the screen is always trying to play catch up and doesn't do a great job of it.
It was filmed using an s3 which i thought would be comparable to the N4. If this is solved on the nexus then great!
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On idevices, the web page is like glued on fingers, especially when you zoom, on android, there is like a micro delay, but its not a problem at all.
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When you open and close the statut bar fastly, you can see this delay, If you enable "show touch" under developer setting, you see that the cursor isn't under you finger when you move et. But you see this delay if you move fastly and on in long surface (when opening the statut bar from the top to the bottom of the screen)
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shure2 said:
I think it's just hard to show on video at a normal frame rate. When I drag the notifications bat down on my galaxy note there is considerable touchscreen lag compared to if I was using an iPhone, the screen is always trying to play catch up and doesn't do a great job of it.
It was filmed using an s3 which i thought would be comparable to the N4. If this is solved on the nexus then great!
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Wait! An s3 films at 120fps ?
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SerkSerk said:
When you open and close the statut bar fastly, you can see this delay, If you enable "show touch" under developer setting, you see that the cursor isn't under you finger when you move et. But you see this delay if you move fastly and on in long surface (when opening the statut bar from the top to the bottom of the screen)
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This is a good example of what I'm taking about. If you swipe down the notification bar of an iPhone and then an android device then you'll see what I'm talking about.
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If that's a big deal breaker tho. Then just stick with iOS ?
Their is multiple things iOS & Android have superior to each other.
To me it's really not a big deal. Yet hardly noticeable!
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I catch the drift, but still its something I can't notice during normal operation. If its that big of an issue I would stay with iOS then. Why not just use your phone instead of trying to do every operation as fast as humanly possible?

myturbo1 said:
If that's a big deal breaker tho. Then just stick with iOS ?
Their is multiple things iOS & Android have superior to each other.
To me it's really not a big deal. Yet hardly noticeable!
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I've got a Galaxy Note and have never had an iOS device, but whenever I try one that is the one thing that I envy. The whole experience just becomes more connected. The nexus 4 might be closer in terms of the iPhones screen latency, but the Galaxy Note is a mile away.

shure2 said:
I think it's just hard to show on video at a normal frame rate. When I drag the notifications bat down on my galaxy note there is considerable touchscreen lag compared to if I was using an iPhone, the screen is always trying to play catch up and doesn't do a great job of it.
It was filmed using an s3 which i thought would be comparable to the N4. If this is solved on the nexus then great!
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I know what you are talking about, although I would put it under general responsiveness, and on every other android device I've owned it's been noticeable...it just isn't on the n4.

The N4 is a lot better than the S3 in the video you showed. It's still not as smooth as iOS but it's definitely not noticeable at all unless you're specifically looking for it. Oddly enough, pulling down the notification tray is actually a lot further behind the finger for me than the browser, but I usually just flick from the top to pull it down rather than a full swipe anyway.

The nexus 4 is Noticeable faster & smother than My friends Note 2.
But the nexus is the only android I haven't had issues with . like this process has stopped unexpectedly etc
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Pinch to zoom quick sand?

Thinking about the N4 as a secondary phone but I played with one in the T-Mobile store and noticed that pinch to zoom seemed to be pretty unresponsive and disappointing and that's putting it lightly. When pinching to zoom it felt as if I was moving my fingers through quick sand. It was as if my fingers had to literally transverse half of the entire screen before the phone started to react. Can anyone else confirm this? Like I said, this will be my secondary phone and my primary will be an iPhone 5 so I will going back and forth between the 2 phones often which will make the poor responsiveness even more noticeable and bloody annoying since the iPhone is very responsive and accurate in this department. So now I'm rethinking my purchase of this phone. Again can anyone confirm this??? Thanks
mine doesn't do this. it is very responsive.. are you talking about having to go out farther when zooming in? i think they designed the zoom in to occur after your fingers have spread over a certain distance so you don't accidentally zoom in when you don't mean to.
Its like people are just finding reason not to buy this phone cause it has real issues or they just like to complain....personal I think your all crazy . My coworker got his nexus 4 last week and its ****ing awesome the camera in HDR mode is amazing the data speeds are top notch and the screen is responsive. I don't know it everyone and there mama was playing with the display phone at T-Mobile ,but here a story I was playing with a Gs3 at T-Mobile and found pictures of a girls ***** on it .
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stormtroopercs said:
mine doesn't do this. it is very responsive.. are you talking about having to go out farther when zooming in? i think they designed the zoom in to occur after your fingers have spread over a certain distance so you don't accidentally zoom in when you don't mean to.
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There was another thread on this yesterday - this is actually Google almost certainly designing around someone else's patent on touchscreen usage. They probably figured that what was going on in older versions was too close to Apple's or someone else's precise method for interpreting multitouch input, so they designed something effective but different enough to avoid litigation. There's a reason why neither Apple nor Microsoft have sued Google directly over Android - Google designs around patents pretty well.
I wrote about this yday... Seriously. . try Firefox
Also , qickpix for gallery doesnt have the issue either
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stormtroopercs said:
mine doesn't do this. it is very responsive.. are you talking about having to go out farther when zooming in? i think they designed the zoom in to occur after your fingers have spread over a certain distance so you don't accidentally zoom in when you don't mean to.
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but why should you zoom in accidentally? you use two fingers to zoom..
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Falzar said:
I was playing with a Gs3 at T-Mobile and found pictures of a girls ***** on it .
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Epic
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italia0101 said:
I wrote about this yday... Seriously. . try Firefox
Also , qickpix for gallery doesnt have the issue either
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I hear ya, but even still it'd pretty annoying and making me think before I buy. Honestly I'm a stock app kinda guy. I like the stock apps, I actually want to use Chrome but I can't, I want to use the stock gallery since it would be more integrated but I can't without this bug/feature this will also make using Google maps bloody annoying more than anything as when using maps there is a lot of zooming in and out. I'm wondering if other ROMs have this issue with the N4 or not.... Hmmm... That would be an indicator if there was more of a real issue/hardware level issue or not. Wondering if Cyanogen, Paranoid, or AOKP would have the same issue...
this is such a moot issue based completely on software filtering/calibration of your touches. Capacitors are hyper sensitive to touches, so much so that you have to tone it down and filter out all the noise... You can easily go into the software and figure out where the pinch-zoom controls are and fix them...
I am running codefireX's build and my pinch to zoom works perfectly in gallery, chrome, maps, camera. Registers my touch input no mater what I try.
If this is a deal breaker for you, I would be more worried about thermal throttling issues tbh... Those are actually hardware related.
elliot.newnham said:
this is such a moot issue based completely on software filtering/calibration of your touches. Capacitors are hyper sensitive to touches, so much so that you have to tone it down and filter out all the noise... You can easily go into the software and figure out where the pinch-zoom controls are and fix them...
I am running codefireX's build and my pinch to zoom works perfectly in gallery, chrome, maps, camera. Registers my touch input no mater what I try.
If this is a deal breaker for you, I would be more worried about thermal throttling issues tbh... Those are actually hardware related.
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So you're saying right out of the box you can go into settings and configure pin h to zoom to react immediately rather than after transversing half the screen before it starts reacting?
Well, this is xda developers where we hack software and improve it for our own uses. Its part of the fun. You would have to get into the kernel for that
pinch zoom on my ROM setup right now begins the second I place 2 fingers on the screeb
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Well, this is xda developers where we hack software and improve it for our own uses. Its part of the fun. You would have to get into the kernel for that
pinch zoom on my ROM setup right now begins the second I place 2 fingers on the screeb
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Awesome . hopefully Google will fix it for stock users
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elliot.newnham said:
Well, this is xda developers where we hack software and improve it for our own uses. Its part of the fun. You would have to get into the kernel for that
pinch zoom on my ROM setup right now begins the second I place 2 fingers on the screeb
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Which ROM and could you perhaps record a video for us?
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Well, this is xda developers where we hack software and improve it for our own uses. Its part of the fun. You would have to get into the kernel for that
pinch zoom on my ROM setup right now begins the second I place 2 fingers on the screeb
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I'd like to know wHich ROM that is as well. I ordered my N4 but I definitely want to fix this before I do anything as.

Swipe between pages in chrome

Hi all
Apparently you can swipe between pages in chrome on nexus 7 but for the life of me I can't get this to work, anyone else have trouble doing this?
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Start from off screen and swipe in, otherwise it will think you are just trying to pan around the current page.
Yeah swipe from the very edge. Also you don't need to swipe. Just move your finger from the very edge towards the centre of the screen as fast or as slow as you like to swipe through multiple pages.
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Nah not happening for me, think it's because mine is in a case and covers the edge
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I say bin chrome and install the stock browser, go into settings>labs and switch on the quick controls. Really smart, it gives you full screen internet, and you get your controls by gently moving your finger in from outside of the screen border. It's really smart, and quick once you're used to it.
That and the fact that it loads pages noticeably a good bit faster than chrome...
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knuckles1978 said:
I say bin chrome and install the stock browser, go into settings>labs and switch on the quick controls. Really smart, it gives you full screen internet, and you get your controls by gently moving your finger in from outside of the screen border. It's really smart, and quick once you're used to it.
That and the fact that it loads pages noticeably a good bit faster than chrome...
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Im used to chrome now.....kinda like it

Just got mine!

Oh my, finally an Android tablet that doesnt feel like a downgrade from an Android mobile phone.
Nice lcd screen, nice weight balance, nice keyboard and most of all so smooth, exactly like the Note 2 I had before.
I'm not a big fan of Touchwiz but on this tablet it actually seems to make more sense than in a phone.
I've wasted a lot of money on Android tablets, hope this one lasts me for a while lol!
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congrats, I love my note 8
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Me too. Most of the Android tablets out there are junk. This one's definitely different.
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Yeah just found I have bad light bleed. I'm going to try to get it replaced. It's only annoying when watching videos though.
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Nutsonfire said:
Yeah just found I have bad light bleed. I'm going to try to get it replaced. It's only annoying when watching videos though.
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Same mind.
Nutsonfire said:
Yeah just found I have bad light bleed. I'm going to try to get it replaced. It's only annoying when watching videos though.
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The light is bleeding from where?
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congratz.. it will be a nice tablet man:cyclops:
Ceasare said:
The light is bleeding from where?
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In portrait mode top left on about 4-5cm and top right side 2-3cm. Shop wouldn't replace it... It's true that in normal use you don't see it, only with dark movies. My Tab2 was as bad or worse but on the 10.1 screen it wasn't so bothersome.
If it bothers me I will try to send it in under warranty.
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In portrait mode top left on about 4-5cm and top right side 2-3cm. Shop wouldn't replace it... It's true that in normal use you don't see it, only with dark movies. My Tab2 was as bad or worse but on the 10.1 screen it wasn't so bothersome.
If it bothers me I will try to send it in under warranty.
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Is it cover by warranty? I have very bad light bleeding issue too.
msn0005 said:
Is it cover by warranty? I have very bad light bleeding issue too.
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I dont know I'm living with it for now. Fact is that when you flex the tablet the whole screen goes black or white so probably there is something with how these tablets are built. Also if I press at the spot the light bleed disappears...
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Nutsonfire said:
Oh my, finally an Android tablet that doesnt feel like a downgrade from an Android mobile phone.
Nice lcd screen, nice weight balance, nice keyboard and most of all so smooth, exactly like the Note 2 I had before.
I'm not a big fan of Touchwiz but on this tablet it actually seems to make more sense than in a phone.
I've wasted a lot of money on Android tablets, hope this one lasts me for a while lol!
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Welcome to the club! While I was very happy with mine out of the box I'm getting a lot of pleasure out of tweeking the performance and trying out different apps to take advantage of the stylus (in between playing a shed load of games that wouldnt run on my old tablet).
There is no need to open a new thread because you bought the tablet. Imagine everyone who buys Galaxy Note 8.0 to open a new thread.
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Nexus 4 coming tomorrow.

Hey guys, I've got a nexus 4 coming tomorrow and I am really excited! However, there is one thing that kind of scares me... Do the on-screen buttons take up a lot of screen space? Also, what is the best way to deal with them.
Thanks in advance!
Daiskei said:
Hey guys, I've got a nexus 4 coming tomorrow and I am really excited! However, there is one thing that kind of scares me... Do the on-screen buttons take up a lot of screen space? Also, what is the best way to deal with them.
Thanks in advance!
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No, they don't use much space. Some people like to use the PIE instead, I personally turn on expanded desktop on CM10.1 and downloaded a gesture control app. Works pretty good, esp. because I didn't like the PIE
Haha mine is coming in tomorrow too! Along with the wireless charger and cases I bought off of Amazon!
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That makes 3 of us :good: I finally pulled the trigger. I will be receiving it tomorrow. Hope to get the case and SP tomorrow too..
Also most roms have options to change the height of the navbar
Is goo manager the best way to install twrp?
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Alaris said:
Is goo manager the best way to install twrp?
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Theres not really a "best" way.
Why not just use "fastboot flash recovery" to install it? Its probably the most efficient and direct way to go about it.
Daiskei said:
Hey guys, I've got a nexus 4 coming tomorrow and I am really excited! However, there is one thing that kind of scares me... Do the on-screen buttons take up a lot of screen space? Also, what is the best way to deal with them.
Thanks in advance!
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The size and alignment of on-screen buttons is perfect with respective to screen size. However, you can change their size also after rooting the device.
Do you mean flashing it through like twrp?
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Do you mean flashing it through like twrp?
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The navbar?
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Honestly you can adapt to both options, I used to use it normally and now I am using pie
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T-Mobile lied to me... T_T
They said it would be coming expedited next day but they sent it ground shipping... Won't be here till Monday or Tuesday! Lame.
I prefer the navigation bars over pie. If you use a custom rom with the feature then you can adjust it's size so it appears smaller on the screen.
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Flash a custom ROM and adjust the size of them. I personally think the size of the Navbar on stock is hideous, whenever I compare my phone to my friend's stock N4 I think that mine just looks so much cleaner with less black space at the bottom of the screen. 70% works perfectly for me, not too small but not intrusive either.
Just got mine today! Love it so far!
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The screen buttons are about a quarter of an inch, which imo is fine. Coming from an s3 I prefer on screen buttons over physical buttons any day and will be a deciding factor in buying any future phone.
Yeah on screen a really more responsive in my opinion. Find myself only having to hit them once unlike my s3.
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Thanks guys for all of the info, really excited for my phone to come... Coming from an HTC One S right now and I really like being able to have my recent apps key double as menu on short press and recent apps on long press... Would that be possible with the onscreen buttons?
Sorry for the double post, just wanna say that it arrived last night and I couldn't be any happier on a work day. XD
I don't find them intrusive at all even on the default size, but then again I migrated from an 800x480 phone, lol.
They also auto-hide when playing videos - tapping the screen during the video brings them back again for a few seconds.
Flashing a custom ROM is great for customizing the buttons and what they do. I find that I prefer a menu button over having to hunt for a 3-dot overflow, and I also find a search button useful for quickly bringing up the address bar in the browser so I can type a URL. So thanks to CM10.1 I was easily able to reconfigure the onscreen buttons - I now have Back, Home, Menu, and Search from left to right. The Menu button doubles as a Recent Apps Switcher when longpressed.
What is annoying though is that they are easy to accidentally hit when using apps in portrait mode. I have inadvertently exited Carmageddon many times to my extreme rage :/

How is the lag and scrolling?

How is the lag and smooth scrolling speed on the phone? Is there any lag that anyone notices? Do the menus and websites scroll really smoothly like the iPhone 5S?
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I don't don't have an iPhone but seams pretty fast with Chrome
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I have only been using s5 in ART mode and its butter smooth everywhere. But sometimes the phone doesn't come out of sleep (the screen remains dark/off) only the capacitive buttons light up and i have to toggle the power button several times for it to work (no power off required). another issue i face is that the camera takes a solid 5 seconds or more to start up from lock screen. May be i should switch back to DALVIK.
Tw launcher lag a bit. To overcome this u should enabled developer option and set each animation by 0.5x. I'm using nova launcher and it's fly
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I remember having this conversation about the GS 2 years ago. Back then it was hard to argue that the phone had lagging issues. And today coming from an s2 the only lag I'm experiencing is in my own mental processing power trying to keep up with this phone
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And I use holo launcher. Its always been good to me.
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Yes there is lag. Especially when comparing to New modern phones like the HTC One M8.
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Let's be serious once and for all.
TouchWiz will ALWAYS be slower than stock Android, so please stop asking if the S5, S6, S7 lag.
Don't expect TouchWiz to be as fast! Ever! That simple.
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Yes there is lag. Especially when comparing to New modern phones like the HTC One M8.
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How is the lag compared to the m8?
I've noticed lag on the s5 while sifting through the camera settings during the camera mode. I think the scrolling on the s5 seems to be a little smoother compared to the m8 based on my testing both phones at a store, but I could be wrong. I also think the iPhone is still somewhat smoother than both phones. I'm hoping for find an android that beats out the iPhone in terms of lag and smooth scrolling.
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I do use Nova but generally the phone feels like it's finally shaken off some of the slow S4 shackles.
My experience so far is that it is a big improvement over the S4. Bone stock so far.
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How is the lag compared to the m8?
I've noticed lag on the s5 while sifting through the camera settings during the camera mode. I think the scrolling on the s5 seems to be a little smoother compared to the m8 based on my testing both phones at a store, but I could be wrong. I also think the iPhone is still somewhat smoother than both phones. I'm hoping for find an android that beats out the iPhone in terms of lag and smooth scrolling.
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If you look on YouTube, there's a video comparison of the lag. The S5 loses every time, but it's microseconds, nothing major.
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If you look on YouTube, there's a video comparison of the lag. The S5 loses every time, but it's microseconds, nothing major.
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So it is microseconds but you still notice it? O.O

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